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@joshthefirst, explain this:
1 Corinthians 13 vs 6: Love does not delight in evil


Lovely God: ( Isaiah 45:7, KJV) - "I form the light, and create
darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the
LORD do all these things."

Joshthefirst: Yes, God has all those qualities, and as elantracey said, he has more. Let us be balanced. God is love, but that does not mean he doesn't have a sense of right and wrong.
He is also a consuming fire, it is a fearful thing to fall into his hands.

It is glaring to anybody that reads the bible with an objective mind, God as portrayed in the bible doesn't have those qualities. His bible stands against him

FOLYKAZE: If Egypt had been a green pasture, they wouldn't have complained. When their ancestors were enjoying in Egypt as a resort for the great famine, nobody complained to God so when it turn around, they protested to God for return to their original home. Also, God didn't instruct moses to infiltrate and start killing Egyptians.....he wanted to revolt somewhere.

Despite their suffering, they never contemplated on suicide.

Erm...Gen 12:10 mentioned famine....pls is famine merry feast or what made Abraham travel to Egypt?

He didn't commit suicide either.

The same apply to christians on earth today. Go to the hospitals, they are there with different diseases. Visit the countries of the world, the economy is beating them like donkey. The muslims are slaughtering christians like christmas chicken and many share the fate of the natural disasters. Many were killed in war between two countries....this is the prophecy for the end time in the bible.

Christians are not the only ones going through all these. Try another lie.

Now when the world is against you....why cant you do like Israelite and change your course back home? Or you dont have heaven home you can return to?

The Israelites moved from one physical location to another, they never committed mass suicide.

thanks for bringing your Jesus that low.

Jesus had authority over death.....yes or no?

Jesus had chance of saving himself.....yes or no?

He healed, resurrectted and cast demon with words.....he also killed himself with words (do you see the tool he used for killing himself? Words). Jesus ordered storm to cease and plant to stop having fruit and it happened..... And he said......'unto your hands I lay my life' - wanted and wished to die so he prompted and ordered the termination of his life. THIS IS SUICIDE.

Words don't kill people, people kill people. Jesus didn't commit suicide.

I know whats in the bible.....same way I know the story of santa.

Maybe you should seek the difference between know and believe.

Do you believe it to be true? or do you know that it is false?

fine..... You dont want heaven....you want to endure serious suffering? If you got home, you wouldn't prefer prison over it. Definately no home for christians except in their thinking and mind. Heaven is fictional place. Koo

Are you absolutely sure about this?

Considering your question...it not about your believe, it about the law of nature. You cant bend it.

what is the law of nature?

I speak on what I read in the bible. This is the box where christian mentality are kept. So I should guess you dont know about heaven....just dreaming about it. Lol.

And you know about heaven?

If heaven is reality, bring in the prodigal son story. You are sleeping with pigs while soften golden bed is in your father's house.....son go back to your dad. Stop wandering like child of no father on earth while heaven is perfected for you.

Hahaha, bad (really bad) analogy. BTW, I'm not a Christian.

Ajibam: Nigerians are not the only one in this forum...if it doesn't concerns you just pass away from it...

Majority are Nigerians and those that celebrate Halloween don't give a hoot about your opinion

FOLYKAZE: oh yeah....you ignore israelite and moses. Good dodge.

Moses and the Israelites left when their God told them to otherwise they were fine where they were. You can tell from their complaints when they were cornered by the Egyptians

And Jesus said 'in your hand I lay my life'...immediately, he gave up ghost.

Maybe you should understand that he requested his life cease and ordered the termination. This is suicide.

This isn't suicide. Okay take this for example, someone gets shot once, knowing fully well that he/she is about to die, the person makes the same statement as Jesus and then dies, is this suicide?

the bible said satan rule the world....quit dancing around.

You don't believe in the bible so you have no point to make.

escapism 101

you asked me question and you were answered. Can you do the same now or you got nothing to offer? By the way what is the meaning of the above, any relation with my statement?

I already told you why it is stewpeeed to commit suicide to quicken your passage to heaven. You are still going to die anyway, why kill yourself when you can grow old and die a peaceful death? regarding the other part of your post, you asked people to die and go to heaven but you don't believe that this heaven exists, you believe that you will be reincarnated. My question is, do different things happen to different individuals at death based on what they believed while alive?

Heaven is a place where the flood is made of gold, have mansions and no suffering....the earth case is different so why cant you die and go to heaven? Simple question

You speak like you have been to heaven before. I'll die when I'll die, you shouldn't ask people to commit suicide for something they are unsure of.

Nigerians don't celebrate Halloween.
These are the holidays that Nigerian Christians shouldn't celebrate since they are based on pagan holidays.
In no particular order

Christmas
New year

and

Easter

Elantracey: He has more dan dat

Good, can you explain God's actions in 2 Samuel 24 in relation to his love? He made David take a census of the Israelites and then killed scores of those Israelites for the crime of being counted. He had a change of heart after seeing the destruction (and he's supposed to be omniscient)

FOLYKAZE: are you ready to deal with the question on ground or you want to dance around bush?

I showed you how people in the bible change their settlement when they were suffering. Earth is filled with evil, change your settlement.....afterall your God made home for you.

You didn't show me anything. Abraham never left his initial location because of suffering (where did you get that?), he left because his God told him to. How is this even related to your heaven/suicide thingy?

Jesus had power not to die on cross or disappear but he said unto your hand I lay my life....immediately he died, whats that?

Dude, check the meaning of suicide again. Accepting death when it comes isn't suicide.

You do cuz it the founding ground of your faith....deal with the concerned question.

the question was directed at you. I said that this world is ruled by man but you said it is ruled by satan and you backed it up with the bible hence my question

I have no heaven or where to turn to. Even according to Yoruba spirituality, life is a cycle and consciousness is reborn...so if I run, I will surely come back.

You have a better place....why are you still here?

So you believe that something different happens to each individual at death based on their belief while alive. Interesting.

Elantracey: wat do u tink

We'll get to that later (my answer that is). Do you honestly believe that God (as portrayed in the bible) has those qualities mentioned in 1 Corinthians 13 vs 4 - 7

FOLYKAZE: oh yeah....why did Abraham moved away from his fatherland to another place chosen by God for him? Looking for greener pasture huh? And the Israelite were crying to God because they enjoying and enduring suffering in Egypt right?

What are you on about?

Jesus could have save himself from been killed but wanted to form hero and martyr....isn't that suicide?

Suicide involves taking one's own life, did Jesus take his own life?

Show me where the bible said man rule the world. I think it was man that took jesus to the top of synagogue and present to him kingdom of the world.....if the kingdom belong to another person, jesus would have counter.

do you hold the bible to be the absolute truth?

What is it to enjoy in life? Disease epidemic, low food production, crime, injustice, economic instabilities, terrorism, natural disaster or the ups and down in the countries? The bible said all is nothing but chasing of wind so why wasting your time chasing wind all around? Isn't that out of sense for a grown man to chase wind?

If you believe that life isn't worth it, why haven't you committed suicide yet?

nwuyag: I understand you, maybe the op should have been in this form "if xtians believe in better happy sinless heaven, why are they not eager and anxious to leave this their so called sinful and wicked world?"

That might have been better. But it would be wrong to think that Christians are not eager to leave this world, I've personally met a few that are quite willing to die to meet up with their maker (not by committing suicide though).

@op, you said that God is love and according to the bible, this is the definition of love:
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1 Corinthians 13:4-7
New International Version (NIV)


4 Love is patient, love is kind. It
does not envy, it does not boast, it
is not proud. 5 It does not
dishonor others, it is not self-
seeking, it is not easily angered, it
keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love
does not delight in evil but
rejoices with the truth. 7 It always
protects, always trusts, always
hopes, always perseveres.

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Do you honestly think that the God of the bible has these qualities?

aManFromMars: strange thread..

@Alfa: try sending an sms to God. I hear dem don install bbm for heaven.

Give me the pin ASAP

@alfa,
- what do these spirits look like?
- HOW exactly are they tormenting you?
- why do you think you are being tormented?
and........
God does not visit nairaland, take your threats somewhere else (maybe the astral plane or something like that)

FOLYKAZE: When the journey is not favouring you, kindly return home......can you break in some sense into this?

Many christian cult did this....other religion are doing it. So why cant you do it and save yourself from this suffering on earth ruled by satan?

Committing suicide is not the answer for Christians. Everybody dies and sooner or later they will also die, there is no point in hastening your death. Enjoy life, live it to the fullest for the earth isn't ruled by satan, it is ruled by man and we alone hold the key to ending our suffering(s).

How will you advice people to commit suicide because you don't like their belief system? As if Christians are the problem with this world.

I don't think people actually sat down together to create the different religions of the world. Most of the founders never really intended to start a religion and the remaining others would have actually believed that god was backing them to create it.

Good to know that this project is still moving forward. Seems we have all agreed with the 'goats revolt' storyline, cool!. Lemme think up some missions......

Since we are still throwing out random game stories, how about this?
Chase am!
You just finished eating your favorite meal of bread and ewa agoyin at mama Basirat's canteen. You enjoyed the meal so much, you decide to take some home with you.
On your way home, a lunatic approaches you and asks you to give him the food but you refuse, he snatches the food from you and begins to run, you immediately chase after him screaming "ole!"
Now you have to chase him all over Lagos to get your food back.
......,...................... . ........................................
You could start the chase from Mushin and you could catch him at the end of the stage after which you give him the beating of his life. The last stage could be at let's say Ikeja. For each stage, you introduce a new place in Lagos and during the game, you get power ups like screaming at the top of your voice to get a few policemen to join in the chase for a limited time, you can also throw eba at him and if you miss, he taunts you.
You could also get a power up that gives you super speed for a limited time or something that enables you to bounce for a long distance.
For each stage, you are given particular objectives that you have to pass before the end of each stage.
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@Jivi, your goat revolts storyline is hilarious.

Joshthefirst: what is vague and incompetent about us and themessage?
How is us telling you that you are condemned to damnation in hell for eternity because of your sin vague? Am I missing something?

You confirm the message I just wrote

2 timothy 3
1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

How exactly have I confirmed your message? Nothing in the verse quoted applies to me. Still it carries no real message, have men not always been like that?

Every type of sexual activity is a sin. Mouth action is actually the worst kind because when you go to hell, the devil will particularly give you a head and it is not something you wanna experience. He's particularly very bad (in the real sense of the word) at it.

...Edited

Funny how god operates from the sidelines sending vague messages through incompetent humans. God should save himself from sin first before trying to save the people that created him.

How about this for a story line?
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After many years, it is discovered that Sango fathered a child secretly with one of his maids (who he loved more than his wives). This child is preserved in a secret tomb and he is destined to one day rule the kingdom of Oyo. You are one of the warriors given the task to protect this child until the predestined time.

However, Oba and Osun, the wives of the god, get to learn of this information and are angered. They decide to make an unholy alliance in order to eliminate the child. With their god-like powers, they begin to terminate Sango's mortal warriors until you are the only one left.

Being warned by a diviner, you are able to escape death from the angry goddesses. But all is not safe for you yet, you have to make a treacherous journey to the secret location of the child to do what you were meant to do, protect the future king!

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shey I try?

[quote author=CODE-EATER]Dudes....we forgetting one of our own....


Captain Afrikka!!

Super hero in Vanguard newspaper[/quote]Yeah, what ideas do you have with that one?

Jivi: Yes, you can learn programming while working on this project.

Great! when do we get started?

hmmn, I'm tempted to try this stuff out.

Many thanks to @Wiegraf for linking me to this thread. @Jivi, kudos for starting this and if you can successfully follow through with your plan, it will be the beginning of greater things. Now, while I don't have any programming experience, I've always wanted to do something like this (was planning to do so in my next life sha). I could probably contribute with some story lines but I would prefer to be where the action is so would it be possible for me to learn programming while working with you on this project? (please, reply)

Have you been to all churches in the world before making such a bogus claim? Well, in my church, ladies don't open their head because it's impossible to do that without surgery.

^^^ kolo alert!!!

I eagerly anticipate my death.

Umm, they stand a few miles apart and they speak in other tongues. The loudest group wins, that is why angel Michael defeated Satan, he had more angels so they generated more noise.