₦airaland Forum

Your number is not on WhatsApp. What's the mileage and VIN of thus far?

Mileage and VIN number

Price

Is this Range 2012 or 2013

https://www.nairaland.com/5971908/2012-model-range-rover-evoque

Price

Minxie:
Yes there is a problem with accommodating foreigners. This problem I already addressed. The fact that you were at peace in Botswana and swaziland was because they get quality skilled foreign professionals that they need and want. So their people don't have a problem with their immigration policy or with foreigners.

The hostility in SA is attributed to the fact that South Africans are terribly upset about our immigration policy that is way more open than the policies of other countries. We are expressing our concern as to why South Africa is accommodating so many unskilled or under skilled individuals and criminals (these are two different sets of foreigners btw). You even have to admit, are there so many foreigners in Botswana who are doing odd jobs as there are in South Africa?

Again, South Africans are hostile for a reason. We don't go around shooting and killing foreigners wherever we go. We have a problem with criminals. And I've said it before, we shouldn't take it out on the foreigners (unless they are criminals) but we should take it out on our government. Which is something we are doing now.

But at the same time, you can't call us out for wanting the same policies that you have. Actually, Nigeria is one of the countries where immigration rules are tight and not just anyone can establish a business. The same with Ghana that has the law of their retail sector.

I'm sorry that you aren't happy here but I can also tell by the way you speak about South Africans why you aren't happy here. And your mindset will never allow you to be happy here.

Considering that you are in South Africa I expected you to give an honest account of things on the ground and not just a few hateful experiences of your own. I never denied that South Africans are hostile, i just explained why they can be in some instances. At least I owned up for our criminals. The people who committed those xenophobic acts are horrible and disgusting. You are here portraying criminals (not all foreigners) as innocent victims.

I'd like to emphasize that when I refer to foreign criminals, i mean criminals from another country and I don't mean that all foreigners are criminals. It's absurd to think that just like it's absurd to think all South Africans are xenophobic.

I will give you some advice though. The next time you engage South Africans, try to be a little more open and get to know them. Not just a few but get to know the people around you and try to form relationships with them. You will see that they are good people. I also live in another country as a foreigner and I've noticed that the people who hate that country are the ones who don't try to fit in. I hope you enjoy the rest of your stay here and that you make lasting friendships.

Peace out

I cannot agree less with your this position as it's more balanced than the others I read which were putting all the ills in S.A. on the table of foreigners which I know ain't the truth. I equally wonder the calibre of people I see around here but I've never blamed them because someone issued those visas.

Why all the aggression on them when the right people to tackle and demand change from us government. You wanna tell me that you don't know that even when there's a strike for under performing municipality that shops are not looted? How many people go to jail for that and who compensates the victims?

South Africa is portrayed to be a civilized society but sorry to say that violently going out on foreigners for whatever reason is not acceptable. There are institutions that are supposed to take care of any misdemeanor of anyone. I understand there's a lot of rot in SAPS, immigration, court, border control etc, the demand should be for those institutions to be held accountable. I've had policemen telling me that an not gonna be a big Nigerian if I don't sell drugs. That's after searching my car without finding anything and I refused to offer "cold drink".

Having highlighted above, I also gave to admit that what many foreigners do here in S.A. is unimaginable and despicable. In a lawless society, they're supposed to be lynched. So I seriously think that instead of going about killing people, looting and burning stuff (innocent people are mostly affected), more should be done by demanding answers from the authorities and government.

What happened in Johannesburg last September was pure mayhem. I visited joburg South then and it was wanton destruction of properties.

I got my job and was first posted to Botswana, then Lesotho and Eswathini before S.A. I must tell you I never had any problems at rise countries but in S.A., people just gate you just because you're a Nigerian even in an educated environment. They even question the fact that I work there. They ask why I must leave my country and come take their job? Sorry, most of the people here ain't friendly especially the black men. The majority of my acquaintances are colored and white and most of them are very good neighbors.

Take care and cheers

Minxie:
How do you expect people to love you when you trash them like this? You are in South Africa and you are insulting them. Yet you preach here about how we apparently hate you. You are a disrespectful individual and people like you are the reason why good Nigerians have to suffer from stereotypes.

I know many great Africans so I won't judge them based on your comments. But I would like to take this moment to point out to many people that statement like the ones you have made while on South African soil, are the types of statements we South Africans hear a lot from foreigners like you. I'm not talking about all foreigners, im talking about foreigners who have the same mentality as you.

Please refrain from insulting the people who accommodate you. It isn't your right, it's a privilege to be welcomed in someone's home. Just like I won't insult Nigerians if I should visit there.

I hope you think about the hatred you are spewing. And I hope our paths never cross. Or let's say, you should hope our paths never cross

Good day

When millions of foreigners living in S.A. lament on what they pass through everyday, you say they are insulting there host. Sorry, this is my first time ever to write anything here especially as it concern S.A. but your lies here need to be corrected. Those lies are the reason why the ills against foreigners in S.A. seem not to be addressed. Instead of you to acknowledging that there's problem of accommodating all in your country, you are in denial. Thus is no different to many racists that never believe they are one.

When I was working in Botswana and Swaziland, I had peace of mind and I pray SM transferred out of this hateful country after covid. I am not happy being here. Get that

TMKsouth:
I see you didn't get the sarcasm. Let me explain it to u. I'm a stupid lazy Zulu drunk. Why are you as a fantastic intelligent Nigerian wealthy person who pays 12K for rent doing a back and forth with me? Don't u have better things to do or better people to engage?

Am quoting you because ever since, you're busy projecting your place as if it's littered with milk and honey whereas that's false.

Am in your country for work too and that's not anything to brag about because my job take me to too many countries in SADC. So you can't be spewing shit about my place when yours ain't better.

I still maintain there's no sacarsm in what you wrote, you're a Zulu drunk and probably an addict

TMKsouth:
You are fantastically stupid because if u were smart for someone living in SA you'd know we have the largest black middle-class in Africa. So everything you're saying is out of jealously. Don't u meet rich black people at Rosebank Mall - they make up the majority. Your envy won't allow u to admit it.

Why are you in SA anyway - isn't it proof that shithole NIGGERia is a failed state?! Keep responding to me, that's what intelligent rich Nigerians do all day with stupid drunk ZULUS. I hope you spot the sarcasm and irony, but I doubt u will coz u dumb as f*ck.

Probably you're not Zulu which must be why you're mentioning them but that doesn't mean you're not a damn drunk. So every Blackman at Rosebank mall stay at Rosebank? I now confirm how mentally demented you are. You're just crossed that someone maybe for the first time stood up to the lies and fake things you've been faking here. The fact remains that as you are, am sure you can never pay up to 2k as rent alone.

What am doing in S.A.? That still show how demented you are. No one from S.A. is in Nigeria right? When they say you're xenophobic now, you start masturbating.��There's no sacarsm there. There are so many rich Nigerians and too many drunks South Africans. Deal with it����

TMKsouth:
You're the fool rat, living in SA around poor African drunks. U can't even even tell the difference between SA people and Zimbabweans/ Mozambicans there in the CBD where you're all crammed in filth like sardines. U know u can't stay in the township coz U'll be killed - people hate your corrupt guts. All Nigerian neighborhoods in SA are decayed and resemble disgusting Lagos - South Africans have left those around.

You are here spewing rubbish and claiming posh. Can you really pay rent? We know all of you and your low lives. Which people are the drunkards. Lol. Were you fathers not paid wages with alcohol. Stupid people that were just clamouring for alcohol during lockdown. If you guys drink responsibly, would government ban the sales of alcohol? It's because your sorry add can't stay without abusing it.

You come here claiming Rosebank that the whole of your family can't stay till they die unless only as a domestic.

Minxie:
I was only asking you as Nigerians to consult more sources in order for you to make a more informed and less emotional opinion.

if you read and consult all the sources and still think all South Africans are just pure xenophobic, i won't blame you. But if you continue to spread hate backed by fake news, you're gonna cause way more pain and hatred between the two countries.

I wonder what you can really tell me about South Africa. In as much as I believe that not all are hateful especially the ladies, but that your 0.5% assertion is pure lies. You see hate everytime and everywhere. You are constantly being reminded by someone that you must go back to your country.

You said other blacks are not targeted? Even your neighbour's from Lesotho and Zimbabwe are not spared.

You said that it was just 5 shops were looted? Just along Jules street, over 50 shops on the road were looted and many burnt afterwards. the cars that were burnt including 2 of mine parked for sale were over 250.

You said the culprits were arrested and tried? That pure white lie. No person was tried. I don't need to read fokol, am here.

The guys in cape town are refugees that refused to go back to there communities for fear of being attacked by there host. What did you put up here? That they wanna go to Canada. These are people that just wanna be safe and asked to be relocated to a safer environment. During apartheid, didn't your people seek refuge in some other countries?

So most of the things you wrote were all twisted lies. You can sell such lies to people that are not here not someone like me.

[quote author=TMKsouth post=91230984]The fact that u know MTN taxi rank proves that's the only part of Joburg u know and live in, where there's filth and rot. How typical - a Nigerian in Hillbrow! How stereotypical. How's the drugs business today? How are your prostitutes? Are u living 10 people in a single flat and throwing your trash out the living room windows? mtn taxi rank is symptomatic of the filthy Nigerian lifestyle in SA.

Some advise - get out if Hillbrow and Joburg CBD gutters to see black people living

Lol. I don't blame you but the faceless nature of a platform like this. How many of you live in good suburbs? Can you really pay high rent? See this Alex broke ass telling me I stay in Hillbrow. Keep blaming others for everything. Lol. How many Nigerians do you see struggling with you at those your shack houses. Swear you can pay 12k as rent. You can rant here but that still not mean that you're a broke ass.

Thought I don't stay in hillbrow, but I rather stay there than where you stay. Tell me place I don't know in jozi. oyisiphukuphuku

Minxie:
Yes, we are pushing reforms now but unfortunately that is still seen as xenophobic.

Also, you are complaining about something you are guilty of doing too. You think it's disrespectful for South Africans to come on a Nigerian forum (the internet is open to all btw) and badmouth Nigerians. I agree with you, it's disrespectful of them.

Yet there are so many Nigerians in SA badmouthing South Africans. Do you think that's fair? I even see Nigerians on this forum located in SA badmouthing the very same people who are accommodating them. How can you be in another person's country, sharing their space and still talk ill of them? not even just amongst yourselves but in front of those people.

I see people here calling a South African xenophobic without them even knowing the person. and funnily enough, they call us all xenophobic based on fake news. I swear, like 0.5% of South Africans are xenophobic. Actually compared to other countries, South Africans display the same amount of displeasure at illegal immigration and illegal activities of foreigners. There were a few looting sprees. Probably like 5 that involved 0.005 of the total population. The other protests you see about South Africans against foreigners are about South Africans against illegal activities of foreigners. Not foreigners in general. Your media just twists stories and your government gladly supports it because it makes them look like heroes.

In any case, we are equally ashamed and frustrated by the 0.5% and they were arrested and dealt with which is something your media didn't report. Ive seen a few South Africans on this forum who have given you true facts but you all tell them that they are lying. The latest xenophobic attacks were triggered when foreign criminals attacked police who were enforcing the law. Even a few months ago there were foreigners occupying cape Town and messing up the area because they wanted to go to Canada.

We aren't perfect but please try to get the full information before you tell us off. we are working on those xenophobic elements in our country but we expect the Nigerian government to also work on ensuring that criminals don't flood SA. We know there are good Nigerians. We just don't understand why the bad ones come here and spoil things along with our own criminals. We don't send our criminals to Nigeria so we expect the same. If you can address this situation at home, there would be no hostility. We addressed the looters and other criminals here.

You just LIE too much. Jeez!!

I never saw your church of satan post, I watched it on the news. Just read you telling someone thus is theonly fraud case he has read; I wanna ask you if fraud cases are not rampant in S.A. news? Thank for not denying all the disgusting filth in your country.

Some Nigerians are fraudulent tbh but an average South African is a criminal. I ask you again, can a South African work anywhere without making a "plan". Can you walk around Mtn in joburg alone at night? Stupid drunk mofos.

TMKsouth:
I'm the one who posted about the Church of Satan so I'm hiding NOTHING about SA. Here we admit our faults whereas you don't. That's why you are upset by my post. You are global leaders in fraud - FACT - deal with it.

Just STFU because South Africa is even worse. Can a South African work anywhere without making a "plan"? What happens to the daily cash in transit heist happens almost on daily basis before lockdown? What about Bathobile Mlangeni that works with SBV that walked away with R4million in February. What about the ones in court for the VBS case termed the biggest fraud case in south Africa. What's happening in eskom, Prasa, arms deal, morning etc. Is your police not corrupt? What of the fraud at SARS? What of the daily mugging of people everywhere? What if the daylight killings of your countrymen. What of your women and children that are killed in 100s everyday? Ehat about the taxi killings. Are you forgetting the gang wars everywhere. Whst about the lady that was rape, killed and hanged with her 8 months prehnancy? What of the high rate of satanism here. There's even a church of satan niw in CAPE town. The list is endless.

I know Nigeria is not doing well, but don't come here acting as if South Africa is a heaven. Tell me about a country where many children still die inside pit toilets.

So just STFU as crime is not peculiar to a particular nation.


quote author=TMKsouth post=91189311]

This is a rare case in South Africa.

MODIFIED: A lot of u are mentioning me incensed by this statement above. Well, it's the truth so live with it. Not my fault you tarnished your own reputation through global fraud.

P. S. This statement is directed at the haters and not ALL my Nigerian peeps.[/quote]

if my dad was not very very strict on me to the point of trying to burn me alive, I would have died a criminal. Sister, you just wan spoil. Period!!

EXLOVER:
I swear down, and me i hate ugly girls. If not i for just date one ugly low budget girl.

Hate is a wrong choice of word in this context bro. One love

You are intensifying testing with less than 2 ,000 tests a day in a country of over 200 million people.

South Africa did 17,200 yesterday and 21, 314 three days ago but they are still complaining that a total test of 488,609 since March is not enough.

We just have to get serious as a nation.

I seriously worry for Nigeria. Less than 35k tests since late February for a country of over 200 million people is so paltry. This gonna be a real long bumpy ride.

South Africa with a population of about 56 million has tested close to 500k people and infact tested 21, 314 in the last 24 hours.

Please my people, try to be safe.

OgaRico:
In other news, what are you saying?

The babies might still look alike if the wife cheated with her husband's brother

Asquare84:
During the tenure of wike that cultism, kidnapping and armes robbery become a norm in river state, yet the governor is not doing anything

Wike is a Viking bro. He ain't gonna do nada. Na dem

otomatic:
Of course they will be non-identical. Their fathers are non-identical .

What if the other dude is the husband's brother?

vanida6:
Shey no be u dey steal money why leave nah,,,if u leave dat means u re guilty,,,,infact why will a grown man like u been stayin in dsam place wit ur mum,,,just pay her 2k back nd find anoda place to enjoy ur life dear

He's still in school and previous accusation turned out to be false.
Op' s post was written in simple English and was straight to the point. Haba

Texman21:
If this makes fp i will cut my dick and post it

Waiting bro... don't chicken out

Just STFU. Poo brain

Blossomfirst:
Woman power! We rule

This is a vocational college, so where are the equipment? A vocational institution shouldn't be just classroom but more of studios and none is here.

Typical Nigerian style. Same old story.

Op, nice one by the state government bit try to always get your facts right. I reside in South Africa and about a month ago, government here brought in more than 6O mobile test labs.

https://www.un.org/africarenewal/news/coronavirus/south-africa’s-covid-19-testing-capacity-increased-60-new-mobile-lab-units-launched

Aremolekunowo:
If this car has no hidden issues....I tell you the op is giving it out very cheap at that price any one that love this car should inspect it,if you are cool with the condition just pay and take it away it's cheap. Just an advice �

how much be your cut?

XhosaNostra:
Personally, I don't think South Africans are hateful, we just don't like criminal elements from other countries. After all, we have our own & that's as far as we can tolerate. If you're honest & unbiased, as someone that lives here, I'm sure you can attest to some of the things foreigners do in South Africa. That's the source of the dislike.

So true but crime is universal. no country in the world that don't have foreign criminals.

I always tell everyone that's objective that crime in S.A. could be contained only if S.A. citizens want it. There's no foreigner that is in SAPS, immigration, SANDF, etc. The major problem is drugs and believe me when I tell you that most of the drugs in S.A. are originally brought in by S.A. citizens, of course as mules. Those drugs pass through the airports and land borders manned by South Africans.

You can also testify that the cops know all the major drug players but fail to arrest and prosecute them.

Most girls will not even date you if you don't turn up and they surely know the source of such funds.

Blaming foreigners for everything is not cool especially, in this century. The government that are issuing these visas, ids and passports know the country can't survive on its own.

Moreover, how many South Africans are not even committing one crime or the other? Is the anyone that can work I. a place where he's not making a plan. Crime is not about where you're from sis.

XhosaNostra:
And so, what does that have to do with the rest of us? Many South Africans don't like Nigerians, but "obsessed" is kind of a stretch.

I reside in South Africa and joburg precisely. I wanna ask chomi wan, which nationality to South Africans actually love? There's too much hate here sisi. That's the simple truth.

I must also say the guy in question was rude.

This is from less than 200 tested cases. Nigeria is a disaster waiting to happen.

Kingpinukecy:
poor dressings �

Very insensitive!! Jeez!! At death? That lady and their entire families will prefer the dead guy in rags than in the coffin. Get sense!!