₦airaland Forum

Journalist from Saudi in Turkey met his untimely death while trying to get documents to marry a turkish woman.


He was last seen entering walking into the consulate, but they say there is none of him walking out. The Saudis, while insisting that he left the consulate safely, have not offered any evidence.

Mr. Khashoggi’s fiancée waited for him outside the consulate for hours.

The journalist had been a serious critic of Saudi government.

What information does he have for him to be butchered like a cow.

People say he had dealings with the crown prince

The prince has shown little tolerance for critics of the Saudi government, and many of those who have spoken out have been jailed. So it is reasonable to assume that he was not a fan
Did Saudi agents abduct or kill Mr. Khashoggi?
Image

Prince Mohammed bin Salman of Saudi Arabia in Paris in April. The crown prince, 33, has worked hard to portray himself as a reformer, but Mr. Khashoggi’s disappearance could undermine those efforts.


This is where the mystery begins. Turkish officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity, have said that their government has detailed evidence of a gory assassination, which they say the Saudi leadership ordered.

The day Mr. Khashoggi disappeared, 15 Saudi agents flew into Istanbul on two private jets chartered by a company with close ties to the crown prince and the Saudi Interior Ministry, the Turks say. The agents waited for Mr. Khashoggi inside the consulate and killed him within two hours of his arrival, the Turkish officials contend.




Among the Saudi agents was a doctor who specialized in autopsies, and the group had brought a bone saw into the consulate, which it used to dismember Mr. Khashoggi, according to the Turkish officials. But the Turks have not yet made public their findings, some of which may come from secret electronic surveillance.

President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey, a personal friend of Mr. Khashoggi’s, has repeatedly demanded an explanation from the Saudis but has not made specific accusations.

Prince Mohammed and other Saudi officials have denied any knowledge of Mr. Khashoggi’s whereabouts, insisting without evidence that he left the consulate


Experts have pointed to another, more cynical possible explanation for Turkey’s reticence about releasing evidence: It may quietly seek some kind of deal with Saudi Arabia that could prevent full disclosure.

Turkey and Saudi Arabia are regional rivals on opposite sides of an ideological feud over Brotherhood-style political Islam. But until now, the two countries have worked hard to bridge their disagreements, in the interest of working together on areas of common interest, like the Syrian civil war.

Laboring under an economic crisis brought on by excessive borrowing, Turkey can ill afford a long-running conflict with a wealthy trading partner like Saudi Arabia. It might even welcome Saudi aid or investment.

What might a deal look like?
Many analysts with experience in the region speculate that the Saudi royal court could pin Mr. Khashoggi’s disappearance or death on a “rogue element” within the Saudi security services.

Turkey could accept that explanation, both sides could move on, and the world would never learn the truth about what evidence, if any, the Turkish authorities had.

Whose side is Trump on?
Image

President Trump arriving at Joint Base Andrews in Maryland on Saturday.CreditAl Drago for The New York Times
President Trump has given mixed signals about his interest in the Khashoggi case.

On the one hand, he has pointedly noted that Mr. Khashoggi was not a United States citizen and that his disappearance occurred far from American soil. He has also repeatedly ruled out cutting off arms sales to Saudi Arabia, on the grounds that those contracts bring money and jobs to the United States.

ADVERTISEMENT


On the other hand Mr. Trump vowed over the weekend that there would be “severe punishment” if Saudi Arabia were proved to have killed Mr. Khashoggi.

That threat drew an extraordinary pushback from the Saudis. If Saudi Arabia “receives any action, it will respond with greater action,” the Foreign Ministry said in a statement, citing the oil-rich kingdom’s “influential and vital role in the global economy.”

Saudi Arabia “affirms its total rejection of any threats and attempts to undermine it, whether by threatening to impose economic sanctions, using political pressures, or repeating false accusations,” the Foreign Ministry said.

The possibility of a rift between Mr. Trump and Prince Mohammed over Mr. Khashoggi is remarkable, because the Trump administration has embraced Saudi Arabia as its premier Arab ally. Mr. Trump’s son-in-law and Middle East adviser, Jared Kushner, 37, has grown especially close to Prince Mohammed, a near-contemporary in age.

This is all the more striking because Mohammed bin Salman has made strenuous efforts to promote himself to the West as an agent of moderate liberalisation and reform. The most iconic manifestation of this was last September’s announcement that women in the kingdom would finally be allowed to drive. But what should also be remembered is that, at around the same time, the women who fought for this right were being variously imprisoned, intimidated into silence and smeared as foreign agents.

This came as part of a wider crackdown as hundreds of clerics, activists and businessmen were arrested. Scores of members of the Saudi elite were rounded up and subjected to a supposed “anti-corruption” shakedown, conducted without any recognisable due process, in the notorious Ritz-Carlton episode.

In other words, irrespective of what has happened to Khashoggi, it was already abundantly clear that bin Salman’s purported liberalisation drive was little more than an exercise in PR. Very limited social reforms have taken place, and big economic reforms have been promised (often implausibly), but in political terms the tyranny has intensified, and all changes are aimed squarely at solidifying absolute monarchical rule.

If Khashoggi has been disappeared or killed, it would be a sign of both aggressive and bad judgement on the part of the Saudi regime, but again, further proof of such a lack of judgement is unnecessary. The evidence already included the failed attempt to isolate Qatar until it gave up its independent foreign policy, the reported attempt to orchestrate an effective coup in Lebanon by kidnapping the country’s prime minister while he was visiting Riyadh and ordering him to resign (which he rescinded after returning home), and above all the disastrous intervention in Yemen’s civil war, which was supposed to last weeks or months but has instead degenerated into a three and a half year quagmire. Paranoid about the sustainability of its economic model, and about its geopolitical standing in the Middle East, Riyadh under bin Salman has thus been lashing out wildly in all directions. And one explanation for these continued, ill-judged responses to the kingdom’s underlying strategic concerns is that the 33-year-old prince has yet to face any consequences for his actions.

Jamal Khashoggi’s Disappearance: What We Know and Don’t Know
Image
Saudi officials arrive at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul on Monday for an investigation into the Oct. 2 disappearance there of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi.CreditCreditTolga Bozoglu/EPA, via Shutterstock


Did Saudi agents abduct or kill Mr. Khashoggi?
Image

Prince Mohammed bin Salman of Saudi Arabia in Paris in April. The crown prince, 33, has worked hard to portray himself as a reformer, but Mr. Khashoggi’s disappearance could undermine those efforts.CreditChristophe Ena/Associated Press
This is where the mystery begins. Turkish officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity, have said that their government has detailed evidence of a gory assassination, which they say the Saudi leadership ordered.

The day Mr. Khashoggi disappeared, 15 Saudi agents flew into Istanbul on two private jets chartered by a company with close ties to the crown prince and the Saudi Interior Ministry, the Turks say. The agents waited for Mr. Khashoggi inside the consulate and killed him within two hours of his arrival, the Turkish officials contend.

ADVERTISEMENT


Among the Saudi agents was a doctor who specialized in autopsies, and the group had brought a bone saw into the consulate, which it used to dismember Mr. Khashoggi, according to the Turkish officials. But the Turks have not yet made public their findings, some of which may come from secret electronic surveillance.

President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey, a personal friend of Mr. Khashoggi’s, has repeatedly demanded an explanation from the Saudis but has not made specific accusations.

Prince Mohammed and other Saudi officials have denied any knowledge of Mr. Khashoggi’s whereabouts, insisting without evidence that he left the consulate freely.

If Turkey has evidence, why doesn’t it show it?

eleojo23:
Buhari's ineptitude has given Atiku many points to use against him.

Kai...Buhari is the worst so far.

Too many own goals...

Buhari spent 1 full year in London out of the 4 years

Bgetto:
This is a HighWay Road that Passes in front of The PDP,s Presidential Flag Bearer,s Ancestral Home Town in Jada, Adamawa State , Who doled out Billions in Port Harcourt of recent. All We know, is, Charity Begins at Home.. He Can Only Deceive Outsiders with Restructuring.. In PMBuhari We Stand, till 2023, insha Allah.

Buhari does nothing but sleep all day. He needs to go back to his village and rest like all other 75 old.


How many of 75 yr olds mates are working?

Civil servants are retired at 60 yrs

Pdp and apc - 2 corrupt political parties continue to impose substandard ppl to run for highest office.


Their agenda is to enrich their party members only and not the nation at large.

The revolution will be if neither party is voted in.


The good honest ppl are not in pdp or apc

Some ppl
Will just die of jealousy meanwhile the future of Nigeria is about to be bleaker with the emergence of atiku and Buhari but it’s di Cuppy music that is bugging some fools.

Bad belle ppl

luvmijeje:
I love her. She is putting her money where her mouth is. But she should have started from house of reps or the senate.

Y? She is credible more than those 2.


Atiku and Buhari are Ali baba and the 40 theives.

They represent bands of criminals not ordinary citizens

slivertongue:
Voyage of futility.

aunty oby thinks twitter can help her win.

am waiting for pst bakare's declaration

she has more credibilty than Atiku or Buhari.

Nigerians wants to keep electing the same numb skulls and hope for change.

Either her or Sowore get my vote.

Atiku is a confirmed thief as customs dg

Buhari is sleeping 23hrs doing nothing with his f9 parrallel in waec.

Paulscholari:
I like the Yorubas!
They come together in unity to install a king and give him rules and precepts to follow,
if he does they keep him there,
if he doesn't they come together and kick him out,
Reno was right about them,
God does the same thing to His people in the old testament, when a king sway away from his rules and ordinances he remove him from His masterplan and even destroy them,
but if he regains his sense and come back to God, he will be forgiven but what has been taken has been taken if he had made any promise to him he gives it to his offspring that does His will.
The Yorubas are just like that,
they are the true Jews.

Not Jews but Egyptians

Osagyefo98:
All I see is a weakling.

What do u want him to do?

Unless he want gbagbo treatment.


Even thing is strategy nobe by gragra

In Yoruba one word same spelling can have different meaning such as Ogun.

Ogun- war
Ogun-medicine
Ogun- 20 etc

So also his Jebu

A baby cannot name himself/herself, the parent must give it’s name.

So also a ppl cannot name itself


Africa is the name of a Roman general....africanus

sage101:
YOU are NOT WISE

Voting was for APC members only-“

It was a primary election .

The way the system is setup the same can be done to Buhari

speedyGonzales:
No need to suger coat things, weak men are weak

If you were Ambode what would you do?.

His works speak for itself.


Jakande was a governor for 1year but his name lives

How about otedolas father- do u hear any accolades?

vickylincon:
You are not far from the truth. Some of your points may be true. I said some because most of the things we see as layman are not really so in the political realm. I am sure what ambode did for them is more than this. Believe me, if he did not offend them, they will cover up all these mess for him

This is Nigeria , u will not be wrong to assume that it’s probably all about money and contracts awarded.

Maybe he did not award contracts to his party members

Lipscomb:
Wasting of money. And what is wrong with udom using walking stick at that age?

Good stadium attract international matches. International match attract FIFA $ for hotel. Town etc

Yomzzyblog:
From; YomzzyBlog.com

Billionaire businessman, Femi Otedola was among the top dignitaries that attended FIFA 'The Best Awards' which held in London yesterday.

He shared this photo as he was pictured with FIFA president, Gianni Infantino.

Gists via: http://www.yomzzyblog.com/2018/09/billionaire-businessman-femi-otedola-pictured-fifa-president.html

Nigerians just love snapping pictures with popular people. ESP ppl on t.v

Even though u just saw the person passing for 2 secs

360metrosports:
President Buhari accompanied by his wife, Aisha departs Abuja for New York ahead of the 73rd Session of UN General Assembly on 23rd Sep 2018.

http://www.metronaija.ng/photos-buhari-leaves-abuja-for-new-york/

Hopefully he can go and not come back or heAD BACK TO HIS VILLA.

this man needs to go

johnstar:
All of una wey dey insults the boy, una be hypocrites

Stupid ppl



Like say if una see white woman wey get money and she wn marry una, una nor go say yes??

Maggots

Abi o dem no call Marcon gold digger

FarahAideed:
More like Nigerian youngman shoes off his greencard

Not everything is green card. The woman needs his virility as energy.

She needs something he wants something

Adakintroy:
Women liberation ke...We're women ever in bondage?

See the way they are troubling wizz. When problem like this come na the truth obout things DE come out.

Na Becos of money now. If d guy still Dey up and coming dem for open yansh?

Biglittlelois:
As usual no one is blaming wizkid cos he is the celebrity, smh!!

guys understand wizkid dilemma with women throwing pussy and you left right and center.
All na trapping things

He would have to be Jesus not to be tempted.
If na one random guy dem go swallow postinor fast fast

kennygee:
Even if they are married, who will take care of his kids?

Their husbands?

There's no excuse for being a deadbeat bad, it is irresponsible.

I pray those women will get their acts together. There are single mums in this world who made mistakes by lying with dogs, but they
can forget their "future", make better choices and get themselves a " Russell".

the girl wan trap wizkid, wizkid self fall maga. how many musicians r married in there 20s.

she wan dey collect 3000 dollars every month or more.

The girl self na thief

Nysc certicate come be wetin?

Certificate for mammy market and phuking secondary school gals


Misplaced priorities

bjboss:
Bro, abeg leave the chicken crew alone..

Don't mess with Povetkin, see as him beat Camerounian Takam like baby

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=povetkin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSuSgbC-kO0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReLT6KR5w-w

Bullhari007:
Mr Man Stop showing Akpuobi go and fight your mate Wilder and stop flexing Muscles for underrate Boxers ... AFONJA and fear fear

He is fighting povetkin who is 2nd ranked on wbc.

Just shows u don’t follow boxing.

Povetkin is a dangerous Russian

Babyforever:
To chop this guy money just dey hungry me since last year

Lie lie na him pipe u need

Bolowolowo:
I have never seen a country as benevolent as the Chinese. We must be careful though not to fall in debt trap, but if the benefits outweigh all negatives, I'm in.

They are not benevolent they are investing or loaning for returns.

It will include high interest rate repayment or debt for oil.

Chinese r extremely frugal people so just erase that thought from your mind.

The borrower is a slave to the lender make una open eyes.

[quote author=autojosh post=70800670][img]https:///a/img921/4472/raONP9.jpg[/img]

The Federal Government of Nigeria has signed an MOU with Europe's largest automotive manufacturer, Volkswagen, to produce a number of its vehicles in the country.

This was part of the events during the visit by the German Chancellor, Angela Merkel, to Nigeria on the 31st of August, 2018.

The Honourable Minister of Industry, Trade and Investment, Dr. Okey Okechukwu Enelamah, signed on behalf of the Federal Government of Nigeria, and Thomas Schaefer, CEO and Chairman of Volkswagen's Africa operations signed on behalf of Volkswagen.

Thomas Schaefer and Volkswagen have been working with the DG of the National Automotive Design and Development Council, Jelani Aliyu, and the agency towards the company's entry into Nigeria and the setting up of local production.

Early July this year, the National Automotive Design and Development Council and the Federal Ministry of Industry, Trade and Investment had hosted Volkswagen and other global OEMs in Abuja.

Aliyu mentioned, "This MOU with Volkswagen is a progressive development as a result of that earlier engagement, and we are particularly excited because the company is very committed to new applicable technology and the local production of modern, safe and energy efficient vehicles which would be optimized for our environment."

"With Volkswagen, we have a strong stakeholder who understands the huge potential in the Nigerian market, and we are a perfect match to the company's efforts towards innovative mobility services which would both compliment and boost our economic structure."

Volkswagen has recently started vehicle production in the East African country of Rwanda this year.

Nigeria provides an even larger market, both within the country and as a gateway to the West African region.

https://autojosh.com/nigeria-signs

Caseless:
that story was used to seek asylum and it has been debunked on many fora including Nairaland.

We've tried to see the house he lived in at hayin banki in Kaduna before it was burnt, no house has been shown.

Brother, how your night? Good morning.

My guy shut up !

Do you know how many people were killed by those islamists. My cousins were also made orphans by that time in KD when they were killing Christians. They had to move down to Lagos.

They didn’t burn house , they just broke into
House and slit throats with knife

Football playing is a talent if you sabi play ball them go Dey beg u with visa even if na Ajegunle you live.

And then pay u millions of pounds.

Majority of footballers are from ghetto and they get visa because of their value.

It’s change of system . Sari changed from 3-5-2 to 4-3-3.

David Luiz was benched for a whole season, it’s not easy making 1st eleven in a top European team.

Nigeria needs world class game reserve like sa and Kenya.

If calamari can develop that it will turn cr to dubai

That’s what tourists with dollars want

SEONaijaExpert:
Welcome madam President

Nigeria is ready to receive you.

On behalf of our effective President Buhari and active Vice-President Prof Osinbajo and well meaning Nigerians (not new country fighters) we welcome you.

Buhari - is the laziest president in history.

HE is collecting free money and just occupying that chair