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Mescopaul: A true believer has a provision made in which he can know if the devil or God is speaking, and John said it all in 1 John 4:1-3Blah blah blah... with all due respect, your words have no meaning to me. |
Mescopaul: You're right, anyone who profess to know and believe on God must have his words and deeds in the same direction.Too late, you already jumped the gun. Take a glance below: Mescopaul: Nothin much to say here. As long as they refuse to retain God in their hearts, God has given them up to reprobate minds.All I see from the post are God, God, God words and foul, foul, foul deeds. And now, unwittingly you contradicted your earlier post by preaching tolerance... Take a look at the red highlighted sir, that's you. |
Mescopaul: As believers our assurance lies on the redemptive work of our saviour on the cross.If I were not a realist, I would believe in a God who would choose to save people on the basis of the totality of their lives and not the pattern of their words. I think he would prefer an honest and righteous atheist to a Christian preacher whose every word is God, God, God, and whose every deed is foul, foul, foul. |
Ajibam: yes...if I don't know the purpose he created me for how will I succeed in doing it?You don't know the purpose he created you for, you say, how then were you so certain that god is somewhere up there? Okay, I know the usual excuses: that he speaks to you directly, right? One problem with that though. Only, when it is the devil talking he will tell you he is god,for the devil is a crafty liar. So you might in truth be worshipping Alfa's Satan in disguise, don't you think? |
Ajibam: and what if mine is different?It's never different, that's the whole point. You are so certain that Jesus loves you for being Christian, but with the same breath, you condemn those that doesn't share the same faith with you. |
aManFromMars: The first joke was an unmarried virgin giving birth to God. Na there the whole joke start.Nah...that wasn't the first. The first joke was when god created the centre of the universe, Earth before creating sources of lights, Sun and Moon to be it's satellites. It's right there in Genesis chapter one. |
Ajibam: I am justified by the holy spirit that gives me the assurance ...I distrust those people who knows so well what god wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires. |
Delusion at it's peak... |
RationalDude: Most times, I just get amazed at what humans can do. Seeing how far we have gone in science & technology, art etc etc, sometimes I just think that there might be much at work here than just evolution.Nothing more, mate. It's all as a result of evolution in all it's glory. |
dejilg: atleast it accounts for a Grand Designer which accounts for reasoning and our inherent sense of morality and why most rocks and our shoes dnt speak to us and many other things Science can't answer!!! I will only believe in Evolution when I can see any man created thing or object that is more complex than man himself!You surely do live in ignorance and nightmare and mistaken it for a way of life! To become a religion, it is necessary for a superstition to enslave a philosophy. The way to see by faith is to shut the eyes of reason. The Christians live in nightmares and think it's a pleasant dream indeed! SMH for people like you... |
dejilg: Oh look at me! Am a computer and I happened by chance/accident, wen d plastic industry, chemical lab and the black smith's workplace suddenly blow and mix together! And my friend is dictionary because the ink in d printing press exploded on the paper! ---- Evolution crap!Your creation myth is no better. |
I never knew our mother earth was such a shameless moon poacher, so what else is new? ![]() |
Reyginus: Okay. But you know this is not Darwins concept of Evolution. He saw Evolution as purely a change in structure constituting in higher function. The two must operate in unison. You don't agree with him then?A lot of modern evolutionist don't agree with Darwin. |
Reyginus: Now you want to take us back. Didn't it occur to you that before function changes the form must first change? If there is no change in form, how then is the psyche stage negotiated without a change taking place?You misunderstood me. When I said psyche, I meant the intellect side of evolution. For man to transform physically which is another step to physical part of evolution, he must complete the present stage (becoming more intelligent through experience), which is the only way he can falicitate the advent of the next chapter. Note, physical evolution is exceedingly slow process, and might take up to a million years to occur. |
dejilg: For real? Growing is a form of evolution? Well if that's all to evolution then I have no problem with it...but that "baby" will only pass through d phase his ancestors passed thro'. No more no less! The baby doesn't develop wings or anythin at all...the ancestors ddnt evolve frm ape or wateva! They have remained as human as we are now! You also mentioned plato as evolved past his own time...but wud u agree to me saying that "I can walk on water"?*Yawns* |
Reyginus: Then we can not say that what we experienced was Evolution. Evolution as we know it in this case must be biological for it to make sense in the light of Darwin's theory. I don't know if you get what I mean.Like I said before, evolution is not only physical but also psychological. Humans to evolve in form must first negotiate the Psyche stage. |
Reyginus: I don't think you answered my questiom. Let me simplify it.Absolutely. HUMANS Haven't actually maximized their brain potential, but whenever that happens in no distant future, the brain's outward anatomy will remain largely unchanged. |
dejilg: From all you have typed now! It just so visible that for one to believe in evolution, a greater faith is required compared to believing in a "supernatural" being!...so now that u r a man of the 21st century, as a person wud u say u r wiser than plato? Obviously u have evolved right?Obviously, I'm not qualified to teach you a lesson in evolution, but know this: Evolution can be defined as the gradual development of something, esp. from a simple to a more complex form. A baby that transformed into a young adult within the space of 20 years, just underwent a minor form of evolution. Surely, it doesn't require much faith to believe that? As for Plato, he was a genius, an anomaly if you will. He evolved far beyond his time. Every generation is blessed with such people. |
Reyginus: Hmmm. This statement is somehow. Is it assuming Evolution as innovation or a cahnge in fotm? If the latter how?Evolution comes in many forms. It isn't only limited to anatomy alone, there are other aspects to consider as well. There is nothing wrong with my statement. |
dejilg: Can anyone who has "sound logic" tell us why evolutionThe way certain people thinks never fail to amaze me... Evolution is a slow process, exceedingly slow but continous. Humans are still evolving just like everything else on earth. Humans of 21st century are obviously smarter than humans of 100 A.D. That's evolution at work, whether you want to accept it or not. It never pauses. Humans will eventually conquer space but we haven't evolved to that level just yet. We are still at the archaic stage of evolution as our brain full potential remain largely untapped. I don't expect you to understand or believe this, but your descendant (next generation) will be a testament to the law of evolution as the next generation will undoubtedly usher in the next chapter of the evolution of man. They are the ones that will change the world as we know it. Evolution is all around us, you breath it, live it, touch it, caress it, it's inevitable, unavoidable... just like gravity. |
9jadelta: 72 virginsWhom will be virgins no more after you are through with them all. ![]() |
infonubia: I want to believe its ur first assumption.You are entitled to believe whatever you want, mate. |
The man must be a pretty bad shot. 19 rounds and no hits?! Either he wasn't intending to really hit anyone, or he was a really pathetic shot. Probably the former... |
Hmmn...an interesting question. From my experience, before anyone can be termed eligible to sit/stand inside the witness box, a certain protocol must be observed. The protocol demands that all witnesses must pledge an oath in order to validate the credibility and authenticity of their respective testimonies. But for the atheist, on the request of the witness, the final "so help me God" may be modified to suit him/her. |
It depends on who you ask. To a theist, life without god is nothing. To an atheist, it's a foolish question. As a realist myself, the more I study religion, the more I'm convinced that man never worshipped anything but himself. |
So you would rather believe that some higher force is behind this whole setup, than risk looking outwards? What's the harm? Are you afraid that the little fairly tale you got going on will be blown away by the sound logic of the evolution theory? Why do you turn your nose to the word "theory" btw? Do you find it so threatening as to hold it in such contempt? Remember that Newton's law of gravity was a theory, but that didn't made it any less true. Evolution is a theory alright...just like gravity. It's something you can take a pot shot at a safe distance, but can't really take on one-on-one. Little wonder a certain man described faith as not wanting to know what is true. Keep living in your fools paradise. |
Why didn't God save him from dying? ![]() |
RationalDude: Sentiments or not, my point is you can't just dismiss it like that. You should give reasons why it must be dismissed.Okay, since you insisted, I'm gonna serve it to you on a hot plate. Here goes... Your question: “Is the creative power of humans a proof that humans were created by supernatural being(s)?” My reply: Humans are technically animals just like a common goat or dog you see everyday, anthropologically highly evolved, but at the end of the day, still animals. The evolutionary leap gave them an advantage that other animals weren't equipped with → an analytical mind. This in turn gave birth to all the other phenomena like speech, thought process, creativity, etc. Pretty straightforward, huh? Last words: Where and how exactly then, did you arrive at the supreme being annotation? |
RationalDude: "what can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof" is self defeating since you can't prove the statement. What do you think about scientific theories that haven't be proven to be fact, should we just dismiss them like that?Leave science out of this foolishness. Your assertion was born out of sentiments and must be treated as such. |
RationalDude: Can you prove your statement then? Prove that "what can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof".“dismissed without proof" |
RationalDude: Is the creative power of humans a proof that humans were created by supernatural beings or a supernatural being?What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. |
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