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Warship:
The only projectile technology they knew was guided rocket aka missile.

If they knew how to build bullet/shell technology, Nigeria troops would have perished and vanquished.

If they had gone an extra mile to successfully build a jet engine technology, Lagos, Kano and Kaduna, would have been reduced to rumbles like Berlin.

a jet engine needs precision and funds. biafra didn't have all that. The technical know how simply wasn't there

aresa:
1. I asked you to lay out the benefits that puts PIB ahead of hundreds of thousands of jobs, self sufficiency, in furl, gas petroleum products, petrochemicals for our factories and industries, but you instead came up with the same lame empty PIB nonsense.

2. It is very foolish, irresponsible and total abdication of responsibilities to set aside and deny ourselves the benefits explained above until we resolve years of unending and stalled PIB policy that has nothing to do with private investments needed to eradicate our immediate problems in less than 2 years.

3. It is also very idiotic, stupid and imprudent to tell investors not to invest and create jobs in our country because some thoughtless ipob on NL think we should not do so till we pass some PIB nonsense.


I hope you are not the smartest joker in your village because if so, your village is in trouble..

Okay it's confirmed . You're irredemable.

The benefits include : not having to spend a dime of our forex which is scarce, and guaranteeing more than one refinery setting up shop here, which means more jobs, competition and more tax revenue in future.

I'm sure you're still wondering how. Anyways wallow in your retrogression.

Warship:
Sometimes you talk without deep research and reasoning.

One reason we lost the war, was because no one knew how to build ammunitions technology

If the Biafrans, knew how to produced bullets and shells, the money they spent importing one bullet, would have been used to produce 100 local bullets/shells.

The capacity to produced 100 local bullets/shell for one foreign bullet/shell, would have meant more bullets/shells for Biafra troops.

So the technology that we lacked that rendered Biafra weak is the bullet/shell technology and also jet engine technology

Till today, bullet/shell technology and jet engine technology are yet to be developed.

I think you have a point. They hadn't mastered the art of creating projectiles. those tanks were the 1st step to inventing the wheel .....eeerrmmm that being said, they were still ages nd miles ahead of the federal govt. If that momentum in science had been sustained, by now we'd have greatly improved in our engineering . This nigeria is just cursed n retrogressive sha.

aresa:
I was actually expecting you to intelligently articulate how and why PIB should have been considered ahead of 10% that guarantees us hundreds of thousands of jobs, self sufficiency in petrol, gas, petrochemicals, petroleum products and fertilizer..

I've articulated all the benefits we are getting for our 103 Forex so why is it so hard for your to intelligently opine the benefits of PIB against 10% forex?

You are obviously too shallow and unintelligent to expand your thoughts beyond shouting PIB all over the place


Stop acting like a 2 year old kid, support your PIB argument with facts, explain to us the benefits and why we must consider PIB before giving 10% forex to Dangote refinery..


Please keep quiet if you can not expand your vocabulary beyond one (PIB) word....

let's see if you're redeemable bros!

Let me come down to illustrations, if you were a very buoyant investor interested in coming into nigerias petroleum sector, what would you consider first? Viability, security for your investment and a LAW that protects your bizness against arbitrary govt actions. Now if these variables aren't available, you will not invest right? Now the PIB is that law, and it hasn't been passed, thus no sensible investor will throw billions into an enviroment without such laws.
If you were the govt, and hoping to privatise that sector, what would you do? You would first create an enviroment that's attractive for investment by providing security,clear cut statutes defining and guiding operations in that sector. I'm sure you 1st action wouldn't be to give out your scarce forex to one company. Even dangote needs these laws to protect his investment, so another govt doesn't come in to change the rules. I hope this is as elementary as possible for anybody. Even our telecoms sector wouldn't have seen the light if the communications bill establishing NCC wasn't passed . Mtn, econet, glo wouldn't have opened shop.

realjoker:
. Why you guys are Wasting your precious time educating all these nitwitz. They have lost their sense of sanity ever since when their hero lost in a FREE and FAIR election. If you keep on arguing with them from now to God's know when, they will still keep on believing their deluded thought. They are irredeemable. Moreover the news is as fake as the link the Ugand@n op provided, and you guys should have killed the argument RIGHT from inception

did u protest in 2012 at ojota?!!

otumopkor:
You need to go to china and see how it works there. No matter the population cabals are needed to spearhead the development of the country whether for good or bad. Not that i support PIB's tactics am just stating the obvious here.

mr oga, even in china one company isn't allowed to operate a monopoly in a sector there's always room for several cabals, which helps for more jobs n competition, abi in ur own china one company controls chinas petroleum sector? Na wa to u

aresa:
1. PIB and Refinery are 2 different and unrelated issues so of what relevance is PIB to the topic.?

2. If you truly think PIB also can eradicate our fuel issues with more than enough left to export and generate forex for us, self sustain us with fertilizer, give our power plants GAS to produce electricity, self sustain our factories and industries with petrochemicals and created hundreds of thousands of jobs all in less than 2 years, then common sense dictates that you offer sane and rational justifications to support your PIB argument with.

3. Repeating PIB left and right all over the place without any relevant argument to place it over 10% forex is redundant, meaningless and just ignorant babbling..


Please get lost if you have nothing intelligent and stimulating to offer beyond throwing silly PIB nonsense you can not expand on to support your nonsense with..

I don't believe what this buffoon typed here!! “ PIB and refineries are unrelated”.. The full meaning of PIB is petroleum ind.... This daft beast says they are not related, hehe

Anyways with this I know ure a blackhole.

BEN BRUCE should have ruled nigeria not Gej, as for buhari I'm still trying to figure out what hit us in nigeria!!!!

aresa:
What and who is dumb is you substituting sensible and rational thoughts with the location of the CBN, that's got to be the most idiotic and puerile comment ever..

1. 10% is not monopoly and our economy is not in one man's hand. Look for the meaning of monopoly in the dictionary..


2. 100% - 10% = 90%

3. The above Math means we have 90% left for the rest of the economy so saying we placed our economy in the hands of one man means you either don't know your math, you are shallow, unintelligent or just extremely slow.

4. Obviously, knowing the location of CBN HQ doesn't mean you are capable of formulating sensible, rational and intelligent thoughts.

so govt must spend 10percent of her scarce forex to gain one refinery as opposed to not spending a dime, and radically ensuring the PIB is signed, which will ensure lots of refineries on different scales(dangote inclusive) in the nearest future!.

I'm beginning to suspect u were part of the ojota crowd in 2012, as usual clearly unable to reason rationally concernign this issue. Or maybe you're a minion that's spreading propaganda to justify that stupid govt move.

aresa:
What monopoly are you crying over?


The FG gave out refinery licences to tons of entities so the question is how many of them made use of the licenses?


You tried to build a refinery and the FG denied you?


You people just argue and spew rubbish with zero thoughts and sense..

if there was no law establishing ncc and regulating the communications sector do you think mtn , etisalat, airtel etc would have come into naija. All those ppl with licences will not spend a dime is the pib isn't passed into law. Dangote knows he can call up the president when he likes plus he's got political clout that's why he's not scared of the pib bot being passed.

An example of biz men that invested in sectors that had no laws backing them up, were ppl like ibeto cement. Did u see how the fed govt sabotaged him in favor of dangote till gej got into power, I rmba how dangote controlled price of cement then, and it sold for above 2800 when ibeto opened the price crashed. If there were laws regulating that sector ibeto wouldn't have gone through what he faced then. Well anyways I'm wasting my time here. Let him pass the pib instead of feedn dangote our forex to build his private coy.

aresa:
Apples and Oranges analogy and totally irrelevant comparison..


1. Solving nearly all our problems and create hundreds of thousands of jobs with 10% is prudent and just 10% of 100% so what's the headache when we are not talking about 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 90 or even 100%?

2. Do we still not have 80% left to go around?


Please find something better to cry over...

With this move ie 10% going to dangote, a monopoly by dangote is ensured, with the PIB various refineries are built( more jobs and competition), you prefer we spend 10percent of our forex for a monopoly, lesser jobs, no competition, high price etc.


Like I said, you're finished if you can't reason.

aresa:
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Don't get mad, just highlighted what's shaping your irrational and illogical arguments.

Common sense should tell you that with low reserves, you prioritize based on strict national, economic and interets that solves your practical and imediate problems.


Giving 10% of your forext to eradicate completely solve the fuel problems you'e been unable to take care of for decades and still have many more left to export for the same foreign exchange is a good and huge bargain.

Giving 10% of your forext to eradicate completely the petroleum products problems you'e been unable to take care of for decades and still have many more left to export for the same foreign exchange is a good and huge bargain.

Giving 10% of your forext to eradicate completely the fertilizer problems you'e been unable to take care of for decades and still have many more left to export for the same foreign exchange is a good and huge bargain.

Giving 10% of your forext to eradicate completely the GAS problems you'e been unable to take care of for decades and still have many more left to export for the same foreign exchange is a good and huge bargain.


Giving 10% of your forext to create hundreds of thousands of jobs and in the same process sole multiple problems is a good and huge bargain.

Your problem is shortsightedness and a serious case of penn wise, pound foolish mentality..

Woow!! Ok how about not giving 10 percent of your scarce forex and radically pushing for the PIBs quick passage, that way FG gets to not just save her forex, but also allow for loads of investors, that will come in with their funds and build their refineries. NOTE I ddnt say REFINERY! Atleast the sector becomes competitive, price mechanisms come into play and the govt make loads of cash from taxation. All these without spending a dime. You are finished, if u can't reason along this path.

Dangote is going to be a monopoly.

uniklinkum:
Stupidity is clearly the only skill set you have. So to discuss issues on insecurity in the northern Nigeria, the US Secretary of state should visit stakeholders in southern Nigeria. The logic of you and CAN officials is not only barbaric but also akin with that of stone age men.

No you are actually the ediat here!! Now when buhari went to saudi arabia to discuss terrorism, was his 1st point of call the house of a sheik or whatever, do you not know what a diplomatic visit is? Okay who and does the sultan represent? When did the sultan become a representative or communication\diplomatic line for determining nigerias affairs? CAN is asking these questions.

aresa:
Good for us we know what's driving and behind your anti Nigerian and illogical rants..

Beats me why you keep boring us with your illogical and irrational rants when we in fact we know that you are ipob, anti Nigerian and what's best for Nigeria is bad news to you.

who's this clown trying to garner up sentiments? Even if I'm ISIS, were not talking about biafra or whatever, were discussing buharis bias in giving out 10pervent of a nations forex to one man who happpens to be from his ethnicity and starving all other biznesses of forex, that's the bone of contention here. So give me facts and stop running about like a headless chicken quoting me off topic.

EVarn:
It is a simple matter of common sense; innoson imports most of its parts from Germany,airliners are heavy consumers of forex because they refuse to deal in the local curency,banks are sellers of forex and would therefore naturally clamour for more even if it is harmful(so far they make their profit),telecom firms consume forex indiscriminately because they also deal in foreign currency; most of these companies are not even listed on the stock exchange.Should we dash out our forex to importers rather than manufacturers?.
Let them find ways to source local components for their services.
About the PIB,I think that is a matter for the legislature; if the executive were to be given emergency powers,they could adopt models of the PIB to develop the oil sector.As it is,we are at the mercy of greedy legislatives and if I recall correctly,PIB has been on the table since Obasanjo's administeration,this current administeration claims that it will unbundled the bill into smaller sections for easy passage,let see how that goes.lt is common sense.

its amazing dangote is the only manufacturer in naija( interesting), as I just learnt telecoms coys consume forex, so going by your analysis, how do u know dangote isn't trading with the forex giving to him, and if he needs forex to purchase refinery parts that he would use in assembling his refinery here what's the difference between him an innoson that's bringing in SOME parts of the vehicles he's assembling here?. My man stop tryn to justify that move its clearly a bigoted move.
As for the PIB which you excused the presidency of, I am aware hes sent one bill to the senate and it wasn't PIB, it. Was cattle GRAZING reserves bill. Our president showed his interests was more with cattle rearing that ensuring investors in our petroleum sector. So oga leave that equivocal explanation.

EVarn:
Let us reason objectively before making comments on national issues.If dangote is not given forex,how do you expect him to complete his refinery project?; this same refinery,when completed,has the capacity to conserve 40% of our forex and even earn us foreign income from our oil producing neighbours like Chad who don't have refineries!,with this refinery,we are capable of becoming a net exporter of petroleum products.
Considering that he is also constructing a deep-sea underwater pipeline that has the capacity to singlehandedly assist us in transporting gas across the south of Nigeria and solve a huge part of our power problem,I will say that he deserves all the forex he can get.

dangote isn't the only enterpreneur sourcing for forex, innoson, telecoms, airliners, banks are all sourcing for forex which will help keep those industries afloat, now explain why dangote has to be given prefrence over the rest. And bro do u not know if the PIB is signed the fg will not even need to give dangote any forex , why?!! Cos loads of fdi will help fund the project as their interests will be statutorily protected(PIB). So why will anybody support forex for dangote but non for other biz men. Can we be this blind or are we just simply not intelligent.

emiye:
Well i cant blame you, i suspect you had a very weak education. A man involved in an enormous project like building the largest single refinery in Africa will obviously need lots of FOREX. The benefits of such project when completed to d current pressure on forex is second to none.

I tried to ignore u but no!!! Wondering if you're mad!! If in a country of 180 million one man gets 10percent of all forex,( no govt agency can boast of that), and you don't understand what's happening. No wonder he's(dangote) the only person that can build a refinery when the PIB hasn't been signed, cos he knows indirectly the nnpc and the presidency got his back. So he's probably going to have a head start b4 they finally agree to sign the PIB and other investors come to build their refineries. GOVT OF NORTHERN interests. ONLY A FOOL thinks buhari is working for all of nigerias interests.

Stop spreading falsehood, u bloggers are shameless!! That wasn't why he was relieved!! Stop spreading lies.

QuotaSystem:
Yup. And Buhari is STILL a man of integrity (i'm sure you realize I'm not about to argue this fact with a rabid PMB hater).

@ bolded.... I'm sure you've conveniently forgotten that Kerry visited the Present in Abuja immediately after meeting the Sultan.

CAN just disgraced itself, imagine the response it got.

ofcos the former PTF chairman under nigerias undisputed most thieving govt is clean. Anyways as u make ur bed u shAll lie on it, whether its partisan driven or jes plain ignorance. Dollar is 415 were counting. As for kerry, his 1st point of call was to a tribal leader ie the head of islam in naija, knowing there r more than a hundred traitional rulers, and its equity in thine eyes.

QuotaSystem:
Why should John Kerry visit CAN?

Mind you his job description does not include pandering to the insecurities of bigots.

that's how ppl like u blindly shouted buhari is a man of intergrity! Why did he visit sultan of sokoto, to discuss nigerias issues. So the head of islam in nigeria. You think US doesn't know the political terrain of nigeria. The same way has put northern moslems in all security positions and viable position n u still blindly thinks its equity. CAN raised a clandestine move by the US, I'm with them on this one shekina.

sarrki:
Nop, it's the aftermath of the the last administration we are feeling now .

However I know it will get better .

was it also the aftermath in 1984? Lousy historians, no wonder una shout change put grandpapa as our president,

useless basket mouth prof, that said there's no subsidy. Granting interviews right and left, misleading the ignorant populace. These old degenerates

nairayouthcom:
the man self resemble animal..

he must be from calabar


@least a little respect for our Mr P

Quote me and thunder fire you and your generations

youre a retrogressive backward idiat!! Awaiting ur thunder!!. Africa and love for irrelevant values, with no progressive inclination.

thedarkside:
this not about the fg no more......criminals hijacked the area..........burn the place down and abandon the area....


we dismantel the pipelines our selfs and melt the pipes and use them to build warships....

ajaokuta will be running soon...we need the scrap-metal for something else...

abandon the south-south and the south-east..

joker!! Ur gothan knights on his way.

thedarkside:
i was thinking about this too...if you blow up the militants,wouldnt you blow up the pipelines too??...that you have to repair again??..



very tricky wan...i would just take out the,oil from the south-south,from the national budget and only manage what we have......

all oil-companys in the world should be prohibited from making business with the militants....

then,,,,we can start blowing up everything...

but the moment oil production is stopped the militants will stop blowing them up! I'm sure they can drill it! So thts exactly wht they want. Zero oil exploration. Not this leech system of parasitism FG is operating.

I thought the idea was to mitigate or stop the bombing of pipelines, I'm curious here but wen these gunships engage the militants, will their missiles only destroy flesh and leave the pipes? I think its same thing! The pipes still get blown ! My thots

AxeurdaddyIX:
Lol. Google info. You can't get the real deal if you don't belong.

Awumen!!!!!!

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I'm shocked at how dumb todays nairalanders are!!!! The last paragraph clearly stated it was joke by op and ppl are still here abusing donald trump .... Dumb nairalanders

[quote author=MusaOseh post=48512646][/quote]but that region recorded the greatest pogrom in nigerias history as igbos numbering over 30thousand were massacred in the middle belt in 1966. beat that so much for friendliest ppl. Truth Is I've dated a tiv girl, she was very lovely, busty , slim, a super cook and very noce. I think middle belt ladies rock and did I forget to mention she wasn't capital intensive. very good under the sheets too.....

mikolo80:
what was wrong with his past

ehehen that's exactly why I said let go of whiz kid babymama stories n read history.

naijaforlife:
@Revolt. You have posted one of the best comments yet on Nairaland only to taint it with an unnecessary and irrelevant political comment that is perhaps borne out of dislike for PMB. For your information, PMB's past and present indicate he stands for something rather than fall for everything like your apparently preferred candidate who lost in the last general election. Whatever that something is, PMB's genuine supporters (not pretenders on nairaland) appreciates it and would vote for him over and over again. That kid we are all proud of did not start learning maths in one year to be a national champion. She must have obtained the supports of her teachers, parents, other family and friends to perfect her skills. Perhaps she may not even win similar competition in other subjects because her strength is in the numerical subjects. Some other students may excel in arts. We all have our areas of strength and weaknesses. Your constructive criticism and proffered solution is what this nation requires. THINK POSITIVE, ACT POSITIVE, ROME WAS NOT BUILT IN A DAY. WE SHALL GET THERE.

Thanks for every but as it stands that grandad we have as a president was the head of state in 84, and was there for 18 months, at his exit, the nation was worse of for it but most notable was his NEPOTISM and BIGOTRY. In 2016 he's still repeatin the same fit and policies that failed woefully in 1984. Should we even talk about his time as ptf chairman under abacha. Where over 50 billion dollars was looted etc etc etc For solution , Nigeria is broke and can't fund her sectors don't you think the wisest thing to do is give out licences for fdi n private companies to come handle these sectors? No our president is so scared of capitalism cos his ppl can't compete. No agenda in fact he's about to borrow money to pay salaries.

plenitude:
Lol we really don't know about his past. But we
are knowing much about his present... Hope you
kinda enjoying it?

SAI BABA!!!! We will vote him in 2019 if his alzhemers nvr reach vicious stage!!