₦airaland Forum

Too bad.

Arrest them all.

AngelicBeing:
Which Ghana, you are joking right, the US will never grant visa free status to shithole countries in Africa

I thought it was visa free though. It made the rounds not too long ago.

Fake news every where.

AngelicBeing:
Donald olusegun olawale Eze Trump policy at work

But Ghana is currently visa free.

It seems trump don't even value Nigerians regardless of status.

The most bigoted, ethnocentric government in the history of Nigeria.

And some people believe these clowns will develop Nigeria.
It's impossible.

Even if they actually try to do something good, they have thrown away the political capital to unite the country and earn trust.
And without trust and unity, they would just labour in vain.

It's a waste of the next four years for buhari.

There is no where in west Africa where the Fulani is as respected as they are in Nigeria.

The girl don ripe.

EvilMetahuman:
if orginal post says you are slow imb.ecile, I'm sure you will agree with it cos you are dumb and brain dead with a virus filled brain.


The common knowledge is gej/okonjo had tsa idea, buhari implemented it 2015 when he came into power.
We all remember how you dolts blamed bhari for implementing TSA and its the reason for recession and not looting by your gej god.

you don't freaking need original post to tell you that. But you are as dumb as original post.

The TSA was implemented partially, you dumb fucck and for good reason.

It was not created by buhari or any of his lackeys. He has zero claim to it.

mysticgal:
who told you so?
better still,all thanks to buhari because your dear Jonathan looted the TSA

Shut up.
The TSA frame work was created by Ngozi. It is an intellectual property.

That is what those countries came to copy. Nobody in buhari's government is smart enough to create that.
Emefiele maybe, but nobody else.

Sagay212:
El rufai will become president of biafrau.d just like atiku is currently. If not that y'all iPods are bunch of cursed mad people, I don't know when tinubu told you animals he wanted to become president. Awon oloriburuku

Thank God you know tinubu will never become president.

If El rufai wants to become a president like nairaland Yorubas were hoping for until he fought with tinubu , nobody in Yoruba land can stop him.

This guy that yaps a lot about how Nigeria can be this and that, sent his son abroad for education.

Well done sir.

enemyofprogress:
Dwarf

Child of hate.

VillagePipu:
Stop replying that guy. He's too hot for you.

Your dumb and lame replies are making all Igbos look stupid.

Her replies may be dumb to you , but it doesn't Change the fact that El rufai will beat tinubu in the North and South in any election.

E go beat am sotay, people go pity am.

Deomelo was even projecting a tinubu/el rufai.

Talk about delusion.

El rufai may yet be president. Events have placed our political future in their hands, but the likes of tinubu will never get there.

We don't like El rufai for anything, he is a dangerous politician.
But when it comes to tinubu, the south will support El rufai.

iammo:


I thank God daily for making me a yoruba man, I thank God for my Education, i thank God for my Open mindedness, I thank God for how Liberal and accomodating my culture made me..

The Yoruba people have the distinct dishonour of engaging in the longest intra ethnic civil war in African history.
The only thing stopping that from re-happening is Nigeria.

The fault-lines are still there between the confederacies.

Richdad50:
Leave for CANADA NOW that you have your two legs before it become Asylum.

Richdad

It's not easy.
If it were, Nigeria would be empty by now.

He has just touched on something that binds most women together.

They will finish him.

Slay queens don't go for evangelism or attend night vigils regularly.
They may come once in a while but that is it.

Any lady that attend any of the above regularly is not a slay queen.

Congratulations, my ika brother.
The light among darkness.

isthatso:
my friend go and read your cartoons or watch nollywood or whatever it is you do, I have had enough of you

You are a nitwit.
One would think we are actually designing a rocket that has to defy gravity and other planetory forces.

Olodo oshi.

isthatso:
each time you post you dig your grave deeper and expose your ignorance, do you how much it costs major manufacturers to develop a new model? It costs hundreds of millions of dollars to billions. The hard work is in R&, manufacturing is the easier bit. But you wouldnt know

$20,000 my arse what a nincompoop!

There is nothing revolutionary about a motor vehicle. You are not designing a rocket.
It's a motor vehicle. I repeat it is a motor vehicle.

The complex part of the design is the engine. That is where the power is and that is the most technical and expensive part of the design.
The established auto dealers don't waste their time on engine design. They just buy.

And Innoson does not need to design his own engines too . He would just copy the likes of Peugeot and Honda and buy from German engine makers.

Guy, are you sure you actually went to school?

isthatso:
You do not know what you are talking about. the hardest part is the design, that is why you will see assembly plants all over the world but design centres are always in advanced countries. We have seen the kind of nonses we come up with in Nigeria and people post on Nairaland

I am done, the bolded part clearly shows i am arguing with a slowpoke.

let me make it clear, i applaud Innoson, they are an asset to Nigeria but they are not manufacturers...YET!! they will get there by God's grace, Rome was not built in a day but what they are doing now is assembly!!! End of!!

So if innoson pays a Swis mechanical engineering company $20,000 for proprietary designs, it would suddenly become a car?
So you actually believe creating a design for a vehicle which is pretty set in stone anyway but with tweaks to ensure originality is more complex than the actual heavy manufacturing?

You are a nitwit. Don't bother discussing topics like this anywhere else.

You are ignorant.

isthatso:
like yourself, trying to be clever by halves

yes they do, there is no major Automobile manufacturer that does not have its own metal stamping plant or/and have intellectual rights to the design. I was only giving examples of what is manufacturing and I specifically mentioned body stamping from metal sheets to body panels. I have already said all manufacturers have suppliers that supply components but to be considered a manufacturer you must MANUFACTURE the core of what you are selling (i.e the chassis and the body) otherwise you are merely an assembler.

THERE IS NO company considered an Automobile MANUFACTURER the doesnt manufacture it's chassis and body or was the one who designed the car and contracted out the manufacture.

you can see the manufacturing/assembly process for every major manufacturer on youtube for instance


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KIal6Z-eWA toyota


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnFDT3iepaY mercedes


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYz5WjXXYPQ ford

where is innosons?

Try not to be a dimwit, what are you manufacturing if all you are doing is assembling things other people (suppliers) have already manufactured or a design that wasnt your creation?

making body panels from flat metal sheets is manufacturing, assembling or welding together CKD parts that someone else has manufactured is assembly

what is manufacturing inside assembly?

You are the one trying to split hairs here.
Most of the process in your video is in annamco let alone innoson.
Innoson prints its logo on his metal sheets. Maybe you need to check his vehicle clearly and visit the site.

I am not saying innoson should not try to enforce more originality in design.
What I am saying is that it is not the most complex problem.
He has already cracked the most important part of the process which is the actual manufacturing.
Enforcing more originality should not be too difficult with government support.

Downgrading his work because the design looks familiar is wrong.

zoedew:
Not quite. Truth is, manufacturing the engine block DESIGNED and made up of raw materials SOURCED by the company in question is when a motor company is said to manufacture a vehicle. It is largely the engine and body design patented to the company that earns it the right to be tagged a vehicle manufacturing company.

And most if not all of them don't manufacture their own engines.

Are they no longer manufacturers?
Is Peugeot no longer manufacturer?

isthatso:
manufacturing is turning sand into windshields, turniang rubber into tyres, turning copper and petrochemicals into electrical cables. turning sheets of metal into body panels, taking parts from suppliers and "coupling" them together is assembly not manufacturing. You are simply putting together what other people have manufactured.


The highlighted part shows how little you know. Assembly is actually the most basic part that is why you can assemble anywhere using relatively unskilled labour, that is also why Aseembly workers get paid the least in any industry.

But none of the established car manufacturers do any of the bolded process. From Toyota, Honda, Peugeot, Mercedes, e. T. c.
None of them.
And those are the standards we are using in this discourse with regards to manufacturing.
If none of them do any of the above. Then who are the manufacturers?

*why is there a proliferation of people on nairaland who think they know but know very little? *

iammo:
Poverty mentality... if you become a president in your next life (because with you poor mindset i doubt you can in this lifetime) Pay your own top aides 30k per month, and see how quickly they would compromise your safety..... besides Revenue and Fiscal Mobilisation commision sets salary and not presidency

Poverty mentality.?
This is coming from a fool supporting a president who said he is poor.
A president who has been marketing poverty as integrity.

You are dense.

isthatso:
The line between assembly and manufacturing can be blurred, times have moved on, the Auto industry is involed in so many complicated alliances and jointventures but to cut a long story short, if you dont have intellectual property to a significant proportion of what makes up the final product, i.e you simply take another man's designs and parts and stick your badge on under license then you cant really be classed as a manufacturer, you are simply assembling.

ther is no shame in assembling, it provides jobs and creates value here in Nigeria. many manufacturers started by assembling other cars under license. e.g lada (Fiat) , Seat (volkswagen) daewoo (Vauxhall/GM)

The most complicated part of vehicle production is not the design.
It's pretty basic.
Innoson can employ some group of gifted mechanical engineering students and get designs.
It won't suddenly translate into a car.

The real test of manufacturing is production. That is the hard work.

iammo:


This is the foolishest comment i have had the pleasure of reading this month , and i honestly got to give you that credit.

You want a Senior Special Adviser and Special Aides , who leterarily Research, document and Present Policies both sensitive and non sensitive to the President, to earn minimum wage similar to that of the civil servants messengers, youth corpers, drivers and cleaners, and you think they simply wont sell off Nigerian Vital Intel to Terrorist, or even get paid to Poison principal Goverment officials

Pray to God to give you better Insight , so that you stop seeing things from the prism of Intense Poverty and you start having rational thoughts deviod of Poor mentality.

PS $1300 monthly is an insult to many goverment officials around the world including africa

I don't even want to bother wasting my time typing basic knowledge you seem too dense to grasp.

Your country is the poverty capital of the world. I repeat, your country is the poverty capital of the world.
Your GDP/capital is less than $5000.
There is no country in the sane world where government officials earn so far above the minimum wage.

Your sycophantic tendency is why you are trying to support stupidity.
Most of you somehow believe buhari will be there forever and his policies will not outlive him.

zoedew:
Manufacturing is making a product from raw materials while assembling is about putting together semi- finished or completely knocked down parts(CKD) to form a product. The answer to the question should be fairly evident!

Then there is no vehicle manufacturer in the world going by this definition.

You are just getting to know about it because we now have a Nigerian Toyota.

I keep hearing that UN patronise perforce, but I have never seen their vehicle in any foreign war zone.

I only saw a picture of their vehicle with the UN inscription in Nigeria.

Anyway, to each their own.

iammo:
Abuja is an expensive city, their take home is less than $1,500.. and the have alot of pressures from the commuinity. In all fairness to them without passing General Nigerian fustration on them, i think it isnt really much

Abuja is expensive because buhari runs an expensive government.

If I get there tomorrow and I slash their collective pay to the minimum wage similar to governments around the world, the cost of living in Abuja will slide down instantly.

You are not a patriot. You are just a sycophant.

For the poverty capital of the world.

Compare that to their colleagues in Britain, and you will realise that we are being governed by locusts.