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Islam for Muslims / Re: The Martyrdom Of Imam Ali Ibn Abi Talib (as) In The Holy Month Of Ramadan by Rafidi: 11:49am On Jul 31, 2013
A'zamallahu ujurakum bi musabi Amiril Mumeen (as).
Islam for Muslims / Re: The Martyrdom Of Imam Ali Ibn Abi Talib (as) In The Holy Month Of Ramadan by Rafidi: 7:13pm On Jul 29, 2013
Sacrificing for Islam: the Life of Imam Ali

Wednesday, 22 June 2011 01:41

Ali Jamaleddine


Shrine of Imam Ali in Najaf, Iraq

The term sacrifice is defined as the "act of giving up something valued for the sake of something else regarded as more important or worthy." The sacrifices made by those who embraced Islam are crucial in the rise of our faith and its continuation to this very day. The degrees of sacrifices may vary from one person to another depending on their status, level of faith, and their own abilities. It is no surprise that the people who sacrificed the most for Islam are the Holy Prophet and his Pure Household (peace be upon them all). As their followers, it is mandatory to study the different sacrifices they made if we are to follow in their paths.

Imam Ali (peace be upon him) is one of these role models whose sacrifices are innumerable. It is important to not just restrict our discussion only to "what" sacrifices Imam Ali made, but to also focus on the motive behind the sacrifice and also the tools that ensured the sacrifice was "impactful".

Motivations

By examining different sacrifices of Imam Ali, we realize some of the common themes that motivated his actions. These include: pleasing God, protecting the religion, protecting God's representative, and improving the Islamic community welfare.

To begin with, the most common form of sacrifice is giving up one's own life. At the early stages of Islam, the disbelievers wanted to destroy the religion. They tortured, killed, and even banished those who followed Islam. Eventually Allah gave the permission for Jihad, and it is at the point that all Muslims had the chance to make their greatest sacrifice. Battle after battle, war after war, the Muslims marched, and Imam Ali was the first in line for battle. He never ran away. He never backed down. Even when the warrior equated to a thousand men, Amr ibn Abduwad during the battle of the Trench, Imam Ali was the only person to respond to his challenge. While many of the companions of the Prophet sat there, Imam Ali risked his life to protect the image of Islam. While the Imam was not martyred in those battles, the fact that he cared less about his own life and was willing to give it up is alone a major sacrifice. How many of us today are willing to stand in the front line of war with the enemy for the sake of Islam?

Protecting Islam goes further than just raising the flag of the religion. Allah sent us His representatives to help keep spread the teaching of the religion. Many of the believers had to migrate from Mecca to Medina at the very beginning of Islam. This alone was a major sacrifice – leaving everything behind. When the Prophet wanted to migrate, Imam Ali made one of the glorious sacrifices in the history of Islam. He slept in the bed of the Prophet knowing that the disbelievers of Quraysh were determined to kill the Prophet. When the Prophet asked the Imam if he was ready to take on that role, the Imam's reply was, "And will you [O' Prophet] be safe?"

The Imam's sacrifices continued and went beyond sacrificing his life, despite it being the highest form of sacrifice. He sacrificed his wealth for the poor. He sacrificed his rest for his people. He gave everything he was able to give in the way of Allah. He did all that to help the Islamic community. Are we following in his footsteps? Are we sacrificing our wealth for a bigger cause? Are we sacrificing our time for a bigger cause?

The Imam did all of that, and he has set the example in how to do it. Allah has engraved this status of Imam Ali in the Qur'an when He revealed on the night of Hijra, "And of the people is he who sells himself seeking means to the approval of Allah." (2:207)

Tools

By closely examining the aforementioned sacrifices, there are some common attributes that help make each sacrifice solid and they include: faith, devotion, obedience, strength, patience, and wisdom.

It is through the combination of these attributes that each sacrifice will fulfill its desired impact. Obviously, a true Muslim and follower of Ahlul Bayt will combine these attributes. It is only a matter of reaching the maximum depicted by Ahlul Bayt.

A Final Picture

Having examined some of the sacrifices made by Imam Ali, there remains one major sacrifice that may be considered the hardest of them all. This sacrifice might very well destroy any human being, and it takes someone like Imam Ali to be able to handle it in order for this sacrifice to be complete. This sacrifice is his position after the death of the Prophet.

In his own words: "I found that endurance thereon was wiser. So I adopted patience although there was pricking in the eye and suffocation (of mortification) in the throat. I watched the plundering of my inheritance..." (Nahj al-Balagha, Sermon 3)

Furthermore, history narrates the subsequent attack on the house of Imam Ali, and the oppression that came about upon him and his family, especially his WIFE.

Which human being can handle his rights usurped right before him, his wife beaten, and his house attacked and burnt? Which human being can be left as an outcast in the city he helped build? Only Allah knows what Imam Ali went through. And he did it for the sake of Allah. He did it in obedience the will of the Prophet. He did it to protect the Qur'an. He did it to protect the Adhan. He did it so Islam reaches us today.

So, if we claim we follow him, we have to first and foremost learn from him. Then we should strive to make sacrifices to please Allah and to protect His representatives. Not long ago, the Prophet's legacy was attacked. What sacrifice have we made? Just recently, the Qur'an was threatened. What sacrifice have we made? Our Imam Mahdi (may Allah hasten his reappearance) is coming. What sacrifices are we ready to make for his awaited return?

The sacrifices of Imam Ali have inspired many. He has inspired the likes of Ammar ibn Yasir and Hijr ibn Ady. He has inspired Abul Fadhl al-Abbas, Zainab, Habib ibn Madhahir (peace be upon them), and many others. He has inspired great scholars throughout history. He has inspired the Islamic Revolution. He has inspired those who repelled the Zionists in 2006 (i.e. The 2006 Lebanon war). He has inspired the millions marching towards the shrine of Imam al-Hussain today. All of these and many more are students of the School of Imam Ali. They have the necessary attributes. They have the necessary motivations. The question that remains: what about us?

http://www.islamicinsights.com/religion/religion/sacrificing-for-islam-the-life-of-imam-ali.html
Islam for Muslims / Re: The Martyrdom Of Imam Ali Ibn Abi Talib (as) In The Holy Month Of Ramadan by Rafidi: 9:40pm On Jul 27, 2013
"The one who hold unto you (Ahlul-Bayt) will not perish,and saved is the one who take shelter with you".
Islam for Muslims / Re: Genocide Of Shia Muslims In Pakistan by Rafidi: 4:27pm On Jul 27, 2013
Powerful explosions kill 53 people, injure 197 in northwestern Pakistan

Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:30PM GMT

Two powerful explosions have claimed the lives of at least 53 people in the Shia-majority town of Parachinar in Pakistan's tribal region of Kurram, leaving 197 others injured.


The blasts took place in two separate locations in Parachinar, the capital of Kurram Agency, on Friday evening.

In the first incident, a bomb planted on a motorbike went off in the city’s main market near the Afghan border.

The first blast was shortly followed by another explosion at a Shia mosque. Reports say the second blast came after a bomber rammed his motorbike into the main gate of the mosque as crowds of people were praying inside.

Pro-Taliban and al-Qaeda-linked militants, who are reportedly behind the killings, have imposed an economic blockade against the Shia-dominated population areas across the volatile northwest.

The frequent incidents have raised concerns among human rights groups, while moderate Pakistani Sunni groups have described the issue as a conspiracy against the country.

Taliban leaders, who were toppled in the 2001 US-led invasion of Afghanistan, took refuge in tribal regions of Pakistan and rapidly began to extend their influence from tribes to major towns and cities.

The pro-Taliban anti-Shia groups have launched a violent campaign against the Shia Muslims, and are stretching the campaign toward the restive southwestern Pakistan as well.

Quetta, the capital of Pakistan's restive southwestern Balochistan province has witnessed several instances of violence directed against the Hazara Shia community in recent months.

Several Shia religious gatherings have also been targeted in central province of Punjab over the past some months.

Shia Muslims in Pakistan say the government must take decisive action against the forces involved in the targeted killings. They also accuse Islamabad of failing to provide security for the Muslim community.

The country’s Shia leaders have called on the government to form a judicial commission to investigate the bloodshed.

Shias make up about a third of Pakistan’s population of over 180 million.

JR/SS

http://presstv.com/detail/2013/07/26/315734/blasts-kill-25-injure-100-in-nw-pakistan/
Islam for Muslims / Birth Of Imam Hassan Ibn Ali (a), Grandson Of Prophet Muhammad (s) by Rafidi: 7:08pm On Jul 25, 2013
Islam for Muslims / Re: Muslims Reject Child Marriage And Absolve Islam Of The Blame Based On Facts by Rafidi: 5:40pm On Jul 20, 2013
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A'isha was not a child when the Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) married her

Section : Articles || Date : 2010 / 06 / 17 || Reading : 13534




This article is the transcription of a lecture delivered by Shia Muslim scholar His Eminence Allama Sheikh Yasser Al-Habib

Enemies of Islam – be they Christians, Jews or other groups have often used the matter of the Prophet's marriage (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) to A'isha as a weapon against this Great Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family). They rely on that which was spread by A'isha about her having been married off to the Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) when she was a girl of six and that he consummated his marriage to her when she was a girl of only nine. They say: "Look at how this old man married an innocent little girl young enough to be his granddaughter when he was over fifty years old! How could he live with himself taking away her childhood to satisfy his own needs? What sort of a Prophet is this who does something so inhumane?"

In spite of the fact that the account of the Prophet's marriage (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) to A'isha when she was a child is not told by anyone else but A'isha herself – we find no hadith nabawi or any other hadith from a reliable source about it – the enemies of Islam continue to spread these lies dreamt up by A'isha without any proper historical research. They just rely on the accounts to be found in the Bakri (i.e. Sunni) sect's sources.

In fact those with a grudge against the Master of Prophets (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) have exploited the fabricated hadith spread by A'isha through which she wanted to make people think that for the Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family), she was the youngest, most radiant, most beautiful and the favourite among his wives. Her claim that she was just a delicate and innocent child who was ripped away from her swing on which she used to play with her little friends when her mother shouted out to her and led her away so roughly that she could hardly catch her breath – without her knowing what was going to happen or what she was wanted for – to take her to the house of the Prophet who frightened her when he walked in on her when the bitter truth became clear to her that she had suddenly become a wife.

Firstly, let us shed light on the hadith fabricated by A'isha. Bukhari narrates on the authority of Hisham on the authority of his father on the authority of A'isha who said: "The Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) married me when I was a girl of six. We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani al-Harith Ibn Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell out. Later on my hair grew back and my mother, Umm Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing settled down, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age." (Sahih al-Bukhari vol 4 p251 and Sahih Muslim vol 4 p141).

In another hadith A'isha paints a picture of what happened to her in another scenario no less full of tragedy than the last because she claims that her mother sat her down – when she was just a poor child – on the lap of her husband who treated her cheaply and consummated his marriage to her in the house of her father. No wedding banquet was laid on for her to celebrate her marriage to him. No one else even brought them anything to eat!"

Ibn Hanbal reports on the authority of A'isha that she said, "My mother came to me while I was being swung on a swing between two branches and got me down. My nurse took over and wiped my face with some water and started leading me. When I was at the door she stopped so I could catch my breath. I was brought in while Muhammad was sitting on a bed in our house. Men and women from the Ansar were with him. She sat me down on his lap. Then, she said: "This is your family. May Allah bless you with them and may Allah bless them with you. The men and women jumped up and went out and the Messenger of Allah consummated his marriage to me in our house. No camel was slaughtered for me and no sheep was slaughtered for me until Sa'd Ibn Ibada sent us a bowl of grapes, something he would send to the Messenger of Allah whenever he would go round to his wives. At that time I was a girl of nine." (Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal vol 6, p211)

In order to back up her claim that she was an innocent child who did not understand what was going on around her, she came up with another account in which she claimed that when she got married to the Prophet, (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) she still had the dolls and figures she used to play with.

Muslim reports on the authority of Urwa on the authority of A'isha: "The Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) married her when she was a girl of seven and she was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old." (Sahih Muslim vol 4 p142)

Moreover she claimed that she carried on playing with her dolls even after her move to the marital home and that the Greatest Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) would find it soothing and would help her play with her little friends even though they would run away from him because they were scared of him.

Muslim reported on the authority of Hisham Ibn Urwa on the authority of A'isha, "That she used to play with girls in the presence of the Messenger of Allah (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family). She said, 'My friends would come to me and would hide from the Messenger of Allah!' She said: 'So the Messenger of Allah would call to them to play with me." (Sahih Muslim vol 7 p135 and similarly Sahih Ibn Hiban vol 13 p174 and Mu'jam al-Tabarani vol 23 p21).

Ibn Sa'd reports on the authority of Urwa on the authority of A'isha that she said, "The Messenger of Allah walked in on me one day while I was playing with some girls and he said, 'What is this, A'isha?' So she said Sulayman's horse and he laughed." (Al-Tabaqat al-Kubra by Ibn Sa'd vol 8 p62).

This is how A'isha tried to hold together this fictitious account of her being young when she married the Greatest Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) except that no matter how hard the creators of the false account tried to hold it together, it just falls apart as one can see. Now let us respond to these lies in line with scientific and historical facts, even those recorded in sources belonging to the Bakri sect.

Firstly, if A'isha's claims had been true, she would not have contradicted herself. We have already seen the discrepancy between her saying that when she got married she was "a girl of six" and her saying "a girl of seven". Both statements are reported on the authority of her nephew 'Urwa'.

Secondly, Bukhari narrates on the authority of Hisham on the authority of his father who said, "Khadija passed away three years before the Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) left for Madina. He let two years pass, more or less and then he married A'isha, a girl of six. Then he consummated his marriage to her when she was a girl of nine." (Sahih al-Bukhari vol 4 p252)

The opponents [to Ahlulbayt i.e. al-mukhalifun] treat this hadith as if it is also narrated on the authority of A'isha herself for Ibn Hajar says, "This appears mursal but given that it is narrated by 'Urwa', what with his detailed knowledge of A'isha's life story it is also deemed to be narrated on her authority." (Fath al-Bari fi Sharh Sahih al-Bukhari by Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani vol 7 p175)

This hadith would mean that A'isha's wedding could only have taken place the year before the hijra in view of the fact that she was a girl of six, because after Khadija's passing (Allah's blessings upon Her) the Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) let two years pass, more or less, without remarrying. Khadija (Peace be upon Her) passed away three years before the hijra. Then, His having consummated His marriage to A'isha when she was a girl of nine could only have taken place two years after the hijra because this is the time interval between when she was six and when she was nine. A'isha would only have been nine two years after the hijra. On this basis the length of time she lived with the Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) could not have been more than eight years because as everyone knows He became a martyr in year ten (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family).

This contradicts what A'isha claimed according to Muslim's hadith mentioned above – which said that she was taken as a bride, along with her dolls to the Prophet's house (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) when she was a girl of nine and that he died when she was a girl of eighteen which means that she lived with him for nine years. This is confirmed in another hadith narrated by Bukhari on the authority of Hisham on the authority of his father, also on the authority of A'isha: "The Prophet married her when she was a girl of six and she was taken to his house when she was a girl of nine and she lived with him for nine years" (Sahih al-Bukhari vol 6 p134).

The hadiths cancel each other out. If the first is authentic, then the length of time A'isha lived with the Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) was not nine years and if the second is authentic, then the Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) did not marry her the year before the hijra or two years after the Mother of the Believers Khadija al-Kubra's passed away.

This is another contradiction A'isha has dropped herself into even though both sayings are narrated along the same chain [of narration] i.e. Hisham on the authority of her nephew Urwa. This contradiction obviously shows up the lie and fabrication. The Bakri (i.e. Sunni) sect cannot mitigate by saying something like these hadith are weak because they have decided that they are all authentic and to be without a doubt on the authority of A'isha.

Thirdly A'isha claimed that the Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) said, "Oh Allah! In particular, strengthen Islam with Omar Ibn al-Khattab." (Mustadrak al-Hakim vol 3 p83).
We are not in the process of refuting this hadith, or proving that it was fabricated by A'isha; we only wanted to rely on it to prove a point. We say that this hadith is claimed to have been uttered before Omar had begun pretending to be a Muslim on the pretext that his Islam had come as an answer to the Messenger of Allah's du'a (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family). A'isha claims that she heard it from the Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) and that she narrates it directly from him.

According to the Bakri sect Omar's conversion to Islam was in the sixth year after the Prophetic Mission had begun i.e. about seven years before the hijra. It was stated above that A'isha was a girl of six the year before the hijra which means that seven years before the hijra she was still either in her mother's womb or a suckling babe incapable of rational thought. How could she have heard or been aware of this hadith allegedly uttered by the Holiest Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family)?

If what she claimed about her being young and her being a girl of six when she got married, she had no business falsely attributing this fabricated hadith to the Messenger of Allah (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family). And if it was not authentic then the point is still proven i.e. that she was much older than that because according to the claim, she heard the hadith, understood it and narrated it.
This is a third contradiction to add to the aforementioned contradictions which prove that it is a fabrication and a lie but what is most damaging of all is that they are all narrated through an authentic chain of transmission on the authority of Hisham on the authority of his father 'Urwa'. How does one escape that?

Fourthly: Ibn Qutayba says by way of comment on A'isha's hadith about her marriage when she was a girl of nine: "…And she lived until the time when Mu'awiya was the Caliph and she passed away in the year fifty eight when she was nearly seventy. She was asked, "Shall we bury you next to the Messenger of Allah?" She replied, "But I did wrong. Bury me with my sisters." So she was buried in the Baqi' [cemetery] and she appointed Abdallah Ibn Zubayr as her executor. (Al-Ma'arif by Ibn Qutayba p29).

Al-Birri said, "She passed away in the fifty ninth year after the hijra towards the end of Mu'awiya's reign as Caliph. She was nearly seventy. It was on a Monday night, the night before the seventeenth of Ramadan." (Al-Jawhara fi Nisab al-Nabi wa Ashabihi al-'Ashara by Al-Birri vol 1 p216).

Ibn Abd Rabbih said, "After his death, she lived on right up to the days of Mu'awiya and she died in the fifty eighth year. She was nearly seventy. (Al-Iqd al-Farid by Ibn Abd Rabbih vol 2 p71).

Al-Maqdisi said, "He married A'isha in Makkah the year before the hijra (…) A'isha passed away during the time of Mu'awiya. She was nearly seventy. He said to her, "Should we not bury you in your house with the Messenger of Allah?" She replied, "No. I did wrong after His death." (Al-bid' wa al-Tarikh by Al-Maqdisi vol 1 p260).

On this basis, A'isha's age would have been roughly twelve the year before the hijra, the year in which the Greatest Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) married her (as mentioned above). What a far cry this is from her saying that she was a girl of six or seven!".

Even if we were to work on the presumption that what they meant by "nearly seventy" at her death was that she reached the age of sixty seven – as some of them have stated – then she would have been a girl of nine when she got married, not a girl of six or seven except for the fact that we also reject their account that she got married the year before the hijra. We refer back to the objection raised in the second point (above). There is shown to be a contradiction which disproves her claim.

Fifthly, Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani says about Asma' daughter of Abu Bakr, "She was the mother of Abdallah son of Al-Zubayr. She became a Muslim a long time ago in Makkah and pledged allegiance to the Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family). She was ten years older than A'isha and died less than a month after her son was killed. She was a hundred years old. That was in the year seventy three. (Subul al-Salam by Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani vol 1 p39).

Al-Baihaqi and Al-Dhahabi narrate on the authority of Ibn Abi al-Zinad that he said, "Asma' daughter of Abu Bakr was ten years older than A'isha. (Sunan al-Baihaqi vol 6 p204 and Siyar al-Nubala' by Al-Dhahabi vol 2 p289)

Similarly, Al-Nawawi narrates on the authority of Hafiz Abu Na'im that he said, "Asma' was born twenty seven years before the Messenger of Allah's hijra (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family). Her father Abu Bakr was twenty one years old when she was born." (Tahdhib al-Asma' by Al-Nawawi vol 3 p223).

The conclusion to be reached from these narrations is that Asma was twenty seven years old the year before the hijra and given that she was ten years older than her sister A'isha, A'isha's age was about seventeen at that time. That was the year in which she got married. What a far cry this is from her claim that she was a girl of six or seven. So the Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) consummated his marriage to her when she was nearly twenty not a girl of nine.

This is how the lie told by A'isha is exposed. It was her intention to pretend to be younger and fool people into thinking that she was an innocent child who was married against her will to a really old man. In fact, A'isha was nearly twenty at the time meaning that she was a grown up woman and not a child as she claimed.

The age difference between her and between the Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) was about 33 years which is much less than the age difference between Joseph the Carpenter and Our Lady, the Virgin Mary (Peace be upon Her) when she got married or when they got engaged to each other. Mary's age was between just 12 and 14 while Joseph's was about 90.

The Catholic Encyclopedia says, "…a respectable man to espouse Mary, then twelve to fourteen years of age, Joseph, who was at the time ninety years old" (Website). That means that the age difference between Joseph and Mary was about 77 years. That is more than double the difference between the Prophet Muhammad (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) and A'isha. So why is there no outcry over this matter too?

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Politics / Re: Femi Fani-kayode: A Nation Of Perverts And paedophiles by Rafidi: 1:15pm On Jul 20, 2013
A'isha was not a child when the Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) married her

Section : Articles  ||   Date : 2010 / 06 / 17   ||   Reading : 13534




This article is the transcription of a lecture delivered by Shia Muslim scholar His Eminence Allama Sheikh Yasser Al-Habib

Enemies of Islam – be they Christians, Jews or other groups have often used the matter of the Prophet's marriage (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) to A'isha as a weapon against this Great Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family). They rely on that which was spread by A'isha about her having been married off to the Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) when she was a girl of six and that he consummated his marriage to her when she was a girl of only nine. They say: "Look at how this old man married an innocent little girl young enough to be his granddaughter when he was over fifty years old! How could he live with himself taking away her childhood to satisfy his own needs? What sort of a Prophet is this who does something so inhumane?"

In spite of the fact that the account of the Prophet's marriage (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) to A'isha when she was a child is not told by anyone else but A'isha herself – we find no hadith nabawi or any other hadith from a reliable source about it – the enemies of Islam continue to spread these lies dreamt up by A'isha without any proper historical research. They just rely on the accounts to be found in the Bakri (i.e. Sunni) sect's sources.

In fact those with a grudge against the Master of Prophets (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) have exploited the fabricated hadith spread by A'isha through which she wanted to make people think that for the Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family), she was the youngest, most radiant, most beautiful and the favourite among his wives. Her claim that she was just a delicate and innocent child who was ripped away from her swing on which she used to play with her little friends when her mother shouted out to her and led her away so roughly that she could hardly catch her breath – without her knowing what was going to happen or what she was wanted for – to take her to the house of the Prophet who frightened her when he walked in on her when the bitter truth became clear to her that she had suddenly become a wife.

Firstly, let us shed light on the hadith fabricated by A'isha. Bukhari narrates on the authority of Hisham on the authority of his father on the authority of A'isha who said: "The Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) married me when I was a girl of six. We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani al-Harith Ibn Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell out. Later on my hair grew back and my mother, Umm Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing settled down, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age." (Sahih al-Bukhari vol 4 p251 and Sahih Muslim vol 4 p141).

In another hadith A'isha paints a picture of what happened to her in another scenario no less full of tragedy than the last because she claims that her mother sat her down – when she was just a poor child – on the lap of her husband who treated her cheaply and consummated his marriage to her in the house of her father. No wedding banquet was laid on for her to celebrate her marriage to him. No one else even brought them anything to eat!"

Ibn Hanbal reports on the authority of A'isha that she said, "My mother came to me while I was being swung on a swing between two branches and got me down. My nurse took over and wiped my face with some water and started leading me. When I was at the door she stopped so I could catch my breath. I was brought in while Muhammad was sitting on a bed in our house. Men and women from the Ansar were with him. She sat me down on his lap. Then, she said: "This is your family. May Allah bless you with them and may Allah bless them with you. The men and women jumped up and went out and the Messenger of Allah consummated his marriage to me in our house. No camel was slaughtered for me and no sheep was slaughtered for me until Sa'd Ibn Ibada sent us a bowl of grapes, something he would send to the Messenger of Allah whenever he would go round to his wives. At that time I was a girl of nine." (Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal vol 6, p211)

In order to back up her claim that she was an innocent child who did not understand what was going on around her, she came up with another account in which she claimed that when she got married to the Prophet, (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) she still had the dolls and figures she used to play with.

Muslim reports on the authority of Urwa on the authority of A'isha: "The Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) married her when she was a girl of seven and she was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old." (Sahih Muslim vol 4 p142)

Moreover she claimed that she carried on playing with her dolls even after her move to the marital home and that the Greatest Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) would find it soothing and would help her play with her little friends even though they would run away from him because they were scared of him.

Muslim reported on the authority of Hisham Ibn Urwa on the authority of A'isha, "That she used to play with girls in the presence of the Messenger of Allah (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family). She said, 'My friends would come to me and would hide from the Messenger of Allah!' She said: 'So the Messenger of Allah would call to them to play with me." (Sahih Muslim vol 7 p135 and similarly Sahih Ibn Hiban vol 13 p174 and Mu'jam al-Tabarani vol 23 p21).

Ibn Sa'd reports on the authority of Urwa on the authority of A'isha that she said, "The Messenger of Allah walked in on me one day while I was playing with some girls and he said, 'What is this, A'isha?' So she said Sulayman's horse and he laughed." (Al-Tabaqat al-Kubra by Ibn Sa'd vol 8 p62).

This is how A'isha tried to hold together this fictitious account of her being young when she married the Greatest Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) except that no matter how hard the creators of the false account tried to hold it together, it just falls apart as one can see. Now let us respond to these lies in line with scientific and historical facts, even those recorded in sources belonging to the Bakri sect.

Firstly, if A'isha's claims had been true, she would not have contradicted herself. We have already seen the discrepancy between her saying that when she got married she was "a girl of six" and her saying "a girl of seven". Both statements are reported on the authority of her nephew 'Urwa'.

Secondly, Bukhari narrates on the authority of Hisham on the authority of his father who said, "Khadija passed away three years before the Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) left for Madina. He let two years pass, more or less and then he married A'isha, a girl of six. Then he consummated his marriage to her when she was a girl of nine." (Sahih al-Bukhari vol 4 p252)

The opponents [to Ahlulbayt i.e. al-mukhalifun] treat this hadith as if it is also narrated on the authority of A'isha herself for Ibn Hajar says, "This appears mursal but given that it is narrated by 'Urwa', what with his detailed knowledge of A'isha's life story it is also deemed to be narrated on her authority." (Fath al-Bari fi Sharh Sahih al-Bukhari by Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani vol 7 p175)

This hadith would mean that A'isha's wedding could only have taken place the year before the hijra in view of the fact that she was a girl of six, because after Khadija's passing (Allah's blessings upon Her) the Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) let two years pass, more or less, without remarrying. Khadija (Peace be upon Her) passed away three years before the hijra. Then, His having consummated His marriage to A'isha when she was a girl of nine could only have taken place two years after the hijra because this is the time interval between when she was six and when she was nine. A'isha would only have been nine two years after the hijra. On this basis the length of time she lived with the Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) could not have been more than eight years because as everyone knows He became a martyr in year ten (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family).

This contradicts what A'isha claimed according to Muslim's hadith mentioned above – which said that she was taken as a bride, along with her dolls to the Prophet's house (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) when she was a girl of nine and that he died when she was a girl of eighteen which means that she lived with him for nine years. This is confirmed in another hadith narrated by Bukhari on the authority of Hisham on the authority of his father, also on the authority of A'isha: "The Prophet married her when she was a girl of six and she was taken to his house when she was a girl of nine and she lived with him for nine years" (Sahih al-Bukhari vol 6 p134).

The hadiths cancel each other out. If the first is authentic, then the length of time A'isha lived with the Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) was not nine years and if the second is authentic, then the Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) did not marry her the year before the hijra or two years after the Mother of the Believers Khadija al-Kubra's passed away.

This is another contradiction A'isha has dropped herself into even though both sayings are narrated along the same chain [of narration] i.e. Hisham on the authority of her nephew Urwa. This contradiction obviously shows up the lie and fabrication. The Bakri (i.e. Sunni) sect cannot mitigate by saying something like these hadith are weak because they have decided that they are all authentic and to be without a doubt on the authority of A'isha.

Thirdly A'isha claimed that the Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) said, "Oh Allah! In particular, strengthen Islam with Omar Ibn al-Khattab." (Mustadrak al-Hakim vol 3 p83).
We are not in the process of refuting this hadith, or proving that it was fabricated by A'isha; we only wanted to rely on it to prove a point. We say that this hadith is claimed to have been uttered before Omar had begun pretending to be a Muslim on the pretext that his Islam had come as an answer to the Messenger of Allah's du'a (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family). A'isha claims that she heard it from the Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) and that she narrates it directly from him.

According to the Bakri sect Omar's conversion to Islam was in the sixth year after the Prophetic Mission had begun i.e. about seven years before the hijra. It was stated above that A'isha was a girl of six the year before the hijra which means that seven years before the hijra she was still either in her mother's womb or a suckling babe incapable of rational thought. How could she have heard or been aware of this hadith allegedly uttered by the Holiest Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family)?

If what she claimed about her being young and her being a girl of six when she got married, she had no business falsely attributing this fabricated hadith to the Messenger of Allah (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family). And if it was not authentic then the point is still proven i.e. that she was much older than that because according to the claim, she heard the hadith, understood it and narrated it.
This is a third contradiction to add to the aforementioned contradictions which prove that it is a fabrication and a lie but what is most damaging of all is that they are all narrated through an authentic chain of transmission on the authority of Hisham on the authority of his father 'Urwa'. How does one escape that?

Fourthly: Ibn Qutayba says by way of comment on A'isha's hadith about her marriage when she was a girl of nine: "…And she lived until the time when Mu'awiya was the Caliph and she passed away in the year fifty eight when she was nearly seventy. She was asked, "Shall we bury you next to the Messenger of Allah?" She replied, "But I did wrong. Bury me with my sisters." So she was buried in the Baqi' [cemetery] and she appointed Abdallah Ibn Zubayr as her executor. (Al-Ma'arif by Ibn Qutayba p29).

Al-Birri said, "She passed away in the fifty ninth year after the hijra towards the end of Mu'awiya's reign as Caliph. She was nearly seventy. It was on a Monday night, the night before the seventeenth of Ramadan." (Al-Jawhara fi Nisab al-Nabi wa Ashabihi al-'Ashara by Al-Birri vol 1 p216).

Ibn Abd Rabbih said, "After his death, she lived on right up to the days of Mu'awiya and she died in the fifty eighth year. She was nearly seventy. (Al-Iqd al-Farid by Ibn Abd Rabbih vol 2 p71).

Al-Maqdisi said, "He married A'isha in Makkah the year before the hijra (…) A'isha passed away during the time of Mu'awiya. She was nearly seventy. He said to her, "Should we not bury you in your house with the Messenger of Allah?" She replied, "No. I did wrong after His death." (Al-bid' wa al-Tarikh by Al-Maqdisi vol 1 p260).

On this basis, A'isha's age would have been roughly twelve the year before the hijra, the year in which the Greatest Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) married her (as mentioned above). What a far cry this is from her saying that she was a girl of six or seven!".

Even if we were to work on the presumption that what they meant by "nearly seventy" at her death was that she reached the age of sixty seven – as some of them have stated – then she would have been a girl of nine when she got married, not a girl of six or seven except for the fact that we also reject their account that she got married the year before the hijra. We refer back to the objection raised in the second point (above). There is shown to be a contradiction which disproves her claim.

Fifthly, Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani says about Asma' daughter of Abu Bakr, "She was the mother of Abdallah son of Al-Zubayr. She became a Muslim a long time ago in Makkah and pledged allegiance to the Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family). She was ten years older than A'isha and died less than a month after her son was killed. She was a hundred years old. That was in the year seventy three. (Subul al-Salam by Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani vol 1 p39).

Al-Baihaqi and Al-Dhahabi narrate on the authority of Ibn Abi al-Zinad that he said, "Asma' daughter of Abu Bakr was ten years older than A'isha. (Sunan al-Baihaqi vol 6 p204 and Siyar  al-Nubala' by Al-Dhahabi vol 2 p289)

Similarly, Al-Nawawi narrates on the authority of Hafiz Abu Na'im that he said, "Asma' was born twenty seven years before the Messenger of Allah's hijra (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family). Her father Abu Bakr was twenty one years old when she was born." (Tahdhib al-Asma' by Al-Nawawi vol 3 p223).

The conclusion to be reached from these narrations is that Asma was twenty seven years old the year before the hijra and given that she was ten years older than her sister A'isha, A'isha's age was about seventeen at that time. That was the year in which she got married. What a far cry this is from her claim that she was a girl of six or seven. So the Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) consummated his marriage to her when she was nearly twenty not a girl of nine.

This is how the lie told by A'isha is exposed. It was her intention to pretend to be younger and fool people into thinking that she was an innocent child who was married against her will to a really old man. In fact, A'isha was nearly twenty at the time meaning that she was a grown up woman and not a child as she claimed.

The age difference between her and between the Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) was about 33 years which is much less than the age difference between Joseph the Carpenter and Our Lady, the Virgin Mary (Peace be upon Her) when she got married or when they got engaged to each other. Mary's age was between just 12 and 14 while Joseph's was about 90.

The Catholic Encyclopedia says, "…a respectable man to espouse Mary, then twelve to fourteen years of age, Joseph, who was at the time ninety years old" (Website). That means that the age difference between Joseph and Mary was about 77 years. That is more than double the difference between the Prophet Muhammad (Allah's Peace and Blessings upon Him and His pure Family) and A'isha. So why is there no outcry over this matter too?

http://alqatrah.net/en/edara/?id=91

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Islam for Muslims / Re: A Timeline Of Sectarian Terrorism Against Shia Muslims by Rafidi: 7:53pm On Jul 02, 2013
Bomber kills 20 Shias in Diyala province

A bomb attack has killed over twenty Shia Muslims in Diyala province, which is located north of Baghdad.

IA/HGL

http://edition.presstv.ir/iphone/detail.aspx?id=311784
Islam for Muslims / Re: Shia Islamic Sheikh Hassan Shehata Martyred By Salafists In Egypt by Rafidi: 6:20pm On Jun 29, 2013
"We have the determination to resist your injustice.And we will not surrender.The most you can do is kill us.And we welcome martyrdom for the sake of Allah.Life does not end when a man dies.real life begins when he dies".

-Saudi Shia Muslim Scholar,Ayatollah Nimr Baqer al-Nimr addressing the terrorist Wahhabi/Salafist Sunni Takfiris.

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Islam for Muslims / Syria Report: Salafist/Wahhabi Terrorists From Europe Beheading Shia Muslim by Rafidi: 9:26am On Jun 29, 2013
Islam for Muslims / Re: A Timeline Of Sectarian Terrorism Against Shia Muslims by Rafidi: 9:25am On Jun 29, 2013
Foreign Affairs / Re: Hassan Rouhani Is Iran's Next President by Rafidi: 7:58pm On Jun 16, 2013
[b]Iranians had the choice to choose among 6 honorable men for president.the americans only have the choice to choose between two men,who are forwarded by the democrats and republicans.yet some people brainwashed by israeli and american propaganda want us to believe iran is not a democracy,but the US is.

In the US,the supreme court presided by 5 judges (who are not elected but selected) can over turn the decision of the president of the united states.in iran,the supreme leader who is the guardian of the 1979 islamic revolution,who can over turn the decision of the president,is elected by the guardian council made up of 12 Shia Muslim clerics of high prominence in islamic scholarship,who are directly voted for by the iranian people.in other words those who elect the supreme leader are chosen directly by the people,just like members of parliament can nominate a prime minister or approve.in america,those who can over turn the president's decision are chosen by the president himself.why is iran less democratic than the US,and why is the supreme leader of iran a "dictator" while the 5 judges of the american supreme court,the two parties (democrats and republicans) or the american president himself are not dictators? Must everyone follow the american system to be seen as "democratic"? Or does america and israel reserve the right to name who is democratic and who is not? At least iran have a new leader every four years and iranians vote for the man of their choice.but america's allies like saudi arabia,qatar and bahrain are oppressive and dictatorial monarchies that don't even allow people to choose an headmaster talkless of an head of state.

In the UK,the queen appoint the prime minister,who is most likely from the labor party or conservatives.the party members in the british parliament are no different from those elected members of the guardian council.the supreme leader doesn't get the chance of having his child inherit power.he is voted for by the elected members of the guardian council,who are respectable scholars.yet britain that doesn't have the choice for its monarch to be elected by the people directly or indirectly (through members of an elected body or council) is a "democracy" but iran with an (indirectly) elected supreme leader (just like a british PM), who is chosen and doesn't pass power through inheritance,is "not a democracy".people are really crazy thanks to the blind power of american propaganda".[/b]

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Islam for Muslims / Re: A Timeline Of Sectarian Terrorism Against Shia Muslims by Rafidi: 9:25pm On Jun 11, 2013
Urgent: 11 Shiite Muslims Brutally Killed by Saudi-US Backed Terrorists in Iraq

Unidentified gunmen killed on Tuesday morning seven Shiite truck drivers after kidnapping them in north-east of Baquba, capital of Diyala province. Also four displaced Shiite people returning to their home areas were killed on Tuesday by gunmen in Zagenah area, about 25 km northwest of Baquba,” a security official in Diyala said.

more:
http://www.abna.ir/data.asp?lang=3&id=428449
Islam for Muslims / Re: Ashura:Commemorating The Martyrdom Of Imam Hussain (as) in the Month of Muharram by Rafidi: 9:41pm On Jun 07, 2013
28th Rajab: Departure of Imam Hussain (as) from Madina to Makkah,and also Eid al-Mab'ath marking the beginning of the prophetic mission of the Great Prophet Muhammad (s).
Politics / Re: Aturu Threatens To Sue Over Fawaz , Others Detention by Rafidi: 11:24am On Jun 04, 2013
"Weapons Found At The Hezbollah Compound In Kano "
https://www.nairaland.com/1312069/weapons-found-hezbollah-compound-kano/4#16049077
Rafidi :
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nairaland should be renamed "rumor land".

for the fact that these men underneath whose house weapons were found are Lebanese and possibly Shia Muslims (not Sunnis like Boko Haram;in fact book haram is extremist sunni also referred to as salafists or Wahhabis) does not mean the compound is a "Hezbollah compound".how did these rumor mongers confirm the link between the men and Hezbollah? I don't see Hezbollah doing anything in northern Nigeria,for the mere fact that most northerners are sunnis.some would say what about relations between shia iran and Hezbollah with sunni hamas? hamas is sunni but not salafist/Wahhabi like boko haram and all alqaeda (shia hating takfiri) cells.also hamas is fighting Israeli Zionist occupation of palestinian land,and not going about boming places of worship where the Shia or Christians gather.recently when hamas started backing the so called "Syrian revolution" and helping western backed salafist/Wahhabi terrorists disguised as rebels fighting the Syrian government,both iran and Hezbollah have lowered their ties with hamas.presently relations between the two camps are not as before. if this house was in zaria,i could have suspected a link between Hezbollah and the shia Islamic movement of sheikh zakzaky.the only reason why the word "Hezbollah" appears in the news is to make it dramatic and exaggerate the find.its like killing two birds with one stone by giving credit to the Nigerian security officials and also pleasing Israel which detests Hezbollah,which pushed Israel to defeat in the 2006 Lebanon war.we want our security bodies to get hold of boko haram.we need tangible results to safeguard the lives of Nigerians against those who have been killing Nigerians,namely the salafist/Wahhabi boko haram.trying to tarnish the image of the Shia Muslims,and particularly Hezbollah and iran to please the west or the sunni Wahhabi countries like Saudi Arabia is of no good to Nigeria.this should stop.i am talking because I am a peace-loving Shia Muslim.not once can anyone point out a Shia Muslim conducting a suicide bombing in a church or sunni mosque to kill innocent civilians/worshippers,because that is not part of the shia Islamic doctrine,but part of salafism/wahhabism and their takfiri brand of islam.

as for what is paraded as weapons found,these are clearly old weapons.yes weapons were found,but in what state and condition and where? I heard from someone in kano that the Lebanese man bought the house not knowing the weapons were kept underneath.these weapons have been under that house either since the biafran war or the military rule.

it would have been enough to arrest the owner of the house and do thorough investigation without blowing grammar and using big words to express unfounded claims.to a very large extent the Lebanese are business minded people who are mostly after making their living and getting money.they are into the culture of business and money making.one can perhaps compare them to the igbos in Nigeria and their sense for business.it is unfair to tarnish the reputation of others and making claims,when we know well the slogan of "innocent until proven guilty".let us assume the british authorities would have dramatized the incident in which a Nigerian beheaded a Briton to say Michael adeboloja is a "boko haram member" or even say an "SSS member",since Hezbollah in Lebanon is recognized as an official body and representative of the Lebanese people..that would have been utterly ridiculous and amateurish.

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Politics / Re: SSS Excavate “Boxes” From Amigo Supermarket by Rafidi: 11:38pm On Jun 03, 2013
"Weapons Found At The Hezbollah Compound In Kano "
https://www.nairaland.com/1312069/weapons-found-hezbollah-compound-kano/4#16049077
Rafidi :
[b]
nairaland should be renamed "rumor land".

for the fact that these men underneath whose house weapons were found are Lebanese and possibly Shia Muslims (not Sunnis like Boko Haram;in fact book haram is extremist sunni also referred to as salafists or Wahhabis) does not mean the compound is a "Hezbollah compound".how did these rumor mongers confirm the link between the men and Hezbollah? I don't see Hezbollah doing anything in northern Nigeria,for the mere fact that most northerners are sunnis.some would say what about relations between shia iran and Hezbollah with sunni hamas? hamas is sunni but not salafist/Wahhabi like boko haram and all alqaeda (shia hating takfiri) cells.also hamas is fighting Israeli Zionist occupation of palestinian land,and not going about boming places of worship where the Shia or Christians gather.recently when hamas started backing the so called "Syrian revolution" and helping western backed salafist/Wahhabi terrorists disguised as rebels fighting the Syrian government,both iran and Hezbollah have lowered their ties with hamas.presently relations between the two camps are not as before. if this house was in zaria,i could have suspected a link between Hezbollah and the shia Islamic movement of sheikh zakzaky.the only reason why the word "Hezbollah" appears in the news is to make it dramatic and exaggerate the find.its like killing two birds with one stone by giving credit to the Nigerian security officials and also pleasing Israel which detests Hezbollah,which pushed Israel to defeat in the 2006 Lebanon war.we want our security bodies to get hold of boko haram.we need tangible results to safeguard the lives of Nigerians against those who have been killing Nigerians,namely the salafist/Wahhabi boko haram.trying to tarnish the image of the Shia Muslims,and particularly Hezbollah and iran to please the west or the sunni Wahhabi countries like Saudi Arabia is of no good to Nigeria.this should stop.i am talking because I am a peace-loving Shia Muslim.not once can anyone point out a Shia Muslim conducting a suicide bombing in a church or sunni mosque to kill innocent civilians/worshippers,because that is not part of the shia Islamic doctrine,but part of salafism/wahhabism and their takfiri brand of islam.

as for what is paraded as weapons found,these are clearly old weapons.yes weapons were found,but in what state and condition and where? I heard from someone in kano that the Lebanese man bought the house not knowing the weapons were kept underneath.these weapons have been under that house either since the biafran war or the military rule.

it would have been enough to arrest the owner of the house and do thorough investigation without blowing grammar and using big words to express unfounded claims.to a very large extent the Lebanese are business minded people who are mostly after making their living and getting money.they are into the culture of business and money making.one can perhaps compare them to the igbos in Nigeria and their sense for business.it is unfair to tarnish the reputation of others and making claims,when we know well the slogan of "innocent until proven guilty".let us assume the british authorities would have dramatized the incident in which a Nigerian beheaded a Briton to say Michael adeboloja is a "boko haram member" or even say an "SSS member",since Hezbollah in Lebanon is recognized as an official body and representative of the Lebanese people..that would have been utterly ridiculous and amateurish.

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Politics / Re: Weapons Found At The Hezbollah Compound In Kano by Rafidi: 10:48pm On Jun 03, 2013
[b]
nairaland should be renamed "rumor land".

for the fact that these men underneath whose house weapons were found are Lebanese and possibly Shia Muslims (not Sunnis like Boko Haram;in fact book haram is extremist sunni also referred to as salafists or Wahhabis) does not mean the compound is a "Hezbollah compound".how did these rumor mongers confirm the link between the men and Hezbollah? I don't see Hezbollah doing anything in northern Nigeria,for the mere fact that most northerners are sunnis.some would say what about relations between shia iran and Hezbollah with sunni hamas? hamas is sunni but not salafist/Wahhabi like boko haram and all alqaeda (shia hating takfiri) cells.also hamas is fighting Israeli Zionist occupation of palestinian land,and not going about boming places of worship where the Shia or Christians gather.recently when hamas started backing the so called "Syrian revolution" and helping western backed salafist/Wahhabi terrorists disguised as rebels fighting the Syrian government,both iran and Hezbollah have lowered their ties with hamas.presently relations between the two camps are not as before. if this house was in zaria,i could have suspected a link between Hezbollah and the shia Islamic movement of sheikh zakzaky.the only reason why the word "Hezbollah" appears in the news is to make it dramatic and exaggerate the find.its like killing two birds with one stone by giving credit to the Nigerian security officials and also pleasing Israel which detests Hezbollah,which pushed Israel to defeat in the 2006 Lebanon war.we want our security bodies to get hold of boko haram.we need tangible results to safeguard the lives of Nigerians against those who have been killing Nigerians,namely the salafist/Wahhabi boko haram.trying to tarnish the image of the Shia Muslims,and particularly Hezbollah and iran to please the west or the sunni Wahhabi countries like Saudi Arabia is of no good to Nigeria.this should stop.i am talking because I am a peace-loving Shia Muslim.not once can anyone point out a Shia Muslim conducting a suicide bombing in a church or sunni mosque to kill innocent civilians/worshippers,because that is not part of the shia Islamic doctrine,but part of salafism/wahhabism and their takfiri brand of islam.

as for what is paraded as weapons found,these are clearly old weapons.yes weapons were found,but in what state and condition and where? I heard from someone in kano that the Lebanese man bought the house not knowing the weapons were kept underneath.these weapons have been under that house either since the biafran war or the military rule.

it would have been enough to arrest the owner of the house and do thorough investigation without blowing grammar and using big words to express unfounded claims.to a very large extent the Lebanese are business minded people who are mostly after making their living and getting money.they are into the culture of business and money making.one can perhaps compare them to the igbos in Nigeria and their sense for business.it is unfair to tarnish the reputation of others and making claims,when we know well the slogan of "innocent until proven guilty".let us assume the british authorities would have dramatized the incident in which a Nigerian beheaded a Briton to say Michael adeboloja is a "boko haram member" or even say an "SSS member",since Hezbollah in Lebanon is recognized as an official body and representative of the Lebanese people..that would have been utterly ridiculous and amateurish.

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Islam for Muslims / Re: Malcolm X’s Grandson Malcolm-latif Shabazz Killed In Mexico: Report by Rafidi: 5:11pm On May 10, 2013
Shame on nairaland and its Islamophobia.

If it was an iranian or even a saudi convert to christianity that is shot dead,the thread would be on the front page and the Islam/Muslim bashing would have commenced.here we have a convert to Islam first apprehended and questioned by the FBI for being a Muslim and travelling to Iran, and now shot.besides,this is the grandson of Malcom X,the pride of America's Black race.obviously islamophobia is good business to attract traffic to nairaland.

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Islam for Muslims / Re: Was The Grave In Syria Really Desecrated? by Rafidi: 10:13pm On May 04, 2013
Iraqi Sunni Associations condemned exhumation of the grave of Hojr-e-bin Odday by Al-Nasr terrorist group

SHAFAQNA Exclusive: Iraqi Sunni Associations condemned exhumation of the grave of Hojr-e-bin Odday by Al-Nasr terrorist group

Khaled Abdulwahab Molla the Head of Iraqi Sunni Associations declared condemnation of all Iraqi Sunnis for barbaric actions of terrorist groups in Syria which led to exhumation of the grave of Hojr-e-bin Odday and asked all international organisations to support the sanctity and respect of all shrines and grave yards around the world. The statement issued by all Iraqi Sunnis said the serial attacks of the Islamic personalities by the infidels led to exhumation of the grave of Hojr-e-bin Odday, the respected Sahhabi of the Prophet (PBUH). This is one of the most indecent acts in order to insult highly respected Muslim personalities, said the statement.

The statement declared that the continuation of such deliberate acts is a sign of barbaric ways which are used by armed terrorist groups to combat Islamic teachings. The Iraqi Sunni asked all international organisations to act in order to support the sanctity and respect for all shrines and grave yards around the world. According to Kol-ol Iraq News Association, the Iraqi Sunnis warned Muslims to be aware of attacks by the Takfiri groups against the Islamic civilisation and culture and asked all Muslims to unite in order to defend Islam by opposing these groups.

http://en.shafaqna.com/shafaq/item/16412-shafaqna-exclusive-iraqi-sunni-associations-condemned-exhumation-of-the-grave-of-hojr-e-bin-odday-by-al-nasr-terrorist-group.html
Islam for Muslims / Re: Sunni Rebels Desecrate Grave And Exhume Body Of Noble Companion In Syria by Rafidi: 10:12pm On May 04, 2013
Iraqi Sunni Associations condemned exhumation of the grave of Hojr-e-bin Odday by Al-Nasr terrorist group

SHAFAQNA Exclusive: Iraqi Sunni Associations condemned exhumation of the grave of Hojr-e-bin Odday by Al-Nasr terrorist group

Khaled Abdulwahab Molla the Head of Iraqi Sunni Associations declared condemnation of all Iraqi Sunnis for barbaric actions of terrorist groups in Syria which led to exhumation of the grave of Hojr-e-bin Odday and asked all international organisations to support the sanctity and respect of all shrines and grave yards around the world. The statement issued by all Iraqi Sunnis said the serial attacks of the Islamic personalities by the infidels led to exhumation of the grave of Hojr-e-bin Odday, the respected Sahhabi of the Prophet (PBUH). This is one of the most indecent acts in order to insult highly respected Muslim personalities, said the statement.

The statement declared that the continuation of such deliberate acts is a sign of barbaric ways which are used by armed terrorist groups to combat Islamic teachings. The Iraqi Sunni asked all international organisations to act in order to support the sanctity and respect for all shrines and grave yards around the world. According to Kol-ol Iraq News Association, the Iraqi Sunnis warned Muslims to be aware of attacks by the Takfiri groups against the Islamic civilisation and culture and asked all Muslims to unite in order to defend Islam by opposing these groups.

http://en.shafaqna.com/shafaq/item/16412-shafaqna-exclusive-iraqi-sunni-associations-condemned-exhumation-of-the-grave-of-hojr-e-bin-odday-by-al-nasr-terrorist-group.html
Islam for Muslims / Re: Sunni Rebels Desecrate Grave And Exhume Body Of Noble Companion In Syria by Rafidi: 10:10pm On May 04, 2013
Al-Azhar condemned exhumation of the grave of Hojr-e-bin Odday in Syria by Al-Nasr terrorist group

Sheikh Mansour Mandoor, a member of Egypt’s Al-Azhar talking to Al-Alam Network condemned exhumation of the grave of the Hojr-e-bin Odday one of Prophet’s (PBUH) Sahabas in Syria by armed terrorist groups. He added that Al-Azhar’s position has always been clear regarding the respect for Prophet’s (PBUH) Sahabas. He said Al-Azhar is against such actions and consider it Haram (forbidden) especially in the case of Hojr-e-bin Odday who met the Prophet (PBUH) and his lofty position is known to all. Last Thursday armed terrorist elements belonging to Al-Nasr group affiliated to Al-Qaida accepted responsibility for exhuming the body of Hojr-e-bin Odday in Reef province of Syria and found the body the same as the day it was buried. The terrorists have taken the body with themselves to an unknown location.

http://en.shafaqna.com/shafaq/item/16411-shafaqna-exclusive-al-azhar-condemned-exhumation-of-the-grave-of-hojr-e-bin-odday-in-syria-by-al-nasr-terrorist-group.html
Islam for Muslims / Re: Was The Grave In Syria Really Desecrated? by Rafidi: 10:09pm On May 04, 2013
Al-Azhar condemned exhumation of the grave of Hojr-e-bin Odday in Syria by Al-Nasr terrorist group

Sheikh Mansour Mandoor, a member of Egypt’s Al-Azhar talking to Al-Alam Network condemned exhumation of the grave of the Hojr-e-bin Odday one of Prophet’s (PBUH) Sahabas in Syria by armed terrorist groups. He added that Al-Azhar’s position has always been clear regarding the respect for Prophet’s (PBUH) Sahabas. He said Al-Azhar is against such actions and consider it Haram (forbidden) especially in the case of Hojr-e-bin Odday who met the Prophet (PBUH) and his lofty position is known to all. Last Thursday armed terrorist elements belonging to Al-Nasr group affiliated to Al-Qaida accepted responsibility for exhuming the body of Hojr-e-bin Odday in Reef province of Syria and found the body the same as the day it was buried. The terrorists have taken the body with themselves to an unknown location.

http://en.shafaqna.com/shafaq/item/16411-shafaqna-exclusive-al-azhar-condemned-exhumation-of-the-grave-of-hojr-e-bin-odday-in-syria-by-al-nasr-terrorist-group.html
Islam for Muslims / Re: Prostration (Sujood) On Soil-What Is The Justification? by Rafidi: 10:43pm On Apr 25, 2013
Hadith Explaining the Sunnah of Prostrating on Earth:

1.) Imam Ja’far al-Sadiq (as) was asked about the philosophy behind prostrating on the earth, he said:

“Because prostration is surrendering and humiliation to the Almighty. Therefore, it shouldn’t be on what is worn and eaten because people are slaves of what they eat and wear, and prostration is worshipping of Allah, so one should not put his forehead during prostration on that which is worshipped by the people (food and clothing) and that which conceits people.”
Wasa’il al-Shi’ah, Vol 3 page 591


2.) Sunan Abu Dawud, Urdu Edition, page 381, 376:

“The Prophet (s) had the sign of Mud on his forehead and Nose, due to prostration on Mud”

3.) “Jabir Ibn Abdullah (ra) reported : We were praying with Messenger of Allah [s] at noon (dhuher prayer) so I held pebbles in my palm to make it cold then switch it to my other palm and when I prostrate I put them down for my forehead”
1.Sunan al-Nisa’i, Volume 2 page 204
2.Sunan al-Bayhaqi Volume 1 page 439
3.Musnad Ahmad ibn Hanbal, Volume 3 page 327.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Prostration (Sujood) On Soil-What Is The Justification? by Rafidi: 10:32pm On Apr 25, 2013
Why do Shia prostrate on turbah (pieces of clay)?

Question:

Some of my Muslim brothers and sisters ask why we (prostrate) on the turbah? Can you please elaborate, as to why we (prostrate) on it and on where this hadith came from?

Answer:

1. The Earth is a Place of Prostration

There is a narration narrated in Sahih Muslim and Sahih Bukhari (Sunni books), as well as the Shia books, where the Prophet (pbuh) says:

“The earth is made for me as place of prostration and purification.”

(Bukhari 1:209, Muslim 1:371, Wasa’elu-Shi’a 3:423)

From this narration, we understand that when we prostrate, it should be on ‘earth’ or something directly from the earth. This includes soil, sand, pebbles and minerals (except gold and silver). It also includes paper and leaves from trees because they grow from the earth. (Tissue is probably the last option if nothing else is available).

The other condition is that the thing we pray on must not be wearable or edible. Therefore, we cannot pray on leaves from plants which are edible or from which clothes can be made (e.g. cotton).

Imam al-Sadiq (as) says:

“Prostration is only allowed on earth or things that are from the earth, except those things which can be worn or consumed”. (Wasailul Shia, 3:591)

2. Why we do not (prostrate) on Carpet?

We do not (prostrate) on carpet because it is not earth and is not made from earth. The above narration says that we should (prostate) on the earth, and therefore carpet is no something we can (prostrate) on. This is confirmed by other narrations. Abu Said al-Khudri narrates about the Prophet:

“We were in the mosque and the roof of the mosque was made of date palm branches so that we could not see up into the sky. One day it rained heavily. The Prophet (pbuh) led the prayer with us, so much so that I saw the marks of the mud on the forehead of the Prophet (pbuh…” (Bukhari, 2:386)

A’isha narrates:

“The Prophet (pbuh) never placed anything between his forehead and the earth…”

(Mosnad Imam Ahmad, 6:58)

At the time of the Prophet, carpets did exist and if the Prophet (pbuh) wished, he could have prayed/(prostrated) on a carpet or laid the mosque’s floor with carpet. However, this never happened.


3. Narrations about the Straw Mat (Khumrah)

We also have many narrations from Sunni sources that the Prophet (pbuh) would have a small straw square that he would prostrate on. It seems that when it was too hot to place one’s forehead on the soil, the Prophet would use a straw mat to prostrate on. As this is made from trees, it is considered a product of the earth.

Um Salama: ‘The Prophet would pray on a small strawmat’.

Anas: ‘The Prophet would pray on a straw mat’.

(Bukhari, 1:231)

Therefore, it is at least a precaution to avoid praying on carpet as the Prophet (pbuh) did not ever do this. Imam al-Sadiq (as) says:

“I prefer that he prostrates on the earth. The Messenger of Allah (pbuh) used to like to place his forehead on the earth. I like for you what the Messenger of Allah (pbuh) used to like.”

(WasailulShia)

Answered by: Dr Ali Alsamail
Certified by: Sheikh Mansour Leghaei

http://www.askthesheikh.com/why-do-shia-prostrate-on-turbah-pieces-of-clay/
Islam for Muslims / Re: Prostration (Sujood) On Soil-What Is The Justification? by Rafidi: 10:39am On Apr 21, 2013
Why do the Shi'ah prostrate on Turbah?

Therefore celebrate the praises of thy Lord, and be of those who prostrate themselves in adoration (Holy Qur'an 15:98)

The Shi'ah Muslims prefer to prostrate on a small block of earth, called a Turbah, which is usually made from clay from the land of Karbala in Iraq.

According to the Shi'ah Ja'fari fiqh - which is one of the five main schools of law in Islam - prostration must be performed on pure earth or what grows on it, provided that it is not eaten or worn. This includes dust, stone, sand and grass, provided that it is not a mineral. Prostration on paper is permitted, because it is made of a material which grows on earth, but not cloth or carpets.

The legal scholars of all the Sunni schools of law concur regarding the validity of prostration on earth and that which grows on it.

Did the Prophet (s) and his Companions ever do this?
Praying on the earth was certainly the practice of the Prophet (s) and those around him.

Narrated Abu Sa'id al-Khudri: I saw Allah's Apostle prostrating in mud and water and saw the mark of mud on his forehead.

[Al-Bukhari, Sahih (English translation), vol. 1, book 12, no. 798; vol. 3, book 33, no. 244]

Narrated Anas bin Malik: We used to pray with the Prophet in scorching heat, and if someone of us could not put his face on the earth (because of the heat) then he would spread his clothes and prostrate over them.

[Al-Bukhari, Sahih (English translation), vol. 2, book 22, no. 299]

According to this hadith only in exceptional circumstances would the Prophet (s) and his Companions prostrate on cloth.

The Prophet (s) also used to have a Khumra on which he would put his forehead for prostration.

Narrated Maymuna: Allah's Apostle used to pray on a Khumra.
[Al-Bukhari, Sahih (English translation), vol. 1, book 8, no. 378]

According to al-Shawkani, a famous Sunni scholar, more than ten Companions of the Prophet (s) have narrated traditions mentioning his prostration on a Khumrah. And he lists all the Sunni sources recording these traditions which include Sahih Muslim, Sahih al-Tirmidhi, Sunan Abu Dawud, Sunan al-Nasa'i and many others.
[Al-Shawkani, Nayl al-Awtar , Chapter of Prostration on the Khumrah, vol. 2, p. 128]


So what is a khumrah?

a small mat sufficient just for the face and the hands while prostrating during prayers.
[Al-Bukhari, Sahih (English translation), vol. 1, book 8, no. 376 (as explained by the translator in paranthesis)]


Ibn al-'Athir, another famous Sunni scholar, in his Jami al-'Usul has written:

"Khumra is [like that] upon which the Shi'ah of our time perform their prostrations."
[Ibn al-'Athir, Jami' al-Usul, (Cairo, 1969), vol. 5, p. 467]

"Khumra is a small mat made from palm fibres or other material…. and it is like that which the Shi'ah use for prostration."
[Talkhis al-Sihah, p. 81]


But why the earth of Karbala?
The special characteristics of the soil of Karbala (Iraq) were known and it was an object of special attention during the time of the Prophet (s) as well as in later times:

Umm Salama says: I saw Husayn (a) sitting in the lap of his grandfather, the Prophet (s), who had a red block of soil in his hand. The Prophet (s) was kissing the dust and weeping. I asked him what that soil was. The Prophet (s) said: "Gabriel has informed me that my son, this Husayn, will be murdered in Iraq. He has brought this earth for me from that land. I am weeping for the suffering that will befall my Husayn." Then the Prophet (s) handed the dust to Umm Salama and said to her: "When you see this soil turn into blood, you will know that my Husayn has been slaughtered." Umm Salama kept the soil in a bottle and kept watch over it until she saw on the day of Ashura, 10th of Muharram 61 A.H., that it turned to blood. Then she knew that Husayn bin Ali (a) had been martyred.

[al-Hakim, al-Mustadrak, vol. 4, p. 398]
[al-Dhahabi, Siyar a`lam al-nubala', vol. 3, p. 194]
[Ibn Kathir, al-Bidayah wa'l-nihayah, vol. 6, p. 230]
[al-Suyuti, Khasa'is al-kubra, vol. 2, p. 450; Jam` al-Jawami, vol. 1, p. 26]
[Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani, Tahdhib al-tahdhib , vol. 2, p. 346]


'Ali ibn Abi Talib, passed by Karbala after the battle of Siffin. He took a handful of its soil and exclaimed: 'Ah, ah, on this spot some men will be slain, and will enter Paradise without reckoning!'
[Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani, Tahdhib al-tahdhib , vol. 2, p. 348]


Why is it compulsory to prostrate on the clay from Karbala?

It is not !

But the Shi'ah prefer to prostrate on the earth of Karbala because of the importance given to it by the Prophet (s) and the Imams from his Family (Ahl al-Bayt). After the martyrdom of Imam Husayn (a), his son Imam Zayn al-'Abidin (a) picked some up, declared it to be sacred dust, and kept it in a bag. The Imams (a) used to perform prostrations on it and make a tasbih out of it, and recited Allah's praises on it.

[Ibn Shahrashub, al-Manaqib, vol. 2, p. 251]


They also encouraged the Shi'ah to perform prostrations on them, with the understanding that it was not compulsory, but with a view to achieving greater recompense. The Imams (a) insisted that prostration before Allah must be on clean earth only and that it was preferable if it was performed on that earth of Karbala.

[al-Tusi, Misbah al-Mutahajjad, p. 511]

[al-Saduq, Man la yahduruhu'l faqih, vol. 1, p. 174]


The Shi'ah for a long time have kept this earth with them. Then, fearing that it might be desecrated, they kneaded it into small tablets or pieces, which are now called mohr or Turbah. During prayers we prostrate on it not as a compulsory act but in view of its special nature. Otherwise, when we have no pure soil with us, we prostrate on clean earth, or something that originates from it.

It is a pity that some people maliciously insist that the Shi'ah worship stones or that they worship Husayn (a). The truth is that we worship Allah alone by prostrating on the Turbah, not to it. And we never worship Imam Husayn, Imam Ali, or the Prophet Muhammad (s). We worship only Allah, and it is in accordance with Allah's order that we perform prostration only on pure earth.


Conclusion
This is the reason why Shi'ah Muslims carry small tablets, usually made from the earth of Karbala, which enables them to do prostration on this highly recommended object and to follow the sunnah of the Prophet (s).

http://www.al-islam.org/nutshell/laws_practices/7.htm
Islam for Muslims / Re: Mainstream Sunnis Call For Liberating Makkah And Madina From Wahhabis/Salafists by Rafidi: 8:04pm On Apr 09, 2013
BetaThings:

Ahamdinajad has repeatedly said Israel should be destroyed
I don't love Israel But saying a whole nation should be destroyed is too much. What happens to people like Miko Peled
http://www.france24.com/en/20120817-iran-ahmadinejad-slams-cancerous-tumour-israel-nuclear-war-protest-zionist

really I felt reluctant to reply your post because most of it is built on either lack of knowledge or you bid to confuse things up since you cant convince me.

let us assume Ahmadinejad said he would wipe Israel off the map,does that mean he would wipe Israel because he "hates" jews? at least try to be consistent with yourself.you just posted a video showing Ahmadinejad with (neturei karta anti-Zionist) jews,and you wanted to lable the Shia as "allies" of the jews.now you want to accuse the Shia of being hateful of the jews.you cant have it both ways.and seriously would I be wasting my time replying to such nonsense?

in reality Ahmadinejad never said Israel should be wiped off the map.the western media mistranslated or misquoted Ahmadinejad.and ever since then,they kept on repeating that lie to use as propaganda in Israel's favor.below is the deputy Israeli PM admitting Ahmadinejad was misquoted:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZmffEQmKr8


www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD8MoSFO44k

get real please.terrorists are fighting in Syria.civil war is happening in Syria between two political divides: pro and anti-government.it has nothing to do with Shi'ism.

I shouldn't reply to such nonsense from al-safa tv.its because I believe that by you presenting such material you're ignorant of the truth.

al-safa tv has called for the Sayyida Zainab (as) shrine to be demolished,and the area called "Sayyida Zainab" be renamed in honor of yazeed.

please do you support naming an area in a muslim land in honor of yazeed? yes or no?



I don't need to talk about Zaydis, Ismailis, twelvers (so you too are not homogenous in shiism)

Shia Islam has offshoot sects just like Sunnism also does.the alawites of Syria are an offshoot sect as well.but today when you hear the word "Shia",it refers to the followers of 12 Imams (as),who are also called with the following names: twelver,Ja'fari,imamiyyah,ithna-ashariyyah. in Shia Islam,we only have one school of thought or jurisprudence (fiqh).that school is called the Ja'fari madhab.Sunnis have four schools,aside from the sub-sects or offshoot sects,and movements like the Wahhabis/salafists in their midst.


I am talking about Sunnis. Leave them to sort themselves out. The Op is interested in divide and conquer of Sunnis.
And the guy talking in that video does not make sense to me. Some people should go to the desert so that he, a non-native of Saudi peninsula, can come in. strange proposition. And it is always grave worshippers that make these complaints. Will hanbalis from other countries make the same complaints about SA?
you're the grave worshipper.and may Allah curse you for that.

you lie a lot.that is sunnism.you don't fear Allah (swt) before you point finger based on your assumptions,ignorance,filth,and doubts.you're silly people.this is not Islam you're following.you can pray and fast and grow your beards all you like.but you lack the essence of Islam which is sincere submission to the will of God.


Incidentally if muslims are supposed to be one in Iran, why do you keep dividing outside Iran?
we are not one.and we don't even want to be one with falsehood.how can we be one with headchopping and suicide bombing salafists/Wahhabis?


How many people talk about wahhabis in Nigeria? How many people encourage suicide bombing in Saudi Arabia? the Saudis cannot even support because they have been victim of it at both personal and national levels
The leading scholars you would call Salafis - Albanee, bin Baz, Uthaymin who all died even before 911 - did not support suicide bombing

We have Iranians on tape saying that Hezbollah did the Beirut suicide bombing with their support
members who later joined Hezbollah are said to have being involved.also Palestinians were involved,and they are sunnis.

it is not a matter of suicide bombing or jumping from a 100 storey building.its about who is your target.the bombings in Beirut targeted American and French troops,and those were seen as occupation forces interfering in the affairs of another country.the American embassy too was influencing and fueling the Lebanese civil war through its network of spies to the advantage of pro-Israel sympathizers.

the fact remains I do not criticize for instance Sunni Hamas for conducting suicide bombing or what they call martyrdom operation against Israeli targets.but I criticize book haram for using suicide bombing to target churches,just as I criticize Wahhabis/salafists for using suicide bombing against Shia civilians in Pakistan.

the point is the Wahhabis/salafists have given Israel a justification to tarnish the reputation of its opponents.wahhabi/salafist terrorists are doing harm to the cause of the Palestinians.now anyone who fights Israel,even if its a sunni exploding himself at an Israeli checkpoint,israel is quick to point out that the attack was carried out by a "suicide bomber".it is now synonymous with terrorism.before,sunni Palestinians and shia Lebanese attack Israel using martyrdom or suicide bombing,and it was not synonymous with terrorism or attacking civilians for their different beliefs.wahhabi terrorists have done harm to the image of muslims and their legitimate cause in Palestine.they have done a great favor to Israel.and remember you are talking here of oppressed and victimized Palestinians whose land is stolen and are overpowered by Israel's superior firepower,and the Palestinians seek ways to defend themselves and inflict loss upon their enemy.the Palestinians seek suicide bombing because they are dying anyways,so let them die while defending themselves and inflicting loss upon the enemy.according to Sheikh Ahmad Yassin,he said when Palestinians have planes and sophisticated weapons to defend themselves,they will have no need to resort to a tactic like suicide bombing.Sheikh Yassin was a (non-wahhabi) Sunni.hear him talk before his assassination on his wheelchair:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvnXR_X-TX0
Islam for Muslims / Re: Mainstream Sunnis Call For Liberating Makkah And Madina From Wahhabis/Salafists by Rafidi: 7:23pm On Apr 07, 2013
BetaThings:

So it is compulsory to receive enemies that you have told us must be destroyed?
Iran or the Shia have never declared the jews as a people to be "enemies".iran like all muslims (sunni and shia) have a problem with Zionism.unfortunately majority of jews are Zionists.neturei karta is anti-Zionist.

the Shia do not believe we should fight or eliminate others from other religions,simply because they hold beliefs contrary or different to ours.Islam promotes self-defense and also tolerance and co-existence even with non-believers.we Shia Muslims are not like the Wahhabis who blow up themselves in Churches and Shia places of worship to kill innocent lives for belonging to other faiths.when last did a Shia blow himself in a Church? never!!! we Shia Muslims are simply against aggressors who kill and fight against Islam and Muslims.


You kill Sunnis and keep it quiet while the Al Qaeda terrorists are loud mouthed?
where?


Sunnis are by your defintion not Muslims.
not true.

sunnis themselves are not a homogenous group.the OP started a thread on mainstream sunnis asking Wahhabi/salafist Sunnis to leave Makkah and Medina.you are here making the topic a sunni vs shia issue.which sunni are you talking about? is it the extremist and terrorist salafist/Wahhabis? or the mainstream sunni? or the sufi sunnis who are also targeted by the Wahhabis?



It is clear in your books (the highly regarded Al Kafi among others) that whoever do not believe in the imamate and claims to be a muslim is a kafoir and should be executed.
false.



Wherever you are in the minority, you favour segregation; where you are in the majority you want to wipe out the minority sunni by dictating activities at the mosques and impose your doctrines on them. Shias don't like to pray behind sunnis. They regard it as nawafil. So you virtually force Sunnis not to really pray when they are not allowed to hold their own sessions
pray on your own.you are not obliged to pray behind a shia imam even if the mosque is administered by shias,and vice versa. we do not impose our doctrine on anyone.we do not even believe in jihad or the sword to spread Islam,as sunnis glorifying their early caliphs for doing that."there is no compulsion in religion".


Amantu Billahi wa Rasuli Hi
I am also a follower of Ali (RA) or that also makes me a Jahili? Hahaha.
And we know you will like to fish out the likes of me and rid yourself of this petty irritation. I am preparing my neck
nonsense.

look at who is killing who:

Shia Genocide in Pakistan
https://www.nairaland.com/1120418/genocide-shia-muslims-pakistan

A Timeline Of Sectarian Terrorism Against Shia Muslims
https://www.nairaland.com/961495/timeline-sectarian-terrorism-against-shia/1


BTW why do you just want to exclude people from Jannah by force? Why don't you even wait till the day of Qiyama? We remember that you guys strived hard to ensure that Saddam did not make Shahada at the point of death. You should really have allowed him, having executed him. Allah is not powerless

No. You should have shown forgiveness to Saddam. It would have sent a powerful message. I have seen you guys relate stories of compassion from your Imams. Why are you not like them? Why?

compassion to an unrepentant criminal against humanity? if he would have pleaded guilty and begged for forgiveness,it would have been another story.

you know saddam who is now an hero to sunni arabs,also gas-ed the sunni kurds?

you just talk for the sake of it.or perhaps you're testing your allegiance to your faith to see how true or false it is;that is welcome.


No sunni country is threatening Iraq. But you have your eyes on Saudi Arabia. You guys just want to match in!
no one is threatening Saudi Arabia.iran isn't threatening an invasion of Saudi Arabia.iran is simply saying there are Saudi shias who are oppressed and victimized.they should be given their rights and treated with dignity as equal citizens.if any change is to come in Saudi Arabia,it is the Saudis who will decide that by themselves.and if or when they do,that would be a welcome development.you don't accept tyranny upon yourself because freeing yourself from the bondage of the tyrant will also free your "enemy".that is cruel.you accept the tyranny of the al-saud even upon sunnis in Saudi Arabia because the fall of the al-saud clan will bring freedom and change to the shia of Arabia.

it was reported that the Saudi king was the one urging the US to attack iran.can you see the cowardice and hypocrisy? iran simply wants friendly governments around the world that doesn't follow western dictates against the Islamic republic.iran wants fair treatment and the right to survive against western imperialism and schemes.



BTW Syria is a major sunni country! When will democracy bring majority rule?
let the west and its Saudi,qatari and Turkish puppets stop send foreign terrorists into Syria,and allow the Syrian people to vote in a free and fair election.more than half of Syria's 50% sunni arabs will vote for bashar.the sunni kurds who make about 20% will also vote for bashar.the 15-20% shia,druze,ismaili and alawites and 10 percent Christians will also vote for bashar.the rule of bashar al-assad in Syria,economy-wise and even in terms of political and religious freedom,is many times better than Saudi Arabia and even turkey.


Our minds are made up. These are greek gifts. When you stop undermining Islam, we will trust you
And your ferocity in Syria while making Shahada to Assad (yes it is on tape) is noted
grin


I am a confirmed liar? Hahahah. What an achievement. I am recognised by a Shia
BTW did I saw lie when I said the US was instrumental in toppling Mussediq? Make your mind too!!!
I don't have to make up my mind.i know iran and the USA are rivals to say the least.but if their interests cross,then that is a different topic.

you need to make up your mind.so you know the US toppled Mossadeq? and you accuse the Islamic republic of iran of having an alliance with the usa in your sunni conspiracy theory aka Wahhabi/salafist hallucination!


While posturing to be holding out and playing hard ball in 1979, your guys were in cahoots with Reagan
Same way they delivered hostages to Chiraq after getting rid of Mitterand

iran held hostages of the American embassy.and they saw that delaying their release till after the election will force americans to vote against their incumbent president.that is a win-win situation for iran.it doesn't mean either that iran loved Reagan.the same thing with france.delaying the release of the French hostages in Beirut ensured that a franch president lost his re-election bid.another win-win situation.you should admire iran and the shia for their pragmatism and wisdom instead of behaving like a loser and hating all the time.i know you feel sad its the shia impressing and not sunnis,but you have no choice about the matter.you either continue hating or you give up and admit the truth. cheesy
Islam for Muslims / Re: Mainstream Sunnis Call For Liberating Makkah And Madina From Wahhabis/Salafists by Rafidi: 5:24pm On Apr 07, 2013
chei!

Sunnis and lies.followers of satan.so Ahmadinejad meeting rabbis of the anti-Zionist and anti-Israel jewish organization,Neturei Karta,means he "loves" Jews to imply he loves Israel and america? neturei karta is opposed to Israel and America's support for Israel to kill and eliminate the sunni Palestinians.

iran gave over 300 million dollars aid and also weapons to sunni Hamas,and that sunni clown painting his beards orange,says that is nothing and it is to "profit".how much ungrateful can Sunnis get? Sunnis have killed Shia more than Christians and jews have.so if you see the shia as enemies,that is your headache.your sunni preachers are calling for makkah and medina to be freed from wahhabis,and all you could do is to spread propaganda videos against iran and the shia.how honorable of you.if this is what you've gained in being sunni,i $h*t on you and your sunnism.

and ofcourse the the BS that sunnis do not have a mosque in Tehran.in iran muslims can pray in any mosque and Iranians refuse to tag mosques as "sunni" or "shia".in an area there is a majority sunni population,the mosque is administered by sunnis.and where there is shia majority,the mosque is administered by shia.iran is over 90% shia.check how the 25% shia in Saudi Arabia are maltreated,oppressed and killed.

in Afghanistan,iran would naturally tell its ally the Northern Alliance to fight the Taliban,because of what the Taliban did to the Iranian diplomats and the shia of mazar al-sharif.the Taliban and al-Qaeda committed genocide against the shia in Afghanistan.(today the Taliban is committing genocide against shia in Pakistan).that by no way means Iran is subservient to American policies or allied with the USA,as Wahhabi/salafist Saudi Arabia and Qatar and sunni turkey are allied with and subservient to American and Israeli dictates.it simply means Iranian interests are in favor of the removal of the Taliban.the same goes with saddam.saddam was supported for 8 years to fight Iran by the western countries.so when those who helped saddam against iran,finally want to remove saddam from power,what do you expect iran to do? support saddam? well sunnis don't have sense.i don't expect you to be wise.how can a follower of abu sufyan and umar and yazid be wise? jahiliyah,jahiliyah,jahiliyyah!!!

Iraq is a majority shia country and the majority in any democracy has the right to rule.the shia got power in Iraq after the American invasion not because the USA loves the shia or iran,but because reality dictates that.after some years,today there is no more American occupation in Iraq.all American soldiers have left after iran insisted they leave and the Iraqi shia staged attacks.but up to this day,there are American troops in Wahhabi Saudi Arabia since the gulf war in 1990.

if iran sponsors sunni Palestinians,sunnis don't appreciate.

if iran fights for its interests,sunnis nag.

if iran demands America leaves Iraq,while the americans are in Saudi Arabia,sunnis say America is "protecting" Saudi Arabia from iran.

shia get power in Iraq,sunnis say America is collaborating with the shia.

please make up your mind!!! things are not always black and white in politics;however iran has principles and its ideology it follows,while sunni countries (especially in the middle east) are less than beggars and puppets to the western countries.you sometimes have to read between the lines.but I am not surprised with sunnis lying and you a confirmed liar spreading the lies.you should check who is America's number one ally in the middle east-Wahhabi Saudi Arabia!!! who is the number enemy of (shia) muslims,christians and humanity everywhere-Wahhabis!!! when Wahhabis and americans clash,iran will naturally choose what suit its interests.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Ex-Sunni: 'Why I Became Shia'; Inspirational Stories by Rafidi: 10:06pm On Apr 05, 2013
BetaThings: ^^^
Are you referring to this thread or another?
I asked questions and you answered, some filled with polemics
And I reminded you that there are more believable versions of your stories when you started talking about invention

As for light, how do you expect people to believe you when all around us we see you guys taking inconsistent positions
See below

you don't have what it takes obviously to know how to think consistently.

take for instance in your above post.someone pointed that "slapping" oneself or hitting oneself as a sign of mourning was practiced by early muslims and also in Arabian culture,and Aisha was cited as doing it,as found in Sunni books.you turned around and asked if we are taking the practice from Aisha,who we don't like and condemn.are you for real? did anyone say Aisha started the act,or was the only one who did it and we take it from her?

the same thing with supernatural power that the chosen servants of God are given.a Sunni says a prophet controls the world and it is fine with you because he said Allah (swt) gave that man power.then a Shia says a prophet or holy imam has supernatural power,and you accuse him of "shirk".and we Shia have the same Quran (as Sunnis) in which we read: "there is no might or power except in Allah".please get real.

don't just criticize and argue for the sake of it.it makes you look too little too small in your thinking,and you only end up astray from the truth and the essence of the gist.

salam.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Ex-Sunni: 'Why I Became Shia'; Inspirational Stories by Rafidi: 10:00pm On Apr 05, 2013
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you like arguing even over what to your admission you do not know about.real waste of time. sad

you can use the below (where you can find Shia Muslims in abundance) to argue the way you are going.there you can come across many who would have your time.

www.shiachat.com

or research on your own:

www.al-islam.org

http://en.shiapen.com/index.html

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