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You speak sense for once.
So cheap it cannot work
Petrol - pumps are dry more often than anywhere in the world.
electricity - same problem - definitely worst in the world

Pay for electricity - power generation companies need money to run the turbines - they get little money - they cannot run the turbines

Cheap is expensive.

Nigeria spend hours looking for petrol - or generators to get electricity. Strange problems in many countries.

vaxx:
The better the electricity , the higher the price . Good things doesn't come cheap . That is why electricity bill is expensive in Ghana .

Electricity bill is so cheap in Nigeria

There is almost nothing you produce or manufacture better than Kenya outside of Maize/Beans/Cashew nuts.

1) Sugar - 20 factories versus 5.

2) Tea - Kenya has 200 tea factories plus - Tanzania I think 5 (all owned by a Kenyan). Kenya produces 600K metric tonnes - Tanzania 20K. That is like 30 times smaller.

3) Milk - We produced 5-6 billion litres - processed alone is nearly a billion. Tanzania . 150,000 litres per day processed - LOL that is just small dairy proccesor in Kenya

Milk from Bongo Lalas.
Compared to neighbouring Kenya, where 40% of milk is sold processed and packaged, Tanzania’s formal dairy market is small, with only 5% sold packaged. The country also lags behind in terms of consumption. It averages 50 litres per year per person, compared to 90 litres in Kenya.

Name anything

Kazikazi:
Why are you disowning your fellow Kenyan? You hate the truth to the point of disowning your countryman? Do u think development is all about laying and cooking data?
Now the masses are coming back to the streets,twice weekly,you are soon becoming a srilanka.

Hating your countryman won't solve your issues.
Go plant food,go manufacture stuff,stop importing everything for the sake of your nation.
You folks are lazy.everyone is coming to Nairobi to hustle, who will do farming?

But there is that saying....
"A lazy man will always ending up doing the difficult job"
And the difficult job which you guys are now facing is "starving"

You're delusional.
After people have taken 50% losses; and have to wait untl 2037 to be repaid their principals.
They will rush back and throw away their money.

Even a mad man like you will not lend to Ghana gov soon.

Ghana gov is locked out for 15yrs min from both domestic and external market.

That is why defaulting is TERRIBLE

Just30:
Which is none of Ghana's problem ....

Ghana will gain market access in a years time and everyone will be willing to loan Ghana money be because it is way more profitable

We are functioning country of course. Auditor general flagged the fines. Kenya and China differed on what debt relief meant. China insisted - we paid the fine - and continue to pay till now.

As late as this month - we just paid china 500M dollars.

Why would we default - and mess our country for 15yrs like Ghana

vaxx:
so I can believe the lies from your govt, why I must reject the fact from the sister agent that posted the evidence the same date your govt posted such lies
....


Note that both evidence were reported on the same date . The 13th of October 2022

We dont have history of ever defaulting in our debt - we aint about to start. We are not fools like Ghana.


Legally an account goes into default if it’s closed by the lender following mounting arrears, and has the ability to affect a borrower’s or country’s creditworthiness.

The delayed payment came in a year when Kenya had asked for an extension of the debt repayment moratorium from bilateral lenders, including China, by another six months to December 2021, saving it from committing billions to the Beijing lenders.

But the lenders, especially the Exim Bank of China, opposed Kenya’s application for a debt repayment holiday in a standoff that delayed disbursements to projects funded by Chinese loans.

China postponed the repayments in January last year, helping Kenya temporarily retain Sh27 billion that was due for six months ending June 2021. The opposition from Chinese lenders forced Nairobi to drop its push for an extension of the debt repayment holiday to avoid straining relations with Kenya’s biggest bilateral creditor.

https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/economy/treasury-disowns-official-papers-on-sgr-loan-repayment-3984120

vaxx:
You are yet to debunk this fact?

And you never read Treasury rebuttal.
In 2020 during COVID Kenya applied for G20’s Debt Service Suspension Initiative (DSSI)
We got six months relief - not pay about 700M dollars owed to G20 countries.
Chinese EXIM BANK later claimed SGR loan was not covered by G20’s Debt Service Suspension Initiative (DSSI).
We paid.
Old story.
Last month alone we paid Chinese 500M dollars - as the loans are paid every six months.

Do you know what STUPID GHANA did in 2020 - when everyone was going for G20’s Debt Service Suspension Initiative (DSSI)

They refused - said their credit rating will take a hit - and they run for Eurobond for 3 billion dollars.

NEVER SEEN SUCH KIND OF RECKLESSNESS. I predicted here Ghana will go BANKRUPT.

Middle of COVID-19 like crisis - you take commercial loan of 3 billion.

And indeed last year you went BELLY UP

vaxx:
now , who has received bad education . You the idiot or vaxx ...

I have seen 690K - round off to 700K. Tanzania is about half of that.

The only way you hope Tanzania can overtake Kenya is by kenya collapsing.
This is what jealous has made you become - a country of losers.
Kenya is a very resilient economy. Dont bet on it going under soon. Not with Dr Ruto running things.

Raila is a slow punctured politician - whose influence has been cut to size.

Kazikazi:
it's no longer 650mt,you are now in a million mt. Keep on faking,the people will still march on ghe streets forever

Raila is now saying about protesting every Thursday and Monday.

Srilanka srilanka hello srilanka

How many doctors, engineers, lawyers and say accountant did you have at independence. Stop lying to yourself. Many african countries were not ready for independence. That is why longer it was delayed the better the prospect. Like South Africa.

We got independence way too early. Most african countries had zero african doctors or engineers at independence. In kenya if you had a diploma - they would even make you a minister.

We should have been rational. Yes give us independence. But also send us engineers and doctors or architect of a modern economy.

Ghana of course got bunch of idiots - they crushed the economy - by 1962 - cant pay army salaries - army send them away - and huge mess starts.

Go to South Sudan now - see the mess - apart from diaspora folks - country is teeming with illeterates

vaxx:
Ghana already have intellectual in almost every sector , the first subsaharan university was located in sierra leone fouray bay college . We are already producing medical doctors in the 18 century

You're free to come and operate regionally. You do realize DRC is big boys game - they have 150 or so rebel groups. You have better chance in Nigeria

vaxx:
it doesn't matter since your country has loopholes , the system can be curbed.

Like I said - we could have promoted many lawyers - to become anything. Africa then need technical assistance more than money. Many countries didnt realize that.

That is why Ghana got independence in 1956 and by 1962 - it was bankrupt - Kwame was kicked to exile - and you had military rule you till 2003.

vaxx:
I am sorry , you don't have someone has educated as him to have that position in your highest level of legal system during that time .

Congo is far - Uganda and Rwanda - are.

vaxx:
Yet you are a gateway to Congo natural resources .

Ghanian CJ was first African or black Kenya CJ. Nobody knows him. He was mild guy.
We had judges from Ghana and Carribean - black - the bench was mostly white and Asians.
Kenya in 1963 after independence made an important decision.
Whites and Asians who were then civil service would remain.
Unless an African of similar qualification emerged.
This was thanks to brilliant people like Tom Mboya and Mwai Kibaki.

So Judiciary in Kenya was white and Asian for long time - as African started becoming lawyers in 1960s.

The rest of Africa made moronic decision to replace white and asian with idiots - in rush to become self-governing totally.

Result - CHAOS - idiots led them.

Kenya asked US and others to offer technical assistance - and scholarship - to train Kenyans in best schools.
We allowed whites and Asian to stay in civil services a little longer.

When Ghanian came - we welcomed there - caribean judges - the same.

vaxx:
Awesome for a Ghanaian buisness .


Our Chief Justice was once your third citizens

Kenya is free country for any hardworking fellow. There is no gold to mine. You come and figure it out.

vaxx:
Awesome for a Ghanaian buisness .


Our Chief Justice was once your third citizens

Raila only way is down. The demos were embarrasing. Nothing in Mombasa, Machakos, kakagema or even Busia. It was localized event. He exposed himself.

Therefore, the only thing Ruto need to work is on his Luo violent gangs. The slum gangs connected to MCAs. That is more intelligence work.

You disabled Raila Luo gang network - he is finished. They are ones to mobilize crowds and violence.

Ruto understand intelligence more than anyone. Omollo as PS of Interior will do the rest - with CS Owalo. They are the one to help identity Raila Luo gangs in slums. They get arrested or bribed - Raila has no one to mobilize violence.

If they get arrested - Raila will cry - so best Ruto will bribe them gangs - to enforce peace - and lock the few diehards. He will emerge in Karen to find nobody has mobilized.

Saddamochieng00:
Would love to see how he'll play his cards on this one. Raila is known to crumble under pressure and suffers from extreme inferiority complex. Two weaknesses Ruto can easily take full advantage of.

I have been in forums since 1999.
I found the Skyscrappercity bunch of lowlife - idiots like you

You should counter my points with sound argumentation.

Wuoche:
No wonder you have been banned from skyscrapercity forum, you write nonsense which makes you sound either an idiot or a baby.

Yet Azimio which he headed was voted out. Kenyans know uhuru for who he is. A DRUNKARD. Everything you will name I can tell you Ruto created it.

Uhuru is chain smoking drunkard. Raila cannot manage a small DUKA - another drunkard.


That is why they lost power - it has to been a first in Africa where gov and opposition combined LOSE POWER. Maybe in the world. JUBILEE+CORD/NASA - - beaten by a first timer

You combine gov and opposition forces and LOSE

Now it tear gas. You will cry.

Wuoche:
I'm dead serious. Do you want me to start counting all the beneficial things Uhuru did to Kenya?

Now I remember Patrick Quacko (working for Reuters Uganda) came with William Pike a white dude he met in Uganda (who own rag tags) to start salacious ragtag media very popular in Uganda - and they strike gold. I recall him in 2002 with Kiss 100 - the name itself was scandal in Moi regime - but here he was offering very fearless interview of politicians - and he literally has striken gold. He literally forgot about Ghana.

Museveni like Moi didnt mind about such ragtag media selling stories about who slept with who where - as long as you kept the powerful guys out of scandals.

Africans love gossiping.

There a couple of Ghanian who have come to kenya and succeeded . I believe you culled your elite under Rawling.
1) Patrick Quarcoo, popularly known as PQ, is a Ghanaian Kenya-based serial entrepreneur. He is the founder and chief executive officer of Radio Africa Group, which is an umbrella of among Kenya's leading media channels on print, digital, TV and radio.

2) We also have others like Chris Senani and I have seen some USIU dude - who act as ICT security bla bla

3) Of course judges like Akiwumi Akilano - the CJ one is not so well known - as he was care-take Chief Justice.

I'd say Patrick Quarcoo is well known - and probably only west african business man to suceeed in kenya from scratch.

vaxx:
so Ghanaian are even more into your day to day life than what I am thinking? Then why are you so stupid and gives honor

Kenya would be far ahead if 39yr old Thomas Joseph Odhiambo Mboya had become president.

Tom Mboya in my view will forever remain unmatched for his intelligence, leadership and charisma. What Tom Mboya achieved before he was assisinated by Jomo Kenyatta at 39yrs of age is unreal.

Ruto will go down as 2nd Tom Mboya.

Kibaki is definitely the most intelligent president we have ever had but he wasnt not all rounder - his weakness basically sullied his otherwise brilliant brain.

Uhuru, Jomo and Moi - those are nonsense. Bunch of idiots.

Luckly Tom Mboya gave US - Barrack Obama - one of their greatest and 1st black president.

[b] Mboya's intelligence, charm, leadership, and oratory skills won him admiration from all over the world.[1] He gave speeches, participated in debates and interviews across the world in favour of Kenya's independence from British colonial rule. He also spoke at several rallies in the goodwill of the Civil Rights movement in the United States.[4] In 1958, at the age of 28, Mboya was elected Conference Chairman at the All-African Peoples' Conference convened by Kwame Nkrumah of Ghana.[5] He helped build the Trade Union Movement in Kenya, Uganda and Tanzania, as well as across Africa. He also served as the Africa Representative to the International Confederation of Free Trade Unions (ICFTU). In 1959, Mboya called a conference in Lagos, Nigeria, to form the first All-Africa ICFTU labour organization.[6]

Mboya worked with both John F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King Jr. to create educational opportunities for African students, an effort that resulted in the Kennedy Airlifts of the 1960s enabling East African students to study at American colleges. Notable beneficiaries of this airlift include Wangari Maathai and Barack Obama Sr. In 1960, Mboya was the first Kenyan to be featured on the front page cover of Time magazine in a painting by Bernard Safran.[7] [/b]

Who owns the media? Moi owns the standard group; Kenyatta owns the other part with K24/Kamames; Macharia Raila bossom friend run most of media via royal media; The Nation Media is own by Agha Khan but had been captured.

I dont know why Raila has gone for Ghanian friend - Quacko and Kittony - Radio Africa Group - or maybe Ruto bought it finally? - South African had bought out the Ghanian.

Ruto win was against pretty much all the odds.

But Ruto doesnt lose battles

Saddamochieng00:
They were expecting a guy with zero policy platform and a welding certificate to be the one to transform our economy.

The only reason we seem to be in a mess is because of the mainstream media. Notice how they haven't documented the decrease in price on most basic goods. They were never this critical of Uhuru even in his last term when the country was literally being milked dry. It's high time Ruto cracks down on this media cabal before it becomes a force unto itself.

My friend - Ruto has a proven track record - that is why he has NEVER lost any election he has vied.
His track record in Eldoret North as MP - long before CDF - is unimpeachable - that is why they elected him I think 3 or four times. He was always top 3 in CDF usage.
His track record in as Ass Minister is unbeaten - he remains only Ass Minister to be allowed to sit in Cabinet.
His track record in ODM/KANU - you well know - ask Raila.
His track record as Minister of Agri is well known - kenya went from 2008 maize problems like now - to Maize Surplus - he was voted by kenyans as hardest working minister.
Raila got jealous - demoted him to higher education - Ruto in a week had fixed a 20yr old problem - where we waited for 2yrs before going to university. Now kenya kid dont know what it mean to wait - many of us had kids by time we joined UON
Ruto record in Jubilee 1st term is well known - all the roads and electricity you seee - Ruto did it.
Ruto was then edged out for Raila in 2018 - and you know how that ended - Ruto beat the gov, all the billionaires and is now PORK.
He has been in power in six months - and he already achieved MANY ThINGS.

Dr Ruto records in personal life, private business, politics and work speak for itself.

He is very smart, very hardworking, very eloguent and very organized. To compare Ruto with Uhuru I find it almost sacrilegious - a drunkard brat compared with Kenya most terrific political talent after TOM MBOYA is very insulting.

Kenya is in right hands. The welding certificate anarchist from East German-Russia and his backers have NO HOPE/

Wuoche:
Stop overhyping Ruto too much, he can't do anything meaningful. How many dams has he initiated their construction since he got the presidency? He has no interest of Kenyans in his heart. The Uhuru you are castigating did many important things to Kenya including revival of Mumias sugar.

1 dead person - sad - outside Nairobi - where police battled illegal demos the whole day. When will Tanzania ever protest. Imagine no one in Kibera and Mathare slums despite epic battles died. Only in Maseno which is like 600kms in rural place.

And kenya police are independent from executive.

Judiciary independent. Prosecutor independent.

And police have IPOA - The Independent Policing Oversight Authority - Tomorrow IPOA will swing and investigate why that Kid died - if a police used excessive force - he will be charged for murder.

Kenya has one of Africa best democracies with modern constitution - only 2nd to south africa.

3 days ago for example.

The Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions has approved charges against three police officers for murder.

Benson Mulinge, Michael Rotich and Osoi Sakimba of the Madogo Police Station will face the charges after the conclusion of investigations by the Independent Policing Oversight Authority, IPOA, following the death of Ibrahim Isaack Gutu.

Police knows if they use unreasonable force - they will be tried. Each arm independent operationally and finanically. Police independent. Prosecutor Independent. IPOA (police oversight) independent. Judiciary Independent. Executives have no role in police. The army also independent with strict rules known as TONJE rules for managing armed force.

The Director of Public Prosecutions has preferred murder charges against nine police officers in three separate incidents after a probe by the Independent Police Oversight Authority (IPOA).

In the first case, a police inspector, a corporal and four police constables have been accused of killing Mary Chepkorir Kiprotich in March 2020 at her home in Laikipia County.

The accused persons are Harrison Mwa (inspector), John Kimweli Musau, Linus Kipngetich Terer, Joseph Mureithi, David Kipkemoi and Magdalene Nachapai.

Kazikazi:
So sad

The mad man mission is to derail this thread with nonsense.

He has turned it into ghana open defecation ground.

I feel I have to jump through feaces to read a good post.

Very sad.

gallivant:
Says a guy without a single shred of evidence or source. Ghana and its inhabitants are a joke.

No wonder I remember seeing wode maya crying over the cocoa.

And no wonder Ghana look shietty.

This is what good agriculture can do to a country - believe it. Your president vision 2050 - to go beyond Aid - imagine was built by farmers

Everything you see in Kenya - the foundation is agricluture.

Watch this video - know kenya is drought prone zone - has no minerals - and yet it has done this - from well run cooperatives of farmers.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4xj5NJsTEs

Just30:
They are building roads because they can afford it and make it easier to cart cocoa from the millions of farms in the hinterlands.

We don't need Ghana govt to sponsor it when a successful company has all the money needed to sponsor it for their benefits.

Ghana govt is focused on much bigger infrastructure projects than that.


I understand Kenya is bankrupt and your govt can't finance anything until 2036 when it managed to bring it debt repayment under control.

Kenya is not one crop country.
Kenya export 295 different types of crops.
Possibly highest in Africa.

How do you think kenya economy has been built without farming

We got no gold or oil

Just30:
Millions of farmers who have enough money to send their kids abroad for further education when they get of age.

Good luck competing with that 🤣😂🤣

The only dream of a Kenyan is to be employed on a multinational farm and be paid 3 euros 🤣😂

With the price of tea that low KTDA can only afford gloves for them.

Combine all of them and they won't even be half the size of cocobod.

Kenya Coffee - some of best coffee in world - grown and managed by cooperative farmers - with coffee auction in Nairobi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of5F9RHJQcE

For example - Meru cooperative - produce 10% of kenya coffee -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GG2EcbaZ4lo

why are they build roads? Is Ghana gov that bankrupt? KTDA maintain access roads to tea buying center.

COCOBOD is bankrupt. Ghana is bankrupt.

Just30:
Desperate as hell

😂🤣


A 500 million debt on their books for a company that turns over 3 to 4 billion dollars is nothing.

This shows the work they carry out. Building 286 cocoa roads with total length of 4,500km ... This is more kilometers of roads than Kenya will ever build in 10 years.

They are also cutting down old farms and replanting them and paying each farmer a thousand Ghana cedis per acre. 🤣😂🤣

Not even your government can do that

Dairy sector - Kenya has AFRICA largest dairy sector - long beaten south africa.

Producing 5-6 billion litres of milk.

All by small holder farmers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kigAwcAea8w

2 million broke farmers depending on a broke company - poor Ghana. No wonder everywhere I look I see poverty.

Take a look at well run KTDA - with 0.6M.

Let's not talk about KCC, KGGCU, name it

Kenya has many farmers cooperatives and company.

It's not Ghana where it's COCOA and nothing.

Just30:
Cocobod is more successful than anything in Kenya..

Their one year money can buy all the tea produced in Kenya for 3 years 🤣😂🤣

They manage 2 million or so farmers and provides scholarships for their children.

Next dream pls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJDUvo1-RnE

In google the first word that come when I search COCOBOD is BANKRUPTCY.
Free advice - privatize it - allow farmers freedom to sell to everyone.

You're killing the the goose that can lay golden goose.

COCOBOD has ability to eliminate poverty - GOLD, OIL and rest dont - ask Nigeria.

Build cocoa value chain by first dealing with COCOBOD - make it private company run privately - not one where national gov borrows money from China - using cocoa beans as collatoral.

vaxx:
maybe you will have to learn the meaning of bankruptcy , has cocoaboard being declared insolvent? Has cocoaboard tap into external loan for clearing of staff salary or goes into agreement with another industry for dollar shortage like your country is currently doing now .

You will stupidly need to learn what bankruptcy mean .

If any country is bankrupt is definitely kenya . There is currently shortage of dollars in your country . No forex cash . You are damn broke .

Why is it bankrupt then? almost every year there are fears of bankruptcy; and why do you force cocoa farmers to sell a mismanaged bankrupt org

You're like Kenya in 1980s!!!!!!!!!!!

Poor farmers

vaxx:
You are just annoying , the 12 billion Ghana cedis cocoa debt is less than 500 millions dollar, cocoboad is making tree times of that worth annually. Don't you see the debt owned is much more political rather than formal

China is also gone. They are no longer lending to Africa. Kenya is back to US and EU...with middle east. China man is dealing with Africa debt crisis.

Kenya foreign policy is topnotch - we know when to switch sides - for our own interest.

Now china two decades has ended - we move back to west.

vaxx:
china already made you a stooge