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F00028: you guys got a "church";there's talk of a "bible"; now you're giving "sermons"?!
is it just me or is the deja vu real thick here?

Yep, most definitely JUST you.

None. They weren't intended to stir up emotions to begin with.

Who Sinned First, God Or Adam? suited the topic best, IMO.

God was the instigator, he allowed Satan to roam free knowing fully well that naive Couples like Adam and Evil would be susceptible to his charms, which begs the question: What was god's game plan? What's the point of telling Adam not to eat the forbidden fruit and yet allowed the serpent to slunk about, unchecked? I think god committed the first sin of deceit, long before Adam ate the fruit. I think god was Machiavellian in that regard.

None.

Uyi Iredia: Just done with church. Twas okay.

Fella, I really don't know where you stand. Are you a Christian or something more complex, what are you??

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Just another junk thread...

Inspired write-up there, LB. Space booked.

Logicboy03: Even more nonsense.

Hitler admired the Japanese for their true atheism? Why do you lie?
Hitler was an atheist? Another lie
Nazism replaced catholicism? Yet the catholic church was in support of Hitler?


Guy, you are someone willing to lie in order to win the argument. I got no time for that

Have it your way. Just remember that Google is your friend. Everything I said can be found in Google if you know where to look. Good day.

Logicboy03: One can see why human progress is being hindered by religion. This guy tells an outright lie that Nazis were atheistic and he gets a total of 5 likes! The other commonsense comments by others hardly get a like. See how religious people are ignorant and dangerous? They support anything against atheists or that agrees with their religion be it nonsensical or foolish.

I didn't beg for likes. In fact I posted without any intention of getting a like simply because I wasn't gunning for one, I was merely being honest. I'm not against atheism and my comments weren't intended to be. I'm simply a realist first, before anything else. You can construed my posts as nonsensical because it didn't agreed with your views, but then that's just your opinion. Others that went for the like button didn't share it, and I think you should respect that. Thank you.

Logicboy03: Now, explain how the Nazi's were atheistic when
-The German society at the time where dominantly christian

Before the world wars started, true, but somewhere in the middle of the chaos, the core of Nazism ideology contested the mere ideal of it. The Third Reich was an ambition, a dream to create a dominate race of blonde, blue eyed humans that would control the world. Does that sound Christ-like to you? I don't think so.


There are documented accounts of Nazis extermination of Christians that didn't accept their ideologies, that took place inside several churches, scattered between Poland, Italy and Germany. A sacrilege in a Christian world, but then again, the Nazis would have to be Christians themselves to honour that code. I don't know much about religion, but I know since the time of the Spanish inquisition, Christians don't kill their own, just because they disagree on something.

Nazis from all the evidences lying around if you bother to look hard enough are anything but religious, mate.

Logicboy03: -They all had "God with us on their belts". Even christian crusaders didnt have that on them

Just like I said before in my previous post, it was merely a slogan. A metaphor projecting their supremacy to their adversaries.

Logicboy03: -Their leader was a catholic and felt that he was doing "God's work"?

Adolf Hitler was merely a mad man that was given a religious upbringing, nothing more. He made a famous speech at height of his power, admiring the Japanese for their true atheism and proclaiming the Third Reich not suitable for Christianity.

Logicboy03: Another lie that you are telling is that "so help me God" is necessary in court as a formality. WRONG. An atheist is allowed to skip that phrase in court.

Maybe it had been modified, but it wasn't always so. Atheist and theist used to pledge the oaths in full, regardless of ones belief.

You kept scratching the surface...

Mescopaul: Noble Sal C says "The priests that break their vow of celibacy should be blamed and not the denomination concerned"

Now, that's foolish. When a child insults a grown-up, do you blame the child? Nope, you attack it from the root source, which is usually bad upbringing, which in turn boils down to the parents.

The same is applicable to the Roman Catholic Church. When a priest deviate from his oath of celibacy and engage in an illicit relationship with some chica, you don't blame the priest, you blame the church for not being stricter or less strict in it's policy, as the case may be. The church's policy is the root source not the priest.

Mescopaul: And then my humbly self sticking right out to contradict Sal C that the institution should not just fold their arms and refusing to see the cankerworm that's gradually eating the supposed sacred spotless priests.

I agree.

Mescopaul: As for Ray he has a total different view of the whole issue, he is yet to believe in celibacy which is the basis of this thread.

No one can possibly go multiple decades without milking the snake at some point. It's anthropologically impossible.

Mescopaul:
hahaha you make words seem as if they ve happened already! Take your time bro! Its your voice!

I doubt if the Catholic will ever come to a decision like that, if not for their old long standard then it'll be for their pride.

It's already happening. They must have already come to terms with their empty pride and unless traditions to even consider the possibility.

Therefore, it's only but a matter of time before all the cardinals and other lesser priests inevitably legalize their previously illicit relationships with marriages (Oh, what a relief that would be for the whole bunch!) enthusiastically endorse by the Pope.

Or have you forgotten that a very progressive Pope (with a possible secret gay son) is at the helm of affairs presently?

Mr Troll: Geez man! What has the vikings got to do with this discussion You implied that the atheistic countries are enjoying peace time atheism because of the US and i just showed it to be false. Now you pull out a viking strawman. Go and sleep man. . .

Weren't you the one that said previously that the Scandinavians had always being peaceful. I was trying to point out to you that it wasn't always so.

Mr Troll: The countries i mentioned were to show you that they do not owe their peace to the US. By the way, Denmark was neutral during WW2. That germany invaded them doesn't invalidate their stance. What are you saying guy?

Lol! How could a country be neutral and still got invaded, and yet again still maintained their stance prior to the invasion? Are you even aware that Mussolini's Italy were initially not on the side of the Germans prior to their invasion? Germans forced them to fight on their side after successfully defeating their arm forces. The same thing they did to Czech, Austria, I could go on and on... Do you even proofread your post before clicking on the post button...geez.

Switzerland WAS NEUTRAL, that's why they weren't invaded, even with their strategic location in Europe, not Denmark, which never had a choice to begin with. They inevitably suffered the same fate France, Spain, Italy, Norway, Poland, and Greece suffered during the course of the WW2.

Mr Troll: from nazi germany to the many views of Hitler. Lol. Nazi germany was never atheistic my guy. .

Still debatable, it's not that black and white.

Mr Troll: still rubbish. This is just like saying corruption is not a problem, humans are. . .its a clear thing guy, the over religiousness of we africans has caused us more harm than good therefore religion, as practiced here is one of the problems we face. Do away with it and there'll be one less problem.

The above clearly showed that you don't really get it. You are one of those pipe dreamers that think that solving one problem will lessen the load. Not so, mate. It might work in the movies, but not in real life. Do yourself a favor and get your head outta ya àss and face reality. #No offense.

Logicboy03: "atheistic Nazi Germany"


You sir, are too ignorant to waste my time on for saying that Nazis were atheistic!!!

Insults will only make you sound more foolish than you already were!

All Nazi soldiers wore a belt buckle that says "Gott Mit Uns" which means "God is with us." which naturally made some people to assume the Nazis to be religious. Not so, not that simple.

Nazism was an ideology based in fascism which had nothing to do with religion, but with cults of personality. In this case the ideology glorified mans supremacy(in this case Germans) over everything else, God included.

Nazi soldiers wears "Gott Mit Uns" as a slogan, disregarding the literal interpretation. It's the same as calling the Manchester United players The Red Devils even though they are mere mortals like everyone else. It's a sentiment intended to project their invincibility to the world.

Another example, all Nazis were required to uphold this oath:

"I swear: I will be faithful and obedient to the leader of the German empire and people, Adolf Hitler, to observe the law, and to conscientiously fulfil my official duties, so help me God!

Ending the oaths with so help me God is a mere formality. In a court of law, the sentiments is echoed, irrespective of ones denomination or lack of thereof.

The issue of Nazi Atheism is still debatable anyhow, but from what I could piece together from evidences littered in one article or another, the Nazis were atheistic.

Mr Troll: What nonsense is this? Go read some history man. The scandinavians have always been peaceful and it has absolutely nothing to do with the USA.

Apparently, you don't know your history. Ever heard of the Vikings? Oh yes, they are the ancestors of the race we call Scandinavians today. They are known to be conquerors, invading one country after another and planting their seeds (that's how they spread to Faroe Island, Iceland, and shetney islands)

Mr Troll: While the US and europe were in the throes of WW2, Denmark, Switzerland, Finland etc were basically neutral and never involved themselves. Pls stop this ignorant misinformation. . .

Lol! You conveniently forgot to mention, Norway and Sweden. Btw, Mr history teacher, Switzerland is not a Scandinavian Country. It's a land-locked central European country that is made up of French and German majority and Italian minority. Finlands are not really regarded by some as a Scandinavian nation. Denmark was occupied by Nazi Germany during the WW2, and thus weren't neutral, just like France weren't neutral when they are also occupied subsequently.

Mr Troll: Nazi germany was atheistic? Are you high? Do you know Hitler was a practicing catholic and in fact got the blessings of some prominent catholic fathers during the war? This is a public forum mate, misinformation does not carry for long.

Lol! Hitler started out as an catholic but rather on at the height of his power declared that Christianity wasn't suited for the Germans as a race. Read up on that on this link and quit this foolishness of yours.

Mr Troll: What strawman is this? Who says peace will suddenly reign? And besides, how are you certain that its because USA is mostly religious thats why they are the world power or why are keeping the peace? Mcheew!

Entirely missed the point. The point I'm trying to get through is that religion isn't the problem, rather man is.

joel lala: Try to understand what Ray is talking about..Several ages ago before the radical spread of religion man has always battled with himself continuously..there was never peace..Africa for example before the christain and muslim missionaries came never experienced peace..nw every of the country with less religion still have nukes and nuclear warheads in their backyard..man is insatiable and will continue to fight himself..BTW countries like saudi arabia, Qatar are religious and are highly developed too.

#Word.

Logicboy03: Oh, how foolish of you sir. Sorry to sound rude but seeing as you are not religious, you must be trolling with that statement.

Been non-religious doesn't in anyway compel me from speaking the truth as I see it, mate.

Logicboy03: We have seen countries with little religion and how much the absence of religion in majority of their citizens' lives is met with a higher standard of living.

So that is the basis of your argument? That countries with atheistic tendency tends to do better than the religious ones?

You need a reality check, mate, and I'm gonna provide one for you.

Ask yourself what would happen if United States weren't there to keep the peace? Sweden, Denmark and such are only enjoying the full benefits of peace time atheism because World powers like U.S.A are there to shield them from the full dose of reality.

Let's go back to WW2 when atheistic Nazi Germany wanted to take over the world, or the abominations of the Soviet Union Communism subsequently. Those, were fueled by Man's ambition at it's most ruthless, without any inhibitions or excuses like religion to mask it.

Now, what do you think will happen if a rising power like atheistic China were to take over world supremacy from the United States? Do you think that peace will suddenly reign? I don't think so. The demise of religion will only usher in a greater evil in it's place.

Just remember, it's man that is driving the car, not atheism or religion. As far as man is in the forefront, peace will never reign on earth, it's just not in our nature.

Cease scratching the surface and dig deep, mate.

Good for Mikel. Probably the only Chelsea player that played well today.

Meanwhile in other news, Pepe's Bayern is thrashing Schalke 3-Nill, right at the later's backyard.

Havilah93: penalty kicks no longer part of the game?

Apparently, the referee and linesman and everyone else not wearing a blue jersey disagreed with your sentiments. #JustSaying.

Now, they are looking for penalty? Can Chelsea possibly get anymore pathetic than they already were?!

Mourinho's Chelsea is incapable of scoring a clean goal, just thought I might add.

khanivorous: HBO AMC and showtime are truly the best... Others are generic joor

Yep.

RationalDude: The keyword there is "might". I didn't admit anything.

In the real world and inside the court of law for that matter, Might equates to Yes, there are no maybes.

RationalDude: She was an ''olosho'' and as such, she ''shined'' many ''congos''. Jesus might have been one of the "network testers" but the bible doesn't say much on their relationship so I'm not going to jump the gun here.

Aha! There you go! You just admitted it! The accompanying excuses are irrelevant.

RationalDude: I never mentioned Jesus in my post. I said "no one". No put me for trouble oo!

Whom were you referring to, then?

And remember in the bible, only J-man had a one-on-one section with the hooker, at least according to the biblical records, or am I missing something?

@Op, I would advice you to Click Here and read the Real possibilities, and cease with this rubbish you are spewing.

When will people get their heads outta their àsses and face reality??

joel lala: Thank you Ray for your honest post.

Welcome.

RationalDude: Stop twisting my words like a servant of Luciferus Von Satanus.

But weren't you the one that said, and I quote "No one can have a babe like Mary Magdalene and still be gay."

What was the significance of the word 'Have' in your comment, then?

RationalDude: No one can have a babe like Mary Magdalene and still be gay.

Are you implying that J-man phucked her?!