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 Politics / Re: "Security Studying Shiites' Audio Message Threatening Revenge Of Zaria Attacks" by Rafidi: 8:01am On Dec 13, 2016 |
FriendChoice: so you are the judge and the juror. you want to teach me what i believe. it is unfortunate that sectarianism has eaten up your skull. does Iran go about executing people for being Sunnis? or are those executed people who have carried arms and fought the state to the extent of killing security agents? what of the Shia Iranians the Iranian government also executes for crimes? should Shia cry of persecution and claim Iranian govt is killing Shia even though the Iranian govt is Shia led? you speak of lies, but that is your mode. you have been blinded. when terrorists are caught, you dont see them as terrorists first. you look for their sectarian leaning. if they are Sunni, you call it persecution. it is the same thing happening in Syria. you are very unfair. 2 Likes |
| Politics / Re: "Security Studying Shiites' Audio Message Threatening Revenge Of Zaria Attacks" by Rafidi: 6:14am On Dec 13, 2016 |
Atiku2019: this is very correct. they (the IMN) have all along rejected all violence and insisted to maintain a path of peace and peaceful protest. trust them to release a statement to deny this audio if they are not the ones who composed it. but if they remain quiet and do not dismiss this audio as the work of their enemies to attribute violence to them, then know that the threat of the audio is serious or they are giving it a nod whether it was truly from one of them or not. 1 Like |
| Politics / Re: "Security Studying Shiites' Audio Message Threatening Revenge Of Zaria Attacks" by Rafidi: 6:10am On Dec 13, 2016 |
Stalwert: **** how you conclude it is right to address me personally for the silly actions of your fellow northerners (which do not justify the killings on them anyways), even though they are Shia like myself, is beyond me. you assume too foolishly. if you cannot promote peace, what do you want me to say? kill them all if you can and be happy!!! 16 Likes |
| Politics / Re: "Security Studying Shiites' Audio Message Threatening Revenge Of Zaria Attacks" by Rafidi: 6:08am On Dec 13, 2016 |
xolomonstrides: it is not true that we do not follow strictly Muhammad (pbuh) and instead we follow Imam Ali (as). not true at all. we believe to follow Ali (as) is the correct path to know and preserve the teachings of Muhammad (s) after the latter's passing away. the contention is not about the Prophet and the Imam, rather, it is between the (12) Imams of the Prophet's Ahlul-Bayt/household we Shia follow as rightful inheritors and successors against the caliphs Sunnis follow whom we believe were tyrants and usurpers. 2 Likes |
| Politics / Re: "Security Studying Shiites' Audio Message Threatening Revenge Of Zaria Attacks" by Rafidi: 11:30pm On Dec 12, 2016 |
FriendChoice: while normal people appeal for peace and try to quench the flames of fitnah and bloodshed, a wahhabi fanatic your like tries to add fuel to fire. be mindful of Allah, if you truly worship Him. Allah/Islam/the Prophet/the Quran do not encourage oppression/arrogance/fitnah/aggression/intimidation/bloodshed even against a kafir. bloodshed and enmity among humanity is depicted as the scheming of shaitan in the Quran. 23 Likes |
| Politics / "Security Studying Shiites' Audio Message Threatening Revenge Of Zaria Attacks" by Rafidi: 11:10pm On Dec 12, 2016 |
Security Agencies Studying Shiites' Audio Message Threatening Revenge Of Zaria Attacks “We swear to Almighty God that what they did to us we have not forgiven and we will never forgive." by Sahara Reporters, New York Dec 12, 2016 Security agencies are currently studying a purported audio message of an unnamed cleric of the Islamic Movement Nigeria (Shiites) threatening to avenge the death of over 300 members of the sect in last year's attack by Nigerian soldiers in Zaria, Kaduna State, SaharaReporters has learnt. The threat of reprisal, SaharaReporters learnt, is directed against the Nigerian military and the government. The attack, which took place exactly a year ago on Sunday, presaged the outlawing of the group. SaharaReporters' translation of the Hausa audio message yielded naked threats to the military and government. It detailed the attacks on the sect, describing the country as an animal kingdom and warning that the group has not forgiven attacks against its members and will never forgive. The message alleged that the sect has been treated with disdain, claiming that Niger Delta militants and Boko Haram, who are in open armed conflict with the country, are treated with leniency. The group warned that if any untoward thing should happen to its leader, Ibrahim El Zakzaky, the whole of the country will be made to pay. See transcript below: “We were just killed like that in a broad daylight. There was no any reason for that massacre apart from the fact we say Prophet Muhammad is the messenger of God and we wanted to adhere to the part that was brought by the Prophet Muhammad. To them, why should we say that? That's why they created laws that were not in the constitution; that were not in the state bills, that were not in any law in any nation and implemented them on us. “So, what happened from December to date has taught us many lessons. First of all, we knew which country we are living in. We knew that we are living in the animal kingdom. We knew our enemies within us. We knew the laws that were made for us. We knew their weaknesses. What we are telling them now with a harsh voice that it is one year from the mass killings in Zaria. And is also two weeks now from the mass killings in Kano. We are also fully aware of their plan for another mass killings. “We swear to Almighty God that what they did to us we have not forgiven and we will never forgive. We did not stop, and we will never stop. We swear to Almighty God we must take revenge. We all now know their language because what we thought was these people have a sense of reasoning since we have so many times told them that we don't carry weapons and we don't fight. Thinking that they will call us for reconciliation, but instead, they are killing us daily and pushing us to the wall. “Is this how we are going to allow these people to be killing us? To kill our men, our women, and our children? Is this how we are going to live? We must take all possible means to start protecting ourselves. We want this message to reach them that we will start protecting ourselves. If we we are living in a country where there is a government, we may expect something to be done. But we realize that we are living with animals. That is why we are telling them in a harsh voice we will start protecting ourselves. We will not fold our arms so that everyday they will come and kill our women and children. “Niger Delta militants have their arms with them fighting the government, killing the soldiers, killing policemen and vandalizing oil pipelines. But up to now, they are not killed like us. Boko Haram also have their weapons, killing soldiers, policemen, but the number killed are also not like us, we the followers of Malam Zakzaky. This is just to show that if we had taken our weapons, we wouldn't have being killed like this. They have killed over 2,000 among us just like that. We swear we will start protecting ourselves. We will not continue just to sit down like that and be killed. Common sense will not accept this. “The only solution to this problem is, we either stop practising our religion, so that they will stop killing us or we take some measures to protect ourselves so that everyone will suffer. One life is not superior to the other. This is my message and I can repeat it everywhere and in front anyone. “We are still saying that if anything happens to our leader, Malam Zakzaky, I swear, it will affect everybody. No one will live in peace. Let them not think that if they kill our leader, we will just cry, mourn, wear black clothes and leave everything to God. We are going to change our approach in a way no one expects.”  Shiites mourning procession in Kano Photo Credit: Sahara Reporters Media http://saharareporters.com/2016/12/12/security-agencies-studying-shiites-audio-message-threatening-revenge-zaria-attacks cc seun lalasticlala |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: Case Settled Maulud HALAL Or HARAM. Cme In Nd See 4 Ur Self. (photo) by Rafidi: 12:41pm On Dec 12, 2016 |
muhamadnur: I cannot tell if it is shirk based on an inanimate picture. The picture there may just be by coincidence and I have no details into whether Tijjaniyyah Sufi order worship images |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: Maulud: Mercy To The Worlds- Arguments For Its Validity By Adamu Adamu by Rafidi: 12:39pm On Dec 12, 2016 |
muhamadnur: I cannot tell if it is shirk based on an inanimate picture. The picture there may just be by coincidence and I have no details into whether Tijjaniyyah Sufi order worship images. |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: Maulud: Mercy To The Worlds- Arguments For Its Validity By Adamu Adamu by Rafidi: 9:56am On Dec 12, 2016 |
9inches: not some Muslims...Wahhabis do not celebrate birthday of the Prophet (s). but these hypocrites celebrate the birthday of the King in Saudi Arabia. they also celebrate the national day of saudi (the birthday of saudi arabia). likewise they declare other Muslims who visit the graves of holy people, but they visit the grave of politicians and place wreath. hypocrisy!!! wahhabi saudi arabia is the country that identify itself as Muslim that does not celebrate mawlud. everything that has to do with peace, and upholding Islamic heritage and honoring the figures of Islam, these Wahhabis are against. the same reasons they go about blowing up Muslims in the name of Takfir and declaring them apostates and out of the pale of Islam. they have problems with all of humanity. they hate christians, they hate hindus, they hate buddhist, they call atheists terrorists in saudi arabia, and they even kill other Muslims, especially Shia. worse, they even kill the very Sunnis who disagree with them and reject the wahhabi ideology of Muhammad Ibn Abdul-Wahab. all they do is to sow division and hatred among Muslims. they control the holiest places of Islam, and they have huge money from oil and they have the backing of the western powers. when you hear that ISLAM IS PEACE, it is true! Islam is peace. but wahhabis want to turn Islam into terror. Muhammad (s), the prophet of Allah is described in the Quran as "mercy unto humanity". but Wahhabis want to make it look like he was a curse to humanity. so please, all and all, differentiate between Islam and Wahhabism. Islam is the path of peaceful Muslims. Wahhabism is the path and ideology that fuels terrorism of the likes of boko, isis, alqaeda, al shabab, al-this and al-that. they are describing Mawlud celebration as a Shia initiation. it is not. it is Sunnah and Islamic to celebrate the Prophet's (s) birthday. nothing wrong with honoring the Prophet's (s) memory. mainstream Sunnis celebrate Mawlud. that shows you Muslims are united after all the bloodshed wahhabism has caused to divide Sunnis and Shia. the Prophet Muhammad (s) is a uniting force and his birthday should not and will not divide us. anyone who claims mawlud is "Shia", tell him that not celebrating mawlud is Wahhabi; and not celebrating it has nothing to do with Islam. |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: It's Maulid Nabiyy, Let's Celebrate Our Prophet. by Rafidi: 9:55am On Dec 12, 2016 |
9inches: not some Muslims...Wahhabis do not celebrate birthday of the Prophet (s). but these hypocrites celebrate the birthday of the King in Saudi Arabia. they also celebrate the national day of saudi (the birthday of saudi arabia). likewise they declare other Muslims who visit the graves of holy people, but they visit the grave of politicians and place wreath. hypocrisy!!! wahhabi saudi arabia is the country that identify itself as Muslim that does not celebrate mawlud. everything that has to do with peace, and upholding Islamic heritage and honoring the figures of Islam, these Wahhabis are against. the same reasons they go about blowing up Muslims in the name of Takfir and declaring them apostates and out of the pale of Islam. they have problems with all of humanity. they hate christians, they hate hindus, they hate buddhist, they call atheists terrorists in saudi arabia, and they even kill other Muslims, especially Shia. worse, they even kill the very Sunnis who disagree with them and reject the wahhabi ideology of Muhammad Ibn Abdul-Wahab. all they do is to sow division and hatred among Muslims. they control the holiest places of Islam, and they have huge money from oil and they have the backing of the western powers. when you hear that ISLAM IS PEACE, it is true! Islam is peace. but wahhabis want to turn Islam into terror. Muhammad (s), the prophet of Allah is described in the Quran as "mercy unto humanity". but Wahhabis want to make it look like he was a curse to humanity. so please, all and all, differentiate between Islam and Wahhabism. Islam is the path of peaceful Muslims. Wahhabism is the path and ideology that fuels terrorism of the likes of boko, isis, alqaeda, al shabab, al-this and al-that. they are describing Mawlud celebration as a Shia initiation. it is not. it is Sunnah and Islamic to celebrate the Prophet's (s) birthday. nothing wrong with honoring the Prophet's (s) memory. mainstream Sunnis celebrate Mawlud. that shows you Muslims are united after all the bloodshed wahhabism has caused to divide Sunnis and Shia. the Prophet Muhammad (s) is a uniting force and his birthday should not and will not divide us. anyone who claims mawlud is "Shia", tell him that not celebrating mawlud is Wahhabi; and not celebrating it has nothing to do with Islam. 2 Likes |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: "Reasons Why You Should Not Celebrate Maulud Nabiyy: Supposed Prophet's Birthday by Rafidi: 9:55am On Dec 12, 2016 |
9inches: not some Muslims...Wahhabis do not celebrate birthday of the Prophet (s). but these hypocrites celebrate the birthday of the King in Saudi Arabia. they also celebrate the national day of saudi (the birthday of saudi arabia). likewise they declare other Muslims who visit the graves of holy people, but they visit the grave of politicians and place wreath. hypocrisy!!! wahhabi saudi arabia is the country that identify itself as Muslim that does not celebrate mawlud. everything that has to do with peace, and upholding Islamic heritage and honoring the figures of Islam, these Wahhabis are against. the same reasons they go about blowing up Muslims in the name of Takfir and declaring them apostates and out of the pale of Islam. they have problems with all of humanity. they hate christians, they hate hindus, they hate buddhist, they call atheists terrorists in saudi arabia, and they even kill other Muslims, especially Shia. worse, they even kill the very Sunnis who disagree with them and reject the wahhabi ideology of Muhammad Ibn Abdul-Wahab. all they do is to sow division and hatred among Muslims. they control the holiest places of Islam, and they have huge money from oil and they have the backing of the western powers. when you hear that ISLAM IS PEACE, it is true! Islam is peace. but wahhabis want to turn Islam into terror. Muhammad (s), the prophet of Allah is described in the Quran as "mercy unto humanity". but Wahhabis want to make it look like he was a curse to humanity. so please, all and all, differentiate between Islam and Wahhabism. Islam is the path of peaceful Muslims. Wahhabism is the path and ideology that fuels terrorism of the likes of boko, isis, alqaeda, al shabab, al-this and al-that. they are describing Mawlud celebration as a Shia initiation. it is not. it is Sunnah and Islamic to celebrate the Prophet's (s) birthday. nothing wrong with honoring the Prophet's (s) memory. mainstream Sunnis celebrate Mawlud. that shows you Muslims are united after all the bloodshed wahhabism has caused to divide Sunnis and Shia. the Prophet Muhammad (s) is a uniting force and his birthday should not and will not divide us. anyone who claims mawlud is "Shia", tell him that not celebrating mawlud is Wahhabi; and not celebrating it has nothing to do with Islam. |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: The Origin Of Maulud - Part Of Islam Or Innovation by Rafidi: 6:58pm On Dec 09, 2016 |
9inches: not some Muslims...Wahhabis do not celebrate birthday of the Prophet (s). but these hypocrites celebrate the birthday of the King in Saudi Arabia. they also celebrate the national day of saudi (the birthday of saudi arabia). likewise they declare other Muslims who visit the graves of holy people, but they visit the grave of politicians and place wreath. hypocrisy!!! wahhabi saudi arabia is the country that identify itself as Muslim that does not celebrate mawlud. everything that has to do with peace, and upholding Islamic heritage and honoring the figures of Islam, these Wahhabis are against. the same reasons they go about blowing up Muslims in the name of Takfir and declaring them apostates and out of the pale of Islam. they have problems with all of humanity. they hate christians, they hate hindus, they hate buddhist, they call atheists terrorists in saudi arabia, and they even kill other Muslims, especially Shia. worse, they even kill the very Sunnis who disagree with them and reject the wahhabi ideology of Muhammad Ibn Abdul-Wahab. all they do is to sow division and hatred among Muslims. they control the holiest places of Islam, and they have huge money from oil and they have the backing of the western powers. when you hear that ISLAM IS PEACE, it is true! Islam is peace. but wahhabis want to turn Islam into terror. Muhammad (s), the prophet of Allah is described in the Quran as "mercy unto humanity". but Wahhabis want to make it look like he was a curse to humanity. so please, all and all, differentiate between Islam and Wahhabism. Islam is the path of peaceful Muslims. Wahhabism is the path and ideology that fuels terrorism of the likes of boko, isis, alqaeda, al shabab, al-this and al-that. they are describing Mawlud celebration as a Shia initiation. it is not. it is Sunnah and Islamic to celebrate the Prophet's (s) birthday. nothing wrong with honoring the Prophet's (s) memory. mainstream Sunnis celebrate Mawlud. that shows you Muslims are united after all the bloodshed wahhabism has caused to divide Sunnis and Shia. the Prophet Muhammad (s) is a uniting force and his birthday should not and will not divide us. anyone who claims mawlud is "Shia", tell him that not celebrating mawlud is Wahhabi; and not celebrating it has nothing to do with Islam. |
| Politics / Re: FG Declares Monday Public Holiday To Mark Eid-El-Maulud by Rafidi: 11:35am On Dec 09, 2016 |
9inches: not some Muslims...Wahhabis do not celebrate birthday of the Prophet (s). but these hypocrites celebrate the birthday of the King in Saudi Arabia. they also celebrate the national day of saudi (the birthday of saudi arabia). likewise they declare other Muslims who visit the graves of holy people, but they visit the grave of politicians and place wreath. hypocrisy!!! wahhabi saudi arabia is the country that identify itself as Muslim that does not celebrate mawlud. everything that has to do with peace, and upholding Islamic heritage and honoring the figures of Islam, these Wahhabis are against. the same reasons they go about blowing up Muslims in the name of Takfir and declaring them apostates and out of the pale of Islam. they have problems with all of humanity. they hate christians, they hate hindus, they hate buddhist, they call atheists terrorists in saudi arabia, and they even kill other Muslims, especially Shia. worse, they even kill the very Sunnis who disagree with them and reject the wahhabi ideology of Muhammad Ibn Abdul-Wahab. all they do is to sow division and hatred among Muslims. they control the holiest places of Islam, and they have huge money from oil and they have the backing of the western powers. when you hear that ISLAM IS PEACE, it is true! Islam is peace. but wahhabis want to turn Islam into terror. Muhammad (s), the prophet of Allah is described in the Quran as "mercy unto humanity". but Wahhabis want to make it look like he was a curse to humanity. so please, all and all, differentiate between Islam and Wahhabism. Islam is the path of peaceful Muslims. Wahhabism is the path and ideology that fuels terrorism of the likes of boko, isis, alqaeda, al shabab, al-this and al-that. they are describing Mawlud celebration as a Shia initiation. it is not. it is Sunnah and Islamic to celebrate the Prophet's (s) birthday. nothing wrong with honoring the Prophet's (s) memory. mainstream Sunnis celebrate Mawlud. that shows you Muslims are united after all the bloodshed wahhabism has caused to divide Sunnis and Shia. the Prophet Muhammad (s) is a uniting force and his birthday should not and will not divide us. anyone who claims mawlud is "Shia", tell him that not celebrating mawlud is Wahhabi; and not celebrating it has nothing to do with Islam. 1 Like |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: 25 Amazing Photos From Hajj 1953 by Rafidi: 9:41pm On Dec 08, 2016 |
Newnas: stupid...may Allah bless the oppressed people of the eastern province whose wealth have been used and abused. what they used from that wealth to develop Makkah is like a drop in the ocean compared to what they squander for holidays in europe following ashewos and gambling and doing haram, every type of haram. may Allah also bless the Muslim ummah whom al-Saud tax heavily for visa to perform hajj. Makkah belongs to all Muslims. how much visa fee do al Saud impose on the Muslims to perform hajj? what of the expensive hotels and american franchises in the holy land that are ripping off Muslim pilgrims? compare the hajj season of not more than three million pilgrims to the Arbaeen visitation in Karbala during which over twenty to thirty million visitors flood to the holy city of Karbala. compare the visa fee, compare the free food, the free accommodation, the kindness of the Iraqis etc. what nonsense are you feeding us with your sectarian bird eye.
ameen...depending if you truly know who those "rightly guided (12) caliphs" are as prophesied by the Prophet (s). |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: Prostration (Sujood) On Soil-What Is The Justification? by Rafidi: 9:24pm On Dec 08, 2016 |
Empiree: at a time intolerance is at all time high, even if i have the turbah with me i wouldnt pray on it. the Shia face the same issue during hajj. the saudis or other intolerant zealots would kick it away. the Shia pilgrims have deviced two ways to use the turbah in Makkah or during the hajj season. they wear it round their neck like a chain and prostrate on it when they go down. or they use wooden mats.
aside from the fact that we insist that prostration is done on the earth, as the Prophet (s) did, of course without a shadow of doubt we place importance on prostration on the turbah from Karbala particularly. we believe Karbala is a garden of the gardens of paradise. the paradise of Allah on earth. the land where the purest of blood was shed. a land that has tradition with the prophets of Allah like Adam and Noah. this is based on our understanding as Shia and the hadiths we have passed to us from the holy Imams of the Ahlul-Bayt (as). no one really expects you to understand, accept or see this as important. you do not follow the holy Imams of the Ahlul-Bayt (as) as sources of your shariah. you see them as either some nobodies or some "holy toys" you only praise with your lips. our love for the Ahlul-Bayt (as) means obedience to their words and emulating their deeds. to us they are the inheritors of knowledge, the executors of the prophetic will, Allah's store of wisdom, Allah's proof to His creations, the protectors of the shariah whom the Prophet (s) ordered us to follow his sunnah and the sunnah of his rightly guided successors. they are the rightly guided successors whose sunnah we follow as we follow the sunnah of Muhammad (s). so when we emphasize on certain things that you overlook or consider as not important or even as bid'ah, it stems from followership. who do you follow after the Prophet (s). the same goes regarding all divisive issues between the Sunnis and Shia like mutah, Ashura, Arabaeen, taraweeh wudu etc. the Prophet (s) prevented his companions from using their clothes to pray in the desert even when the sun was scorching hot. he insisted that they pray on the earth. they then used water to make the sand cold. and centuries later you want to convince me i should use wool to pray on because it is "cool" and looks beautiful and expensive. no i am not convinced. continue using your nice persian rugs. we will continue praying on clay or any direct product from the earth like wooden mats or khumra as the Prophet (s) did. and the Prophet (s) exactly warned: "pray as you have seen me pray". the significance of sujood on the earth is humility to Allah (swt). it has to do with khushoo. it has to do with the fact that the earth is masjid and for prostration. it has so many spiritual meanings and hidden meanings that perhaps we are yet to grasp. so my brother, it is your choice. the problem is in those who do not allow us to have our own choice. |
| Politics / Re: What Is "Dariqa Muslims": Political Understanding Of Muslim Divisions/groups by Rafidi: 9:10pm On Dec 08, 2016 |
FriendChoice: ok  |
| Politics / Re: What Is "Dariqa Muslims": Political Understanding Of Muslim Divisions/groups by Rafidi: 9:25am On Dec 08, 2016 |
maclatunji: so you are still alive? the Nairaland chief Wahhabi extremist himself is out. please you should get the Iranian ambassador to explain to you little one! but to call and label everyone who differs with you in opinion, view, belief, creed and expression "iranian proxies" shows your level of tolerance and intelligence. so one can no longer be Shia in faith without being labeled "iranian proxy" by some little brains with big mouths. even worse, when has opening a thread to express views become "shenanigans" and "mischief-making"? your own view is aimed at silencing everyone. why not instead use your big grammar to express your own views if you disagree with another view? why not be diplomatic instead of dragging the name of the president to your level of intolerance? you sound so un-smart that even a simple thread got you panting while you sugarcoat it with "hilarious". perhaps you have learrt new words you want to use. 3 Likes |
| Politics / Re: What Is "Dariqa Muslims": Political Understanding Of Muslim Divisions/groups by Rafidi: 9:20am On Dec 08, 2016 |
FriendChoice: fantastic! this was the reply i wanted. the number does not matter even if it is seven in over a thousand years. then here are examples of Sunnis who have believed in Tahrif (alteration) of the Quran (therefore you are called upon to renounce your Sunni faith and generalize that all Sunnis believe in Tahrif) : http://www.wilayat.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2716:sunni-belief-in-tahrif-and-their-false-defence-of-nasikh-al-tilawa&catid=189:others&lang=en&Itemid=108 and foremost amongst them, is the hadith of the mother of the believers Aisha, who is very much glorified by Sunnis, as mentioned in Sahih Bukhari that a verse called the verse of stoning was chewed by a goat whilst it was kept underneath her bed. and this is evidence from the foremost Shia resource website that the consensus of Shia Muslims and their scholars reject Tahrif: https://www.al-islam.org/shiite-encyclopedia-ahlul-bayt-dilp-team/belief-shia-in-completeness-quran |
| Politics / Re: What Is "Dariqa Muslims": Political Understanding Of Muslim Divisions/groups by Rafidi: 6:10pm On Dec 07, 2016 |
FriendChoice: the link you presented counters your claims. -only seven scholars in the history of Shia Islam are said to have disputed the authenticity of the Quran. -the Shia Quran and the Sunni Quran are identical in text. -your two extra chapters claim is said to be "polemical". |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: Prostration (Sujood) On Soil-What Is The Justification? by Rafidi: 6:23pm On Dec 06, 2016 |
Sa’id Ibn Al Mussayab stated that praying on cloth was Bida’h Imam of Ahle Sunnah, Jusrit of all Jurists and the most superior among all Tabaeen Saeed bin al Mussayyib had the following views about praying on carpet/cloth. Ibn Sa`ad records from Qatadah: أخبرنا قتادة قال سألت سعيد بن المسيب عن الصلاة على الطنفسة فقال محدث “I asked Sa’id Ibn Al Mussayyib about praying on carpets. He said ‘It is something new’.” Tabqaat Ibn Saad, Vol. 3 Page 160, By Mohammad bin Saad Al-Basri Tabqaat Ibn Saad, Vol. 3 Page 160, By Mohammad bin Saad Al-Basri In the Urdu version of Tabaqat al Kubra we read: “Narrated from Qatadah that when Sa’id Ibn Al Mussayyib was asked about praying on cloth, He said: ‘It is Bidah’.” Tabaqat Ibn Sa`ad (Urdu), Vol 3 Part 5 page 160 (published by Daarul Ishaat Karachi) Sahabi Abdullah Ibn Masud never prostrated other than on soil Those ignorant Nasibis who call Shia innovators and deviated for keeping a Sagdagah with them for prostration during prayers shall read about the practice of a great Sahabi Abdullah Ibn Masud who never prared on anything other than soil. We read the testimony of another Sahabi Abu Ubaidah recorded by Al Haythami in his Majma’ al-Zawa’id by, Volume 2 page 57 Hadith 2272: وعن أبي عبيدة أن ابن مسعود كان لا يصلي أو لا يسجد إلا على الأرض. “Abu Ubaidah narrates that the companion Ibn Mas’ud never prayed or prostrated except on the soil” read more: http://www.shiapen.com/fiqh/shia-method-of-prayers-salat/turbah.html |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: Prostration (Sujood) On Soil-What Is The Justification? by Rafidi: 6:22pm On Dec 06, 2016 |
in Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 11, Number 638: Narrated Abu Sa’id Al-Khudri: A cloud came and it rained till the roof started leaking and in thosedays the roof used to be of the branches of date-palms. Iqama was pronounced and I saw Allah’s Apostles prostrating in water and mud and even I saw the mark of mud on his forehead. in Sunan Abu Dawud, Urdu Edition, page 381, 376: “The Prophet (s) had the sign of Mud on his forehead and Nose, due to prostration on Mud” All of the below traditions have been taken from Volume 7 of Kanz ul Ummal from the section on sujood laws/hadiths: We read in Kanz ul Ummal, Vol 7 Tradition No. 19804 “From Umm Attiya it is narrated that the Salat of one who does not place his nose right on the EARTH is not accepted” We should also point out that Ali Muttaqi al-Hindi raises no objection to this tradition in Kanz ul Ummal. We also read: Ibn Attiya narrates “Verily God does not accept the Salat of One who does not put his Nose right on the EARTH/SOIL”. Kanz ul Ummal, Volume 7 Hadith 19775 we read the fatwa of Sahabi Abdullah Ibn Abbas: “Abdullah Ibn Abbas said: He who doesnt put his nose with his forehead on the Earth/Soil when doing Sajdah (Prostration), his Salat is invalid” We have taken this from the following Sunni sources 1. Kanz ul Ummal Vol 7, Page 464 (No. 19802) 2. Al Mu’jam al Awsat by Tabarani Vol3, Page 139 (No. 4111) |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: Prostration (Sujood) On Soil-What Is The Justification? by Rafidi: 6:15pm On Dec 06, 2016 |
Empiree: brother, are those attachments the only ahadith found in regards to prostration on the earth? those hadiths do not contradict praying on earth or from products of the earth. if you had read the preceding posts, we wont have to rehearse. we Shia maintain based on the prophetic hadith, that we should pray as the Prophet (s) prayed. from all indications, we insist that we pray on the earth. if we cant pray on the earth, then we can pray on any material that is a product of the earth. khumrah or palm leaf is fine. wooden mats are also fine. even paper is fine to prostrate on if you cannot prostrate on the earth. however, it is evident from a number of sources that prostration is on the earth. the prostration on persian rugs or turkish carpets is an innovation. even Ibn Taymiyyah had passed a fatwa against it. it is an innovation in salat that later came to be accepted. |
| Politics / MURIC Blasts Kaduna Government For Labelling Shiite IMN “insurgent Group” by Rafidi: 6:07pm On Dec 06, 2016 |
Muslim Rights Concern blasts Kaduna government for labelling Shiite IMN “insurgent group” http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/217176-muslim-rights-concern-blasts-kaduna-government-labelling-shiite-imn-insurgent-group.html 7 Likes
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| Politics / Re: Kaduna Government Officially Labels Shiite IMN "Insurgent" by Rafidi: 3:51pm On Dec 05, 2016 |
El-Rufai has officially gone mad! he is paying Fulani terrorists to stop killing Christians while he labels a religious organization that has not carried arms against the state or fellow Nigerians "insurgents". why not pay the Shiite IMN money too to stop being "insurgents"? oh, wait! it is because the IMN are not deadly and bloodthirsty. it is impossible for any government, power, tyrant, or force to eliminate a population. the Shiite Muslims are a population on earth. they are found everywhere on earth. there is no way therefore (in this time and age) their influence cannot spread to Nigeria and Nigerian citizens can stop being Shia no matter the numbers. El-Rufai is fighting a lost war and even further aggravating the situation instead of calming things and working out solutions for these guys to do what he wants and how he wants through peaceful means. from the reversed psychology and preemptive reasoning of holding Zakzaky responsible for any actions of his followers based on the release, one can see El-Rufai is tormented and having a guilty conscience, if he still has a conscience. 99 Likes 4 Shares |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: Prostration (Sujood) On Soil-What Is The Justification? by Rafidi: 9:49am On Dec 05, 2016 |
Empiree: brother, why do you sound confused and scared? are you insinuating that there are Muslims, and in particular Shia, who attribute specifi deity with it? what sort of statement is that? you have been presented with facts from Sunni Sahih books that even in the time of the Prophet (s), the Prophet (s) insisted that the companions pray on earth/clay and not on any material. and it is also mentioned that companions molded clay and did sujood on it. and you have been told time without number that we prostrate ON it and not TO it or FOR it. if it is not a matter of imaginative "shirk", it is about how convenient in carrying it around. your first point is about carrying it around being a burden. i asked you if carrying prayer mats around can also be seen as burder. you have skipped that first point and raised another insinuation. regarding the clay/turbah from Karbala, it is from a holy land, and there is no Shia who would have access to turbah (clay) from Karbala and would leave that to pray on ordinary clay from elsewhere or in somewhere else. the sanctity of Karbala is not a matter of dispute to the generality of Sunnis aside the Wahhabis. there is no doubt that Karbala is holy. |
| Politics / Re: Court Orders Immediate Release Of El-Zakzaky, Fines SSS by Rafidi: 11:17pm On Dec 02, 2016 |
hakym619: why must the ignorant always have an opinion? Alqaeda, ISIS, Boko and all their affiliates and associates and siblings and their likes are Sunni Wahhabi/Salafist extremists. Zakzaky and his followers are mainly Shia. the Wahhabi/Salafist extremists view the Shia Muslims as "heretics" and "apostates" who should be killed. the two are like oil and water. they don't mix. there is excommunication. |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: Prostration (Sujood) On Soil-What Is The Justification? by Rafidi: 11:19am On Dec 02, 2016 |
Empiree: is it also burden to carry prayer mats around?  the point is whether on a piece of clay, or directly on the earth, do you agree that prostrating on the mat is not sunnah? |
| Politics / Re: Fg’s Silence On Zaria Killings Worrisome – Odinkalu by Rafidi: 5:30am On Nov 29, 2016 |
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| Politics / Re: "Evidence Emerges Of Mass Burials After Arbaeen Massacre Of Shia In Kano"- IHRC by Rafidi: 6:28pm On Nov 25, 2016 |
mukhcech: There is really no way to ascertain from the pics that these are not graves, or that they are really graves, without investigation. The IHRC making such claim will have many believing it. The IHRC was first to report on mass grave in kaduna after last year's Zaria massacre; even before Amnesty International released footage and the kaduna state government confessed. The presence of those pots with no potters and no sign of ongoing work can be understood or misunderstood as distraction. Regardless, the precedence of the Zaria massacre and the kaduna state government admitting to a mass grave of 347 Shia Muslims at Mando will make many skeptical in whatever one says to refute these new claims. The Zaria massacre is just recent and then we have fresh shootings in Kano of members of the same religious group and of the same religious affiliation. I think exhuming the bodies in the mass grave already present in kaduna to the admission/confession of the state government and handing over the bodies to their families will be a start to remedy the situation. It will be painful and seen as hard to do. But steps have to be taken if what has been done is to be remedied. 1 Like |
| Politics / Re: "Evidence Emerges Of Mass Burials After Arbaeen Massacre Of Shia In Kano"- IHRC by Rafidi: 3:09pm On Nov 25, 2016 |
megamank: with such "wonderful" strategy of "kill them before they grow", even you and I can be victims and it will be justified by your strategy. 7 Likes |
| Islam for Muslims / True Colours: Saudi Arabia Resorts To Slander To Tarnish Both Iraq And Arbaeen by Rafidi: 9:44pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
True Colours: Saudi Arabia resorts to slander to tarnish both Iraq and Arbaeen 11/24/2016 05:38 am ET “He who knows how to flatter also knows how to slander.” - Napoleon Bonaparte I don’t think this quote has ever rung more pertinently true. I also think that Saudi Arabia’s recent faux-pas towards Iraq and Shia Islam most brilliantly exemplified the abominable sectarian nature of the kingdom’s dogmatic aberration: Wahhabism. Earlier this week, on the day which marks the culmination of the pilgrimage of Arbaeen in Iraq, Saudi-owned newspaper Asharq-al-Awsat published a slanderous report in which it claimed that the women of Karbala engaged in less than savoury relations during the pilgrimage. Arbaeen is the 40-day mourning period following Ashura, the religious ritual for the commemoration of the Prophet Mohammad’s grandson’s death in 680 AD. The report has since been removed by Asharq-al-Awsat and its editor in chief was made to resign. The article quoted a fabricated World Health Organisation spokesperson as saying that after last year’s pilgrimage more than 169 Iraqi women became pregnant out of wedlock. The UN’s health agency almost immediately refuted the allegation noting: “claim that this information was released by a WHO headquarters communications officer is completely erroneous”. In its statement, the WHO said Saudi media-spread citations on illegitimate children being conceived and born during Arbaeen religious ceremonies in eastern Iraq are false. The international body’s statement said that all quotes published on an online Saudi portal are untrue and cannot be referenced to the organization. The WHO criticized the exploitation of its name and authenticity by the website “ASHRAQ Al-AWSAT” or otherwise known by “Free Voices.” The media outlet had misleadingly cited one of the organization’s spokespersons based in Geneva. The WHO condemned the website, and renounced the report saying that it was fabricated and did not go with the moral set and values upheld by the body. WHO Regional Director for the Eastern Mediterranean Dr. Ala Alwan, in a letter sent to Asharq Al-Awsat, confirmed that the organization had not made any statements on the subject matter, and that he strongly condemns the false citation and referencing the incorrect information to the WHO in media reports. Dr. Alwan added that the report made does not relate or fall in line with the principals and values held and promoted by the health body. More so, the organization warned the abuse of its title in such matters by the media, especially first fact checking the information. Saudi Arabia now finds itself in the middle of a scandal which is unlikely to die down easily – not when its intentions were so clearly aimed at discrediting both Iraq and Shia Islam. Only this time truth has caught up with the Wahhabi kingdom. This time Riyadh’s manipulation was far too grave for anyone to entertain its lunacy. Lunacy is in fact what animates the Saudi kingdom – that and a hate so grand that it would stoop to slander to prevent the world from acknowledging the inspiring display of devotion and loyalty Muslims and non-Muslims have demonstrated by raising Imam Hussain ibn Ali’s banner in Karbala. Almost 30 million pilgrims – of all walks of life, ethnicities and faiths were gathered in Karbala this November. In peace, in devotion, in remembrance almost 30 million souls pledged their loyalty to the Third Imam, and where he fell martyred they vowed to raise a movement to defy Tyranny. Maybe such declaration was too much for the kingdom to bear. Maybe the stand of Imam Hussain stood too much of a reminder that tyrants do in fact fall a great fall when Truth is spoken by the oppressed. What an irony indeed it is to see tyrants reveal themselves by the injustice of their deeds! But beyond the lies and fabrications we ought to recognise the seed of sectarian hate and fanaticism. Beyond this rather pathetic attempt to brush Iraqi women as women of little virtue, when Iraq proved most generous and kind to pilgrims at a time when the nation has suffered the greatest of oppression … Daesh we will do well to remember still roams in Iraq: pillaging and killing. Still Iraq proved generous, Iraq also proved most graceful and kind to its guests. The same cannot be said of Saudi Arabia when too often its own pilgrims have suffered tremendous abuses and restrictions on their personal freedom. A study sponsored by the Shafaqna Institute for Middle Eastern Studies this summer established how violently oppressive and repressive the kingdom has acted to its own religious minorities, carrying such sectarianism to the heart of the Hajj pilgrimage by blocking access to al-Baqee cemetery in Medina and other holy sites to non-Wahhabi pilgrims. Wahhabism today is working to erode at the fabric of Islam – just as it has eroded and claimed away Islam’s religious history and Islam’s religious heritage, and under a mountain of lies bury the Truth. It needs to be said that if the Islamic world suffers from a divide it is in between Muslims and Wahhabis, not Shiites and Sunnis. Shia and Sunni Islam have no theological quarrels. Just as Wahhabi hordes befell the holy of Karbala in the 18th century so that Imam Hussain’s shrine would be torn down and all its followers massacred, Wahhabism’s foot-soldiers aim to discredit Shia Islam, by challenging its people’s morality. We only have to look upon the destruction Wahhabism has claimed over the centuries to realise that this nefarious ideology is at war with all religions … maybe in its folly God himself. It is absolutism Wahhabism seeks to assert, it is exclusionism and fanaticism it wants to institutionalise so that all freedoms could be disappeared to their black flag. In an interview I conducted for The Duran the Baqee Organization noted the following: “Failure to protect them [holy sites] from destruction is the biggest tragedy for the Islamic architectural heritage. The Saudi royal family claims to be guardians of the holy places of Islam, and profit hugely from the centuries by visiting believers to Mecca and Medina for pilgrimage. And yet, they are party to this barbaric desecration of the holiest sites in the Islamic world.” And “Today, the religious zealots in Saudi Arabia are not alone. Commercial developers such as Bin Laden Group have joined hands with them and are making hundreds of millions in profits as they build ugly, but lucrative high-rises that are shadowing the Grand Mosque known as the Ka’aba. Today Saudi petrodollars have the ability to silence even its most vocal critics, but when all is said and done, history will render a harsh judgment on those who try to wipe out its footprints and steal the heritage of all humanity.” I will add this: today Wahhabism feels so secure in its alliances, wealth and political power that it is moving its war to the spiritual realm. I will offer this warning: “Beware of the supplication of the oppressed, for there is no barrier between it and Allah”, Prophet Muhammad – Sahih al-Bukharu 4090. Readers will note that I have used a source not even Wahhabis will contest. One last point I would like to make before I take my leave: Saudi Arabia has no lesson in morality to offer the Iraqi people – not when it has itself proven such a shameful model of depravity. I recall how only recently one of Saudi Arabia’s Wahhabi imam educated the male population in a lesson of “how best to beat your wife”. I also recall that child marriage remains rampant in the kingdom, and how instrumental the kingdom has been in exploiting and trafficking children … Mirror, mirror on the wall who is the most abominable of all … http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/true-colours-saudi-arabia-resorts-to-slander-to-tarnish_us_5836c18fe4b0c2ab944367c7? CC: Seun |
| Politics / Saudi Arabia Condemns Reports On Role In Sunnite War Against Shiites In Nigeria by Rafidi: 3:42pm On Nov 20, 2016 |
SAUDI ARABIA CONDEMNS REPORTS ON ROLE IN SUNNITE WAR AGAINST SHIITES IN NIGERIA AFRICA, MIDDLE EASTBY NEWSRESCUENOVEMBER 20, 2016 By Abdullateef Salau The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has condemned media reports that Northern Nigeria has become the latest battleground in the proxy war between Iran and Saudi Arabia, after violent clashes between supporters of rival groups from the two main branches of Islam. The French new agency, AFP had reported that members of the Izala movement, backed by mainly Sunni Muslim Saudi Arabia, last month attacked the Islamic Movement in Nigeria (IMN), which is sympathetic to Shiite majority Iran. “IMN ceremonies in at least four northern cities to mark the annual Shiite day of mourning, Ashura, were targeted, with the worst riots in Kaduna, an Izala stronghold. At least two IMN supporters were killed,” AFP reported. The clashes, it said, indicate that the proxy Saudi-Iran conflict well-known in places such as Lebanon, Yemen and Syria — is now being played out in Nigeria. But a statement from the Saudi Embassy in Abuja said the kingdom faulted the “News that was stated in that report.”  Buhari with Wahhabi leaders of terror-linked Muslim World League, Al-Turki on left The embassy, according to the statement, expressed disappointment over “important” websites transmitting the false information, which it said were obtained from unreliable sources. It said the government of Saudi Arabia always stands with Nigeria in its efforts to root out terrorism out of the country. “The embassy would like to confirm that the kingdom of Saudi Arabia does not meddle into the internal affairs of countries. “The kingdom is keen about the peace and stability of Nigeria based on the distinguished fraternal relationship which exist between our two sisterly countries, and always standing side by side (in one row) to combat all forms and dimensions of terrorism,” the statement said. Read more at http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/news/news/saudi-arabia-condemns-reports-on-sunni-shia-clashes-in-nigeria/172206.html#7q6XxhyzqBYTwzDw.99 Source: http://newsrescue.com/saudi-arabia-condemns-reports-sunniteshiite-nigeria/#axzz4QYPhE7Pb CC: Seun Lalasticlala |
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