₦airaland Forum

candidtalk:
Guy, quit this angle you're pushing. I am sure many respect you here as a Northerner passionate about his region yet fair-minded and always favorably disposed to what is in the best interest of Nigeria.

Tinubu never disrespected Arewa or the North as you claim. At worst you can claim he disrespected Buhari but who, even you if your being fair, will not understand that developemtn given the many, many actions of open disrespect and lack of goodwill , towards Tinubu, from PMB?

You are acting totally out of character over this issue and I personally think your overreaction stems from the peculiarity of the North whereby leaders can never be criticised, even when blatantly in the wrong, as if they are gods.

You must remember that is not the case with the South and that what obtains in your region is not binding on all Nigerians. At worst, this is a spat between Tinubu and Buhari that fair and objective neutral observers can certainly understand from Tinubu's perspective.

Even when Buhari sidelined Tinubu after his 2015 win, PMB went back to demand Tinubu head his 2019 election campaign. Tinubu acceded graciously and worked for the win of Buhari and APC.

I am now surprised you have gone so far as to be using words such as "disrespectful" against Tinubu. Has Tinubu been 'respected by those you claim he is disrespectful to or is the reality that they have constantly humiliated and dragged him in ways not fitting of his status and contribution to APC?

Why also invoke Arewa and your region into what is essentially a dispute between two individuals we all know the root cause of to understand where Tinubu is coming from?

Ultimately my friend, on this ocassion you are wrong. You have done what most Nigerians do when push comes to shove. I.e side with their kinsmen because ethnic loyalty has blurred vision to obscure what is very obvious.

I am not a liar and won't get into the issue of whether Tinubu disrespected Buhari or not. To me that is to be looked at from the perspective of Buhari's prior actions towards Tinubu and the mindset of the average Nigeria vis a vis a tendency, or lack thereof, to see leaders as infallible gods beyond reproach or reprimand.

What I know though is that Tinubu did not disrespect the North or Arewa. Anyone insisting that is just among those wishing to give a dog they hate a bad name to hang it.

Throwback:
Arewa support and Buhari support are 2 different things.

Tinubu need Buhari's support or neutrality to become APC presidential candidate, while he needs Arewa support to become Nigerian President.

Truly, the Buhari presidency had long shown their hand early enough for Tinubu to see the card he would be dealt - a card of betrayal.

Hence his focus to continue building his support base across the country and especially in the North. Tinubu was also careful not to hurt the image or threaten the legacy of Buhari and ensured he comported himself quietly even when it was best to speak out.

Tinubu has lost significant political capital by choosing to remain quiet over the failings of the Buhari regime, in addition to the capital he already staked to ensure that Buhari won the APC primary against the hawks of the NPDP. Atiku and Saraki, who would have easily defeated Buhari if Tinubu had chosen to betray Buhari at that point after the merger that resulted into APC.

What about his Chicago connections that ensured that the Buhari campaign got the tacit support of the Obama led USA government, and the services of the same team that managed the Obama presidential campaign? Remember that Obama was a Chicago resident before his entrance into politics and was Senator representing the Chicago area of illinois state before becoming USA President.

Buhari benefited all of these from the magnanimity and loyalty of Tinubu, which was also inspired by the belief that only Buhari could get the needed votes from the North to defeat Jonathan.

Buhari should not be an ingrate, and should remain steadfast in keeping the cordial relationship with Tinubu that many had long wished was broken so that they can easily target Buhari.

Tinubu has taken too many blows for Buhari and the Buhari regime. He has also taken blows from the Buhari presidency that for reasons best known, became uncomfortable with Tinubu's political prowess once he had secured the presidency for Buhari, only to remember that polical prowess and seek out for it for the benefit of re-election.

You cannot deny the fact that no current APC aspirant can defeat Tinubu, so if Buhari would not support Tinubu, let him remain neutral so all candidates can respond the rewards of their input into the party.

All the shenanigans by the presidency and party leadership is quite irritating. And Buhari has never provided focused leadership for the APC, such that even the likes of El Rufai equally get irritated by how the President is easily cajoled to support a cause that would be of injury to the party.

APC is really making a mockery of the presidential primary, just so as to stop Tinubu that was of help to those in power now.

Tinubu has every reason to soro soke and point fingers at those he has served for 15years, growing their different political careers.

Do Atiku or Saraki have that type of patience and selflessnes?

Freedom34:
Lolz....."disloyal"? Did I hear u right?
Bcus of a single speech?

Mention 10 ppl in Nigeria (north or south) who has been more loyal to d APC cause/course?
'Disloyal' in a party he helped birthed and sustained for over 7 years with his time, resources and blood? His input in helping to form a winning team with pmb has bn d no 1 reason he's bn consistently hated by d s/e till date, and its d same man u accuse of 'disloyalty'? Perhaps 'loyalty' get anoda meaning!

Granted he may have gone overboard with his outburst due to frustration but to label him as 'disloyal' is a 100% fallacy!
Unlike d atikus of ds world dt crisscrossed BTW PDP to APC and back to PDP, tinubu has stuck with APC from inception till date! And d treatment being meted out to him shouldn't be experienced by a LOYAL national leader of d party.

If ds had dropped from d mouth of d average southeasterner I won't flinch bcus den nor sabi keep friends. They will hail u for a thousand deeds/misdeeds (in as much as it favors them) only to remind u of ur roots when u say a truth they detest hearing..

The ppl who had been treacherous are those within d APC (both northerners and southerners) who seek to disenfranchise him of his right. Those are d 'disloyal' ones. The worst dt could/shd've happened is to allow him fail woefully at d primaries, at least that will have bn a plausible alibi to a pseudo-gangup instead of making it blatantly obvious!

My friend, u have a right to cane your child but d right to cry lies with him!
If you see Tinubu's rant against ds undemocratic last-minute goal shifting approach by APC as 'arrogant', 'disloyal', 'self a entitlement' etc, without as much as spare a peep at d cause, then u are clearly not unbiased!


@red:
In what way has tinubu betrayed 'arewa' that makes u blv he's no longer to be trusted? Has he in any way in d last 8 years acted in any manner to suggest such?
In d context of what is happening currently, who's suppose to no longer trust who?
Who's betraying who as we speak?
So, he speaking out against a perceived injustice against him means he's betrayed arewa right?
Lolz....

gentiles:
Let us be realistic, with or without Tinubu's outburst, Buhari would never have supported him for the Presidency. Tinubu is too naive and docile like most Yorubas to have believed that Buhari would support him.

bastardmod:
I waited patiently, because I knew you guys would find out what we already knew down here.

Ttalk:
When it comes to general election, Osinbajo is way ahead of any other candidate. It's only those that allowed emotion rule them would think Tinubu will defeat Atiku in this present circumstances

Ttalk:
There is nothing like Nigeria common goal. You know it deep down inside you. Buhari knows it and all Nigerian politicians know it.

You can pretend not but let's see if the lie would change anything for good

Ttalk:
Tinubu failed to learn from history. He had gotten much more than he could stomach hence the outburst.

The gangup didn't start today, it been there since Buhari came to power, but Tinubu pretended it was all okay because of his ambition even at the expense of his people.

Let Tinubu stomach the insult and embarrassment, it would be a lesson to future betrayal of the Southern common goal.

Ttalk:
Yen yen yen

After spending all your lifetime hating on Tinubu, now you now remember its the SE turn.

What did Ihedioha the green cap traitor do to realise Igbo presidency.?

You want people to support you but you never lift a hand to project your candidacy.

Someone like you should be banished together with Ihedioha into the Okija shrine in the evil forest.

Charity begins at home. But yours begin and end on Nairaland

bastardmod:
Believe me, buhari will not back tinubu.
He will not.

PrinceOfLagos:
One by one, Dem don dey go

We've frustrated Tinubu into shooting himself on the foot and I'm loving it

PrinceOfLagos:
I wonder how much Ashiere Tinubu paid this fool called Reno to sing his praises

bastardmod:
So who is exactly is the loyal ally? Tinubu? Osinbajo? Amaechi the Dan amanar daura?

Now you see, we see, what you don't want us to see

ScamHunter:
Tinubu should know that his chances are slim and only Peter Obi has national appeal from the south.

bastardmod:
The north will do all it can to make sure tinubu is not president. He is too much of a schemer and power monger for them .

youngpresidooo:
give ticket to Tinubu and experience another result like olu falae

No northerner will vote for him

Neither will SS OR SE vote for him.
He is one of the most feared politician and no one wants to risk giving him power

Although the president has not indicated who he is backing for the APC presidential primaries, an informed presidency source explained that “former President Jonathan is certainly not in the picture at all and the mentioning of his name has been invoking feelings of absurdity and ridicule in the Villa.”

Maxymilliano:
The bold headline from a major northern News outlet is enough to incite and cause a reprisal

Rugaria:
Mr Man!
Don't run away!!
You guys said that IPOB was responsible for the jail breaks and that they took responsibility for that. This may be true or false, I don't know. What I know is that I have never read or heard them claim to be responsible. Since you guys are making this claim, why not prove it!?
Don't run away! Prove to the reading public that IPOB was responsible for the Owerri jail break!
Oyah! We're waiting...

naijapips04:
Lol. Jokes on you. IPOB celebrated the jail breaks. We have tweets from your lord and saviour to that effect. You can't absolve yourself from something you fully supported.

Now show me one single evidence where Fulani herdmen claimed responsibility for any killings in the east. Can you? See the jokes on you, uchu.

9japride:
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Why are you acting this way? The explosion in Sokoto state that happened in the primary sch was later discovered to be from a bomb blast and not from a gas cylinder. Guy calm down, you guys can't be shouting one the most yet the hatred you have for your fellow countryman is terrible. The security crises in the east needs thorough investigation and not media trial/emotional blackmailing.

9japride:
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So you are not following up with the news concerning the bomb blast in Sokoto? How will you know was up? When you are neck deep inside south eastern matters. Dumb voters are responsible for voting in funny characters, it's not something you should dispute.

9japride:
Same way you guys pushed the narratived that the bomb explosion in Sokoto state was from gas cylinder without any investigation. It's very terrible how hatred can make people act. One thing I have noticed in the country, is the tendency to silence any critical reasoning. Everyone can't be acting dumb all the time. Dumb voters are the ones constantly voting in very funny characters who lack empathy.

onumadu:
If you notice, I NEVER asked that the presidency be zoned to South East. All I said was that the North should do for South East what it did for South West in 1999. It was not zoned to the South west; It was CEDED to South West. That is how Obasanjo came in, and the rest is history.
This writeup is actually addressing Northerners, NOT Southerners.
BTW thanks for being civil and intellectual in your response.

Godfullsam:
Tinubu will not find this funny at all.

I don't believe this news Sha!

You cant have the party chairman and the flag bearer in the same North.

Na only north Waka come?

Taba21:
How many did they tell you that nothing like political solutions for a horrific cannibals terrorists leader like cownu

SwissMass:
Binta the Fulani woman, just dey play the lord and savior of biafrans like jabulani, just they reject his bail application, so that the monkey will not jump over the fence again

humberjade:
All nah script, I doubt if this Buhari administration will release NK before the general elections next year. And considering the fact that he jumped bail the first time, it will be difficult for any Judge to sanction his bail appeals anytime soon, the court will keep adjourning the case to buy time. I really do hope I am wrong.

The plan is to keep both him and Igboho incarcerated and silent until this govt leaves. Know this and know peace.

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