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Signature is Nairobi Metro. Nairobi border ends with JKIA - so from Syokimau-Mlolongo - it's Machakos county.
The same way Nairobi ends before Two Rivers.

Shma2020:
. The following new malls are not on the list

Lavington mall
Safaricom
Signature
Crystal mall

There are nearly 10new malls in Nairobi not on the list

NO. You great president his H.E the Midget Nana is aiming for Nairobi of 1980s in year 2050. We are therefore exactly 70yrs ahead of Ghana.

Wizzzzmike:
Some Kenyans are so dumb especially you.
While Ghana are aiming of getting to America and Germany level...Kenya aiming for South Africa such a low class thinking man lol

First we go with prima facia evidence - then if you dispute - you politely ask for citation - and I provide it as always.

jln115:
that's not how it works in a debate

How? Are you naturally dense? If you claim you graduate 60K black and I know we do 150k blacks - who is wrong?

jln115:
so you were wrong?

I didn't say. A south africa posted that boasting about 65K black graduate annually - which I found to be a low figure. I have since checked - and those figures are old. Now South Africa graduate anything upto 200K annually - which sound realistic.

jln115:
You said South Africa only Graduates 46000 black SAns? How is that possible when there are more Black Graduates in SA than white?

Unlike you I don't need citation for kenya data - they are in my fingertips.

jln115:
you just saying random things bro.....

Bring us citations!!!!!!

Show us Nairobi's 35 malls, and 5o hotels

Actually I checked - South Africa have about 1M university enrollment - Kenya is around 0.5M. South Africa under graduate are about 0.5M enrolled .

You graduate about 200K now. Kenya is at 130k.

You have upto 60K msc and nearly 10-20K phd - with about 1/3 from outside South Africa. Kenya has msc/phd combined of about 55k-10K - so not much difference when it come to advanced degrees.

Kenya -https://cue.or.ke/index.php/downloads-1/category/18-universities-data-0-3?download=201:2016-2017-university-statistics-report

jln115:
Cool story bro...... Next time bring me actual citations like I did.... Instead of your opinion

The contract was signed in 2012 - and 5yrs later construction began - see your country has problems.
Now 2017 to now 2011 - 4yrs for 150km railway.
Even Lazy Tanzania are building 1,000kms.

Shaytun:
Mr rvp2018 what did I say about pulling statement out of your arse??

Lies. Abuja-Kaduna - 2011. Lagos-Ibandan - 10yrs ago in 2012 - and yet still not operation.
Kenya has done almost 700kms in 3yrs - and it's now fully operational.
2014 - and by 2017 - it was operational.
We are about to turn profit
While you're still testing Lagos-Ibandan line.

SNAIL PACE

Shaytun:
The Abuja kaduna section got built

And now the Lagos -Ibadan is almost ✅.

We’ve already started the Ibadan-Kano section

Undated - put the link slowpoke. Learn to QUOTE your reference. Basic stuff they teach you in normal schools.

Shaytun:
Too much noise

The crux of matter is kenya has now 70% (8M household out 12M) with electricity that is available now 99% of the time. Blackout make news here. Only western part of kenya that relies on Uganda (Jinja) have MINOR issue and we are fixing them - by connecting it to Geothermal

The fact is in Nigeria that is a miracle - every day the few with electricity - get 6 hours.

INSTALLED capacity is nothing. For example my power plant - is 1MW - I will have 4 turbines - each to produce 250KW - I can turn them on or off - depending - and if say it goes into disrepair - it could go off for long time.

So generation you got problem.

Transmission and distribution - mega problems.

Shaytun:
Good for you then.

The crux of the matter is we generate, produce and transmit more electricity than Kenya can hope to achieve in the next ten years.

And according to the international energy agency our citizens have a higher access to electricity.

After awarding contract - what else was your waiting for - or you had no money - just awarding contract without money. DELUSION. In kenya contracts are only awarded when the money is ready and all regulations have been passed.

Shaytun:
Contract was awarded in 2012.

I ask you when construction began...it’s a simple question

You can purport to lecture me on anything. I am currently developing my own hydroplant - a 1MW - plant - for my own tea processing plant.

Shaytun:
Again still pulling things out of your arse.

Learn the difference between generation,distribution and transmission then we can have a discussion.

Each Nigeria state should try their own magic - their federal gov has failed - despite investing billions.

mtisTheQubit:
Trust me they have powerful generator importers cartels .. just saying
No change any soon..

In 2012. Mere 150Kms. Kenya started in 2014 - 600kms plus - including the booring through The Great Rift valley - 5Km tunnel - longest in Africa

Shaytun:
Still pulling things out of your arse I see.

When did construction start on Lagos -Ibadan SGR ??

How has it improved? You can have 18,000MW but the peak generation is what 3,000MW. The turbines cannot just turn when producers are not paid. Let's not talk about the collapsed network...due overloading and disrrepair.

You may live all your lifetime in that mess - of generators and blackouts.

Shaytun:
Facts are stubborn mate.

But the Crux of the matter is electricity has improved...I live here so I know

Kenya took 3yrs to deliver and operationalize SGR. You have 10 yrs and there is nothing on the ground. That article is obviously written by Nigerian engaging in China hatefest.

Shaytun:
Facts are indeed stubborn.

Olander attributed Africa’s rail boom in the past decade to China’s indispensable roles in providing access to capital and actually building the railways. Nigeria has a better chance of avoiding some of the pitfalls of Kenya, which looks like it may struggle to pay back its loans. Nigeria’s railway project costs less comparatively and it has a stronger cash flow position than Kenya as long as oil prices do not fall precipitously.


For the most part, it looks like the Nigerian government’s been doing quite a good job. Contrary to widespread misperceptions, Nigeria doesn’t actually borrow that much from China and what they do borrow is used to build strategically essential infrastructure.”

Teething problem during operational - you're yet to even start transporting cargo through trains. Those problems of last mile, congestion at Nairobi dry port and etc are being fixed.

We certainly didn't expect to turn profit for first 10yrs.

Shaytun:
Lol...it’s worse than I thought.

“But recent experience in Kenya suggests this is a plan fraught with danger if other components that are required for its fruition are not in place. Kenya’s Chinese-built $3.2 billion Standard Gauge Railway connecting its capital city Nairobi and the port city of Mombasa has already lost $200 million in just three years of operation. One key reason has been that the rail has been unattractive to cargo owners because of its higher fees and tariffs, additional time clearing goods, and a lack of last-mile delivery, when compared to trucks.”

When the generators shut down please let us know. It's been 5yrs since this thread started, It not gotten better.

Shaytun:
Our electricity sector is improving day by day.

By next year we should be doing around 18,000MW , while Kenya is still stuck in 2,000MW.

It’s obvious we are not even in the same league anymore

You borrowed locally to repay eurobond. Who does that.
https://www.reuters.com/article/nigeria-eurobonds-idAFL1N2JG1FR

Shaytun:


You’re not aiming for anything dunce.

Your real estate sector value is less than that of Tanzania.

All the infractural development going on in your country is not up to $3b...your debt is 67% of your GDP ...you have less than $26b budget for 2021,

Nigeria just repaid Eurobond of 6.75% with both interest and principal that matured on the 28.

Your country can only dream of that

I see you've gone to default mode. Find Ghana and engage them. Kenya is aiming for South Africa. Not your zoo. Fix electricity first.

Shaytun:
And again you keep pulling things out of your arse.

I’ve proved it to you that we have a bigger budget than you.

56>26

Money in our coffers??

You want to compare our foreign reserves??

Found one - pretty depressing slumpolis of 4m people

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYV7iSScNA8

Do you have drone view of Kano city - I remember seeing that slumpolis years ago in CNN - and I had not seen such an expansive slumpolis all my life

Jamestown123:
Please permit me to show you tiny part of Kano.

68816419:
@RVP: MADE IN NIGERIA VEHICLES
Africa's Biggest Car Manufacturing Plant!-Made In Nigeria(Innoson Motors)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b2JMOmUJRo

I actually saw that..look like a front for dodgy company..the workers dont even wear uniform

While Nigeria Ghana and Tanzania has not added a comma to British colonial education..Kenya well on it's way to 3rd change..CBC and the result so far encouraging
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaOjBJgrDfY&feature=youtu.be

True. That is why Kenyans were not enslaved. The British and Arabs feared Maasai so much they couldn't dare go for slaves in the hinterland. These cowardly West Africans were being captured by Hausa traders and shipped by millions to the America to work as slaves.

Shma2020:
One massai man can handle 20 Ghanian men.

Those people are born-fighters, you don't wanna joke with them.

Tanzania will forever remain in the shadows of Kenya. That one is a fact. If TZ is man enough - open the borders and allow free movement of people - and goods - and see how soon we will overrun your lazy witchcraft country.

Kazikazi:
The only restrictions we have in media is,no one is allowed to publish false information. In TZ,you can't own a paper and u go on and lie.The authorities will punish.But if u publish what is real,no one will go after you.Our laws have been good to us but very painful to some medias which wanted to demonize a nation and make us appear as if we don't progress.
As of today,if you just public lies about corona or cholera or Ebola,the authorities will call u and ask to prove your story,once you fail,then you gets a 6 month or 12 month ban or a lifetime ban for lying and planting fear in the lives of ordinary folks.
But for u kiberan since u are a slum dwellers and starving,you think TZ should be worse! To your disbelief, TzTz is much a better country than your slum republic.
What you kiberans don't understand is,TZ has a bigger economy than u,a higher living standards than u,a beautiful nation than yours,a peaceful nation than yours,a country with better transport systems, better on almost everything.
But your politicians lied to you fellas.
They gave u fake GDP figures just to make u feel better
They gave u fake internet connectivity figures to make u Happy
Thy gave u fake hunger index figures
They gave u a fake report on paved roads total distance
They lied about electrified households numbers
They lied to you about your education system
They lied about your agricultural sector performance
They are still lying about GDP growth while the tourism sector is dead,and other sectors are in lockdown due to corona.But due to your foolishness, you believe you can still grow by 7% in this period of pandemic?

Abuja is a hopeless city - that has no soul - except as gov federal unit. I wish Nigeria would invest in fixing existing cities than trying to build new cities. If you look at billions invested in Abuja so far - it's a lot and the city look crap.

popizaino:
Abuja has no long way to go....the area shown in the video is among the least developed part that is yet to be given attention by the government. If this area is comparable to your Eastland think of how Abuja Karen,lavington will be ?

Abuja will be the envy of the world and the only thing we need to fix is power issue and our security challenge .

This should be done for whole of Nairobi - one of those things that make Nairobi third world - 1) paved sidewalks 2) reserved lanes for motorcycles 3) and finally a really functional light rail - and more regulated buses. And that is pretty much.

Nairobi metro has a long way - because roads need to be paved.

Wuoche:
What Upperhill lack is sidewalks. I hope the Badification will reach upperhill this year.

The houses looks okay - the roads are bushy - Nigeria need to invest in trimming grass - and whole business of lawn- planting flowers etc.

As for being pride and envy of the world - maybe of Nigeria.

Look at Nairobi upperhill road view - not really there at developed world standards - but Abuja has a long way to go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aldyTlrmd_Q

popizaino:
Forget it.......just give Abuja 10yrs,the city would be lit. Funny how the new normal tends to be skyscrapers but Abuja keeps it low but most importantly decent.come 2030 Abuja will be the pride of the continent,the envy of the world .



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_G10BIkKfdc

Kenya lead Africa in internet penetration
At 87.2% Kenya tops Africa by a mile in internet penetration. Libya 2nd - 74.2%, Seychelles 3rd -72.5%. In EA Rwanda at 46.2%, Uganda* 40.4%, Tanzania* 38.7%, Ethiopia* 17.8%, Somalia 10.7% & Burundi 9.7%
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