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ea7: i see you are slow rastarat. Let me spell it out, if he has a windows using sony laptop, do microsoft and sony own whatever he produces?

You are worse Ea...was the laptop and windows giving to you or you bought it?

logicboy: I would still be logic boy without a hand

Really? How is that?

ea7: if the disciples were like you, then their deaths were inevitable. Even your paul argued with greek philosophers and convinced them with logic (in the story). How do you propose to win our souls anyway.

Listen up...evangelism is not marketing. I don't have to lie to you to turn to GOD. The Bible makes it clear that unless GOD calls you, it is impossible to come to HIM. It is also written in the Bible that not every soul can be saved.

I am not called by CHRIST to win souls...I am called to preach the WORD (unadulterated). Whoever hears the Gospel, it is up to that person to make a decision to accept or reject. I will only be judged if I don't tell you that JESUS loves you and want to save you from hell. If you choose to mock those words, it is up to you and a decision that you have made.

Just don't feel big there thinking that I am here to beg you to save your own soul. That is up to you!

logicboy: You use an atheist created site, you use an atheist created software, you use an atheist created hardware, yet you call athiests fools.

Your defense was that God created atheists and therefore is the owner of the atheists creation and therefore it's okay for you to call them fools for not believing in God. Stupidity at it's finest

From what you have written there, it is clear that you never even followed the argument (or was not able to keep up). Let me bring you up to speed on what we just discussed. You were wondering why 68 percent of Japanese, Mark Zuckerberg and Bill Gates were all fools. The answer that I gave you is that it is because they have failed to believe that they were created. How does that have anything to do with the laptop, OS and the website that I am using?

Aren't you sounding ridiculous? You don't want me to call those people fools because they came up with gadgets. Yet you type rubbish about the MAN WHO made you and the very air that you breathe.

What you and all atheist that speak against GOD should know is that HIS love is unfailing and very great. I have to admit that if it has been me up there, you will not even be here typing those nonsense!

logicboy: Irrelevant. You have never seen a soul. Souls dont exist. If we had souls, we would be able to connect to the spiritual world but that doesnt happen

Why don't you answer the question. Will you still be logic boy without a hand?

logicboy: You are even becoming more absurd.

Bill gates created windows and I use a sony laptop.

Does sony or bill gates have any claim to the video that my laptop creates through the webcam?

If god created me, does he own the things i create?

What did you just write there? How did the argument get there?

logicboy: And what would a soul look like? Do souls even exist?

They do my brother. If your hand is cut off right now, will you cease to be logicboy?

Logic Mind: they resort to insults when they lose arguments

This is about winning argument to you but it is about winning your soul to me.

logicboy: The bible calls athiests fools an you agreed, heck you even said that it could apply to all Americans if they didnt believe in god when I asked you about Japan being 64% atheist.


You can try and deny it but you just keep looking foolish.


The laptop/computer that you use is made by people who dont believe in Jesus (Windows- Bill Gates, Apple- Steve Jobs, assembly- China). This website is owned by an atheist, yet you call atheist fools.


Everyone can see that you are losing.

LOL...How does that change anything? Even if they made the plane, they have failed to realize that they were created and therefore fail to acknowledge their MAKER so that makes them fools. That is on the pretext that they are atheists as you claim. Nothing changes

logicboy: Just like I said, when proven wrong you keep running back to your failed belief- symptoms of an enslaved mind.


The bible tells you to call people fools and you believe it's the thing to do. Do you really believe that Bill Gates is a fool or Mark Zuckerberg is a fool?

Can you really go and call people fools to their faces or are you just a hypocritical coward that only gets the courage to call people fools on the internet?


So, a child born into a an atheist family in Europe is a fool? The child grows up to be an atheist and he is a fool? Is that not the same way you and many people are christians but you arent fools because you were born into the right family?


If you blieve everything that the old testament tells you to do, then why dont you apart from calling people fools, why dont you stone homosexuals?

Funny guy...Do you think Mark Zuckerberg or Bill Gates is bigger than GOD and the Bible? You think I can't insult Bill Gates and Zuckerberg but think you can insult GOD?

You keep saying I am calling you a fool but you have failed to realized that it was the Bible that said so. How many times do I have to drum that into your skull?

JESUS is waiting for you to make that big decision. HE loves you and want you to come to HIM and be saved!

[quote author=st.okolie]volution" mixes two things together, one real, one imaginary. Variation (microevolution) is the real part. The types of bird beaks, the colors of moths, leg sizes, etc. are variation. Each type and length of beak a finch can have is already in the gene pool and adaptive mechanisms of finches. Creationists have always agreed that there is variation within species. What evolutionists do not want you to know is that there are strict limits to variation that are never crossed, something every breeder of animals or plants is aware of. Whenever variation is pushed to extremes by selective breeding (to get the most milk from cows, sugar from beets, bristles on fruit flies, or any other characteristic), the line becomes sterile and dies out. And as one characteristic increases, others diminish. But evolutionists want you to believe that changes continue, merging gradually into new kinds of creatures. This is where the imaginary part of the theory of evolution comes in. It says that new information is added to the gene pool by mutation and natural selection to create frogs from fish, reptiles from frogs, and mammals from reptiles, to name a few.

Do these big changes (macroevolution) really happen? Evolutionists tell us we cannot see evolution taking place because it happens too slowly. A human generation takes about 20 years from birth to parenthood. They say it took tens of thousands of generations to form man from a common ancestor with the ape, from populations of only hundreds or thousands. We do not have these problems with bacteria. A new generation of bacteria grows in as short as 12 minutes or up to 24 hours or more, depending on the type of bacteria and the environment, but typically 20 minutes to a few hours. There are more bacteria in the world than there are grains of sand on all of the beaches of the world (and many grains of sand are covered with bacteria). They exist in just about any environment: hot, cold, dry, wet, high pressure, low pressure, small groups, large colonies, isolated, much food, little food, much oxygen, no oxygen, in toxic chemicals, etc. There is much variation in bacteria. There are many mutations (in fact, evolutionists say that smaller organisms have a faster mutation rate than larger ones16). But they never turn into anything new. They always remain bacteria. Fruit flies are much more complex than already complex single-cell bacteria. Scientists like to study them because a generation (from egg to adult) takes only 9 days. In the lab, fruit flies are studied under every conceivable condition. There is much variation in fruit flies. There are many mutations. But they never turn into anything new. They always remain fruit flies. Many years of study of countless generations of bacteria and fruit flies all over the world shows that evolution is not happening today.[/quote]Quite thoughtful!

Logic Mind: well, if the bible said it it must be true. you seem not to understand and keep trolling. people outside your congregation don't give a hoot about your bible except exposing its ridiculous content. if i told you a book i found under a bed said that anybody whose name contains mouse is a zoophile, tell me one reason that will change anything for you? ... exactly!

That will be a valid reference for me

[quote author=emöfine2]It's one thing I've always pondered about in Christianity. Having diversity in a shared belief is not something I deem as necessarily conflicting or contradictory but when it appears that believers of the same professed god are disunited in one faith there appears something amiss. Some denominations are antithetical to one another some even claim to be more righteous and it is such that makes one wonder about the directions these churches are going.
Different bibles, different religious personnels, different rules etc.
Do some denominations exist solely to sabotage? Which denomination(s) is genuine?
I imagine such exercise to be pretty confusing for a person who is seeking to adopt a faith....if such person chooses Christianity after surveying through which religion to adopt, the next job is to find out which denomination one should assume [/quote]Emo, it is unfortunate but inevitable. For instance, I am a Methodist and there are a lot of things I don't agree with my own denomination. One of such things is that i don't see the reason why my tithe should be recorded. I see tithe as something personal and my left hand should not even know about what I placed in my right hand. However, my Church insist. Since this is not something that threatens my going to HEAVEN, I oblige.

Most of the issues that separate us as Christians can be attributed to small differences in basic Bible interpretations. This should be expected because JESUS made it clear that only the HOLY SPIRIT is the spirit of truth and can bring out the truth in the scriptures.

My personal advise to you is that read the Bible and pray to the HOLY SPIRIT for discernment. That is a sure way to have personal relationship with GOD which will not be based on any denomination.

Logic Mind: do you now believe in evolution? god causes evolution?
pleeaaaase.

That is where you are wrong logic mind. GOD created the planet and everything therein so whatever we find out was created by HIM. Science has never created anything and that fact is acknowledged by the term "discovery."

The full meaning of that word is that the thing is already there but it was just dis-covered (was previously covered). The best evidence that we were created can be found in the fact that our abilities are finite. We only try to explain things and most of the time, we end up coming back with another explanation.

Logic mind, I seriously believe that the world is fast coming to an end and we do not have much time. You really need to take a careful look at life again. There are more reasons to believe that there is a GOD than not to. I am ready to help you out in any way that you might need me but please run for your soul!

Logic Mind: Yes. If you put bacteria under a microscope and add a little penicilin, although some of them will die, you can actually "observe" the rest for days changing and adapting to what is a great threat to their life. if you continue applying tiny amounts of penicilin, over a period of time, months, sometimes weeks, they (the offsprings) would have "evolved" to a new type of bacteria that is completely immune to penicilin because they transfer resistant genes to their offsprings.

that's what we all do. we evolve by transfering adaptative genes to our offsprings. and it is an extremely slow process.

And what caused that mutation capabilities?

FATHER I bless YOU today. Please forgive my sins and wash me in YOUR precious blood

OLAADEGBU: Be Instant
April 18, 2012

"Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine" (2 Timothy 4:2)

Paul's "charge" to young Timothy, just before the great apostle's martyrdom, was urgently needed by Christians in those early days of persecution and incipient apostasy, and his words are even more appropriate today.

The admonition to "be instant" is worth special note. The Greek word ephistemi is translated in various ways ("be present," "be at hand," "come upon," etc.). The main idea is simply to be there, doing what needs to be done at the time it is needed. In this particular context it is stressing the Christian's responsibility to be there with the right words from the Word of God--words of exhortation, of doctrine, of reproof if needed, yet words given patiently, even when rebuffed by the hearer. "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man" (Colossians 4:6).

Furthermore, the charge applies not only to those times when we are officially on duty, so to speak. It applies to off-hours as well as work time. Be instant out-of-season, as well as inseason! The Christian must always be "on call" when God calls.

The apostle could rightly issue such a charge because he himself had set such an example. "I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith: . . . thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience" (2 Timothy 4:7; 3:10). It is touching that Paul could then use the same word (ephistemi) concerning his own coming death, when he said, "I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand" (2 Timothy 4:6). He was as ready to die as he had always been to speak, for the Lord! HMM

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May the LORD help our weakness and strengthen our faith!

naslinks: MEDITATION OF THE DAY(John 3:16-21)
THEME:The Unfailing Redemptive Love of God

Do you know the love which surpasses all else? A true lover holds nothing back but gives the best that can be offered, even everything in their possession for the beloved. God proved his love for us by giving us the best he had to offer – his only begotten Son who freely gave himself as an offering to God for our sake and as the atoning sacrifice for our sin and the sin of the world. Abraham's willing sacrifice of his only son, Isaac prefigures the perfect offering and sacrifice of God's beloved Son, our Lord Jesus Christ. This passage in the gospel of John tells us of the great breadth and width of God's love. Not an excluding love for just a few or for a single nation, but a redemptive love that embraces the whole world, and a personal love for each and every individual whom God has created. God is a loving Father who cannot rest until his wandering children have returned home to him. Saint Augustine says, God loves each one of us as if there were only one of us to love. God gives us the freedom to choose whom and what we will love.
 
Jesus shows us the paradox of love and judgment. We can love the darkness of sin and unbelief or we can love the light of God's truth, beauty, and goodness. If our love is guided by what is true, and good and beautiful then we will choose for God and love him above all else. What we love shows what we prefer. Do you love God above all else? Does he take first place in your life, in your thoughts, and actions?
 
PRAYER:"Lord Jesus Christ, your love is better than life itself. May your love consume and transform my life that I may desire you above all else. Help me to love what you love, to desire what you desire, and to reject what you reject."

Amen!

Great prayer....

Live beyond reproach, that should be our principle as Christians.

All the signs indicate that the end of the world is very near. I urge every Believer to hold on to the faith because only those who stand to the end will be rewarded.

I pray that we will all end up in the bosom of our LORD JESUS CHRIST!

logicboy: @Rastamouse.

I see that you have become emotionally unstable, abusive and unreasonably angry because you have 3 people on your thread that are exposing you for your hypocrisy on christianity. I dont blame you, its cognitive dissonace. There are people who get proven wrong but it only makes them go further into their wrong belief. They try to reduce the two contradictory aspects of their belief. For instance, lets look at God's freewill;

Why do I have the feeling that logicboy is the same as bigd4050 ? Well that is up to you.

Going on your response, I must say that I underestimated your folly. Are you saying that I insulted atheists or the Bible says so? In any case, what arguments are you talking about? As far as I know, there has been no debate between me and anyone here...period.

What happened is that people will ask for my opinion and I give it. Tell me if the Bible did not call atheists fools.

logicboy: Jesus is nothing but a fraud, Jesus did not sacrifice himself on the cross, he can not die since he is god. If Jesus is god, ther was no need for him to go through the crucifixion

Look at an atheist pretending to know spiritual things . JESUS decided as a GOD to come down and save mankind. Since there can never be redemption of sin without the shedding of blood, HE chose to give the ultimate sacrifice

logicboy: Your bible is the biggest hypocrite;

Mark 3:25 If a house is divided against itself, that house cannot stand


So much for the divisions in christianity!

What is the division? When did differing opinions become division? Atheists and wisdom...two worlds apart

bigd4050: That's exactly the problem. There should be an agreement or Christians look like a bunch of chickens with their heads cut off.

Human minds cannot fully comprehend the scriptures so we have divine revelations and those who use carnality. That will continue to bring disagreements. Disagreements in itself is not bad because it will help us to grow as a society. However when it is not handled properly, then it can mar us.

bigd4050: And you wonder why I say you troll. That's what you pulled out of that whole post? And you wonder why I say I smashed you. I gotta get going its 4 a.m. by me. Till tomorrow

As I said, keep tickling yourself and bye. Cya later

bigd4050: I agree Christians should be ashamed of themselves for this happening, because they are supposed to be unified.

Why do you say hypocrisy is the dealbreaker?

Are you serious? Since when has men ever agreed on things of religion? Do you know what happened in the early church?

bigd4050: Really? Your going to get all uppity on one point after I've been smashing you in every other thread on every other point? You are unbelievably arrogant in yourself. I'm no novice I simply don't understand the point that you are trying to make, that is why I want you to explain it. I know Scripture pretty well.

YOU ARE STILL NOT UNDERSTANDING MY POINT AT ALL. The point is not about when people are saved. If their heart is genuine, they could be saved as they take their last breath. But under the context of someone purposely waiting their whole life to repent, it doesn't make logical sense that they would be saved. Their heart motivation is not truly there. Even demons can know God exists, but they don't serve God, so they won't be saved. The same with the person who knows God exists but doesn't want to serve him at all, they just want to utter "forgive me" at the end, and they think they will skate right into heaven. That's such a cheapening of salvation.

Keep tickling yourself

[quote author=Okija_juju]By this your holy Spirit intuition, Blow-jobs should also be a sin, same thing as a'nal sex with your wife.[/quote]You do anal sex with your wife ? We my conscience definetely tells me that is very wrong. Have you considered the health implications?