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Politics / Suspected Boko Haram Takfiri Terrorists Bomb Shia Mosques In Yobe,8 Killed by Rafidi: 9:16pm On Jul 30, 2014
Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:33AM GMT


Suspected Boko Haram militants have targeted two Shia mosques in northeast Nigeria with bomb attacks, killing at least six worshippers and injuring several others.

The two mosques in the town of Potiskum in Nigeria’s Yobe State were targeted by bombers late Tuesday. Eyewitnesses blamed the Takfiri Boko Haram terrorists for the deadly attacks.

The first blast rocked an open-air mosque belonging to Shia followers of Islam in the Dogo Tebo area of Potiskum at about 7:55 p.m. (1855 GMT), leaving four people dead, AFP reported.

The second explosion reportedly went off five minutes later at a mosque in the town’s Anguwar Bolawa area, in the compound of the chief imam, killing at least two worshippers.

Witness Balarabe Dahiru was cited in the report as saying that a bomber “we believe was from Boko Haram blew himself up at the open air mosque used by Shias which they name Saqafa shortly after saying their evening prayers there.”

“We took four dismembered bodies of the victims to the hospital along with five others who were injured,” said Dahiru, who was sitting outside his house when the blast took place.

Another local resident, identified as Awwal Maikusa, also offered a similar account, adding that a second blast occurred five minutes later.

“They are obviously the handiwork of Boko Haram,” Maikusa said of the two bombings.

The Takfiri militants have carried out many attacks on Christians and Muslims in northeastern Nigeria. Boko Haram militants also kidnapped over 200 schoolgirls in April.

Potiskum, Yobe state’s commercial hub, has been the scene of repeated deadly Boko Haram attacks in the past four years although they became fewer over the recent months.

MFB/HJL/HRB

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/07/30/373343/nigeria-shia-mosques-bombed-8-killed/

http://islamicmovement.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1219:funeral-of-bomb-blast-victims-in-potiskum&catid=41:frontpage

http://islamicmovement.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1219:funeral-of-bomb-blast-victims-in-potiskum&catid=41:frontpage
Religion / How Jews Treat Christians In Israel by Rafidi: 3:09pm On Jul 29, 2014
Politics / Re: Zakzaky Identifies Soldier Who Shot His 3 Sons by Rafidi: 11:37am On Jul 29, 2014
ichidodo: Very illogical statement from an understandably biased observer.These shiites were out to cause trouble,neutral eyewitness reports that the group blocked a very busy motorway for considerable amount of time,they were constituting a public nuisance and a security risk given that 82 people had just died less than 100 hours ago in the same state.To make matters worse,a soldier was almost dispossesed of his service rifle as well as some personnel were shot at..... Just like Hamas,Zakzaky should be blamed for putting his people in danger..

you are a very good student of your evil israeli mass murder teachers. kill innocent people with your own hands and then blame the dead victims or their leaders. and you dare talk of "logic"?

when has the price to pay for blocking a road come to killing 33 innocent souls? i was once along the Lagos-Ibadan expressway and i had to wait from morning till 11pm in the night to get to Ibadan because Redeem Church was conducting a crusade. no one was killed there.

for a millionth time, Quds Day processions have been held in Nigerian cities for over 30 years. why only this year when it coincided with the mass murder israel is carrying out in gaza the rally turned bloody? what of the news that the soldiers had been sent form Abuja and not Kaduna based? around the world too, even in the USA, Quds Day is observed with processions. no one dispossessed any soldier of any rifle and a procession annually conducted with children, women and elderly in it speaks volume that the procession was intended to be peaceful and no one carried a knife, not even a gun.

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Islam for Muslims / Iran Envoy, Top Nigerian Politicians Pay Condolence Visit To Sheikh Zakzaky by Rafidi: 6:57pm On Jul 28, 2014
K. Isa

The Iranian Ambassador to Nigeria, Mr Saeed Koozechi, has delivered a letter of condolence to Sheikh Zakzaky on behalf of Iranian government over the brutal killing of 33 members of the Islamic Movement in Nigeria, among them were 3 children of the Sheikh by Nigerian military forces.

Deliverng the letter to the sheikh during a condolence visit on Monday the 28th of July 2014, the ambassador expressed deep saddness over the incidence.

Receiving the letter, Sheikh Zakzaky expressed appreciation on the visit and the concern shown.

In another development top Nigerian politicians among whom were former Speaker Ghali Umar Na'abba and Senator Ahmad Mohammed Makarfi also paid seperate visits to commiserate with Sheikh Zakzaky at his Gyellesu residence same day. A legislator with the Kaduna State House of Assembly Muhammad Ali, Veteran Journalist Adamu Adamu and Ibrahim Gashash were also among the teeming sympathizers to Sheikh Zakzaky.







http://islamicmovement.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1204:iran-top-nigerian-politicians-pay-condolence-visit-to-sheikh-zakzaky&catid=41:frontpage
Islam for Muslims / Ahlul-Bayt Foundation In South Africa, Condemns The Killing Of Zaria Protesters by Rafidi: 10:35am On Jul 27, 2014
In a condolence message sent to the Islamic Movment in Nigeria on 26 of July, 2014, by the Ahlulbait Foundation of South Africa as signed by its National Coordinator, Syed Aftab Haider, the organisation condemns the brutal attack and killing of Muslims by Nigerian security forces.

The message reads as follows:

"Ahlul Bait Foundation of South Africa condemns in strongest terms the brutal attack and aggression by Nigerian Security Forces on peaceful demonstration of Al Quds Day in Zaria, Nigeria. In this attack 15 Muslim brothers and Sisters were martyred including three Sons of Shaikh Zakzaky, Leader of The Islamic Movement of Nigeria. On this sad occasion and tragic time, We offer our heartfelt condolences to Imam Mehdi(as), Leadership of Ummah, respected & bereaved Family of Sh Zakzaky and other Shohada and all the muslims and in particular followers of Ahlul bait(as) in Nigeria.

Indeed blood of these innocent martyrs shall not go in vain and bring us closer to Freedom of Palestine and Libration of Al Quds Ashareef.Ahlul Bait Foundation of South Africa condemns in strongest terms the brutal attack and aggression by Nigerian Security Forces on peaceful demonstration of Al Quds Day in Zaria, Nigeria. In this attack 15 Muslim brothers and Sisters were martyred including three Sons of Shaikh Zakzaky, Leader of The Islamic Movement of Nigeria. On this sad occasion and tragic time, We offer our heartfelt condolences to Imam Mehdi(as), Leadership of Ummah, respected & bereaved Family of Sh Zakzaky and other Shohada and all the muslims and in particular followers of Ahlul bait(as) in Nigeria.
Indeed blood of these innocent martyrs shall not go in vain and bring us closer to Freedom of Palestine and Libration of Al Quds Ashareef."

http://islamicmovement.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1195:ahlulbait-foundation-southafrica&catid=41:frontpage
Islam for Muslims / Re: Killing Of My 3 Sons Planned In Aso Rock —Nigeria’s Shiite Leader, El-zakzaky by Rafidi: 9:51am On Jul 27, 2014
Harun Elbinawi writes:

From the Press Conference of yesterday of Sheikh Ibrahim El-Zakzaky, he made mentioned that the soldiers that perpetrated the reckless murder of 33 innocent Nigerians that included his three sons, a nine-year-old girl & a four-year-old boy, were sent directly from Abuja that is the Presidency.

The Governor of Kaduna State, the Police
Commissioner of Kaduna State & the GOC of One
Mechanised Batallion were all unaware of the
activities of those Soldiers.


From this it is now clear to all those in doubt who is
behind the wantom killings & destructions in
Northern Nigeria in the name of Boko Haram.

Our deep heartfelt condolences to our Sheikh for his
losses & our lossess; & our condolences to the
families of all those who lost their lives, may god
give all the families the fortitude to bear these
monumental losses.

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Islam for Muslims / Killing Of My 3 Sons Planned In Aso Rock —Nigeria’s Shiite Leader, El-zakzaky by Rafidi: 9:50am On Jul 27, 2014
Killing of my 3 sons planned in Aso Rock —Nigeria’s Shiite Leader, Sheikh El-Zakzaky

•Says Jonathan has turned Nigeria into another Gaza

By Garba Ahmad, Kaduna on 27/07/2014

Leader of the Shiite group in Nigeria, Sheikh Ibraheem El-Zakzaky, has alleged that Friday’s killing of his sons during a procession in Zaria, Kaduna, North-West Nigeria, was planned by the Nigerian seat of power in Abuja.

El-Zakzaky, who poured out his feelings yesterday at a press conference at his residence in the Gyallesu area of Zaria, also accused the President Goodluck Jonathan administration of having turned Nigeria into another Gaza where the Israelis kill innocent people for no just cause.

His words: “It is unfortunate how the authorities have turned Nigeria into another Gaza where the Israelis kill innocent people for no just cause.

“The killing of my children and followers was intentionally planned from Abuja and executed by the soldiers.

“What concerns us at the moment is to perform the funeral rites of those that were killed.”

He called on his followers to remain calm “despite the fact that 35 of our followers have been killed in cold blood by soldiers including three of my children.”

He explained that “whatever action, if any, that would be taken in response to the gruesome killings perpetrated against innocent people by the soldiers will come much later after the funeral rites might have ended.”

Narrating the circumstances that led to the killings, Sheikh El-Zakzaky said: “The procession started in its usual way after the Friday prayers with people chanting slogans and singing songs condemning the illegal occupation and killing of innocent lives in Israel and ended peacefully.

“It was after the procession had finished that the soldiers came and started shooting sporadically on all that were either going to or from the demonstration.

“All of a sudden there was shooting. People coming to and going back from the procession were shot at. They continued the shooting until some time in the fall of the night. The shooters hid themselves in the Kubanni Sugarcane farms area.”

The Shiite strongman alleged that his son Mahmood Ibraheem “was shot at as a result of this but was denied medical attention by the blood-thirsty soldiers who blocked the way refusing them access to treatment until he bled to death. It was in the course of the shooting that they shot at my son.”

Source News Express

Posted 27/07/2014 04:20:55 AM

Killing of my 3 sons planned in Aso Rock —Nigeria’s Shiite Leader, Sheikh El-Zakzaky •Says Jonathan has turned Nigeria into another Gaza News News News - News Express Nigeria
Politics / Former VP, Atiku, Condemns The Zaria Killings Of Al-Quds Day Protesters by Rafidi: 9:42pm On Jul 26, 2014
"I'm deeply disturbed by the fatal shooting of protesters in Zaria yesterday. I have always advocated restraint in dealing with dissent, be it political or religious.

The incident needs to be thoroughly investigated by the authorities, in order to restore calm and public trust in law enforcement.

Our law enforcement agents must be careful to not alienate the people, who are partners in our search for peace and progress.

It is also important that religious leaders preach calm, and restrain their followers from activities which disturb the peace."

https://www.facebook.com/Atiku.org/posts/10152601996319640
Islam for Muslims / Former VP, Atiku, Condemns The Zaria Killings Of Al-Quds Day Protesters by Rafidi: 9:27pm On Jul 26, 2014
"I'm deeply disturbed by the fatal shooting of protesters in Zaria yesterday. I have always advocated restraint in dealing with dissent, be it political or religious.

The incident needs to be thoroughly investigated by the authorities, in order to restore calm and public trust in law enforcement.

Our law enforcement agents must be careful to not alienate the people, who are partners in our search for peace and progress.

It is also important that religious leaders preach calm, and restrain their followers from activities which disturb the peace."

https://www.facebook.com/Atiku.org/posts/10152601996319640
Islam for Muslims / Re: Sheikh El-zakzaky Speaks On Clash Between Shiites And Nigerian Troops by Rafidi: 7:43pm On Jul 26, 2014
jassie: The Islamic Movement of Nigeria a.k.a shiite muslims were very wrong to have led a protest at this sensitive period of insecurity in Northern Nigeria. Nobody will blame the Army because you don't step on a cobra's tail and not expect it's venom. The Sheik should just keep quiet and accept his fate.
We're not even sure the shiites are not boko haram members.

Islam for Muslims / Re: Son Of Sheikh Zakzaky, Others Martyred In Al-Quds Day Procession In Zaria by Rafidi: 10:00pm On Jul 25, 2014
Pro-Palestinian Protest Turns Bloody In Zaria, As Troops Kill 5 Shiite Muslims

Although details are still sketchy, a security source said a full investigation is underway to determine the cause of the clash.

Nigerian troops have reportedly killed at least 5 persons from a Muslim Shiite group in Zaria, Kaduna State of Shiites under the leadership of Sheik Ibraheem Zakzaky.

Sources told SaharaReporters that soldiers opened fire on members of the Islamic Movement of Nigeria during an annual procession called ‘Quds Day’ in solidarity with Palestinians under Isreali attacks in Gaza. The clash happened at PZ area on Sabon Gari Road. A convoy of soldiers from the Zaria Army deport reportedly ran out patience after waiting for 35 minutes for the procession to end. As they meant to leave, someone in the crowd reportedly opened fire as the protesters blocked the road.

Today's event, a source in Zaria told Saharareporters, holds the last Friday of every Ramadan fasting season. However, this year's procession was dedicated to the Palestinian people in Gaza.

Although details are still sketchy, a security source said a full investigation is underway to determine the cause of the clash. Mr. Zakzakky is an implacable foe of Islamist sect Boko Haram, a reason why today's clash between the sect and Nigerian troops remains a mystery.

As at the time of publishing this report, it was said that tension is still high in the town. And both military and Shiites are yet to react official regarding cause of the killings.

The development is coming barely two days after General Muhammadu Buhari (rtf) and and an Islamic cleric, Sheik Dahiru Bauchi escaped bombing attacks by suspected terrorists.

http://saharareporters.com/2014/07/25/pro-palestinian-protest-turns-bloody-zaria-troops-kill-5-shiite-muslims
Islam for Muslims / Son Of Sheikh Zakzaky, Others Martyred In Al-Quds Day Procession In Zaria by Rafidi: 9:56pm On Jul 25, 2014
We Condemn the Unwarranted Attack on Muslim Brothers In Zaria.

Friday 25-07-14 is a sad day, akin to a black Friday, in which some security agents of the federal republic of Nigeria, soldiers by the khaki they wore, gunned down, as at the time of writing this press release, 13 Innocent fasting Muslim brothers,
who were peacefully voicing their discontent with the unfortunate massacre of Palestinians by Israel. Zaria residents are a witness to the peaceful nature of the procession which took off from Sabon Gari Jumaat mosque up to its termination point at Kofar Doka, Zaria City.
Nobody was molested let alone his property. Infact the leader of the procession was delivering his speech, when some soldiers attacked the participants of the procession who were at PZ Junction in Zaria.In the ensuing melee, 10 people were killed by the soldiers, 40 were shot and now receiving treatment. And among the killed is a Muslim Sister together with her child on her back and the son of Shaikh Zakzaky, Mahmud Ibraheem Zakzaky. Also among those shot by the soldiers are two Muslim sisters. Not only that, the soldiers went away with 3 children of Sheikh Zakzaky, namely Ahmad, Hameed and Ali.
As of now their whereabouts is still unknown. We vehemently condemn this vicious atrocity committed by the soldiers on us. Why should we be attacked? Whom did we provoked during the peaceful procession? Who authorised this attack? Who participated in the attack among the soldiers? These are some of the questions the security operatives in the state need to answer us and the public.
Also we demand the unconditional release of Sheikh Zakzaky's children in soldiers custody and other Muslim brothers they might be holding. And should anything happen to them, we will hold the authorities responsible! This is not the first peaceful procession carried out by Muslim brothers in Zaria. In fact due to its peaceful nature residents in Zaria don't consider it as an unusual event that calls for caution. Another proof of the peaceful nature of the procession is the fact that it was staged today in Kaduna, Kano, Sokoto, Katsina, Potiskum, Jos, Bauchi, Gombe, and many other towns in Northern Nigeria and all ended peacefully. So why should the one in Zaria be an exception? The authorities should explain. The casualty figures might increase, God willing we will keep the public informed of the Transgressor in Nigeria.

Signed ABDULHAMID BELLO

Below is Sayyid Mahmud Zakzaky killed by the soldiers in Zaria, and some of the martyrs.



http://www.islamicmovement.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1184:attack-on-quds-day-zaria&catid=41:frontpage
Islam for Muslims / The Systematic Slaughter Of The Shia Muslims. But The World Looks Only To Israel by Rafidi: 2:58pm On Jul 24, 2014
The systematic slaughter of the Shiites. But the world looks only to Israel

posted by Shahram Ali

July 23, 2014

http://lubpak.com/archives/318177



“Genocide of the Palestinian people” and “indiscriminate aggression” by Israel. These are the keywords that have characterized the media and debates in recent days with protests in the streets, shares of any kind on social networks and calls for a boycott of Israeli products.

Now, without going into the merits of the issue, which would require an analysis in itself, is more than legitimate to ask why all this activism by certain Islamist circles in Europe and by the “champions of human rights” we have not seen in for the Shiites, systematically massacred by extremist Salafist groups; a clear case is just what the recent advance of the Islamic State in Iraq (ex-Isil) that caused hundreds of deaths and about 300,000 refugees, according to estimates of the High Commission for Human Rights of the UN.

The numbers of Shia Rights Watch speak for themselves: since the beginning of 2014 more than 4,000 were killed Shiites in Iraq, of which only 3794 (1600 in the first three months of the year), but the number is increasing due to the advance the Islamic State which has as its primary target the Shia population in Iraq. Still in 2014, more than 200 [massacred] in Pakistan and 380 cases were registered in Lebanon, Bahrain and Yemen.

on 11 June, the religious leader Sayed Reza Bahtani and family, originating in Samarra, were killed, along with another family, by terrorists of the Islamic State, while they were on the way to Najaf. On July 2, the jihadists have targeted for the third time the mausoleum of al-Askari, which houses the tomb of two Shi’ite imams, killing six and wounding faithful. On June 6, 54 Shias were massacred in an attack by the Islamic state on two mausoleums in Samarra; then the terrorists have occupied some of the mosques in the city. On June 4, the Islamic State has targeted the hospital in Hilla, killing 14 people and wounding sixty. The day before, a series of bombs exploded in Shiite commercial areas in Najaf, Iskanadriyah, Nasiriyah and the market of Mahmoudiyah. On May 29, a series of bombs placed in Sadr City and Mosul have caused some sixty dead, while four days before it 35 Shiite pilgrims killed on their way to the commemoration of Imam Mousa al-Kazim.

Iraq is a paradoxical case, where the Shiite majority has long been the victim of continuous attacks by the Salafist jihadists.

How to forget the first pogrom in the history of Egypt, which took place under the rule of the Muslim Brotherhood in 2013, when a group of Shia faithful gathered in a private home in Abu Musallim were lynched by a mob of extremist Salafis. In 2008, the spiritual leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, Yusuf al-Qaradawi, gave a warning against “imperialism Shia” that would undermine the security of the Sunnis in Egypt and other Islamic countries.

The Human Rights Watch denounced on its website the violent and systematic propaganda of the Muslim Brotherhood and Salafis against Shiite Egyptians, perpetrated for years.

In Bahrain, where the Sunni Al-Khalifa family of Qatari origin reigns , the Shia population (two-thirds of the country) is constantly a victim of persecution, with thousands of arrests and cases of torture documented by international organizations for human rights.

The Human Rights Commission of Pakistan has documented that only in 2013, more than a thousand Shiites were killed in hundreds of attacks, mainly in the cities of Quetta, Karachi, Kangu, Parachinar, Islamabad and Rawalpindi.

In March of 2013 a Shiite mosque in Anderlecht, Belgium, was the target of an extremist Salafist who entered the building armed with an ax and a can of gasoline with which he started a fire. In the attack, it costed his life the Imam Abdallah Dadou.

The issue of intolerance against Shi’ites unfortunately also applies to Italy, where social networks have reported many comments strongly anti-Shia, also published by some converts.

In short, why we have not seen any mobilization for the thousands of deaths among Shiites, systematically perpetrated by extremists over the years? Muslims who kill other Muslims, as it is not considered as such; thousands of deaths, but they are not worth talking about, it’s an uncomfortable subject. Pacifists are silent.

http://www.dirittodicritica.com/2014/07/21/sciiti-massacro-isil-iraq-bahrein-53326/#sthash.tIkINk6T.dpuf
Islam for Muslims / Re: Caliphate Declaration, Your Views by Rafidi: 4:04pm On Jul 20, 2014
BetaThings:
Please let us conduct this argument with great sense of responsibility
The West will take on Russia and China after dealing with Syria and Iran?
Missile strikes against both Iran and Syria can be contemplated
But China?
Or Russia?

i didnt say "missile strikes". i was hinting at instigating an internal conflict. the West doesnt venture into wars they are not sure of winning or they are not sure of the weakness of their opponents. so since China and Russia are strong, they will instigate civil wars. both russia and china are vulnerable to civil wars. china has the muslim minority, taiwan and tibet and its dalai lama. russia has opponents of putin, chechnya and others. they can as well ask putin to resign and aim at installing a western puppet as we witnessed in syria.


Please we are not talking video game here
Just like Russia does divide and rule.
Shia ally with anyone no matter how despicable- America in Afghanistan and Iraq;
Possibly Israel in Syria
Hindus in India. We saw that in the last election
No principles, Just do anything to separate yourself from Sunnis (but try to deceive by talking about Wahhabis)
Shia’s option of ALLYING with their REAL Partners – The Zionists

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRmb50WQzCU&index=67&list=UU2Zh30AueGr3ZgcsZYMMuXw
Now the video show the
INSINCERITY OF SHIAs IN PALESTINE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8JCw2OQmuE&list=UU2Zh30AueGr3ZgcsZYMMuXw

the problem is you are completely blind. you are blinded by sectarian hatred. i honestly didnt want to reply to your post, but to fulfill alll righteousness and assuming you are misinformed i decided to reply. however, i wont reply further with such gibberish.

the Sunnis are being made to kill the Shias from syria to lebanon to iraq to afghanistan to pakistan. why? because the shia have stood with the palestinian cause while sunni leaders have allied with israel. yet, you brought a video to judge the intentions of the shia. do you know that sunnis are killing shias today because you are instigated to the see the shia and not the zionist jews as enemies? if the shia keep supporting the cause of your sunni brothers in palestine and all you could do is kill the shias and try to take their weapons, then of course they will ally with the jews. you will then see that the jews are not pushing you into sectarian violence because they like you. you will realize that they are not pushing you to overthrow assad because they care for syrians, but rather, because they want to get rid of the assad regime which poses a threat with its support for armed resistance movements in palestine and lebanon. in lebanon, despite the fact that hezbollah has supported the palestinian cause, hamas quickly jumped to fight hezbollah in syria. the ones calling for the disarming of hezbollah in lebanon are sunnis. and look at what the zionist are capable of doing and they are presently doing to gaza as i type. if the shia are strong and they are giving you support, and yet you are foolish to fall into the trap of the smarter jews, then you will find out that the shias will not go into extinction thanks to your foolishness. you will discover the smartness of your enemy we are helping you against when you wake up from your slumber. today if the shia powers agree to recognize israel and drop their animosity, you will see that the shia will rule bahrain, the iraqi shia will live in peace, and the same in other places like syria, lebanon and iran.

and what is even heartbreaking with your words is you are judging the shia with words and intentions inspite the fact that it is the shia who have kept the palestinian cause alive. your leaders are allying with the jews. qatar, saudi, egypt, the syrian opposition etc. why is it a curse for the shia to do what your own leaders HAVE ALREADY DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I am not. As soon you mention Wahhabi, the torrent of hateful words, indignant justification of atrocities ensue
See what you have done below to Srebrenica after designating Tbaba a Wahhabi
So should anyone in my opinion
But China is not emboldening North Korea?
And they are not even comparable.
Taiwan has been independent since the 50s and China has been living with that as part of the fallout of WWII
America has even changed its policy towards Taiwan during the period to favour China
Yet in your own view, it is is emboldening a country that has even toned down independent stance
What misrepresentation of facts!

taiwan was a part of china. china wants it back.

the korean peninsula was invaded by the US. till today, the US has a military presence in south korea. why do you see only one side of the story?


But your Russia is systematically carving up Ukraine now

it isnt my russia. it is time you wake and see that those sunni leaders in the middle east you are cheering for are nothing serious but rogues to their own people and countries.


and you claim that you dislike civil war
Yet a Shia Ayatollah was caught in youtube video pushing for a civil war in Bahrain

there is nothing to catch on youtube. the Shia of bahrain are oppressed and killed by an invading saudi force and a bahraini police force that is made up of sunni mercenaries from pakistan and yemen and elsewhere. they have a right to liberate their country. bahrain is under occupation. yet still, over three years and the bahrain revolution has been relatively peaceful except for mostly the teenagers that the mercenary police and saudi forces massacre and split their skulls open.


Wahhabi thugs, Whhabi thugs again! The ubiquitous bogeyman
Used by American when they invaded Grenada, Panama, Vietnam, Mexico and
Used by Russia when they invaded Afghanistan
Used by England to fight the Americans who wanted independence
We should beware of the Wahhabis
But we know that Iran is never used
Even if they carried out the bombing as far afield as Argentina

you just want to score points and spread propaganda. your ummah will die if sunnis continue the way you presently think. look at how you poison arguments by throwing in and joining so many issues and bringing in so many red herrings. you cannot tackle one issue without pulling another. worst, you are restating the accusations that iran carried out a bombing in argentina. every time there are failed operations and inside jobs to blame it on iran. they did it too in burgas, bulgaria;thailand bombing;india. etc. all in a bid for israel that assassinates iranian nuclear scientists inside iran to demonize iran. and that bombing in argentina was targeting a jewish center which iran denied responsibility of.


The irony is that the thugs you associate with Sunni governments don't listen to him
Al Qaeda is working to dethrone the Saudi government

in saudi, alqaeda are the bad guys, outside saudi, the saudi dont mind if they are targeting the shia or syrian regime. double standards.


Wahhabis again! They must have the power to just appear anywhere
I have given you the story of Chechnya who were displaced from the mountain where they used to live
And Russia is mixing them with indigenous Russians to ensure that there are always fifth columnists in Chechnya so that
Russia can always argue that the type of consensus in Czechoslovakia does not exist in Chechnya
and you are doing that now - with your conscience suppressed - by rewriting history
As for Wahhabis any muslims fighting for their rights are Wahhabis as long as they are not Shias
Your standard for the truth is converging with that of Christians

except if you have forgotten that palestinians are not shias in their overwhelming majority, and yet still shias support palestinians. oh wait! you find ways to belittle diminish or deny the shia support for the palestinians. please wake up!


BTW – By the grace of Allah, Palestnian lands will be returned to them and the greedy, ravenous occupier will be defeated. Did Portugal not occupy Brazil? How do the two stand today?
What is word play? If I were around in 1967 I would have supported Biafra
What is my business when anyone is convinced that he/she is oppressed
I have no interest in the misfortune or sadness of anyone
So if Igbos in the majority want out, I am for letting them loose
I have no issue with Nigerian splitting into 36 nations if that would make everyone happy
How does anybody's unhappiness increase my good deeds with Allah or my chances of making Jannah
Please this matter is based on clear principles – happiness of the people and peace
Really? Shias who are in the majority are being attacked by the Sunni minority and are folding their arms
Shia who murder based on Emo dressing
http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/iraqi-teenagers-stoned-death-emo-haircuts?page=10
Who murder prostitutes in jungle justice
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28281102
Please tell the truth even once
Please show me your condemnation of Nur Al Maliki who has succeeded in dividing Iraq along sectarian lines
Here are Shias

your hatred is too deep.

so there are no mobs in Nigeria who lynch homosexuals? there are no mobs in egypt who lynch shias? there are no mobs anywhere? so you hold an entire population responsible for what a mob committed against emos? how can you so conveniently turn a blind eye to the bomb attacks on shias in iraq since 2003. do you condemn those attacks or not? it is so obvious you support boko haram targeting christians if you support sunni terrorists targeting shia civilians in iraq and pakistan.

have you forgotten this threads:

"Genocide Of Shia Muslims In Pakistan"
https://www.nairaland.com/1120418/genocide-shia-muslims-pakistan

"A Timeline Of Sectarian Terrorism Against Shia Muslims"
https://www.nairaland.com/961495/timeline-sectarian-terrorism-against-shia

do you condemn those suicide and car bomb attacks by sunni terrorists targeting shia civilains randomly?


The truth is that Islam forbid the burning of corpses. I have not seen condemnation of the burning of corpses here. I have not put up the fuil link because it is gory
youtube.com/watch?v=5HaGBdrT24M
Completely not true?

sunni terrorists are combatants. when you pick up a gun to fight, you will be treated as a combatant and not a civilian walking the maketplace that sunni terrorists blow up.

a terrorist doesnt deserve to be buried.


For a group that claims to support the truth, this is clear evidence that you don’t even know the truth. This is the thread and the first post by a Shia. It showed no feeling for the innocent muslims
How does Tbaba reminding us of what was done to Muslims amount to Bid’ah. To remind that the Kuffar hate us is to give a headsup. Nobody asked for a holiday, a procession or a gathering
https://www.nairaland.com/1221369/srebrenica-massacre

remember an event in bosnia is cool bid'ah, but remember an event in karbala is "bad bid'ah". and they dont gather in sebrenica annually? what is wrong with processions?


Hahaha. Wahhabi/salafist in disguise!
Shia definitions:
Sunnis = Bakris=Omaris=Wahhabis=Nasibis
We know that as soon as you oppose Shias, they quickly reach into their quiver and pull out a name and append it. The commonest is Wahhabi. I have been called that and also a Nasibi
I am yet to be called a Bakri or a Omari, a laughable name given that we don’t say “Ya Abu Bakr” or “Ya Umar”
how can you call war criminals and once-upon-a-time-idolaters "Ya Umar"? arent you ashamed? men who betrayed the Prophet (s) during and after his death. if you have any shame in you you would be crying for being deceived for centuries.


Fair? I believe that the Prophet (SAW) did not establish the practice of commemorating the dead. He (SAW) did not hold any event to remember Summaya (RA) or Hamza (RA) who were killed violently. I cannot see what is unfair if everyone is treated the same way – no commemoration of the dead

yes, only the dead in sebrenica should be commemorated.

“When Holy Prophet (s) reached Madina, he saw that cries could be heard from most of the houses of Ansaar (the helpers) but not from Hamza’s house. Holy Prophet (s) said that wasn’t there anyone to cry over Hamza, the helpers(Ansaar) asked their females to mourn over Hamza first and later on they may go and cry over their own martyrs, the women went to Hamza’s house in the evening and kept crying till midnight, When Holy Prophet(s) woke up and asked about it, he was told the whole thing, Holy Prophet(s) blessed them by saying” May Allah be pleased with you and your children.” Tarikh Kamil, Volume 2 page 64

Mu`adh ibn Jabal and Bilal also came to the grave of the Prophet and sat weeping, and the latter rubbed his face against it.
Ibn Majah 2:1320
Source:
Encyclopedia of Islamic Doctrine – (Cached)

Al-Dhahabi, who is beloved and one of most respected Alim of Salafies, he also confirm how Sahaba used to visit the graves of Rasool Allah (saw):

Imam al-Nawawi also instructed for seeking the barakah from grave of Rasool Allah (saw)

It is related in Al-Majmu’, vol. 8 p. 274; Fayd al-Qadir, vol. 2 p. 134; I’anah al-Talibiyyin, p. 315:

The pilgrim should face the shrine of the Messenger of Allah (s), make him a means (tawassul) towards reaching God and seek his wasilah as intercession (shafa’at), in the same manner as the Bedouin who visited the Prophet’s shrine and standing beside it said: ‘Peace unto you O Messenger of Allah, I have heard Allah has said:

…Had they, when they had wronged themselves, come to you and asked Allah’s forgiveness and the Apostle had asked forgiveness for them, they would certainly have found Allah Most-Propitious, Most-Merciful. (Holy Qur’an 4: 64). “Therefore, I have come to you for forgiveness of my sins and seeking your intercession with Allah.”


Now as for posting here – a lot of people don’t know that history. Just like it is perfectly normal to tell us stories about early Muslims, I think we should know what is happening now
What is the difference between talking about the story of Palestine and the injustice that has been going on since 1948 and telling the story of massacre of Muslims in the 90s and now?
If anyone is calling for a holiday, processions etc then that would be real mourning
What you should consider is this, will Tbaba commemorate the death of his immediate relatives? If he does not believe that members of his family should be mourned in that manner but he writes about Srebrenica, I would not consider that unfair His writing would be telling a story and reminding us as I believe he would not love the Srebrenica victims more than his family

do Shias who commemorate the tragedy of Karbala do the same for their family members? so both recalling sebrenica and recalling Karbala are the same. you may argue the manner or remembering, but the essence remain the same.


Truth v Muslims
So you support atheists in Russia because the truth is with them?
Anyway contrary to your sophistry you have never criticized Shias before
And I take it that you are saying that the truth is always with the Shias

of course the truth is ALWAYS with Shias. if you dont like it, die! we are followers of Muhammad (s), Ali (as), Hassan (as) and Hussain (as).


So it is always the case that you support atheists/Christians or evil doers against muslims so long as it is in the interest of Shias to do so. That is the reality

if you cannot realize that your brothers either deliberately or stupidly have given Islam a bad image, then sorry. muslims are not right every time they pick up a weapon to fight.


Quite interesting.
Anyway I have had cause to argue in favour of Iran in the past and one of you guys (shias) referred non-muslims to it
But whenever I criticize Iran, I am a bad person

you are not a bad person for criticizing iran. iran isnt ruled by one of the twelve infallible imams of the Ahlul-Bayt (as). iran has its flaws. but when you want to exploit those flaws for certain motives, then your motive is questioned. and often times you question iran on sectarian motive, at least, judging from this forum. you repeat the lies wahhabi sites out there,possibly instigated by pro-zionist intelliegence bodies,spread.e.g. the "no mosque in tehran" myth.


But I have never seen you point out the good in Sunnis. NEVER!

i dont need to massage your ego. when i have need to i will in the right place and time.


The irony is that when a negative story about Shias appear, non-muslims abuse Islam and we gather to defend Islam but when something negative from sunnis come up, you join non-muslims and start talking about Wahhabi

please bring one negative story on nairaland about iran that doesnt expose how silly the story is, or how ill-intended the mods on nairaland are towards iran in particular. i have never come across a positive story on the front page about iran. the mods tend to push up negative story, often times concocted, inaccurate or propaganda, as if they are paid to do it or they have an interest. their aim is to tarnish the image of islam being that iran is called "an islamic republic". about the wahhabis, or whom you want to classify as mainstream sunnis, often times out problem with them has to do with violence and takfirism against fellow muslims. we stand by the palestinians because their cause is just even if they be sunnis or shintos.


Yet you always support the truth
Tomfoolery and fibbing sir
Nobody is blackmailing you
“nonsense?”
You supported the first ever suicide bombing in the muslim world by Hezbollah in Beirut

i support? do i have to? if the palestinians send suicide bombers against SOLDIERS occupying their land, it isnt the same as sending suicide bombers to churches, mosques and marketplaces. fighting or resisting occupation of one's land is a fundamental human right. the method/means is irrelevant in my view. it is the cause that is judged. you dont blow up civilians and equate that with blowing up a military base of an invading army. they are not the same thing.


Their terror attack in Argentina by Hezbollah was also ok
Did you tell the truth and on the “Emo” killings
Did you tell the truth when Sunnis saved Shias who were drowning in the Aimmah bridge incident
Even sunnis died in the process of trying to save Shias
http://wwrn.org/articles/18563/?&place=iraq&section=islam
Anyway I am reminded of this shia double-faced taqqiya
And all over NL we are told that taqiyya is done by shias to save their lives

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH3rRSy_PA8

the problem with you is you want to use ignorant mobs to paint the image of Shias. and you want to use the good acts of Sunnis, like the ones you mentioned above, to justify the extremists among the sunnis who are aligned to the wahhabi/salafi ideology. generalizations dont work with me. sunnis in iraq have stood up against alqaeda and isis and they have been killed alongside shias and christians. but if you listen to qatari owned aljazeera they will make alqaeda and isis "sunni rebels" fighting for "sunni rights" against maliki's "oppression".
Islam for Muslims / Re: Caliphate Declaration, Your Views by Rafidi: 7:11pm On Jul 19, 2014
Iran gave Hamas an estimated £13-15 million a month after its victory in the 2006 Palestinian legislative elections - enough to cover its governing budget, said Dr Adnan Abu Amer, assistant professor of political science at Gaza City's Ummah University.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/palestinianauthority/10091629/Iran-cuts-Hamas-funding-over-Syria.html

Relations during the Intifada[edit]

After the eruption of the second Palestinian intifada, in September 2000 after the collapse of Middle East peace talks at Camp David, Arafat released imprisoned Hamas and Islamic Jihad militants, a decision that restored the relations between Iran and the Palestinian National Authority. The renewed support became evident when Israeli commandos captured the Karine A in 2002, a ship carrying 50 tons of advanced weaponry from Iran to Gaza.[2]

Support for Hamas[edit]

Hamas is a militant and political organization currently in power in the Gaza Strip. According to Mahmoud Abbas, President of the Palestinian National Authority, "Hamas is funded by Iran. It claims it is financed by donations, but the donations are nothing like what it receives from Iran.[3][4] Iran also supplies Hamas with military weaponry.[5] Technologies provided include Fajr-5, M-75, and M-302 rockets, as well as drones.[6]

Aid to Hamas increased after Arafat’s death in 2004 and Israel’s withdrawal from Gaza in 2005. Following the Hamas victory in the 2006 Palestinian elections, foreign aid dried up, leading Tehran to send significant financial aid to support the nearly bankrupt, Hamas led Palestinian National Authority.[2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Palestine_relations#Support_for_Hamas
Islam for Muslims / Re: Caliphate Declaration, Your Views by Rafidi: 7:09pm On Jul 19, 2014
BetaThings:
Again for the second time,
I challenge you to please IN THE NAME OF ALLAH tell us how much each of the TWO countries (Saudi Arabia - Sunni country - And Iran - Shia country)) spend to support Palestinians

Saudi Arabia is one of the largest providers of aid to the Palestinian people.[7] Since 2002, Saudi Arabia has given more than $480 million in monetary support to the Palestinian Authority, and has supported Palestinian refugees by contributing to the UN Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA). Through the Arab League it has provided more than $250 million for the Palestinians, and pledged $500 million in assistance over the next three years at the Donors Conference in Dec 2007.[4] Unlike aid from other nations, Saudi Arabian aid to Palestinians was not disrupted by the election of Hamas.[7]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_foreign_assistance#Middle_East
Islam for Muslims / Re: Caliphate Declaration, Your Views by Rafidi: 4:32pm On Jul 17, 2014
BetaThings:
It will be useful to
stick to facts
Let us deal with the digression first
You don't believe in civil wars; but sadly, your Russian friend avidly does. Otherwise they would not have taken over Crimea, and now trying to take over Eastern Ukraine, and before then South Ossetia and Abkhazia
Russia is also promoting the breakaway of Transnistria in Moldova
I am not sure you ever told anyone to confront Russia for causing civil wars in other countries. You never even voiced disapproval of the persistent clvil wars that Russia instigates

i am not defending Russia. and Russia has its advantages and disadvantages. and do you know that Iran, the only country on earth with an Islamic republic/state run by Shias, has up to this moment not recognized the breakaway of Crimea to join Russia? they believe Ukraine should remain united, one, peaceful and strong country. in my view, the West is even more to blame in Ukraine. they wanted to punish Russia for their failure in Syria. and the truth is if they succeed in either Syria or Ukraine, not only would it be Iran's turn next, but also Russia's and China's as well. the West are known for their divide and rule policy. so i think as much as the Russians are not saints, the West are equally,if not more, to blame for instigating Russia's neighbors to create unrest in that part of the world. you on the other hand want to demonize Russia simply because often times the Shia powers find it more convenient to ally with the Russians than the Americans/Israelis.


So the all the Chechens are Wahhabis? Very convenient. I know that the Wahhabis are the worst specimen that Allah has created. Is that not so
All we need to do is label anyone we dislike Wahhabi and any injustice done against them will be lawful

you are assuming and putting words into my mouth.


I am also quite sure that the Taiwanese are Whhabis just like the Biafrans
The Czech and Slovaks who agreed to separate are Wahabis
It is always difficult to understand why a group invoking the name of religion can be so comfortable with oppression
Anyway let me tell you the error of your analysis

the Czechs and Slovaks in a civilized manner chose to divorce. its their choice and was conveniently done. Taiwan is to this moment emboldened by the US.

but when you have a major power or regional players instigating unrest for hidden agendas in a country-like Syria-then its the Wahhabis thugs who are always used to do the dirty job.


Chechens dislike Russia
Palestinians dislike Israel
Hamas believe in armed confrontation = Shias say they are freedom fighter and
ALL Palestine should be supported
Chechen separatists believe in armed struggle = Shias say they are terrorists and ALL Chechens are Wahhabis
See the history of the people you call Wahhabis
How some people sleep at night is a mystery!
This is from wikipedia

Palestinians are displaced, killed and their land taken by foreigners from thousands of miles away. that is not the case in chechnya. majority of chechnyans may not be wahhabis, but the wahhabis are the ones fighting in chechnya. there are pro-russia chechnyans just as there are pro-assad syrians, who are in majority, but yet, assad must go! it is easy to play the victim and cry.


Do I support Biafra?
Muslims are supposed to fight oppression
Why would I not support Biafra if they are oppressed

dont play with words. "if they are oppressed"? are you to decide for them when and if they are oppressed? they think they are. do you support them?


Nobody has the right to oppress another. Allah forbids that
There is enough on earth to go round. People are just selfish
If you run a very good system, people will embrace you and want to be part of you
There is no compulsion in religion, Why should there be in nationality?
Read the story of Aral Sea. It is a geographical disaster - the result of the policy of Russia
The people whose environment and means of livelihood are destroyed would be justified in bailing out of Russia
Would they not?
Chechen mercenaries are mercenaries
Just like Iranian mercenaries will be mercenaries.
Or are all Iranians now illegal migrants given that two Iranians with forged documents in that Malaysian plan?
Are we going to criminalise every Chechen because of that?

do you condemn the attacks on Shia civilians in Iraq and their mosques, holy places, marketplaces, towns, and cities since 2003?


My question is this
When somebody spoke about the massacre of Muslims in Srebrenica here on NL, Shias asked him to shut up
What was the offence of the Muslims massacred in Srebrenica that we cannot talk about it
But If I talk about the toppling of Musseqique of Iran, I am a good man
My point - Shias are moved by politics - not Islamic brotherhood
You are the allies of people who are systematically trying to erase the identity of the Chechens
and you justify with lies
in Ramadan

but what you mentioned or are claiming in the above is completely not true. the Shia in that thread did not oppose commemorating or marking or remembering the massacre of Sebrenica. in fact the Shia do accept the Bosnian Muslims, as the burmese muslims, were oppressed.

a wahhabi/salafist in disguised (i.e. tbaba) opened a thread to remind us of the sebrenica massacre. this same person would oppose marking the tragedy that occurred in Karbala to the grandson of our Prophet (s) and his family. in saudi arabia, the "national day" is marked and its an holiday, and yet they dont call that bid'ah. but commemorate the birthday of the Prophet (s) and you will be arrested. is that fair in your view?


And you ally with communists
May Allah give us guidance - but you need to rethink your ideas
I will not use google to waste my time
If Shias support muslims elsewhere, let us know

that is the problem. we Shias are not taught to support Muslims everywhere. we are taught to support the truth everywhere. there is a popular and meaningful statement of Imam Ali (as) to this regards. He (as) said: "know the truth and you will know its followers". in other words truth is not identifed with people, but people are identified with the truth. Muslims cant embark on nonsense and because they are Muslims i am blackmailed to support them or else i become "an enemy of the Ummah". where is the lessons of the Holy Quran that we should be just even against our own selves and our fathers? we need the virtues the Quran presents us and not emotions and hardhearted sentiments in the name of Islam.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Caliphate Declaration, Your Views by Rafidi: 1:02pm On Jul 16, 2014
BetaThings:
Please tell me show much Iran spends in Palestine and how much does Saudi Arabia spends in the same place
They are miles part
If A spends more than B and is still accused of abandoning the recipient of the financial support, then it is clear that we are not dealing with the truth and sincerity
But propaganda
I have always asked why just Palestine, What do the Shias do to support oppressed Muslims in Myamar, Sri Lanka and China
And why are Shias so close to Russia, a country that has always vowed to be cruel to Muslims in Chenchya
At least Russia is not a Muslim country - you don't have to choose sides
I only see propaganda because people don't follow international news closely
Again, I challenge you to please IN THE NAME OF ALLAH tell us how much each of the TWO countries (Saudi Arabia - Sunni country - And Iran - Shia country)) spend to support Palestinians

two points you raised there. first, comparing saudi and iranian aid to the palestinians. the western countries which are not Islamic donate more than what muslim countries donate to the palestinians. they send blankets, tents, and food. the iranians send both cash and weapons. raw cash, and not bags of rice, flour or wheat (or whatever is the staple food for palestinians). your saudi MAY be sending dates and other food stuffs. i really dont have figures to give you. what the palestinians need is to free their land and stop being beggars for food. the iranians provide the much needed means for them to resist occupation with the hope of freeing their land. otherwise, israel will continue building settlements and expelling more palestinians from their land. the palestinian cause is kept alive through the palestinians being able to maintain their ground and keep their cause alive for freedom. at a point when hamas won the election and took contorl of gaza, the west and its puppets like saudi cut of aid to hamas controlled gaza. the iranian aid wasnt cut off.

on why the Shia powers are close to Russia. the Shia dont believe in civil wars or dividing nations or tearing them apart and then mislabel the destruction as "jihad". the russian-chechnyan conflict is a civil war. those so called "jihadists" (backed by the same people backing the terrorists in syria) do not represent the chechnyan people. they are fighting their so called "jihad" just as boko haram also imagine the destruction it is carrying out is "jihad". the russians and chechyans are living side by side and indigenes of their lands. the case of chechnya isnt the same as that of palestine. the israelis were europeans who left their countries after world war 2 to settle in palestine and evict others. the chechnya is autonomous and russian ruled. they are an ethnicity in russia. if you want to condemn the russian administration, then you'd have to condemn Umar for taking over persia and palestine and having the arabians administer their rule over those lands. the main difference between israel and russia/umar is the people are living on their land and are not told to leave or replaced by foreigners as the case with the israeli invasion and occupation of palestine. it is not every time an ethnicity wants self rule that you take up arms to fight the central government, plunder lives and property and then in the name of Islam you want to blackmail me into supporting salafist terror groups. do you support biafra? i am sure you will type pages to oppose biafra. by the way, what are chechnyan (salafi/wahhabi mercenaries/terrorists) doing fighting in syria and iraq? are they fighting against russia? or they are fighting against other muslims for sectarian and terror aims? as for places like burma, the Shia are in full support of any oppressed people, whether muslim or even non-muslim. you should use google to answer most of these questions you ask. search for the positions of Shia personalities on the genocide in burma.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Caliphate Declaration, Your Views by Rafidi: 4:18pm On Jul 13, 2014
Sunni led countries have either shied away from their responsibility towards the Palestinians, or have joined the American-Israeli bandwagon to submit to Zionist schemes. you have abandoned Imam Hussain (as) and today you have abandoned the people of Gaza and Palestine. they haven't only abandoned, they behave as if it doesn't even concern them!!! Imam Hussain (as) cried and said: is there any helper to help us? today the people of Gaza are crying: is there any helper to help us? and only the Shia of Muhammad, Ali and Hussain (as) have answered their calls while Sunni powers are complicit in flaming sectarian flames and giving support to terrorist groups targeting the Shia civilians in Iraq and fighting Assad in Syria. you guys should wake up!!! the ummah is in trouble and non-Muslim powers are happy we are killing ourselves, and also, they are happy with those terrorist groups that commit havoc and kill innocent civilians, who are different from them in beliefs, and then, they attribute their act to Islam.

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Islam for Muslims / Re: Egyptian Gov't Declares Muslim Brotherhood "Terrorist Group" by Rafidi: 12:08am On Dec 28, 2013
opeyemi@2013:
hahaha so you can still waste your precious time to respond to me. Dont tell me you dont use your takiya to make false assertion that majority of syrians are supporting criminal assad. Criminal assad government is not legitimate government, since there is never any free and fair election since assad family has been suppressively ruling over syrians. Criminal assad took the government of brutal oppression from his father, who also massacred thousands of syrians during his time. Am begining to hate these shias more they always rejoice for the misfortune of sunnis. I listening to a documentary program on bbc radio, which talked about the persecution of minority shias in south east asia especially indonesia and malysia. I had sympathy for them when i listened to the program but later come to the fact that they dont deserve our sympathy because shia hate us(sunni) to death, they are hypocrite and always rejoice for the misfortune of sunnis example of it, is what is going on in syria, egypt and iraq.

a Sunni army general in egypt made a coup against a salafist brotherhood president,and you are here hating on the Shia.egyptian sunnis got tired of a salafist led government in less than a year of electing morsi.dont lump sunnis into one basket and claim you are victims of Shia "hatred".you are wrong.

"A Timeline Of Sectarian Terrorism Against Shia Muslims"
https://www.nairaland.com/961495/timeline-sectarian-terrorism-against-shia
Islam for Muslims / Re: A Timeline Of Sectarian Terrorism Against Shia Muslims by Rafidi: 5:35pm On Nov 23, 2013
Twin bombings hit Shiite mosque in northern Iraq


Published time: November 23, 2013 16:04

The twin bombing, a vehicle laden with explosives followed by a suicide attacker in Iraq’s troubled northern town of Tuz Khurmatu killed at least nine people.

A further 54 people were wounded at the Shia mosque, police and medical sources said according to Reuters.

Tuz Khurmatu is located 170 km north of Baghdad in an area which both the Baghdad central government and the Iraqi Kurdistan autonomous region claim as theirs.

Thousands die every year in Iraq due to civil violence, with over seven thousand killed already in 2013, which has been the deadliest year since 2008 when Iraq was under American occupation.

The frequency of the ethnic violence and bloodshed has raised fears that Iraq is slipping towards all out civil war, which it experienced in 2007-2008, when tens of thousands died even while US troops were handling the majority of the security.

Insurgents have also benefited from the civil war in Syria, which has seen violence spill over into neighboring Iraq.

http://rt.com/news/iraq-bombing-shiite-mosque-204/
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Is Ashura And What Led To The Tragedy Of Karbala? by Rafidi: 10:03am On Nov 17, 2013
Islam for Muslims / Re: Shia Ayatollah Issues Fatwa Permitting The Drinking Of Water During FASTING by Rafidi: 10:28pm On Nov 14, 2013
BetaThings:

Why is it so difficult for you guys to actually believe that no sane person would be happy at the killing of Hussain (RA) and his family. Novels that have tragic endings move me. I get very very angry at the unjustified killing of Nigerians by police (whether it is Apo 6 or the Apo near numerous). Why should I not be sad at the killing of muslims? And grandchildren of the Prophet (SAW) at that. One could imagine the courage required to stand up by Hussain (RA) and his family when surrounded by their killers. We can imagine the pain, the mental anguish etc
Our difference is the way you mourn, not why you mourn. When Summayah was killed in a fit of anger for clinging to tahweed in defiance of a despot, the Prophet (SAW) did not wail or beat himself. When Hamza (RA) was killed and multilated, the Prophet (SAW) did not mourn the way you do. And how long did mourn for?

So I cannot just accept that mode of mourning.

ok,to summarize what you've just said:

"you accept the killing of the children of the Messenger of God is sad.but you cannot mark Ashura as a sad day or a day of grief as the Shia openly do/express,so that it doesn't appear you have endorsed the Shia who stand up for the Ahlul-Bayt (as).you don't want to surrender".

and how can this be described? you are blinded with ignorance mixed with extreme hatred and fanaticism.

whether you choose to beat yourself in grief (and I am sure references have already been stated that hitting oneself as expression of grief is sunnah),or you read the sirah of Imam Hussain (as) or you cry (which is also sunnah),or you do any act of good in honor of the Prophet's (s) blood that was spilled in Karbala,it makes no difference.let us all agree that Imam Hussain (as) deserve to be honored,remembered and his memory revived,and the sadness his killing stands for which we both agree on should be expressed.

both Sumayyah and Hamzah (as) were killed by kuffar.the kuffar are not trying to hide that Hamzah (as) was killed by the order of Hind (yazeed's grandmother) and his liver was eaten by her, like people who call themselves muslims try their best to make sure the tragedy of Karbala is forgotten and no one gets to know how the family of the Prophet (s) were literally beheaded in Karbala by so called "muslims".Hamzah (as) or Summaya (ra) were killed not by so called "muslims" acting on the order of the so called "caliph of the muslims",as Imam Hussain (as) and his household members were killed by Yazeed and his army.we do not let go or forget this incident because only remembering what happened in Karbala is enough to let every reasonable muslim with a heart to see where truth lies.you have one side who commemorates Imam Hussain (as) and believes in Imamate,and you have the other side which holds on to the caliphate of oppressors among whom was yazeed.truth and falsehood do not mix.if not for the Shia,tell me which Sunni group from Jakarta to Casablanca to Djibouti to Sarajevo that remembers who Imam Hussain (as) was and what he stood for? alas! many sunnis do not even know Imam Hussain (as) was the grandson of Prophet Muhammad (s),and yes you (want us to believe you) "love" the Ahlul-Bayt (as).ok,Allah (swt) will surely be the Judge on Qiyamah.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Shia Ayatollah Issues Fatwa Permitting The Drinking Of Water During FASTING by Rafidi: 8:40pm On Nov 14, 2013
BetaThings:

Level? I have made it clear that I am not interested in any competitive game. I don't gloat etc


I am not interested in name calling. I just want to make jannah and by Allah, I would be a very very happy person if as many people as I can reach can make it. I can NEVER rejoice that anybody is going to hell. That will not benefit me in the least

Allah (swt) has made jannah forbidden to the killers/enemies of the Ahlul-Bayt (as), and their followers.
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Is Ashura And What Led To The Tragedy Of Karbala? by Rafidi: 9:25am On Nov 14, 2013
Assalamu alayka Ya Aba Abdillahil Hussain (as). cry
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Is Ashura And What Led To The Tragedy Of Karbala? by Rafidi: 9:59pm On Nov 11, 2013
"OUR CRY ON ASHURA SCARES THE OPPRESSORS"-Ayatollah Khomeini

Islam for Muslims / Re: Shia Ayatollah Issues Fatwa Permitting The Drinking Of Water During FASTING by Rafidi: 9:40pm On Nov 11, 2013
Al-Baqir:


Ya akhi,
Honestly we don't need to be like this guys with the ideology of WIN or LOSE dialogue. Forget about the fact that none of them is ever being sincere even to his self. With knowledge, ignorant is dead. All am after is the assessment of the third person who search for truth sincerely and the manners in which we conduct ourselves matters a lot.

Many of these brothers and sisters depend solely in "copy-pasting" from any so-called website. None of them even read whatever he posted and at the end they can't defend their so-called claim; then they do what they know how to do best: "derailing".
We can only justify who we are by replying and displaying knowledge with wisdom and good morals with strong argument. These are the ways of Aimmatu ahl al-bayt (a.s).

Besides you know how sober this sacred month is for the followers of ahl al-bayti Rasul.

May Allah forgive our shortcomings!
Allahuma shafa'atal Hussain Yaomal wurud!

apologies my brother for descending to their level.but sometimes its just a reaction to unveil their position.
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Is Ashura And What Led To The Tragedy Of Karbala? by Rafidi: 1:33pm On Nov 11, 2013
@Betathing

“He is not one of us who strikes his cheeks, rends his garment, or cries with the cry of the Jaahiliyyah.”

the above says nothing about hitting one's chest or thigh if we are to assume the hadith is sound.our mourning is not the "cries of jahiliyyah".we need to identify first what was described as "cries of jahiliyyah" to know if it is the same thing we are doing.

that aside,the Prophet (s) is recorded to have mourned for his mother for 30 years even though Sunnis claim she was not a muslim!

also our motive behind marking the martyrdom of Imam Hussain (as) is not so that we can cry or beat ourselves to show grief.these are just means to highlight the injustice and oppression done to the Ahlul-Bayt (as) right from Saqifa Banu Saeda.in other words we are proving our position and justifying it as Shia for following the Ahlul-Bayt (as).the martyrdom of Imam Hussain (as) is the saddest that can portray how the Ahlul-Bayt (as) were treated after the death of the Prophet (s).Wahhabis do not object to ashura because we cry or what we do.it is because of what it stands for in the legacy of Imam Hussain (as) against the caliphate system that was usurped,and which would be restored by Imam Mahdi (aj).
Islam for Muslims / Re: Shia Ayatollah Issues Fatwa Permitting The Drinking Of Water During FASTING by Rafidi: 1:27pm On Nov 11, 2013
@Betathing

“He is not one of us who strikes his cheeks, rends his garment, or cries with the cry of the Jaahiliyyah.”

the above says nothing about hitting one's chest or thigh if we are to assume the hadith is sound.our mourning is not the "cries of jahiliyyah".we need to identify first what was described as "cries of jahiliyyah" to know if it is the same thing we are doing.

that aside,the Prophet (s) is recorded to have mourned for his mother for 30 years even though Sunnis claim she was not a muslim!

also our motive behind marking the martyrdom of Imam Hussain (as) is not so that we can cry or beat ourselves to show grief.these are just means to highlight the injustice and oppression done to the Ahlul-Bayt (as) right from Saqifa Banu Saeda.in other words we are proving our position and justifying it as Shia for following the Ahlul-Bayt (as).the martyrdom of Imam Hussain (as) is the saddest that can portray how the Ahlul-Bayt (as) were treated after the death of the Prophet (s).Wahhabis do not object to ashura because we cry or what we do.it is because of what it stands for in the legacy of Imam Hussain (as) against the caliphate system that was usurped,and which would be restored by Imam Mahdi (aj).

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