₦airaland Forum

fergie001:
Who are the necessary parties that weren't considered?

Sorry, it was a mistake. I was meant to say Gawuna is not a party. The tribunal should have considered this. Everyone in the petition has their position. That's why Buni was important in Eyitayo Jegede vs Akeredolu.

fergie001:
NNPP killed their case. They might get lucky though but the were too lackadaisical about it.

The tribunal Judges were like the Judges in Oyetola v Adeleke, going here and there and were more in particular about attacking the Kwankwassiya supporters. How can you award the winner to Gawuna who was not a Party. You rather award same to the Petitioner (another preliminary mistake)

Lastly, the issue of membership have been handled by higher Courts, in the spirit of stare decisis the tribunal had no rights whatsoever to sit on appeal against it. Definitely will be killed.

On the issue of unstamped, unsigned ballot papers NNPP went to sleep, called one witness when it was clear that APC did the same thing. INEC now helped them by as well going into trance with their replies.

On the issue at Appeal, the deduction of votes will be sustained, and perhaps inconclusive. It is the SC that will bail out Yusuf if they play their cards well.

The Court works with evidence and facts!

The tribunal failed to consider the necessary parties required to be part of the petition. It won't stand. Related case Eyitayo Jegede vs Akeredolu.

Winning the ticket is one issue

Winning the election is a more bigger issue.

I don't see the PDP allowing the APC the them here.


To me, it's a wrong calculation. Don't start the fight you can't win!

I tell una oooo!

Go and waste your money. You saw the letter submitted to NYSC duly signed that he returned back to complete his service.

Concerning the 33k, I don't know how this was disproved in court ooo but if the total numbers of real votes cannot be ascertained, Labour party candidate can't be declared winner. I keep reminding people of Natasha case. It is very simple, let them do their magomago, carry your evidence go to court, no technicality will cover that.

Varunpulyani:
Who go sign for remi Tinubu breast?

This is not a good post. You can do better.

Morbeta11:
The truth is that I supported and still supports Peter Obi, but the truth is that we have a President now and he is Bola Tinubu until Supreme courts says otherwise. Be that as it may, I cannot insult the person of Mr. President no matter my political divide and belief. By age he is far my senior, in achievement he is far above me and I have to respect and reverence that seat he occupies. I don't support all these careless insults from nairalanders to either Tinubu, PO or Atiku. Let's learn to be civil.

God bless you. I like this post.
Well mannered!

garfield1:
True.in criminal matters like I told you concerning kebbi and sokoto,it must be proven beyond reasonable doubt.there must be no opposition.all evidence must align.unfortunwtely,it is not so in kebbi and sokoto

I couldn't follow both again because of my busy schedule.

garfield1:
The judiciary esp appeal and apex are superb

Only time will tell.

TheOldGods:
bro, all these are stories, the Nysc DG said that even the letter heading is strange, all these are stories chief. Which DSS, did they come from dss office with the DSS stamp and signature, the so called dss man said no. The point is, high court is state court, they were bought or wanted to protect their interests sinple

Ok.

ValarDoharis:
Bro, the judiciary is very corrupt. All institutions in Nigeria are gone!

That's the state of the country.

TheOldGods:
the constitution already states that, if you submit fake document under oath you have committed perjury. The certificate was submitted as part of Electoral screening, bro, the judges just have the judgement just to protect their jobs for the meantime before mbah appeals, which is now Edeoga

Did you follow the case when the DSS was brought in as witness?

The Nigeria secret police blamed the NYSC over the misplacement of Mbah’s original file, adding that the scheme was also unable to trace to whom or which state or states of the federation 12 of its certificates, A808297 to A808308 were issued.

The security agency said “the failure of the NYSC to maintain a proper record keeping system was the cause of its inability to trace Peter Ndubuisi Mbah’s initial certificate”, adding “It would be wrong for the NYSC to blame Peter Ndubuisi Mbah for its own failure in record keeping”.

Giving evidence, the subpoenaed DSS Deputy Director, Operations and Strategic Department, said the security agency commenced investigation into the discharge certificate controversy following a petition to it by Dr. Mbah dated February 8, 2023.

Mohammed said the investigation revealed: “That there were exchanges of correspondences between Mbah and the NYSC at every stage of their interactions. Mbah did not take any action without the NYSC's approval.

“That Mbah's file with the NYSC got missing at some point in time and NYSC started using a temporary file for him. For instance, in NYSC response to his application for deferment, the file number was LA/10/1532, while in their response to his remobilization application, the file number was LA/01/1532/T.

He added: “That there was a mix up in his record as a result of the missing file. That the difference in Mbah's certificate number compared to others that were mobilised at the same time, is due to the inability of NYSC to trace the initial file where the first certificate A678 was.”

According to him, “from the documents presented by NYSC regarding certificate numbers, about twelve (12) certificate numbers (A808297-A808308) which includes that of Mbah, remained unaccounted for in the eight ( series by the NYSC.”

Mohammed stated further stated "That the law firm, Udeh &Associates where Mbah served, cleared him for his monthly clearance for eleven (11) months covering January-June, 2002 and May-August, 2003 as well as his final clearance in September, 2003 covering the period of his first mobilization and reinstatement indicated that he served, hence no need for him to forge certificate.

How do you judge this? NYSC did not debunk this. They confess this error.

ValarDoharis:
The small parties are being targeted. NNPP and LP. They're trying to insist on a two party system.

No be only small parties ooo. Any big party wey no Sabi defend him mandate go lose am too. Our constitution is bad, our electoral system bad, our legislators are bad and the judiciary has no option.

Nothing will change.

TheOldGods:
oh, so I can submit a fake certificate which is not only illegal, but has a punishment of jail, and once I am cought, I can simply say, that that since it's not required by law, then they should disregard it and follow the other certificate which is not forged. In other words, if we catch a thief with a gun, but since the gun is empty and hasn't shot anyone, we can simply allow him to go because he has not shot anyone.

Do you want the judges to outside the constitution?

The only thing we can do to get things right is by throwing away that nonsense constitution and get a reliable and better version.

TheOldGods:
lol, where you there? I was there live. The judges said that Nysc certificate is not a requirement for contesting, so even if the certificate was forged, then they don't care lol, and you talk about emotions. Suddenly the judges said that, mbah submitted the Nysc certificate,but inec did not attach it lol, who does that, submit and attachments nah another meaning now

This is what I am saying oooo! The judge followed what was written in the constitution. The petitioner lawyer should have done better by focusing more on the electoral fraud rather than the unneeded NYSC certificate.

Why not choose a better country?

TheOldGods:
which judgement, lol, what did the so called judges say about the results that was taken to Abuja and reduced to 16k suddenly from 30k, dey play. We all know that state court will go for mbah, make him come win for appeal and supreme nah

Let's wait and see. You guys need to take away emotions from things like this. Let's face the reality, the judges won't grant you a prayer you didn't request, they will work with evidence you provided. Those evidences must not contradict each other. God knows, I always want the will of the masses to prevail but how will it prevail when the petitioner fails to proof his case.

drugBaronTINUBU:
U trained ur children well but here u are Supporting evil and trying to bend things to suit ur agenda

I pity those children because it's certain they have a very wrong father and wrong lessions has been passed to them

Which kain human being be this? Did I tell you I support a candidate or a party? I am only pointing out what really happened in the court. I explained the constitution here. Besides, I give reason why the judgement won't favour the Labour party candidate.

In fact, my children are happy seeing their economist father explaining the Nigerian constitution beautifully well.

I have said it times without number, I have no political party because I always want speak the truth. I am a genuine religious leader, my soul and integrity can't be bought. My father was a party chairman, he tried me severally before he died but he couldn't capture me.

TheOldGods:
mbah can only win at the state court, and that it. Just like oyetola did, I keep saying, only apeal and supreme can sack mbah, state court is state court

I can bet it with everything I have that Mbah won't be sacked. Read the judgement, you will understand why.

ValarDoharis:
What you're seeing is state captured judiciary but you're explaining it with law. The judgement is fraudulent in its entirety.

I understand what you are saying but we need to be factual. Nigeria has no other constitution except that of the confused 1999. Therefore, as a lawyer, you need to understand how it used. The Labour party candidate made a big mistake by focusing mostly on the NYSC certificate leaving the major issue which is election result. You must proof your case beyond reasonable doubt if you want to reclaim your mandate. See Natasha, Smart Adeyemi and Olujimi case, you will understand.

drugBaronTINUBU:
U be idiot
If he didn't submit it,
How come INEC cleared the same certificate ?

Foolishness everywhere

Your father is an idiot. I trained my children well, he failed to train you.

garfield1:
No,they are different.if umo Eno waec is forged,then he will go down because waec is a constitutional requirement and outside that,he has no other qualification

Supreme court has ruled in favour of Umo Eno before.

drugBaronTINUBU:
mumu

INEC will now go and clear what is not in their possesion?

why una mumu like this for this country?

You lack manners. Learn to make a constructive argument sensibly.

Is INEC the DSS? Look, you read news and posted the link here and I only asked a very simple reasonable question after reading. Show me where it is written in that news that Mbah submitted the NYSC certificate.

You people always failed to get to the root of election matters before airing your views.

I came here two days ago to say it clearly that Mbah will win at the court. I have no party and I am not a politician but I follow every political issues and express my unbiased view.

I have trained my children never to be biased too. Learn to be polite.

drugBaronTINUBU:
https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2023/07/28/disquiet-in-lps-camp-as-inec-dss-clear-mbah-of-nysc-certificate-forgery

that is ur answer.

if the certificate was not submitted to INEC, what did INEC and DSS now cleared?
you own certificate abi?

Show me where it was written that Mbah submitted it to INEC. Clearance here means, the allegations was cleared.

But Atiku failure to show the total numbers of votes he got to defeat Tinubu is the major issue. I have asked some of the PDP big men during the prosecution of the case at the tribunal. What is the margin of lead? How many votes did your opponents got? Do you have the results duly signed and gotten from the polling units?

This will make him win, not the other fight that may be lost through technicalities.

drugBaronTINUBU:
NYSC DG was called to testify and he said the certificate was forged. which evidence u dey find again?

Was the certificate submitted by Mbah?

Is NYSC Certificate a criteria to hold that position?

All NO!

We need to face the reality.

fergie001:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/punchng.com/breaking-tribunal-affirms-enugu-govs-election/%3famp

I carefully examined the case before making a comment here. I said it. fergie001 corroborated me.

The judgement will favour Umo Eno.

Dapo Abiodun may be sacked considering the Kano and Natasha Kogi case.

fergie001:
rolams, you remember that NYSC conversation?

Yes. We said it here yesterday.

No beat MAN U too much ooo! Just 5 is ok!

Let's see how the judgement will be useful. Any lawyer that can't proof how election is won and lost can't be called one!

Dapo! Dapo!! Dapo Abiodun!!! How many times did I called you?

Hmmm, Ok!