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Backwater like Ghana having surplus judges etc. That is crazy. Not even US or UK has enough of those.

Just30:
Their country have always lacked Technical know how and it didn't start today...

Nkrumah had to give them the surplus of Judges, teachers, doctors, nurses and etc from Ghana and also allow the Ghanaian taxpayer to pay them.... Just so that Kenya can have a functioning gov't when they gain their independence.

We are many here with same - Ghana was brought to debate - because we just could not see anything praiseworthy in pictures.

vaxx:
maybe you have glaucoma

That is data. Anyone can cook data. Development should manifest itself in real stuff. You messed up political democracy is based on every incoming gov cooking data.

The reality in naked eye test says NOPE.

Just30:
The ones that consistently rank above your country

Ghanaians ended and still end everywhere. It's called the brain drain. What is left in Ghana are dredges like you. Kenya justice system was the winner - because we paid him salary but go more from him.

In kenya we export maids and drivers - not DOCTORS and LAWYERS OR ENGINEERS.

vaxx:
You only hired foreigner for important position like chief justice when there is no adequate capable men from the locals . In terms of intellect and technicallity , kenya was wanting then. Your only hope was Ghana. Ghanaian has to do the number 3 most important job in your country.


This is Chief justice here ,the man who can be declared as president if the position of president and vice president, speaker become vacant .

You country really lack technical know how to have fully depend on a foreigner on such .

Which development that we cannot see with our eyes?

Just30:
There was no mass killings in Ghana and military rule in Ghana was even more democratic than your country current totalitarianism.

30 years of no proper growth in Ghana and yet your country still couldn't overtake us in development.

We have no problem hiring talent from anywhere in the world. That is difference btw Kenya and Botswana - and banana republics like Ghana and Nigeria.Recently our head of airports was Norwegian.

Until recently we advertised for certain position internationally.

vaxx:
The fact remain ,A Ghanaian once hold the number 3 citizens of your country.


You can blab for the rest , I care less .

After Rawling killed 5 judges; he came running for dear life; Your country history is a nightmare. Kwame really messed you up. Then began 40yrs of military dictatorship, mass killings, mass immigration, famine, hyperinflation, mass deportation back to Ghana.

No wonder all of you sound like victim of PTSD.

vaxx:
They did owe Ghana something, and that is gratitude. A Ghanaian was once a former Chief justice of kenya . That is one of brain that will deligently give them.

Obtuseness.

vaxx:
it has a lot to do with economics. A scale of 0.1 has so much to do talkless of 1 percent . Ghana is far doing way better than you . Evidence is there for everyone to see .Ghana is doing way better than kenyans .

We don't run a kleptocrazy system here where a single leader owns nearly all the major land except non viable one .it only happens in kenya up till date .

We dont owe Ghana anything.

Just30:
yes they do .... Especially when a govt wants to engage in a govt to govt assistance program..

They first send Mps to lay the ground work for sister sister engagement..

They are here to soften the ground for your govt up coming debt negotiations..

The answer is the difference is negligible - they will both be ranked as average. South Africa with 71 percent will be ranked as high.

Just30:
ask yourself this question mathematically...

Or should we ask a KG kid what the difference is?


Pls, Is there any KG kid here?

Mps do not negotiate. It's executive who do that. Mps just come to bedmark - because their job is to make laws.

Just30:


They need help with something that is urgent

I have a gist of why they are here but I've not confirmed it yet.

So if candidate A scores 61 percent and Candidate B scores 60 percent...is there any big difference?

Just30:
Tell me how 1.1% gap is almost negligible?

Is that what they taught you in your maths class?

That can tell you there is nothing they are negotiating that is serious. They are just bed-marking your ashawos. Just supply him with your sister or cousin.

Just30:
Good you know that illiterates lead your gov't negotiations

No wonder your country is backward

Again HDI btw Ghana and Kenya is almost negligible. Dont sweat it. It has nothing to do with economics. It just an index of various indicators.
Ghana has tried to mend it's way since 2002.
But definitely Nkrumah gave your 40yrs of hell.
And you still posthumously want us to worship him.
Please keep him as your hero.

vaxx:
In economic scale , such a gap are not in anyway close, There is gap that is more that 1 percent. Your little brain should tell you such is a big difference . Even if everything is owned by kenyans , one thing will still be missing and that is critical thinking.

In Ghana, policy are debated before it is piloted ,even if it will failed , the nation will benefit from it .

For the fact that your people are still complaining of hunger despite not facing any major crisis like Nigeria , then you are doom.

For example, no politicians will suggest a wheelbarrow as economic empowerment. It only happens in your zoo.

Maina Kamanda is illiterate nominated Mp. He heads some moribund committee of National Cohesion or something.

Just30:
I guess China, Singapore, Malaysia and the entire Europe and USA are all messes.

Anyway, if you wish to know why they are in Accra, you can just ask.

Okay - I thought Kumasi was something - in any case both cities are truly underwhelming. We use to make fun of Darsaseallem until we saw West Africa cities.

Dar look like the Europe compared to them.

Roan77:
Accra is Ghana capital, not Kumasi, learn first.

There is no soft power Accra or Ghana - has - it just that Nigeria is a mess.
Kenya Mps are very corrupt - and travel everywhere.
In fact some countries had started to ban kenya benchmarking tours.
It's just a way for them to earn per diem.

Dont think Ghana is special when you see any kenya benchmarking - they travel all over the world to for such BEDMARKING tours.

They are probably more interested in Ghana ashawos that learning anything from your backwater.

Just30:
You've not experienced Ghana soft power before...

That is how Ghana is Successful in diplomatic circles and this is all thanks to Kwame Nkrumah and Kofi Annan...

Even your leaders come to beg in Ghana for Ghana to help them in their diplomatic negotiations...

Anyway I wonder what a group of 50 Kenyan Maps are doing in Accra currently as we speak. They are led by Maina Kamanda and lodging at the Alisa hotel.

Botswana even if it was to be an equal - is 50yrs development wise from Kaduna.

theenchanter:
see this one..... Go check the inequality in botswana first.

Kenya and Ghana HDI - are similar - anyone btw 0.550–0.699 (medium). South Africa and likes are have High HDI.
The difference btw kenya and Ghana is almost neglible.

Yes of course kenya ought to be far ahead - if not for corruption - and few economic policies that were disaster.

But unlike Ghana - Kenya has done a far better job with what it has.

vaxx:
typical fool, the new record says otherwise. Even if it is 1, by economic scale , that is large gap. Nothing close there .

Kenya has failed his people, the people of turkana can testify .

Kenya has everything to be successful but corruption and lack of critical thinking should be blame for her under-progress.

Again your manifestation of what ails Ghana. Very low education standards which imparted zero critical thinking skills.

How did Kofi Annan or Kwame Nkrumah help Ghana become a better country in their global stage. NADA. ZERO. NULL.

You country is a good example of why Africa is cursed or doomed to many informed people.

How do you explain a country with gold, diamond, bauxite, oil, arable land and name it - and yet still very poor - where every Ghanian dream is to emigrate.

vaxx:
As little as Ghana might be , Ghanaian leaders have held more global stage than populous kenya .

Kenya and Ghana HDIs are similar - the difference percentage is 1 percent. Obviously going by the atrocious education standards in Ghana - this rocket science for you.

Kenya has done well by African standards.

Ghana has everything to succeeded. The same with Nigeria.Everything except leadership.

Botswana got Seretse Khama - but Ghana got unlucky with Kwame and series of leaders who are either stupid or corrupt or both.

vaxx:
You are a fool. The difference isn't minimal and there is no evidence you are closing the gap any further , infact there are more suggestion to see more gaps in coming years . Check last two consecutive years record for this fact.

Kenya is barren, but that is not an excuse in 21st century, isreal is generally a barren land.

Ghana is even using green technology to grow food that are not grown in Ghana .

Ghana is better than namibia , South Africa has an industrial and trading hedge buy not impressive.


I agree bostwana is a success story but Ghana is looking up to singapore or Hongkong not bostwana.

How is Botswana unequal? Namibia and South Africa yes. Botswana has no white or coloured people.

theenchanter:
u made them Africa standard urself, innit?

3 highly unequal countries.... Tufiakwa.

Why dont you come and mine the minerals in kenya and make money
Kenya is one water deficit country - we do not have mighty rivers - we have huge semi-arid land.
Despite that - we are Africa largest non-mineral economy.
We have Africa highest HCIs.
Nairobi look like London...Accra and Kumasi look like a cattle kraal.

Just30:
Kenya has so many minerals but too dumb to make any use of it.

Kenya is so lazy to make use of it massive lands because it doesn't know what irrigation is.

Stop lying to yourself. Kenya and Ghana in HDI are the same - the difference is so minimal.

Kenya is barren - 89 percent semi-arid with perennial droughts and zero minerals.

Ghana - you got everything - except leadership and intellect.

You should be like Botswana, Namibia and South Africa. Which is Africa standards - even better if you invested in education like Kenya did - you should FAAAAR AHEAD.

vaxx:
For the fact that , Ghana is currently more successful than kenya ( human index development) it speaks it all. His idea of managing africa was too supreme to counter except for a fool like you.

Till today , his action are enviably seen in Ghana. Ghana was doing what many Africans can't at his time , Ghana was so prosperous that Robert mugabe has to leave far zimbabwe to Ghana for a teaching position.

Ghanaians didn't expelled him, enemy of the state did just like they did to Gaddafi .


And remember , we aren't hungry here .

Ghana has so much minerals if it had gotten a leader like Tom Mboya it would have been like South Africa. You are very poor country. Just picture of Accra is enough to depress me. The picture of your capital Kumasi is so shameful - you guys really need Jesus or some divine intervention.

Just30:
He managed Ghana economy so successful that Ghana was a highly developed country leading the way in Africa's development...

Thanks to Nkrumah, even when Ghana's economy collapsed in the 80s and all the military rules, Ghana was still more developed than Kenya and Ghanaians were still richer.

Nkrumah was corrupt. By 1960s - he had stolen a princely sum of 5m dollars in his secret account.

Just30:
All of Nkrumah economic policies were a success....

There was no single corruption against Nkrumah... He never built a house for himself or modernize his parent house ...

He never stored treasure in any foreign country.....

This is not your typically corrupt Kenyan politician.

Political hit pieces were what the CIA used to overthrow Nkrumah.. using members of the UP political party who already hated him

When he failed to manage Ghana - how could he possibly manage Africa. He was long in speeches and short in action. Ghanians themselves expelled him and he died in exile. Ghana became a disaster - that has yet to recover.

vaxx:
half baked impound education. His heorisms begins just after them, he was clamouring for african unification. That is the main philosophy.single army, single currency, single jurisdiction. That birth Africa union.

In his benovenent , he agree in making the ethiopia the headquarter despite being the chief mastermind . Till today, Africa Union has never held any exceptional and outspoken leaders like him.

Even in madela time, he was paying tribute to Gaddafi amd Gaddafi in turn paying tribute to kwame nkrumah.


Kwame was disposed when he went to china by the CIA alien not necessarily the army you fool .

Watch Kenya in 1979 - and listen to that video from 41mins - so you understand Tom Mboya vision for kenya and how it suceeded.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBZPuvyWhug&t=4671s

Kwame heroism end with fighting for end of colonialism in Africa. Then a disaster starts, That end in Ghana becoming bankrupt, defaulting in it's debt and hyperinflation. The army disposed him and he died in Guinea.

Tom Mboya was brilliant - his brilliance gave us Obama , Nobel Laurate Wangari and helped Kenya achieve real economic development for 20yrs.

The Ghana of 2050 picture you life is Nairobi of 1980s. You think Kenya would have achieved all it has done without the brilliance and vision of Tom Mboya. Think AGAIN.

Just compare how kenya performed from 1963 to 1983 - growing at 7 percent like Asian tigers - and transforming - from a useless colony of UK that depended on london - to one if not the only THRIVING SUB SAHARA country for almost 30yrs - maybe with Botswana who strike diamond. Kenya then incredible development feat was achieved without any minerals and with little arable land.

Kwame cannot wash Mandela feet - no Africa leader can.

vaxx:
stop the diahorea of the mouth with the next available book on the shelves that is void of Western concoction. Economically , kwame nkrumah supersede whatever any African leaders of that time can envisaged.

For the fact that , kwame nkrumah didn't feature in today Western discussion doesn't push him down to the back seat.

He was a successful and accomplish man whose aim of development is yet to be matched in today world .


He made it clear, he wasn't in support of nyerere system, so don't join them together.

Ghanians have really tried to posthumously repair the image of Kwame Nkrumah but history cannot be changed. Kwame run an oppressive dictatorial and very corrupt regime. He embarked on bone-headed economic policies that bankrupted Ghana - a once a thriving country - like Nigeria - was for the Brits. By 1966 it was obvious the country had been torned apart. 10yrs of black rule had become a disaster. He couldn't even pay the army - and the army disposed him. IMF was invited to repair the mess. The mess of hyperinflation and dictatorship would last until 2002 - when Jerry Rawling finally returned Ghana to civilian rule - after almost culling the entire Ghana elites.

https://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/features/The-fall-of-Nkrumah-and-the-Corruption-He-Supervised-197071

Why did you expel him to Guniea if he was good. You well know Kwame Nkrumah became corrupt communist and destroyed your economy.

Nelson Mandela is a global icon. Leave N.Mandela alone. We can argue about the rest.

Such a shame - Thabo Mbeki messed up South Africa - by failing to do land reforms and dealing with HIV-AIDs - and set up South Africa to a path of self-destruction that likes of Zuma have come to complete with mega corruption - the like that Kwame Nkrumah pulled in Ghana.

vaxx:
Your Tom mboya has never won a recognized status. In the year 2000, kwame nkruamah was voted by BBC as the man of millineum not mandela not sankara or your so called mboya whose record is only limited to kenya .

Julius Nyerere tried that in Tanzania and it became a big disaster.

Hueman:
Discussing what economic model works for us is discussing African issues. I genuinely believe that this country would be better if it was ran by socialist.