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Uyi Iredia: I can give you a Christian answer if you will.

You don't seem to get the memo, do you? I'm not religious so wouldn't be able to give you one even if my life depends on it.
That's the purpose of this thread...to find answers.

Reyginus: In praying to God we not only show that we really want his plan for us to come to pass, we are also acknowledging the source of the plan to be carried out.
God is a respecter of freewill, he will not go against our freewill to carryout his plan for us unless we commit it to him.
If he carries out the plan without our asking he will be going against the right to choose he gave us. Thus, commiting evil which is contrary to His being.
Look at this way. A loving, rich, good and rational father anywhere in this world will want his son to prosper and multiply in everything that is good. But it behoves on the son to decide if he really wants to thread the path that will lead to the acquisition of all that is good.
The father won't try to force him to thread the path, where he does, he no longer becomes the good father we ascribed to him.
Take prayer to God as the acceptance of the offer to fulfill his plans for you.

You look like an intelligent fella. Had an half-mind to challenge your reply but that would have put a dampener in an otherwise brilliant response.

Okay...

Attempt Next question?

This edition will further widen the already considerate gap between FIFA and PES.

FIFA is all about realism while PES is just too acardey for my liking.

FrostyZonn: For PCs...Yeah.

Great!!

FrostyZonn: There are 2 forms of FIFA 14; The one for PCs, XBOX 360s, and PS3s, and the one for next gen(PS4).

FIFA 14 New ignite engine would only work on next gen platform like PS4, because it's specs are way too high for the previous gen, but it's release dates are yet to be announced...presumably early next year. So it remains a non-issue.

So...For now, it's all about PCs, XBOX 360s and PlayStation 3, until further notice.

In other words, the new ignite engine is irrelevant for now?

@Uyi Iredia, your views ran parallel to most of atheistic ones, more or less.

Reading it is like talking to myself.

I need a Christian or Muslim brother or sisters that have a differing view, that would put those questions to rest or at least attempt to...

Reyginus: Better be sure you are not here to waste my time.
To the above.
God as the supreme and perfect spirit that he is, in creating within six days, was depicting how he'd like man to operate.
A kind of blueprint on how man as co-creator with God will run his society, and the role of timing in the affairs of man.
It goes further to stress that the seventh day is meant for man to rest from his work, coupled with praises and worship to the one who made everything possible.
That is what I call, living by example.

A more satisfactory reply than the one striktlymi gave.

It made sense. Can you attempt other questions if you can, thanks.

striktlymi: We are not sure if the world was created in exactly 6 days because the way God sees a day is quite different from the way man sees it....the bottom line however, is that God took a period of time to create the world.

The fact that he took some time has nothing to do with his nature as an all powerful God. Note that an all powerful God also reserves the right to do whatever he pleases which includes (but not limited to) taken his time to create the world.

Hence, the simple answer to your question is that God took a period of time to create the world because he wanted it that way.

If God could command light to appear and light complied, what stopped him from doing same to the rest of the creation and thus, save himself from all those hassles of waiting for another 24 hours to begin the next process? It doesn't make sense at all!

Your response is not satisfactory.

striktlymi: Like I implied earlier, God decides to do things the way he sees fit. He sees it fit to create an avenue where his creatures (man in this case) would have an avenue to communicate with their creator.

You can think of it, more or less like the 'complaint section' of nairaland where every Tom, D*ck and mariah goes to communicate with their moderators. Note that the mods have a choice of scrapping the complaints section and communicate directly in the various threads but they did not choose this avenue.

But I heard somewhere in the Bible that the way of God is not the way of man. Or am I wrong in that assessment? By comparing God's way and that of Mods, weren't you kinda equating their similarities. In other words, God thinks like man and vice versa.

Another unsatisfactory response..

striktlymi: In the same way, God chose prayer as one of the means whereby humans are able to meet and communicate with their creator.



I guess the verse of sacred scriptures you refer to is:

Genesis 2:17
17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.”

God has so deemed it necessary that all his creatures (Man and Angel) must merit the beatific vision of Heaven. And the only virtue needed in meriting Heaven is obedience.

This obedience can be forced on man and the Angels but God so respects our freedom to choose that he made it such that each individual Angel and Man must decide whether they want to obey him willingly or not. As a result everyone was put in a temporary abode in order to ascertain their willingness to obey the commands of God.

For Adam and Eve, that place was the garden of Eden where they had all that they could hope for. To 'test' their readiness for Heaven they were given just one task: Do not eat of the fruit of knowledge.

This order was not given in a vacuum. God made it such that both Adam and Eve were fully aware of the consequences for an act of disobedience, as depicted in the words of Eve:

Genesis 3
New International Version (NIV)
2 The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die. ’”

In essence, the point I am driving at is simple: Though Adam and Eve were oblivious to order acts of good and evil, they were fully aware that eating of the fruit is WRONG hence the punishment.

How?? If they didn't know that there is no such thing as Good and evils, how in the hell were you expecting them to comprehend the full implication of eating the forbidden fruit?

You kept going round and round in circles without really touching the questions...

Third strike for you.

striktlymi: God did not come from a place. He existed of himself and I don't know how.

You don't know where he came from, or that he even exist, and yet you worship him all the same? Interesting...

striktlymi: The same way mud was turned into man. God is all powerful.

Invalid answer! Man like most living organisms in the face of via planet, is composed primarily of flesh and blood, and more blood. According to chemical composition of the flesh, there is no trace of carbonic acid or other diluted solvents associated with clay soil.

And all these still doesn't explain how a virgins could get pregnant and conceive.

C'mon man, you are making the churchfolks look bad!

striktlymi: No he did not. However, given man free will implies an innate ability for man to sin. Note that free will is not a bad thing.

According to your bible, God created Lucifer, whom in turn created sin. Hence, logically God created sin by proxy.

How many strikes for you now..? I've lost count.

striktlymi: Various reasons...ranging from a sincere desire to follow God, to very selfish motives of making money.

Please take note that Some religions like Hinduism, Budhaism, etc detest money. Your response is already invalid if that is to be put into account...Which I will.

Done.

striktlymi: Depends on what you mean by 'legitimate'. If by 'legitimate' you are talking about the son of the 'promise' then Isaac is your man.


Genesis 21:1
Now the Lord was gracious to Sarah as he had said, and the Lord did for Sarah what he had promised.[/color]

Emm...Our Muslim brethrens wouldn't agree with you on that.

striktlymi: I am not a Muslim. Your question is best answered by one but if you ask me, I will say it has a lot to do with their method of prayer.

Muslims, kneel, bow and 'prostrate' in humble submission to God while praying and in doing so a chair is hardly needed. However, a chair can be provided for worshippers on request, especially when such worshipper is an elderly person that is unable to perform the 'prayer rites' as expected.

The only satisfactory response you gave so far, and you ain't even a Muslim! Are you sure your religious sentiments are in the right place?

striktlymi: Muslims hold Jesus in high esteem and believe that he is a Muslim. They refer to him as Prophet Isa. Christians do not believe Muhammad is a prophet.

A'right.

striktlymi: I should have read this before attempting the questions.

Doesn't matter...you tried.

Good one OP, but is it true that on PCs, 14 wouldn't be making use of the Next gen engine? Something about the specs being to low for it or something...

FrostyZonn: https://shop.choosetoawaken.com/images/Ignored.jpg

Really? We shall see...

4reigningqueen: my friend,
why not keep quiet if you have nothing meaningful to contribute and dont transfer your aggression on me cos am not the reason for your being broke!

Whop-De-Doo!

A brokea$$ niggah in a broke$$ country calling me broke...?

Wow!...and I thought I've heard it all.

Any other church folk who wanna take a shot??

Muslims are also welcome.

Ajibam: Bro..
The only answer you nEed is


Accept Jesus into your life..if you do! All this willbe clear to you..you are veiled now,until you accept jesus christ all this wont be clear to you!!

The step is simple
Just say What the picture says

Nah...That's not an answer. You are just being your typical shrouded xtian self. Just gimme a straightedge response and you are already pointing me to Yesus.

Remember that Kanye West answers to that name, among the other 1 million Latinos that call themselves Jesus too.

Or are you telling me to accept one of them into my life. Oh wait, I can just visualize it now.

I walk up to some random Latino and...

"Hello Pedro, I need you in my life to understand how A virgin could get pregnant?"

Yeah, very logical indeed.

Score one for the Christians.

Why are mosque devoid of chairs for crying out loud? Muslims...?

Are there no Christian in the house? C'mon, come and defend y'selves.

4reigningqueen: I am not really a fan of the devil but i just kept wondering that we should at least hear his own part of the story as regards what happened before he was thrown out.

Who has seen him or who knows how we can contact him to at least clear all doubts maybe it will even help the atheist.

Are you on high sumtin'? Probably, or maybe just plain bonkers. Devil and Jesus are just figments of your drug trippin, nothing else.

musKeeto: Praise Master Jesus!!!!

You a Christian or what? What ya mean?

www.nairaland.com/1418790/10-questions-religious-folks#17781054

This thread deserves a recommendation for homepage ASAP. it's controversial and bound to draw traffic.

My first official post is as follows;»»OH, this is gonna be good««


10 Questions for Religious folks.

Don't meant to be offensive or anything...just asking.

1. Why did God create the world in 6 days? Why not just instantly do it all in one day if he was all powerful?

2. If God has a plan for us then why pray at all?

3. Why did God punish Adam and Eve for doing wrong if they did not know the difference between right and wrong?

4. Where did God come from?

5. How does a virgin get pregnant?

6. Did God create sin?

7. Why are there so many religion with each one claiming to be the only true one?

8. Between Isaac and Ismael, which one was the legitimate son of Abraham?

9. Why are there no chairs in mosques?

10. What status does Jesus hold in Islam. And what status does Mohammed hold in Christianity?

You don't need to answer all, just attempt one that you know.