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luvmijeje:
I hope you didn't miss the part that says in spirit and in truth. John 4:24 says
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
So go and start faking it o, the all knowing God will know.

This is isn't what I asked you ma'am.

Chubhie:
I acknowledge you,respect the difference and wish you the very best in your path.

Likewise.

4everGod:
Since you still cannot see it then let it be

Can the other people on this help us judge this matter with a neutral lens.

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luvmijeje, hopefullandlord, jonbellion, felixomor et al.

luvmijeje:
But I've told you the step to take for you to see God. [/b]Have you try desisting from all sins? Have you try serving him in spirit and in truth? Have you tried obeying all his commandments?

If you've done all these and you still didn't see God, let me know[/b]

Confirm. For how long does he have to do these things before drawing a conclusion on whether God is real or not?

4everGod:
You said "if" and then said they would be physically discernible. I wonder how a probability and a certainty came to be found in the same statement.

The Universe is a physical place, IF there are lifeforms on any part of the Universe outside the earth, we WOULD BE ABLE to discern it/them with our senses or an instrument.

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Pray, what is wrong with this statement?

Platitudinal and meaningless

Chubhie:
Self discovery is the greatest of all discoveries.

4everGod:
Do not give me the impression that the sharp minded Ranchhoddas I know has become dim witted due to his fraternity with atheists.

Read your posts again and see your two faced comment.

Are aliens discernible physically or not? First you say they are then you say scientists who are searching do not know what they are or how they look so how come you already deduced they were physically discerned? Do you have Alien buddies?

Look at that comment again. I said if they exist (probability), they will be discernible via one or more of the five senses or a physical instrument. Otherwise, they do not exist...I don't see the problem here.

4everGod:
author=Ranchhoddas post=54460441] Of course they don't. That's why they are SEARCHING. The same way people searched for the cause of malaria as opposed to the supplications the people on the Dark Continent were offering when the disease wanted to wipe them out of existence. You search and search until you find. Not vice-versa.

Read your comment below then speak again but this time make sense. You already affirmed aliens to be physically discernable and here you are saying the direct opposite.

Ranchhoddas:
If extra-terrestrial beings exist, they'll still physical entities, discernible by at least one of the five senses. This is why physical instruments like the Curiousity rover and not holy water are being used to probe for aliens. Try again!

I'm not sure what you are on about. Kindly highlight the parts of my comments that you deem contradictory.

No I haven't.

Wilgrea7:
you seem to have clearly rejected the belief in God... so you're either agnostic, atheist or deist... I'm guessing atheist... that's why i said the other side

4everGod:
And how do you know that Aliens are indeed physical? Is it due to the kind of search equipment being used? You forget that even those who are searching have no clue what or how an alien is. Try again!

Of course they don't. That's why they are SEARCHING. The same way people searched for the cause of malaria as opposed to the supplications the people on the Dark Continent were offering when the disease wanted to wipe them out of existence. You search and search until you find. Not vice-versa.

felixomor:
Mschewe

Na your niche na.

Wilgrea7:
AHA!!!! i said it.... i win... wish you success on the other side

Lol. Which other side? Does a position of neutrality qualify as the 'other side'?

So you know playboy? Felixomor come see o

blueAgent:
How do you expect a naive Atheist to know that? they only read Books on Darwnism and playboy books.

blueAgent:
15) If you engage in conversation with an atheist, ask them if they believe in the possibility of extraterrestrial life? Most will affirm yes. Is not God an extraterrestrial life form? Yes, absolutely!
“Extraterrestrial” simply means beyond the earth. By definition God is an alien. This paradox exposes the biasness and spiritual darkness in the atheist's heart, that they will deny the existence of a holy God and divine Creator while at the same time allowing the
possibility that aliens created the world as we
know it.

If extra-terrestrial beings exist, they'll still physical entities, discernible by at least one of the five senses. This is why physical instruments like the Curiousity rover and not holy water are being used to probe for aliens. Try again!

4everGod:
Heat? Where?

You call this cacophony of atheistic court Jesters heat bringers? They are simply entertainment.

I see!

Chubhie:
Using your life as specimen, would you still hold the position that all existence flows from uncertainty to certainty?

Don't twist my words. ALL DISCOVERIES. Give me an example otherwise.

Max24:
I agree with ur analysis. Osibanjo may not be able to use the reversal law and I won't recommend he does. But I know people like Saraki or El Rufai won't have scruples with that. Saraki had used it against his father while El Rufai used it against all his benefactors before Buhari ie Atiku, Obasanjo, Zaki El Zaky.

Damn right. Especially that Saraki.

4everGod:
Intellectual is the word you ought to have used and not combative. Calling a spade by its name is common sense and not being combative. I see you have been spiraling.

Lol. And here I was thinking the heat of this section chased you away. Clearly I was mistaken.

Chubhie:
What proper way? Must all things flow from uncertainty to certainty?

This is a limiting mindset to assume which betrays your "intellectual" freethought.

I have not mentioned the word ''intellectual'' in any of my posts. Unless you have a better alternative, all attempts at discovery must follow that way--uncertainty to certainty. This is how all great discoveries have been made, or do you have examples of things discovered in the reverse manner?

Chubhie:
Quite an irony. I assumed freethought implies endless possibilities?

If it's just a possibility, why then do you present it as fact. The proper way to verify these possibilities is to start from a position of uncertainty to certainty and not vice-versa.

Chubhie:
Personally I see sex as a powerful tool of transcendental development. In fact, spiritual sex is the quickest and easiest way to have something resembling a mystical experience.

Sex that remains purely sex becomes a distraction and ultimately stagnates your spiritual growth. But when sex becomes an opportunity to return to the Source and becomes a doorway of transformation to higher states of awareness – it gains a whole new purpose.

Think about these truths.

You started with ''personally'', and ended with ''truths''. How does that work?

bennyann:
R anchhoddas and akin tom, I don't understand you both oo.

Just a story that discourages hatred and encourages forgiveness, love...... Is that what you guys are against?

The story is trying to let us know God doesn't like it when we hate anyone, whether believers or unbelievers, that's all.

It's about forgiveness my brothers. Whether it's fictional or not, God has commanded us to love all.

The kids are being guilted into thinking they have hurt Jesus by 'darting' his image. This guilt causes them to want to make amends and as such, they are roped further and further into religion. Very simple but effective tactic I must say.

xavieree:
I m so sure u knw dat wat jus wrote doesnt xplain it at all from any perspective

What other perspective do you want? Did you fall down?

4everGod:
You of all people should also know that every single post or comment raised by Atheists against Theism has been tackled singly and collectively on numerous occasions here on Nairaland and have simply been rehashing arguments which quite frankly shows a lack of depth in reasoning and ingenuity.

Its very disappointing!

Still on Nairaland? I thought you quit. I can see that you are still your combative self.

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It's good to have you back though. Better days ahead!

B2Spirits:
Psychiatric patient, since my grammar is what interests you, we need to challenge you to a duel. Is it grammar that makes a story the best? Oponu!

I think you have me mistaken for someone else. I did not say anything about your grammar. Just your pride.

Ioannes:
Are you a Christian or a Moslem?

Freethought is my method.

B2Spirits:
If you want to make this a grammar contest, then post links to your published novels, and I will post mine.

Thou haughty fool! If your ''published novels'' are that good, why are you still working for people?

Zaronxpanol:
Note only Osinbanjo is permitted to outshine his boss..

Even Osinbajo is not allowed to break the first law of power. The laws of power are universal and will bend for no man. Although there is a reversal for every law that one can apply. Osinbajo is too ''churchy'' for that. The reversal of the first law of power says things like 'if your boss if weak, hasten his downfall, outshine him in key moments and let nature take its course' and things like that(google it). Osinbajo does not have it in him. So he's better off maintaining the status quo.

Pidgin2:
Wetin do the ones wey you dey see every day?

I no want them. Na you I want!

Ioannes:
Well I have not heard of girls being born without a hymen and If there are you'll agree with me that they are the exception, not the rule.

The point is not in how the hymen gets ruptured per se, it is the fact that there's a Hymen there in the first place. What would be the function of the hymen then?

Let's not digress, the point is that there is no concrete evidence for your initial claim- just religious speculation.

Ioannes:
There's a marked difference between the profane and the spiritual.

A physical evidence is obvious between a couple who have lived together all of their lives sharing pains, joys, troubles, serene moments and bodily fluids too. Eventually, they end up looking very much like each other.

Why do you think there's a thin film of blood blocking the reproductive timely of the female virgin?

Are you aware that blood covenants are the strongest? And blood sacrifices are the most potent? Why do you think Jesus had to die on the cross?

One may find a hundred and one reasons to sleep with different people, it doesn't change the way things work.

You have only reinforced your initial position by drawing your inference from faulty premises. The blood-filled hymen in absent in some ladies(or so I heard), and some ladies rupture theirs via activities other than sex.

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Eerm about Jesus, I no know.

Pidgin2:
Look around you and face reality someone's wife or husband will surely die. That said, plenty examples are available of single mature men and women getting married. They are the ones that even understand what true companionship is all about.

Why should I tell you my age, okay I am 192

I dey find wife!