Christianity Etc › Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by refreshrate: 7:48pm On Oct 05, 2015 |
adconline: It will forever look like page 404 puzzle to ur encephalon... wow! big english! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by refreshrate: 5:57am On Oct 05, 2015 |
birdman: good point, and you raised issues that are sticking points for me. The first part is obvious - if you try to run a private enterprise to be govt competitive on prices, you WILL run at loss. So I have no problems with Covenants etc charging more. The parable of the 3 servants given talents by their master is clear. God does expect that we increase what we started with. The second issue is about fairness. In the book of Acts, all the believers gathered money together and split resources to share especially for the needy etc. Question is how do we apply this principle to today? How does a church plow its profit from ventures like universities etc back to benefit the needy among its parishioners?
Frankly, I don't know that simple profit sharing will work in today's world - how do you determine how much of the profit goes to helps versus keeping the business healthy etc. I do think that the needy should get some help more than just food...maybe scholarships to said universities, grants to open businesses, loans etc.
The reason I don't criticize the Oyedepos and Adeboyes is that truth be told, I dont know if they do these things or not. And based on the Lord's command to do acts of kindness with little noise, I dont expect them to tweet about every single act. So, until I can prove that they don't, I run the risk of criticizing innocent people, and probably hinder God's work more than help it. Not to mention that by judging other Christians, I immediately set myself up to be judged by the same measure.
Of course, if I were a member of any of these churches, the questions you raised would definitely be in my mind. Finally someone who thinks! Thank you very much for this sir...thank you very very much! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by refreshrate: 5:53am On Oct 05, 2015 |
Ubenedictus: u guys will soon turn this to a quarel.
Nobody said it is wrong to have wealth or make wealth! That is not the issue, the issue is practice what you preach.
You cannot preach a gospel where Jesus condemned the rich fool for hoarding wealth when you are doing the same. If the church missions are not of a caring heart are not Charitable then why have them?
A church that cannot practice the gospel is not a house of God it is the shop of men. First you say nothing wrong in having wealth then you say Jesus condemned someone for the same wealth. Which is it oga? Meanwhile Jesus condemn rich fool for hoarding wealth? Please if it's not too much to ask could you explain further as this is entirely unknown to me. Thanks |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by refreshrate: 5:48am On Oct 05, 2015 |
adconline: It's hard to be logical with you, but you are comfortable with offering ignorant opinion from the bottomless dungeon of irrationality.. Go play some where cod this discussion is not meant for u!! Says the man who can't compose two sentences in English. Guy stroll abeg. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by refreshrate: 10:40pm On Oct 04, 2015 |
hensben: Typical Nigerians! Instead of been logical they speak irrational just to feel good. I'm a Muslim my foot. I know your type. I don't owe you any explanation. my type is not the issue here. attend to the points raised and stop trying to divert by thinking you know anything about me. what is the logical thing in anything you've said please? because you hear people saying... you can't even compose English well sef, the statement is ..."being logical" not been logical. Then also how do you describe "they speak irrational"? oga it's they speak irrationally. Your issue has now been fully identified & it was just as I suspected. keep fooling yourself with words above your thought level you hear? No wonder... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by refreshrate: 10:31pm On Oct 04, 2015 |
400billionman: My dear, if you attend some of these big churches, at the end of the service uncountable times, people you dont know will run to you, " Brother please, i do not have transport money to go home, or i have not eaten today, one even said hunger is killing her family ". Now what is the function of the church they are attending every sunday when the pastor has and maintains 4 personal cars ?
I weep for the black man.. Whilst you weep when the government people deprive you of your right by embezzlement of public funds yet you go and soloicit contracts from them. they tell you they're coming to your neighborhood and you give your younger ones flags to hold and stand by the road side waving at them please weep for yourself also. Did you see the pastor forcing anyone to come to his church and give all their money as offering? Is the situation any better in front of the mosque after jumat service on Fridays? You can honestly say within yourself that the churches never helped anyone? You complain about them having money yet you expect them to assist the poor. if they don't have the money please how are they expected to carry this out? The lady who came to you, as a better person than the pastors what did you do? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by refreshrate: 10:24pm On Oct 04, 2015 |
hensben: I should be grateful to those schools? How? Wealthy men in the society should be owning schools that they pay 950k as school fees not house of God. The best academicians are still not from this schools so what are we talking about. Only in Nigeria you will see a church the wife or son becoming G.O after the death of the pastor. That's business venture. No wonder everybody want to own a church even an unbeliever due to they are beginning to see the exotic life this big pastors live. During GEJ tenure na one of them take get his own private jet, His churches dey the whole world too? If you observe very well it's now a competition amongst big pastors in Nigeria to own a private jet. I'm not clear on how people's decisions to give to their churches become an issue for you. Did the pastors work with government and embezzle funds? Did they force anyone to give them money which they used to buy the private jets or build the schools? Did they borrow money from you? Or what exactly is your issue with them? If you can't afford the fees then go to another school they have not asked or forced you to attend their schools either so leave them the fvck alone if you don't like their lifestyle. if you have an issue with the fees being too high last I checked there as no clamp on you owning your own school or private jet for that matter it's only in Nigeria pastor is succeeded by his wife or son, did you see him also point a gun at anyone's head and say you must come to my church? why all this? leave Jesus out of this for now. I'm sick and tired of people being baseless in their accusations of these pastors and I really can't see the sense in all your ranting. I think the mediocre lifestyle suits you don't force others into it. oh yeah and by the way I'm Muslim! |
Politics › Re: Fired Staff Exposes KFC (pictured) by refreshrate: 1:20pm On Oct 04, 2015 |
would love to see the employment letter of this child. meanwhile her picture day there. if she's breached anything she'll understand the meaning of anger is a small madness and hers will be cured by force when she gets letter from their lawyers. |
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Politics › Re: $700 Million Raw Cash Found In The Home Of Petroleum Minister, Diezani Alison-ma by refreshrate: 11:52am On Oct 04, 2015 |
and sanusi is there saying Nigerians will no longer stone the devil?
Ok what should we do to this eediot of an OP? |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by refreshrate: 11:38am On Oct 04, 2015 |
hensben: Okay make we leave the jets own how about the schools built for the politicians kids instead of the common man's? No wonder Naija pastors follow policians around for favor. You should be grateful for those schools. Where are the government owned schools what care their products like? You think education should come cheap cry to your government. Where in the world do you get cheap good education? Those pastors have stood in where your government has failed and you come here to whine? or do you see the government allocating a budget to them for their schools? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by refreshrate: 9:35am On Oct 04, 2015 |
hyfr: JESUS JESUS JESUS JESUS!!! This dude is making me crazy. Pls receive sense You do realize he was being sarcastic? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pope US Visit Proves Nigerian Pastors Wrong!!! by refreshrate: 9:33am On Oct 04, 2015 |
globalresource: @ op.. Keep hating.. .you will reap hatred in return(not a curse, but law of life). Creflo Dollar asked for money for private Jet and he gave his reasons(not steal). It is left for his congregation to make their decision on that. What the hell is your headache about that? Are you one of the people bankrolling his mission
Politicians are here stealing money.. .You remain helpless. Whereas some of these pastors like Bishop Oyedepo is not on the pay roll of the church. Many who you won't see on the pages of nairaland gives bountifully unto him and they are happy doing it. He has nothing to do with the offering. Most people hating here rarely gives in church or don't attend at all. Whereas we who gives cheerfully don't complain and we are happy doing it.
How would you compare the Pope with other pastors? Have you been to Vatican city and see for yourself.. .you would be surprise at the sight of beauty and magnificence(my due respect to the pope)
Your hatred won't lead you no where. Keep googling pastors around the world.. Many have connected with them for the supernatural prosperity and you are mourning
My advice to you.. ..keep wailing. I don't expect you to grab the spiritual importance of honoring our men of God
You had celebrate when you see Jay Z with private jet but wail when Men of God use the same
Over to you destiny wailers I really don't know why you're going on to explain all of these to this lot. 1. it's not their money 2. Oyedepo or any of them did not come to ask them for money 3. Non of the pastors borrowed money from them to buy jet. why not allow them? if they choose to take panadol for another person headache, allow them, abi? |
Phones › Re: Lg G3, Anyone??? by refreshrate: 9:20am On Oct 04, 2015 |
Bratking: Don't lie, bruv. G3 UI lags more than it should because of the power tripping QHD res. The S801 chipsets, though powerful, alas, weren't strong enough to facilitate a smooth seamless performance. GSMARENA said something of similar nature in one of their reviews of LG G3 last year. I'll lie about this because? GSM arena said? Youve never owned the G3 me I do. Then you come here to tell a concocted story and I tell you it's not so, you say I shouldn't lie. you're sure you're OK? I ask once again, why would I lie about the phone? I would seriously advice you give a very serious & sincere explanation. |
Romance › Re: I'm 15, My GF Is 13, We Did It But She Didn't Bleed, Why? by refreshrate: 12:41am On Oct 04, 2015 |
derinadesina: Jisus...a 15 year old talking about sexing his 13year old girlfriend!!! You should be reading your books!!! Like seriously what is this.... :  He was 23 in january check his other posts instead of disturbing Jesus |
Romance › Re: I'm 15, My GF Is 13, We Did It But She Didn't Bleed, Why? by refreshrate: 12:21am On Oct 04, 2015 |
Same dude claiming 23years old in january?
mtscheew liar |
Family › Re: Men, Go Within! by refreshrate: 11:49pm On Oct 03, 2015 |
MizMyColi: Violence is not the answer. Totally agree with you ma, but not provoking someone into that position also requires wisdom, why do the women not apply it? Just trying to understand whats behind the psyche |
Family › Re: Why Do Poor People Have More Children Than The Rich? by refreshrate: 11:46pm On Oct 03, 2015 |
sam90s: I'm Nigerian not English, and François Hollande has a shaky command of English, I guess that makes you better than him right? and I'm on vacation right now, I take a stroll every evening, go on take the easiest way out! 'Guy stroll abeg' really? while you're at it, compare Dangote's diction to Femi Fani Kayode and decide who inspire you most, ode. Is your father an idiot or your mother raped by orangutans on a regular basis? who the fvk are you referring to as ode? Thunder fire your entire clan bloody idiot, you must be mad. You for no school at all na so we will know its only money that matters to you r3tard. both fani kayode or dangote which one you be? beast |
Politics › Re: Ambode Showed Up At Quilox Nightclub Last Night; Nigerians React On Twitter by refreshrate: 10:39pm On Oct 03, 2015 |
happney65: Wasnt it Agbaje that turned it into a Yoruba versus Igbo thing just to win votes?Dont we have Igbo commisioners in Lagos since 1999 and there was no wahala..But when Agbaje turned it into a Yoruba versus Igbo thing,People got angry as you cant tell your visitors to leave the house for you..A good visitor would take good care of he's Hosts something we Yoruba's have done every Nigerian Tribe... ...and now your supposed better candidate is doing this. now please say the igbos were wrong una never start. |
Family › Re: Men, Go Within! by refreshrate: 6:35pm On Oct 03, 2015 |
Question from me is when they're doing these things to completely piss the guy off, don't they know? |
Politics › Re: Fmr President Goodluck Jonathan Shoping At An Apple Store In London by refreshrate: 6:22pm On Oct 03, 2015 |
Buhari be like this OP no sabi anything o where are the apples? Minini apple? Damboro they are not selling any apple to him. |
Family › Re: Why Do Poor People Have More Children Than The Rich? by refreshrate: 5:23pm On Oct 03, 2015 |
sam90s: Tell me when it cures cancers, remember Wizkid sells more concert tickets overall than Femi Kuti, that doesn't mean he makes more sense. Says the guy who couldn't compose a simple sentence in English. Guy stroll abeg |
Celebrities › Re: I Love The Way Lupita Nyongo Styled Her Natural Hair by refreshrate: 9:36am On Oct 03, 2015 |
Snowangel4: Because black is beautiful  you sef dey mind the guy? you get time o |
Politics › Re: See What Boko Haram Did To Cattle After Poisoning Water Sources In Borno..photos by refreshrate: 9:31am On Oct 03, 2015 |
meccuno: quote of the day.......And You Have Won A Fun filled Trip gombe state Your attempt at being funny? Dont lose your day job |
Romance › Re: Why You Should Invest More On Your Siblings Than Your Girlfriend/wife by refreshrate: 8:33am On Oct 03, 2015 |
Macdove02: How does that add value to their lives Someone gives you a response like that and you think he reasons beyond his zippers? you get time i swear! |
Politics › Re: PHOTO: NDLEA Arrests South African-based Nigerian With Drugs by refreshrate: 8:25am On Oct 03, 2015 |
Lalasticlala, seun.
Prove to us youre not tribalistic
FP fast! |
Politics › Re: Adorable Photo Of Former Pres. Jonathan's Grand Daughter by refreshrate: 8:21am On Oct 03, 2015 |
Sanchez01: This is totally uncalled for. She's innocent. Whether or not Jonathan "wasted" the Nation's fund for a wedding remains a topic for another day. No reasonable, right-thinking human would hold something against an innocent baby. Did you see the name of the person you responded to by any chance? |
Politics › Re: See What Boko Haram Did To Cattle After Poisoning Water Sources In Borno..photos by refreshrate: 8:12am On Oct 03, 2015 |
Demigods: I don't even underStand what's going on in pictures The cows are skinny dipping in a natural Jacuzzi |
Phones › Re: Lg G3, Anyone??? by refreshrate: 11:55pm On Oct 01, 2015 |
Bratking: I don't think it's nonsense though. Lots of people using G3 wants out, and I don't think it's only because of the crappy battery life. Nnot sure about that sir. Using this since June last year, still loving it like cray! Battery life what? If the battery dies get a new one from LG computer village you think that phone is meant for management trainees? you dont want to know what that battery powers. abeg! |
Phones › Re: Lg G3, Anyone??? by refreshrate: 11:49pm On Oct 01, 2015 |
Bratking: Every smartphone lags in some capacity, some slightly more noticeable than others.
To enjoy your S5, it's highly recommended that you seek out the snapdragon variant, and upon acquisition, proceed to upgrade it to the latest available lollipop firmware, prompto. This should address any lingering software/hardware discrepancies like lag and overheating issues.
[s]On G3, I read somewhere that it tends to freeze up sometimes, and the UI can get jerky when it overheats[/s]. The S5 of any model don't do this, even on their worst days. Lie from the pit of hell concocted by the devil himself! owned said mobile since june last year never experiences such oga. when i say never i mean NEVER!!!! |
Politics › Re: Governor Udom Emmanuel Builds House Just 4 Months In Govt - Sahara Reporters by refreshrate: 11:15pm On Oct 01, 2015 |
hansyllo: [size=8pt][size=8pt]APC LEAVE AKWA IBOM ALONE. I REPEAT APC LEAVE AKWA IBOM ALONE[/size][/size] when they have nothing to offer in their own states what do you expect? tsetse fly party |