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Interesting and enlightening I must say. What are your biblical justifications for your white garment and going without shoes even on the road?[quote author=Freeezzz post=54521905]Lemme make a list of your enquiries:
Diabolism
Coconut water
Incense
Unkempt locations
Waterbodies locations.
Alright bro.
Diabolism: I was in Warri last year (for the first time), when I got to AJ's place(one eatery like that, not far from Oritsejafor's church), I noticed how people were giving me space and stare. I thought I had done something out-of-place but then it struck me, "I was in my garment". So, when I got back to the Church I went to, I asked a friend (an Itshekiri(?))and she told me, "Celestians are seen as people with 'powers' and are often feared". But lemme tell you the genesis of this myth. Our founder, Rev. SBJ Oshoffa, made us to understand that, in 1947, during the eclipse of the sun(September 29), he was in a deep forest(he was a carpenter cum log-wood merchant, that sourced for his items in the deep woods). There and then, he saw a bird saying Luli(which was later interpreted to him by the Holy Spirit as Grace), he snake and a baboon(Toks2008, kindly correct me if I'm wrong). He was later given revelations about his calling(it's called the Divine Order in CCC) and the power he's been given to overpower the outraging ocultic and evil powers in vogue then.
Now, Oshoffa, if truly was not led by the Holy Spirit or had gotten his power or the Church or the Church's doctrines by any diabolical means, would not have come to tell us the animals he saw, especially the talking bird. I have not seen one occultic or diabolical pastor declaring publicly that he saw talking animals or God gave him parables with animals, well not until their secret is out in the open. Oshoffa made all his encounter public (Check CCC constitution, online or from bookstore for more info). So now, people getting to hear that, coupled with the miracles they saw and the magnitude of the power of the Holy Ghost with which 'He' works with the Church; Celestial easily becomes a diabolical church.
2. I have never seen a Church conjured or formed with the power from the gates of hell, that would still survive 5years after the death of their pioneer or founder. Celestial Church of Christ is still waxing stronger even at almost 32years after the passing on of our founder in 1985. Just last year, we had another in one of the core middle eastern country. Glory.

Coconut water: I had several times drank the Coconut milk(water), eat the fruit and all sorts, but not without a spiritual inclination(except I wan take am drink garri for hot afternoon). But the use of fruits for prayers didn't isn't anti-biblical or anti-Christ and obviously didn't start with the Celestial Church. One thing we need to understand, I repeat, understand, is that Jesus is a man of mystery and works with us (Celestial Church of Christ especially, because it is His church) mysteriously, using the foolish things to confound the wise. Ok, lemme give you an example, Jesus spat on the floor, made a mud and put it on a man's face then asked him to go have a "river bath". Spit? Mud? River? But excuse, Jesus is the Word of God; through and by Him everything was created and nothing can be created without Him, but there He was, spitting and asking a blind man to go have a river bath, just to get his sight. Amen, Jesus chooses His way of doing things in ways men would not comprehend. And again, fruits are very symbolic to Christianity, even to the Bible. Remember God actual plan was for us to be fruit eaters until the fall of man(and Celestial Church is a Church of the Realm). Then Jesus came to tell us how to know the false prophets, using fruit as a parable. Then Apostle Paul telling us the fruits of the spirit. These guys penetrated the Realm and use that to explain their messages.

Incense: Catholic, the first Church uses incense. Incense didn't start from Celestial Church and let's ask ourselves this, why would the three wise men bring frankincense as gift for our Lord Jesus? Amen.

Unkempt and water locations: Cleanliness is next to Holiness(or something like that). Let me shock you; before you enter any Celestial Church, there's always a sanctified water at the entrance you would have to dip your finger inside to purify yourself by making a sign of the cross with it, starting from your forehead to your heart and sides(the way Catholics make the sign of the cross). This tells you the Church takes cleanliness and purification seriously, stressing the seriously! Now, if I ask you to name the number of Celestial churches you've seen in an unkempt vicinity, you would be really disappointed that, it's just a little few that have chosen to

Freeezzz:
I am not even bothered about the comments; it doesn't get to me, what gets my attention is the curious mind. So then, you can go ahead sir to ask whatever you want to know about the Church and I would answer you with all honesty, according to my little knowledge and if I'm unable, I will surely call on my brother Toks2008 and other brethren I have spotted and known on this forum in a long time.

Why are there many allegations of diabolism among your members? Surely there is no smoke with fire you know. What do you do with things like coconut water and incense? Why are you always situated around unkempt places and waterbodies eg rivers and canals? Let's start here.

Freeezzz:
In as much as I would like to entertain questions or reprove myths, I would only do so for willing minds, who are ready curious to know the truth and not phobic and reprobate minds that have never being in contact with the Celestial Church or truly knows Her worship but rather dwell in the phobia and hatred of the church based on hearsay and nollywood induced idea.
#I_rEP_Celestial_Church_oF_Christ.

I did not want to comment till I came across your comment. Kindly ignore what you perceive to be disparaging comments and proceed to enlighten us on the many misconceptions surrounding your denomination. #followingkeenly.

felixomor:
Hehehe
Lol

You no get wetin to talk again abi. Dem don catch pastor. Continue defending him you hear? Sergio Ramos.

Ishilove:
Where is Apostle Suleiman's name on the number plates?

You people should continue your media trial, meanwhile you all likely do worse things behind closed doors.

Media trial for where na? Olosho come out talk say pastor give am offering you talk say na media trial. Why has the pastor not categorically denied the accusations levelled against him. I'll tell you why; he knows that the lawyers have something tangible on him (Festus Keyamo has a reputation and would not have involved the press if there was nothing concrete). The pastor is probably racking his bald fornicating head and trying to figure out a way to get out of this heavy wahala.

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Ermm, even if we do ''worse things'', we are not Apostles, the ''man of God'' should be held to a higher moral standard.

Ishilove:
Op, please answer this question because I too am not getting this your post

What are you not getting? Pastor don chop, lick plate clean mouth. The car na evidence. Let's call it 'exhibit A'.

Wilgrea7:
....its not about who calls God or Jesus na... new age z cool sha..

See scope. You did not answer oo.

hopefulLandlord:
Hehehehehehehehe
this your detective work Na wa o

I dey suspect that guy.

Babs80:
Thanks for the care... but that is how far I know. I have been at home for the past weeks no medications. But prayers keep me going I bless God

Alright. Best wishes.

Babs80:
According to them the left side is not function.. and I said every dry bone shall rise again. IJN

This is a rather crude diagnosis. What exactly did he say was wrong with your heart?

With all sincerity ke? You no even call God or Jesus. Na New Age you don join?

Wilgrea7:
with all sincerity in my heart, i really hope the OP will be healed and come on nl to testify

Babs80:
Hello everyone... please put me in your prayers doctors report said I have heart disease.... and not thing they can do.. But I believe with GOD all things are possible.. (Felix)

What is the nature of your condition? A heart condition is not necessarily a death sentence.

stanleyalpacino:
Aboru aboye. Can u forsee lottery numbers?

Lol. Babalawos do justice to this query.

Details?

seyema:
Can you rewrite an article?

PrinxArthur1:
Nairaland greatest fool,you don't learn English in Nigeria you get educated with English as a mandatory course dunce!

Ah. You wrote well this time. There's hope for your future.

felixomor:
This guy i am disappointed.
If i want to blackmail somebody who travels to europe for crusades that are always with dates on posters and Internet
I can stalk him anywhere and my passport will also be stamped like his own.

Haba.
I am dissapointed really

I see there is no mountain of foolishness you won't climb to defend your pastor. If the excuse new Sule never think of you don already cook am up for am. We shall see. Watch events unfold.

PrinxArthur1:
your comments makes u look dejected,nasty/chilly,reclusive,misanthropic,man! u look like a dunce,cretin,spastic,an arseh0le and don't quote me again.

Learn English. Waste of school fees. I don quote you, do your worst. Idiat!

I'm so loving this thread mehn.

felixomor:
If u read my posts u will clearly see that I have only dealt with all the evidence on ground.
So far, all are fake.
So far, it has also been exposed that she lied.

I will only analyse one by one
Not in the agbero style of analysis that u do

She is asking for your pastor's passport. Make him bring am out make them compare. Don't worry, I will remind as events unfold. E go clear for your eye. The sad thing is that you'll still support him.

shortgun:
Shine which Congo?
The girl na olosho.
Keyamo is an opportunistic charge n bail lawyer.
You are st*pid.

Not as stupid as you obviously. The fact that you think Keyamo is an opportunistic charge and bail lawyer (whatever that means) shows you have no sense and not worth my time. Run along now.

felixomor:
Keep quiet.
She said initially that her family was promised marriage and the father bursted the lie.

You see how ignorant u r?

Let us assume she lied. She obviously has no moral inhibitions judging from her behaviour so far. Does it change the fact that your man of God ''shine congo''?

After you!

PrinxArthur1:
go and die dude!

felixomor:
Napoli ni
Juventus ko

Does that change the fact that those pics r fake?
Does that change the fact that she told a lie that even her biological father denied?

Or u dont know those are crimes on their own?

I have told u before that your bias always blocks your reasoning.

Craze man. Her fake father was there with them in the bedroom abi. Your own brainwash eh, na the type that not go out except by fasting and prayer. I hope say no be this man church you dey attend. Make e no be say your offering follow for wetin olosho chop?

thunder74:
Fear don catch Keyamo. The fear of the Legal Practitioners Disciplinary Committee is the beginning of wisdom.

Abeg keep quiet. Keyamo is a big lawyer who has handled bigger cases. You can't possibly expect him to be personally involved in every case in his firm.

PrinxArthur1:
you redundant, lackadaisical buffoon wallowing your bigoted state of mind,in short u need to be in a psychiatric ward.

At least your spelling improved. Now stop using silly abbreviations. It's unintelligent.

felixomor:
So you too were also fooled by the Photoshopped pictures ?
After you will come and tell us you are smart and be arguing about science and God....

I am disappointed.
Mscheww

Aaah. How did you scale medical school with this kind of thinking? She said they went to Napoli together, you can be sure that the Italian immigration authorities will keep records of those travels. Do you think that her lawyers allow her say such things in a press conference if they have nothing concrete. Bros think na! Your pastor don carry tithe and offering give olosho! Deal with it!

PHIPEX:
Kayamo is shouting like EFCC media trial. He is gradually trading his reputation for some Naira notes. For me, the timing of this abracadabra shows that's it's an acted script.

Zombie. Read.

PrinxArthur1:
festus Kenyamo is a disgrace to all legal practioners

Fool. You can't read. You can't even spell properly.

felixomor:
So how will more victims justify the fact that you used Photoshopped pictures and lies to tarnish his image?

These are empty threats.

Worshipper of human beings. It is clear to anyone with half a brain that Sule is as guilty as sin. The lawyers will not be saying all these things if they have nothing substantial on him. These guys are professionals, they are just giving him a long rope to hang himself with. He should have settled out of court instead of issuing threats. He's not going to lose much though, people like you will still support him.

4everGod:
Wrong! I suggest you huddle up with your buddies and thrash that out and also tell yourselves how philosophy comes into play over a simple word like unbelief or rejection of belief. Are those words not the root of atheism?

Regarding Christianity, its a lack of maturity that brings varied opinions but not so with atheism

The cause is irrelevant. The point is the variation in definition. You don't get to make excuses.

4everGod:
So is Philosophy used to define atheism? lmao

Yes. It's a philosophical position, not a grammatical one. Same for religion. Even Christians disagree on the definition of Christianity as found in the dictionary.

4everGod:
Quit trying to juggle English...what you do not know, you still do not know. Rejection of belief is simply unbelief as a noun.

Get with the programme.

British Dictionary definitions for unbelief Expand
unbelief
/ˌʌnbɪˈliːf/
noun
1.
disbelief or rejection of belief

Haba boss. We both know matters like this border on philosophy and go beyond dictionary definitions. You are commiting the 'false dichotomy fallacy'.