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vickyO: Ray, Roy they're almost alike, whatever.
ok, Ray, I don' have the patience to read it too.
It's like you didn't get the part where I stated that I won't stress myself reading all of that.
If you and your fellows find it long and rioting, Google more answers. ok? I've tried (by posting the link).
Easy answer: when you die ask God for clarification.

vickyO: I don't know, I haven't read it...

And yet you posted it.

What's your agenda?

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vickyO: I apologize... My connection was slow, I didn't intend to post that link here...
It is for your other thread.

Noted.

Heathen: Ahem, christians, how exactly does an omnipresent being move? how exactly does your God move to a position in space he already occupies?

You seem to be missing the point.

Go back to the beginning, patiently read every post that is visible to your nàked eyes, then think about it for a moment then proceed with the posting of whatever that caught your attention. Thanks.

vickyO: I make up my mind: you had a glance.
I told ya I didn't want to answer you but you insisted so I googled it and posted a link I liked.
And I won't stress myself reading all of that and explaining it to the "lazy reader" (Roy Mcblue), why? Cause I am not in need of answers, you are, so when a link was provided, you should read it through and if you finally aren't satisfied ask someone else or look it up on Google like me.

First of all, the name's Ray, Ray McBlue. Secondly, I'm not doing this for myself only, but for everyone out there who might have been either consciously or sub-consciously contemplating the same thing.

Personally, I wouldn't mind clicking the link, which I did btw, but not everyone has the mb or the patience to read through all that riot.

Which is why it's only fair that you should summarize the high points of the link for the benefit of the general audiences.

vickyO: I am not ready to give answers... though I tried by providing that link and if you think it proves nothing then so be it (and I doubt if you read it fully)... As for the lazy readers, sorry, I can't summarize, if you can't read, don't open the link or you can ask Roy Mcblue to summarize it for you (he's read it), I've got better things to do.

One moment you had your doubts that I read it in full, the next, I read it all...make up ya mind lassie!

Anyhoo, you shouldn't have bothered posting the link in the first place, if you are intellectually incapable of explaining yourself.

I'm an hardcore Atheist, which is why the prospect of teaming up with pagans seemed too much like a sell-out to me.

Believe it or not, pagans are theist, and are no different to Christians and Muslims. They discriminate just as much.

In a largely pagan community, if you are an atheist or Christian, you'd better steer clear, or they will use you for human sacrifice.

Pagans have nothing in common with atheist cuz most are bunch of ignorant illiterates, while atheism is the epitome of free thinking and advance knowledge.

I strongly protest the credibility of this thread. Team up with who?

[size=16pt]No way![/size]

vickyO: http://hubblerevealscreation.com/genesis/.... check it out.

Don't post a link. Just explain to the best of your ability or hold your peace.

The link you posted is invalid btw.

Booty butt chic: tie ur legs and pretend ur a mermaid

Classic!

vickyO: People are really answering you, not surprising though.
Romans 1: 18- 32, I'll pick the traits you possess for now..... vs. 21 they glorified him not as God...and their foolish heart was darkened, vs. 22 professing themselves to be wise they became fools, vs. 29-31 being filled with all unrighteousness, debate, deceit, haters of God, inventors of evil things, without understanding. vs. 32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death not only do the same but pleasure in them that do them.
I won't waste my time answering those questions of yours... Trying to make mockery of God and his decisions.
When you are ready to know the answers, Seek Him DILIGENTLY and he will find you and give you divine understanding of God. Giving you answers is like trying to convince a man on a matter he has already firmly decided.

You are mistaken.

I'm quite reasonable. A sound explanation is enough to silence me, and it has to be really good.

vickyO: http://hubblerevealscreation.com/genesis/
check it out

With all due respect, the above link proves nothing.

For the benefit of lazy readers, why don't you summarize the content of the link, thanks.

ifeness: Which god are we taking about here?

The Christian God...duh.

idnoble135: wharefa!
Enjoy yourself. And revel in your ignorance
*unfollows thread*

Cheerio!

@Uyi Iredia, please give it up cuz you are not making much sense.

I'm tired of repeating myself.

idnoble135: No, you are not. If you were here to learn, you will not use the topic topic up there. You will rather ask and not conclude.

Irrelevant.

@idnoble135, please kindly deviate from derailing my topic. I'm the one asking the questions not you, it's my thread after all.

I humored you at first by explaining an irrelevant issue which is off topic, and I'm not going to do so again.

Besides, if you had bothered to read my scientific explanation of how Sun precedes Earth, you wouldn't be asking such irrelevant questions.

It's obvious you have nothing else to offer.

idnoble135: The thread was not open because you wanted to learn. You opened it with the intention of mockery.

No I didn't. Believe it or not, I'm here to learn.

idnoble135: And just to ask, what makes it impossible?

I don't expect you to understand or agree, but I will explain anyway;

The creation of the Earth is closely tied to the formation of the solar system about five billion years ago.

The solar system condensed from a huge cloud of gas and dust, with the Sun forming as part of the cloud collapsed in on itself under the influence of gravity to the point where nuclear fusion could begin.

The Sun’s gravitational field attracted large amounts of material, which formed a disc-shaped structure around it, known as an accretion disc.

The Earth, like the other planets, was created around 4.54 billion years ago when some of the material from this disc came together to form a spherical body.

At some point early in its history, it is thought that a smaller planet collided with this body, increasing its size and resulting in the formation of the Moon.

This above is a theory.

Uyi Iredia: No. It isn't logically absurd. Logical absurdity involves a position that is self-defeating eg materialism, square circles, it is true that I'm lying. Given God, it's easy the earth could have existed before the sun.

At the end of the day, it's a fallacy because earth existing before Sun is a scientific impossibility, and that's what made the logic of it all, absurd.

idnoble135: My point to you is since you can not basically prove that God created the "sun" in Genesis one, then your post is flawed.

Then tell me what the light in creation verses meant.

Light is synonymous with day time which in turn is synonymous with sunlight.

idnoble135: That means you admit a flaw. Okkk... address my second post.

The flaw is irrelevant. It doesn't undermine my claim, thanks to your own quotation that backed it up.

"And God said, Let there be
lights in the firmament....".

idnoble135: And just to ask, every light you see is now from the sun? What of light from bulb, fire, torchlights etc?

Wow...

So God invented electricity even before man officially discovered it in the 18 century?

Or maybe God created a giant pyre of bonfire that somehow illuminated the whole planet?

Mate, stop embarrassing yourself, cuz you are not making much sense.

idnoble135: Relax dude.
Am trying to show you bible never mentions the word sun in Genesis 1.
You said the sun was created in verse 3. If verse 3 of Genesis which you quoted thus:
" And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light." is where God made the sun, then what was this verse saying?
"And God said, Let
there be
lights in the
firmament....". Gen 1:14.

Mate, the verse that God really created the Sun is secondary, the primary issue - according to the bible - is that he created the Sun after the Earth as a planet was already in existence

In that you seem to be arguing on my side.

idnoble135: All am saying is scriptures never said point black that God created the sun in Genesisi chapter one.
Stop the delusion.

LOL! Your excuse sucks. What then did 'the light' implied if it wasn't the Sun?

It will be interesting to see who will be able to successfully justify this fallacy of biblical proportions, no pun intended.

idnoble135: Dont insinuate. An express verse that clearly shows God created the the earth before sun in the bible.

I don't understand. Were you arguing for or against?

Msoy: gen 1:1-3. God create light b4 creatin earth. @op, wat u'v jst posted is arrant nonsense.

Genesis 2:1 And the earth was without form and void, and the darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

This verse showed that he had already created the planet itself. It was without form because of the darkness encroaching it. The void meant that it was devoid of any life(it was empty).

You don't seem to know your scriptures, do you?

idnoble135: Where in the bible did you read that? Source pls.

Genesis 1:3 And God said, "Let
there be light," and there was light"

That light was the Sun.

Msoy: I do not think u're a Christian. Why can't u go read and undastnd d Bible. And stop bothering us with religious dichotomy.

Obviously I'm not a Christian or I wouldn't have created this topic...duh.

Isn't it your job as a 'Christian' to make me an unbeliever to understand the intricacies and complexities of the holy scriptures?

Why are you running scared?

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