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President Magufuli yesterday refused to join an online meeting for East Africa Heads of State that centered on a coordinated response to combat Coronavirus in the region. Sources in Tanzania indicate that the situation in the country is very grim, hospital are getting overwhelmed and fresh graves are springing up every morning.

Today the US has issued a Health Alert for Tanzania , citing TZ's failure to communicate their numbers and added that the risk of contracting the disease in Dar-es-salaam is extremely high. A couple of days ago, Zambia totally closed their borders with TZ. Kenya, Rwanda and Uganda expected to follow suit.

exactly.

gallivant:
True but I am for a proper metro rail system. BRT is a band aid solution but that's just my opinion.

They became faulty when they certainly showed a huge spike and you had to fire the head of lab. They are faulty and the BEST we got now. HAKUNA NYINGINE!. If you're looking for perfect COVID-19 test kit - manufacture yours - because everyone is importing whatever is available.

When dealing with pandemics - you don't wait until you have all facts - you work with what you have - innovate as you go - what is wrong if you get false positives or negatives - it's better than nothing. Even HIV-AIDs kits are still not perfect.

Mzal3ndo:
Who said we stopped testing? I work in the health sector in Arusha and the still take the same measure as before the president said he was skeptic about the test kits, and saying "Mtakufa na ujinga yenu" is grammatically incorrect in Kiswahili, the proper sentence would be "Mtakufa kwa ujinga wenu", and plus, why is it crazy when he says it when Australia, Bengal, U.S, India and the U.K have also found out that their kits are faulty and he didn't say to stop testing but rather review the devices used for testing, which is normal lab procedure to calibrate and test equipment with both a positive and negative control before use.

But you stopped testing - after Pombe decided to attack your test lab - and now in border post - Tanzanians are turning up with COVID-19. Mtakufa na ujinga yenu.

Mzal3ndo:
You didn't get the part in his speech where he told the nation that the disease is serious and people should take action to contain it, or there every other leader in the nation is telling the people that they should take action against the disease but the part of his speech telling people they should pray is the only one that is stuck to you? Okay, let me ask you this Mr/Ms my country has taken better steps to contain the virus, how many in your countries have the virus? how many have died? How many are still getting infected? Compare it with your over exaggerated number of death and infection in Tanzania and ask yourself if its any better per capita compared to Tanzania...

OPEC's Next Domino to Fall Could Be Nigeria. One of the oil market’s big problems is its dependence on countries hardwired for higher prices.

Libya and Venezuela are down and out.
Nigeria is estimated to account for one in seven of the world’s very poorest people
Nigerie has $72 million in its rainy-day fund - ONLY

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https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-05-12/opec-s-next-oil-price-victim-could-be-nigeria

Sound macabre. How do you associate darkness with offerings? They must be doing a lot of crazy shiet there chanting Chineke! chineke! Ingwe!

mtisTheQubit:
actually the burnt offering part they say coz of Ghanaians look..thats what Nigerians call very dark people..

Seriously - the hobit is perfect description of wode maya, Koffi annan, vax, etc

n this answer I will quote the writings of J.R.R Tolkien because as simple as it is, he tells you what a Hobbit is right as you turn past the cover of the book “The Hobbit”.

“Hobbits are little people, smaller than dwarfs. They love peace and quiet and good tilled earth. They dislike machines, but they are handy with tools. They are nimble but don’t like to hurry. They have sharp ears and eyes. They are inclined to be fat. They wear bright colors but seldom wear shoes. They like to laugh and eat (six meals a day) and drink. They like parties and they like to give and recieve presents. They inhabit a land they call The Shire, a place between the River Brandywine and the Far Downs.”

The reason they seldom wear shoes is that they don’t need them, even if they did, they have feet much too large to fit any size of shoes. The soles of their feet are stiff and thick and protect their feet as a shoe would, plus the top of their feet are covered in fur protecting them from the cold.

Shma:
that hodgepodge of black-s short - beggar ain't cool at awwll
Nigerians are just weaked
But I we I'll take that as a gospel truth basing on a successful wode maya

Yes, that escaped him. It probably linked to Corona...we cannot trade with Corona Magufuli for once.

gallivant:
It seems you can't read either. This will be Kenya's first Africa deficit. As if we didn't need any more confirmation of you all being our bitches in trade. Perfect timing my friend.

Moi had all leadership credentials but not education. M7 is an educated Moi. M7 is passionate. He is a sponge and likes to take as much information as possible.

mtisTheQubit:
Just like our late Mzee ehe.. i heard he knew even the names of the chiefs an sub-chiefs

Yeah that is brutal. I bet they use to sacrifice ghanians. Nigeria is like India. Modernity married with Voodo.

mtisTheQubit:
the worse is when they call Ghananians burnt offering ok thats just wicked

M7 is very brilliant and wise - dictator yes but very smart. M7 I bet now understand corona more than most doctors. I have lived in Uganda - there is no president like M7 - the guy literally knows every street, or village of Uganda. He can describe boda boda or okada thief in village x like he was there. He knows everything. And he is intellectual.

He has a thick accent and likes to explain things in african lanugages - and in kenya most people think you're daft if you cannot speak clearly in English - but M7 is very brilliant.

Just watch Corona virus...and he will come tops.

mtisTheQubit:
But seriously the guy had power to nip the thing..more power than Uhuru got..i thought he would go M7 way an lock it down..guess i was mistaken

Nigerian - the bleaching capital - have this thing where they call Ghanians - short darkish beggars - famine legacy of 1980s - and Ghanian refer to Nigerians as brutish thugs.

Shma:
the bolded has just killed me


As short as Ghanaian

As black as Ghanaian

Funny looking as Ghanaian

Lol! Nigerians are weaked

Precisely. Natural resources inflate GDP. But when they drop - the economy drops.

gallivant:
Stop looking for sympathy Danielle. Less than 10 years ago the Angolan GDP was almost twice that of Kenya and look where we are today? Mind you this was all achieved without having much natural resources.

Corona has really exposed their tinpot dictator for the fool he is. Pombe Magufooli. He completely lost his nuts. Tanzania will be ostracized in the world.

mtisTheQubit:
@Acadavah ..habari ya siku kaka ? au ni dada ..

NO it wasn't me. I think it was Gallivant or Mti who stated the hobbit - seem caricatured description of Ghanian by Nigerians - like a short funny looking dude.

Shma:
she got that word from RVP

Corruption precipitation index - I know its mistake - but I like it. Being dependant on one commodity like say Ivory Coast with Cocoa makes you as vulnerable as Nigeria with Oil.

Danielnino00:
They aren't serious.. what they do is to export tea and flowers and collect foreign aid.

For many decades now their northern region has been suffering from starvation... Their government has practically abandoned that region...it's being run by foreign charities..


To know how really messed up Kenya is,check their ranking every year in the corruption precipitation index...we have ranked better than them a lot of times...

Yes, there is also such a possibility. Kenya, as have always said, has serious issues captured by instability index (ethnicity, corruption), but it's doing well economically the last 15 plus years.

What I can certainly predict is Ethiopia going down very soon.

samorobo:
There is a possibility nigeria will go into civil war..
There is a possibility SA will become ZIM
There is a possibility Kenya will grow by 100% and become the largest economy in africa in about 5 years...

How crazy can your stupid jokes be....Kenya is going down whether or not you agree..logoff and face reality

Agriculture pays zero taxes. Ask me. Even in Kenya it contributes 25% of the economy and 70% of employment but contributes nearly zero to taxes. You cannot tax somebody planting his rice or arrowroots - and selling it in the farmers market. Agriculture is meant to feed people - not run gov. Maybe you can get a dollar for market rates every week. Outside natural resources - you can only tax formal economy - manufacturing, financials, formal retail, etc.

Don't think because you suddenly plant so much rice or yams - you'll become rich.

Danielnino00:
We have agriculture...

What if it doesn't pick?

Danielnino00:
You are blabbing rubbish.

Oil price will pick up...

This isn't the first time oil price will be crashing...

the collapse of oil - means the collapse of federal gov (90% of all revenues) - means the collapse of Nigeria - and break up of north, south & east - those are already mini-nations. The same will happen in Ethiopia soon and DRC eventually.

Ethiopia is probably 2-3yrs from a serious break-up.

See Venezuelas.

Danielnino00:
You are the one going to cause a civil war in Nigeria abi??

Then you know making 30yr projection is moronic. South Africa rand has dropped 30%. That is mini-Zimbabwe. You just need to double down that figure - and you're at Kenya's horizon.

And don't run back to GDP PPP.

jln115:
Ok then!!!

Also Zim became........Zim due to land grabs and sanctions, not because they were temporary struggling economically like SA!! And Libya got beat to a pulp by NATO............South Africa's economic situation isn't even remotely similar to the countries you've mentioned?

And actually no its totally within my paygrade mate!! analyzing economies is part of my job......unlike a software engineer!!

He can google all-day but some of us are paid more than 150K dollars per year minus perks to do very complicated sh.iet that you cannot just google.

mtisTheQubit:

he will start googling what a docker container is an start wailing about it..i saw that with his friend..a simple code an the guy is on google search..

Considering how he cannot handle basic arguments - I don't think he can do what some of us do. If he was to be put in charge of high availability zero downtime systems running a hundred of dockers container orchestrated by Kubernetes with load balancers and proxy servers with blue-green deployment all hooked up to CI-CD pipeline at AWS and Azure -and you still have to manage the software development - he will go crazy! Be happy to use of some of these very complicated systems that some of us run.

mtisTheQubit:
its like the guys live under the rock..times have changed folks ...i was tempted to tell him am a quantum physicist then I thought maybe that might give him a heart attack..

He makes it sound like software engineering is like being nuclear scientist or I don't which career is so rare.

mtisTheQubit:


anyway do you detect a bit of jealousy in that guy ? ...

The keyword hobbit is DEPENDANT.

Just30:
Wild life
Agriculture products and other minerals are all Commodities

In kenya's case, all it commodities are classified as non traditional commodities.
These commodities either do not have a futures market or are not a major part of the futures market

basically, they export valueless things

Let's say I have no career but I am actually a rodent seller on some highway. Let me know when you need the best rodent meat and soup - and I will get you sorted.

Just30:
so you also bought the software engineer nonsense ?

Yes, all the economics I know are self-taught. I'd appreciate some free lessons on how wrong. What I posted is more political economy. I have seen countries split - Sudan - and their GDP drop from 140b to now 40B. I have seen Zim become paupers in an overnight. I have seen Libya GDP drop from 150B dollars or about to 10B dollars.

Look like this is beyond the paygrade of investment analyst.

jln115:
Its a good thing you are a software engineer and not an economist!! because you know fuckall!!

There is the possibility of Nigeria going civil war - and splitting - and South Africa becoming ZImbwabwe. The rand seems to be sensing it - which explains 32% depreciation. That is a capital flight on a grand scale.

Your nominal gdp is down by 32% - depreciate by another 20% - and you're about half kaput - rand depreciate by another 30% from today - and your nominal gdp will be equal to kenya. That can happen in 1yr - currency depreciation of 60%.

Brazilian real is down - 42.4%. The nominal gdp is therefore nearly halved. That happened in like 2 months. So 30yrs is a big joke.

jln115:
30 years............And only if the South African and Nigerian economies stood completely still!!

Every country has resources. We are not resource-dependent on minerals like Ghana or Nigeria or South Africa.

IMF and WB have a little chart for such countries. Ghana is very lucky to now belong to both...but still you're eating rodents

https://blogs.worldbank.org/sites/default/files/developmenttalk/capture1_0.png

Just30:
simple question

are they resources or not?

and doyou have them or not

There you start with juvenile arguments.

Just30:
You have gold
oil, wildlife, land, coffee, tea, flowers

all are resources

Minerals are prospected and mined for by foreign companies - if we had them - they would have come for it.

Danielnino00:
You kiberans should stop with the lies already!

You have mineral resources...
You are just too f**king lazy to make good use of them.. the money you get from foreign aid is probably enough for u..

Yes, Morroco - give it 2-3yrs. Algeria is a bit far ahead - 5-7yrs. Nigeris is just about there. South Africa which is truly the Africa giant - 15yrs.

mtisTheQubit:
For a country with no mineral resources, i think we doing great
Morroco you are next