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ramalot: No sir, i just typed it out of common sense. FYI no human being holds the big b@ng as some Law or fact. That is something called a "THEORY"
A theory creates a framework to put together pieces of unknowns as they unfold through further findings.

It is a position of quest for knowledge, not an easy way out like religion that claims 'fact' on 100% unfounded grounds.

Do you know if you take your iphone 4s into the Amazon jungle, and have first contact with a lost tribe, all you need to be elevated to god status will be to
run a quick demo of your 'face time' feature? now you're a great god who can be in one place, and yet be, and talk to them through this sacred 3.5 inch portal. OMNIPRESENCE i tell ya!

Ignorance and fear are the driving elements of religion. And yes, i think everything has a cause like we both agree, now tell me how exactly you KNOW that your god is exempt from a cause.

Ram, I would have loved it if your quest was to genuinely learn about GOD. This is a great opportunity to get a personal relationship with GOD.

Check this analogy out...since you used iPhone 4s, I will do the same thing with the analogy.

Imagine yourself being an iPhone 4s and not human for a moment( of course you are not iPhone 4s). wouldn't it be silly to suggest that because you never knew how Steve Jobs was born, or more appropriately created, then that places you in the same league as him?

Are you saying no one created you because you can't understand your MAKER? GOD is too much for us to understand but if you really want to know HIM, this is my challenge to you...Accept JESUS CHRIST as your savior and LORD.

Doing that will get you to Heaven and you can ask GOD about how HE came about. How do you like that challenge?

That is bad..but hey it happens. Great effort from NOI

Where is Tupac now? No what I meant to ask is ...if you die, where will you be?

seanet02: Thank God i am not a [size=50pt]GHANIAN[/size]

Logic Mind: so why the ffuck did he create uranus?

What do you know about the universe? What makes you think that because we (mankind) does not have answers to why the other planets were created that they are not necessary? It just proves that SOMEONE WHO is much wiser than we are went to work some time ago.

ramalot: WOW!! just WOW! one can only marvel at the level of ignorance some exhibit.
So, in your infinite wisdom, you lack the common sense to figure why there are no 'known' living things on mercury or Uranus?
Its obvious you think with the latter, but i'll fill you in my friend.

If earth was repositioned to mercury regions, do you think there would be anything left on earth? NO.
If you throw seeds randomly in the air, and one lands on fertile soil, another on concrete, and another in water, the one on soil would probably germinate, the one on concrete would likely die off, and the one in water might survive into a water plant.

the fact that this happens practically all the time, does not mean the source of these seeds (maybe you) is some kinda jedi master god, it just so happens the conditions favored some of the seeds better, and some adapted accordingly.

So, back to the initial point; if your argument is based on this awesome placement mumbo jumbo, then it is safe to say whoever positioned the elements of the universe did a horrible job. Seeing as most of these planets can not support life as we know it, owing to their horrible positions in relation to the sun. FAIL.

Did you just read what you mumbled down? How does your big ban.g nonsense explain the positioning of the planets? Who made the conditions? CERN have tried for decades to replicate the big bang. If the theory that they so much propagate is correct and right, why do they keep failing each time? Do you honestly believe that the big ban.g can explain how the ocean came about? Are you aware that the sea defies all the logic of the big bang nonsense?

Please think and know that everything has a cause CREATOR

OLAADEGBU: "Likewise, I say to you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repents" (Luke 15:10).

See who else brought joy in the presence of angels in heaven in the thread below:

https://www.nairaland.com/177061/new-testimony-thread

My bro...so many Angels are rejoicing over you as well. Keep holding on to your faith and in the end, you will be amazed at the number of Angels who will come and meet you at the gate of Heaven

ea7: oh my God!!! Like you don't mean it!!! Can we go on a date can i meet him personally? What's that, he wants me to accept his love freely first, but has an eternal oven for me if i decline. Gets that okay then. Smh.

The evidence of HIS love for you is the reason why you are alive despite the many insults that you have given HIM. Take HIS call and be saved!

[quote author=Okija_juju]Psalm 104.

14 He makes grass grow for the cattle,
and plants for people to cultivate—
bringing forth food from the earth:
15 wine that gladdens human hearts,
oil to make their faces shine,
and bread that sustains their hearts[/quote]Okija

You are very wrong on that. Wine has a deep history in the Bible. When GOD ordered that no Nazerite should drink wine, it was for a purpose. If you had honestly answered my question, it will have been obvious to you that unless for medical purpose, the only craving for wine is to get drunk...and that is a sin.

Why will any sane Christian, knowing that there are several levels of faith among us, encourage that people should drink and smoke?

[quote author=Okija_juju]Coogar!! (i love your User I.d)

NOW!! I'm sorry but that wasnt blasphemy at all.

If Jesus drank wine then I see no reason why he couldnt change water into wine. It was a wedding for christ sakes and if Jesus came to fulfill the law, then we could say what he did fell in line with "Ecclesiastes 9:7, “Drink your wine with a merry heart.”". I absolutely agree that were these things become a sin is when we do it in excess. There are several scriptures in the bible that supports and encourages the drinking of alcohol.

Again, Scripture does not forbid Christians from drinking beer, wine, or any other drink containing alcohol. Alcohol is not, in and of itself, tainted by sin. It is drunkenness and addiction to alcohol that a Christian must absolutely refrain from (Ephesians 5:18; 1 Corinthians 6:12).


Halleluyah!!

Pastor Alusi Okija[/quote]Why will anyone drink alcohol, except for medicals reason?

[quote author=Okija_juju]WTF are you going on about biko?! I am lost![/quote] of course you will be lost. You don't have the discerning spirit...sorry

afam4eva: What has Jesus drinking from the wine got to do with what wesley asked you? While would Jesus turn water to wine if it was a sin to drink wine.

Afam just drop it and know that you are out of this topic. In any case, we should never even pretend that we know all about the Bible. Will you want to go into that feast at Cana? Why will JESUS address HIS mother as "woman"? Why will JESUS say that it was not HIS time? If that was the first miracle of JESUS CHRIST, how did Mary know that HE could do something about the wine?

Be careful when you read the Bible because it is a sharp two-edged sword that can harm you if handled in the wrong way. Just drop out of this conversation and admit that Pastor Chris got it wrong this time around. He is a great Bible teacher but he goofed real big this time around.

ea7: pot calling kettle black. You are a fool.

JESUS loves you

Atheist can only come up with dumb explanation on this thread. They have no sensible explanation to offer.

Afam you are one of the ones I really respect on this forum. You are great but please stop dragging this because it is obvious that you are confused.

Let's pray for our brothers in these countries. Persecution was promised by JESUS

wesley80: Oh so you mean Christ turned water into wine to get all those good people drunk at the wedding? Seriously now.

Did JESUS drink some of the wine?

As much as Christians earn salvation (its a gift), we also have a responsibility to live right. Unless one is holy, there is no way that person can see GOD and GOD of course is in HEAVEN

I read he is going to marry again

afam4eva: Who drinks alcohol to get drunk?

Afam I think you are confused. Come back later

afam4eva: Do you know that too much of water makes you drunk. Does that mean drinking water is a sin?

You know that what you said is just half the truth. The whole ocean cannot get you drunk if you don't have a hangover from the prior night. Intoxication is not always equal to being drunk.

afam4eva: Do you know that too much of water makes you drunk. Does that mean drinking water is a sin?

Do you drink water with the intention to get drunk ? What logic is that? Why will anyone drink alcohol?

I believe that marriage should be experienced for one to be in a better position to advise. There are so many variables in marriage that can never be learnt from books. If you are not married, you can advise but I think you are not better qualified in that regard.

italo: Drinking alcohol is not as sin; getting drunk is.
As eating is not a sin but gluttony is.

Smoking is not necessarily a sin but its a bad habit.
As staying too close to the TV is not necessarily a sin but a bad habit.

Except for medical reasons, why would any sane person want to drink alcohol when he does not intend to be drunk? When is one considered drunk? Is it only when his speech is blurred? No one should deceive him or herself. We have the right to everything but it is not everything that is good for us.

When Lamuel's mother was advising him in Proverbs 31:4, she stated that it is not good for kings and princes to drink wine. Note that she did not say to get drunk but to drink wine. Before anyone asks, let me point out that we Christians are Princes in the Kingdom of GOD.

Paul also pointed to us that our bodies are the Temple of the LORD. Why must we defile it with alcohol and cigarette when the LORD intends to stay in our heart.

Alcohol and smoking is not for us Christians!

I believe tithing is a personal stuff. I honestly think that tithing brings blessings (personal experience). Anytime I tithe, the difference it brings in my life, especially financial, is so glaring. When I choose not to, I also see the effects. Most of the time, I do my best to tithe.

It is true that some of our tithes end up funding so unpalatable lifestyle by some pastors but that is not supposed to be my problem. Tithing is not tax. I am not required to get the pastor to account for the tithe that I pay (at least the Bible did not give me the power to do so). However, I believe that GOD will be the right judge to demand some answers from those who abuse the money meant to be shared among the poor, widow and the pastor.

As I said, tithing is personal to me and I will continue to pay it!

More people are seeing the LIGHT on nairaland. The LORD will always show HIMSELF to those HE wills. https://www.nairaland.com/358975/denounce-atheism-now-born-again

PRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAISE the LORD..........GOD will always make HIMSELF real to those HE wills!

I am very happy that people are seeing the truth!

Has Pastor Chris read in the Bible that drunks will not be in Heaven? How do you get drunk?

Well well well well...it is not as it seems! More souls are being won than lost! GOD knows the people that HE has called and none of them will be lost. My advise to all believers is that they should stay on tight and never lose their faith because it is only those who endure to the end that will be crowned.

To all those who have lost their faith along the way, all I can say is that Remember your first LOVE!

@ Martian

May the LORD forgive you for altering my words in your quote. May HE really forgive you!

Purist: First error in this thought process is the assumption that there IS something that lies outside this life. Perhaps, you could put forward a research methodology to help investigate what you think lies outside this life? Maybe we could start with that; who knows, we might just stumble on something.

My brother, whether you believe in GOD or not, I must tell you that HE loves you. At least you are still alive and that is the greatest proof of what I am talking about.

However if you intend to jump out of the plane without a parachute (JESUS), hoping that gravity does not exist, good luck on that assumption. Like the other wise scientist, I am warning you that gravity exist and you need the best parachute (JESUS) to survive the fall!

My bro, take a look at yourself in the mirror and that should be enough evidence to the love that the CREATOR of Heaven and earth have for you. GOD loves you and so do I, please don't leave careless!

Purist: What kind of scientist visits a planet without proper research and investigation? Your analogy is deeply flawed.

The way you religionists come up with daft analogies nowadays really baffles the mind. First, it was that dude citing Pascal's wager. Now this? And you wonder why people don't take you lot seriously?

What kind of man will not do proper research and investigation about what lies outside this life, knowing that he will die someday? The wise will hear and note, but the fool will laugh and scorn.