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Kenya education is not a joke my friends;
https://nation.africa/kenya/counties/2-arraigned-Kitui-teacher-lynching/1950480-5412260-ipr57m/index.html
This was just two years ago

Daughters Watched as Mother was Burned to Death by Mob
By STEPHANIE WANGARI on 10 January 2020 - 10:49 am

In an incident that could be considered as inhumane and brutal, Daisy Mbaithe Mbaluka, a teacher at Ndooni Primary School in Mutitu, Kitui County, was killed as her two daughters watched on Tuesday, January 7,2020.

Mbaluka was allegedly lynched by a mob, over the poor performance of students.
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Parents venting their fury on teachers for the failure of their children in the KCPE examination is an unprecedented phenomenon in Kenya.

And we are not talking about one or two schools; it appears there has been a spontaneous backlash countrywide.

Just30:
Why will I leave a better schooling system that exist in Ghana with good fun boarding system to come to your broken down system?

The Ghanaian system is so good such that most Ghanaians abroad prefer to bring their kids to Ghana government schools for their first and second education, so they can dominate in the US and Europe.

You scored 300 in pisa test..retarded.By time you lynch teachers for underperformance you'll understand it.Kenya a barren country without gold only path to success is normally good education.When East Africans hear Kenya professional they lock their n
border

vaxx:
if your interest is to ridicule my English write up , you are indeed daft and stupid at the same time , never will you be able to master my art of writings, it will take you another college program. And I also believe you can't also construct a well better arranged sentences when speaking more than me . Using this platform of little mistake here and there as my English strength must indicate you aren't smart by half. My power of paraphrasing is what you can never learn not until you go thru those standards I went thru. I am a polyglot and so is my parents ( an average person in my family speak nothing less than three to four languages excluding english pidgin) , I only need less than six month to master swahili if I visit kenya today. You can't crack it . You are too stupid .

They will kill you in Kenya if you murder English this much.Every Kenyan at minimum is trilingual.Go to twitter and try you baby class English near Kenyans

Obaaderemi2:
Kenyan men are sissies and this headteacher is indeed a regular candyass. Why was he crying on TV like an imbec.ile? Men don't do this show of shame in West Africa.

If he had left no stone unturned in his quest to make his students shine then the problem is with the children and their motorcycle riding parents. They didn't make the kids do extra work at home. A system that let kids know they'll be excused when they fail and someone else would take the fall is a useless system that will never stop producing dumb kids. Look at what the stvpid man is saying:

I know that school deeply. It's public school with very stellar record. I worked in that small town..we actually did an interview for a job with Nigerian..from I think Igbo..he was from Ireland with msc.We both got paid airflights and did week of interview...I beat him to the job.I have met kids in that school going there 4am...walking..normally they field large number and excel..I stayed there for a year..enrolled my daughter in private school..near there that wa also top 10 in entire kenya..that crazy.You don't understand just how serious take education. My daughter at 5yrs had to be in school by 6.That school is public for poor parents but they excel..this year they got punished . If they try cheat..they just deduct the marks instead of cancelling the whole results

This was last week..headteacher breakdown as he tries to explain poor results..many take cover for weeks..from irate parents.. they are demoted by teacher commission https://nairobinews.nation.africa/watch-headteacher-breaks-down-after-school-posts-poor-results-in-kcpe/ it always been this way since 1990s as kenya parents know their kids future is ruined so they go for headteachers neck https://allafrica.com/stories/201201060138.html

Just30:
Trust me, in Ghana, yours a d all the Kenyans here can be compared to KG kids.
Because, from primary level, kids here do literature.

Honestly count yourself lucky you never schooled in Kenya during our time..there was absolutely no chance any school would allow you sit for exams..lower mean grade and get them murdered...they would murder you first..you will be beaten senseless..and have to repeat every classroom..you would finally at 20yrs quit primary school .I remember in std 7 I changed school and then found myself sitting next 20yr old...he was very good in football but had no hope of going to stay 8..the pass mark in std 7 was tough..you could repeat 3 times.Kenya we take education very seriously. That is why people murder teachers.Schools eventually registered poor kids in fake school B.Education in Kenya is serious business...nursery kids can find themselves before dawn in schools.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://thomaslancaster.co.uk/blog/how-kenya-now-leads-the-world-in-enabling-contract-cheating/&ved=2ahUKEwiO8Jvr76b8AhX9RvEDHcKVD1kQFnoECA0QAQ&usg=AOvVaw2YA1Ur4-mHVDi1GPvNGCqS understand why Kenya is now generating phds and master degree that beat any plagiarism software...most of the kids doing these essay writing are undergraduate kids...US,UK,Australia and Canada kids know Kenya quality of work. If they give Ghanians they will turn in nonsense. The same with Indians or Pakistan. They strictly insist on Kenyans whose education speak itself. Take your a.rse to Kenya online brigade and see how you last with you nursery level English

AfriqueDuZuid:
So you still dillussional?

Did you actually read your own South African ministry of education presentation

Just30:
My written English on this platform has been better than yours and those of your fellow Kenyans.
My grammar has always been on point.

The Ghanaian educational system is speaking for itself by the results it has produced for the world.

You're arguing in the abstract instead of addressing the issues raised in that video

Trust me in Kenya your English is mid primary level.

AfriqueDuZuid:


It's 2023 you still dillussional

Read this report from your own ministry https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.education.gov.za/Portals/0/Documents/Publications/Roundtable%2520With%2520Deans%2520of%2520Education%2520and%2520Engineering%2520Faculties/Presentations/2%25203%2520and%25205%2520International%2520Studies%2520Dr%2520Chetty.pdf%3Fver%3D2018-02-20-143848-753&ved=2ahUKEwi8v9Lu7Kb8AhUBbvEDHfX2D5kQFnoECCYQAQ&usg=AOvVaw01ghScxWcQWS3Ek2rzpPTV

AfriqueDuZuid:
You mean SA that has 3rd best education after Seychelles and Mauritius?

SA students that makes top universities and make Africa shine?

Don't confuse Kenya with South africa

Just30:
The only dumb school children being discussed here are Kenyan kids.

If you want too, you can explain why Kenya education system does not produce good results to even qualify Kenya to participate in global science and maths competitions

Vaxx and your English is enough indictment of Ghana education quality..we don't need to bother with PISA or TIMSS where Ghana has unbroken record of mediocrity. To imagine Ghana is probably the West Africa North star...Ondiro the Kenyan YouTuber came short of describing your education system for what it is..a failure.

AfriqueDuZuid:
Limpopo and eastern cape are historically problematic provinces

Generally speaking you have 3rd World education in a 2nd world country ..and this dragging you down.You need to fix it otherwise the next decade..with information revolution..smart Kenya kids will simply leapfrog you.

Something like this..cape provinces far ahead of limpopo https://www.google.com/amp/s/mybroadband.co.za/news/government/379352-the-best-and-worst-provinces-for-mathematics-in-south-africa.html/amp

AfriqueDuZuid:
Nah western cape is not top in SA , you wrong again

They are not few they are many.... Again the very kids you trying to undermine are the very same that make SA universities top. Resilience and adaptation!

Just provide mean scores for each province

AfriqueDuZuid:
I've seen you not even aware that western cape is not a top performer in SA.

Black white purple sit on the same exam in sa , best performing students in SA are always black

We are talking average mean scores..not wild cards.The outliers in data is noise..like your few top universities ..that is noise we curl in data analysis..we are interested in the elephant

jl115:
I just did.... Do you want the link?

Explain why you came last in PISA..exclude the dumb Ghanians. Yours kids can barely score 50 percent

jl115:
UNDP's Human Development Report

Show me rating for quality of education...that put South Africa ahead of kenya outside higher education in few universities. There are many indicators..including useless now literacy stuff..but most important are quality basic education..that why countries watch PISA like hawks watch chicken

jl115:
all this rambling and yet our education system is rated much higher than that of kenya

Rated by who...your basic education that affect 90 percent of kids is crap..and you're talking about few universities you got..where only 5 percent of students ends. Your middle class trap is firmly and deeply routed in your poor education.That why I can predict with lots of confidence that Kenya will eventually catch up and beat South Africa unless our education as whole fails.South Africa schools for blacks remained in its bantustan historical problems...while Cape province is decent..rest have serious issues

Obaaderemi2:
Your education has failed. If the teachers are passing the exams set for the children with high percentile of above 90, then the problem is with the stvpid kids and their parents, parents like you constantly displaying their imbecility.

Again Kenya education has been assessed and compared they score off charts in Africa..Kenya workforce the same..that is why Kenya is where it is despite being barren.Your empty words devoid of any empiricism speaks more about your lack of education than anything. Kenyans has best education quality in sub Sahara bar Mauritius

Just30:
Teachers cannot crack the head of students who don't want to learn or are mentally deficient and put books inside

Parents also give teachers consent to murder stupid kids like you..in our time you would be maimed for writing such bad prose in lower primary .Honestly most of you would fail primary exams in Kenya

Off to the beach but it basically the foundation of what ails Nigeria and many africans.

You're used to mediocrity; you're used dry taps; you're used to power cuts; you're used to pretty much everything.

Kenya parents lynching teachers is great example of what Suffering and not smilling means

Obaaderemi2:
How does this relate to the subject of discussion? You probably just heard the fela expression.

1) It's admirable that failing teachers are punished(lynching is over the board) - I wish Kenyans extended the lynching to politicians. For Nigeria - suffer n smile so more. There has to be consequence to poor results.

2) You can only compare kenya education system with another country. You cannot compare kenya exams with kenya. It's kenyans who set the exams and mark them. Kenya gov decided in 2015 to discourage university education and go for TIVET. Therefore kenyan exams are now pretty tough and there is no normalization or standardization.

3) Trust me if kenya sat that useless WASCE or whatever - they would beat West African by 10 miles. That stupid ROTE learning exams was last seen in kenya maybe in 1980s. Kenya exams are very analytical. Try to find online - compare say WASCE biology paper and kenya form 4 - grade 12 - exams and see the difference. Almost every question is set in a way that require THINKING - not just naming 10 things or twenthy crap.

4) Kenya teachers have been assessed - they scored 99% of the exams the kids for - waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay above any in Africa. Most in Africa - teachers score imagine even 60% of the exams meant for kids.

Obaaderemi2:
Your kids in Kenya are just not good enough. Stop looking for excuses. Lynching teachers or parading teachers shoulder high are not signs of a society that take education seriously. I've posted results from Kenya of the final year secondary school exams over a five year period here. It's simply egregious, my boy.

The problem is that your teachers are poorly trained and the kids are dullards who can't wait to get out of school to go and make some money riding motorcycles.

Oba boy - you should listen to Fela Kuti song - stop suffering and smilling - do something - take actions - be responsible

Shuffering and Shmiling

Suffer, suffer, suffer, suffer, suffer
Suffer for world
Na your fault be that
Me I say: na your fault be that
I want you all to please take your minds
Out of this musical contraption
And put your minds into any goddamn church
Any goddamn mosque
Any goddamn Celestical
Including Seraphoom and Cheruboom
Now, we are all there now
Our minds are in those places
Here we go
Amen!
Suffer, suffer for world
Enjoy for Heaven
Christians go dey yab
"In Spiritum Heavinus"
Muslims go dey call
"Allahu Akbar"
Open you eye everywhere
Archbishop na miliki
Pope na enjoyment
Imam na gbaladun
Archbishop dey enjoy
Pope self dey enjoy
Imam self dey enjoy
My brother wetin you say?
My brother wetin you say?
My sister wetin you go hear?
My sister wetin you go hear?
Archbishop dey for London
Pope dey for Rome
Imam dey for Mecca
Archbishop dey for London
Pope dey for Rome
Imam dey for Mecca
Amen!
My people them go dey follow Bishop
Them go follow Pope
Them go follow Imam
Them go go for London
Them go go for Rome
Them go go for Mecca
Them go carry all the money
Them go juba Bishop
Juba Pope
Juba Imam
Then them go start to yab themselves:
Every day, for house
Every day, for road
Every day, for bus
Every day, for work
My people, my people
My people, my people
We now have to carry our minds
Out of those goddamn places
Back into this musical contraption
Right opposite you
Now we are back here
This is what happens to we Africans every day
Now wetin I want tell you now
Na secret o
Na confidential matter
Don't tell anybody outside
Na between me and you
Now listen
As I dey say before
E dey happen to all of us every day
We Africans all over the world
Now listen
Suffering and smiling!
Every day my people dey inside bus
Every day my people dey inside bus
Forty-nine sitting, ninety-nine standing
Them go pack themselves in like sardine
Them dey faint, them dey wake like cock
Them go reach house, water no dey
Them go reach bed, power no dey
Them go reach road, go-slow go come
Them go reach road, police go slap
Them go reach road, army go whip
Them go look pocket, money no dey
Them go reach work, query ready
Every day na the same thing
Every day na the same thing
Every day na the same thing
Every day na the same thing
Suffer, suffer for world...
How many, many a many you go make?
Many, many...
How many, many a many you go make?
Many, many...
How many, many a many you go make?
Many, many...
How many, many a many you go make?
Many, many...

It a cycle.
Parents pay - some at least half their income - to schools.
They expect school to perform - and do all it takes.
The school expect the kids to perform - and do all it takes.

Parents give teacher the pressure - the teachers give student pressure - and poor kids when they cant endure snaps.

Just30:


It's such a terrible thing to say and celebrate but Kenyans never seize to sink deeper into ditches.

He's proudly saying it as if teachers are the ones responsible for the terrible grades that Kenyan kids usually gets.
Everyone knows that the student is responsible for the grades he get in any exams

CLASSIC SUFFERING AND SMILLING as sung by Fela Kuti.

Normally it the mean score - not individual scores that determine the fate of school principals.
Those that exceed - are celebrated, paid money, garlanded.
Those that fail to meet the parent expectation - can end up even getting lynched
During our time and I think even now - head teachers disappear for few weeks - until parents anger subsidize.

Kenya parents are very responsible because they spend more than anyone else in kids education.
It's their biggest investment.

I wish Nigeria took at least somethings seriously - but we know you're used to SUFFERING AND SMILLING.

Kids education is SERIOUS business - but yes because the parents have generally handed teachers the kids and almost half their income - they expect success.

Obaaderemi2:
Kenyans are just irresponsible. Imagine a society where teachers are lynched because some irresponsible and poorly brought up kids failed.

You have an English comprehension problem.

The video clearly provides all the answers.

I clearly said the obsession with exams not wholesome education is responsible chiefly for schools' unrest and of course boarding system on its own need to be reduced. Kenya has world highest boarding school kids' ratio - and all these unrests are signs of a broken system.

All these issues have been studied in length and kanya is now on it's 10th year on the new system that has done away with "final" exam for continuous assessment.

The new education system also provides non-academic pathway early for kids who are gifted elsewhere in sports, crafts and leaving only the few who are interested in academic to proceed.

The verdict of new system will be known soon - maybe a decade - will kenya end up with happy fools like Ghana or South Africa - or smart happy kids like say in Finland.

That to me is biggest challenge...going forward...India/China academic focused versus Finland/Singapore versus South Africa/Ghana - kenya if not carefully could end up in South African/Ghana kind of situation as it shifts from India/China where kids are drilled to study like life depend on it.

Ghana situation is slightly better than Nigeria - but as clearly demonstrated in this thread - and in videos of kenyans - who have expressed frustration with holding basic of communication in English & logic - it's a failed system of education. Only those born and educated in diaspora are the shining light in a dark tunnel.

Ghana we know came bottom of the bottom of the bottom in PISA test - worse than South Africa.

Just30:
None of this write up address the concerns raise in this video or the questions I asked.
The quality education we all know addresses issues of extracurricular activities so that, by the time the child leaves the school, they are roundedly educated and provided support systems.
You like writing baseless stuff too much.

The boarding schools and its unrest are directly linked to high education expectations on poor kids - some of who are mentally stunted anyway.

Canning is now banned - after many serious assault cases - but during our time - the whipping kids endured.

https://workingwiththegrain.com/2018/02/28/better-education-kenyas-history-lesson-for-south-africa/

In the 2007 standardized tests for sixth graders conducted by the Southern (and East?) African Consortium for Monitoring Educational Quality (SACMEQ), Kenya’s average score was 557 points – well above South Africa’s average of 495 points, and only marginally below the Western Cape (the top performing province) score of 560 points; at the poorer 25th percentile, Kenya (with a score of 509 points) outperformed the Western Cape (496 points). These results were achieved notwithstanding higher levels of poverty, average per pupil expenditures which were one fifth of South Africa’s, a cadre of teachers who were no better trained, and (when compared with the Western Cape) a relatively messy bureaucracy.

Once the socio-economic influences on educational outcomes are taken into account, Kenya’s 2007 (and earlier) outperformance is even more remarkable. South Africa is among the countries below and to the right of the 45 degree line in the figure, which underperformed in SACMEQ relative to their socio-economic characteristics. Countries above and to the left of the line are over-achievers; Kenya stands out in the figure as far and away the most over-achieving of the countries participating in the 2007 SACMEQ assessments.

What seems to have made the key difference in Kenya are the ‘softer’ dimensions of governance. Dr. Ben Piper, a seasoned educational specialist, and long-term resident in Nairobi, put it this way:

“What one sees in rural Kenya is an expectation for kids to learn and be able to have basic skills….Exam results are far more readily available in Kenya than other countries in the region. The ‘mean scores’ for the Kenya Certificate of Primary Education (KCPE) and equivalent KCSE at secondary school are posted in every school and over time so that trends can be seen. Head teachers are held accountable for those results to the extent of being paraded around the community if they did well, or literally banned from school and kicked out of the community if they did badly.”

The role of the highly-visible KCPE test is striking, but is not the focus of this piece. Rather, my interest here is on the active engagement of communities.

None of that explain the root cause.

Google search "kenya parents lynch teacher for non-performance". TSC acts after parents lynch female teacher over poor results is the 1st results. Kenyans take education seriously - way too seriously - right from primary school - pressure on kids, teachers and school to excel is enormous .

The genesis of Kenya boarding schools that starts as early as lower primary was the obsession with passing exams as only way out of poverty.

This started in early 1990s as the SAP/Population/Sanctions dried up jobs - for the employed - and it became very tough to get a job. It wasnt until late 1990s that kenyan started to figure out immigration as options - which west africans have.

From 1990s - kenya schooling system became cutthroat competition like India and China.

Kids can barely sleep. It worse than prisons. In fact, most school disallow games and name it for final year students - kids barely sleep for 5yrs - and they snap.

Most kids are taken through that worse than prison school systems from grade 4 - and by high school - they hate schools - by university almost every kenyan kid hates education. University is only time kenya kids are finally free - and the last thing they want to do - is read another book - they now want drink and do all stuff they didnt do growing up.

Moi greatest legacy was his laser focus on education - having himself been a teacher - but I think kenya took it too much - now it's in dilemma to totally make education useless (no exams, no pressure, no boarding ) or continue with it's high quality education system that comes at very high cost.

Just30:
The problem was never boarding schools

Kenyan parents were just terrible at parenting their kids.
The schools were poorly financed and PTA seem like astro physics which was completely removed from their circumstances.
What happened to guidance and counseling department?
What happened to student unions where students get to express themselves?
What happened to Entertainment and sports?

A school is not supposed to be a prison




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DSDMPv9cSE

Nope. Most kenyans are now in services thanks to Motor Cycles, Mpesa and such things. I believe post COVID - the service sector has definitely overtaken agriculture - as the kenyan economy undergoes transformation and prepares for a leapfrog.

"Almost half of Kenya’s working population is in the service sector amid a shift from agriculture due to declining wages and salaries.

A World Bank report shows the share of Kenyans employed in the service sector rose by eight per cent to 42 per cent in the four years to 2019, as jobs in farming stagnated at 47 per cent."

“Growth and structural transformation allowed many Kenyans to transition out of agriculture during 2005- 2019, but this transformation has since stalled and remains uneven,” said World Bank in the Country Partnership Framework (CPF) report.

“During 2005-2015, the share of employment in agriculture declined from 58 to 47 per cent (from 70 to 45 per cent in the Central region) but then stagnated at 47 per cent during 2016-2019.”

https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/economy/better-wages-attract-more-workers-to-the-services-sector--4051674

AfriqueDuZuid:
No Boer is getting kicked

Our economic make up is different,

Kenya workforce 80% is in agriculture, that's totally different to South Africa workforce.

These kinds of things we need in africa -intra-africa trade and investment - not just AU long speeches.

GeneralDae:
East meets West: Ghana and Kenya link their stock markets to boost … – Garowe Online

NAIROBI, Kenya – In a bid to tap into the African continental growth both Kenya and Ghana have linked their stock/securities exchange allowing the cross-trading of equities and bonds from the pair of jurisdictions.

This new linkage of the Nairobi Securities Exchange (NSE) and the Ghana Stock Exchange (GSE) has been facilitated by SecondSTAX, a fintech that seeks to interlink African Capital Markets.

Through this new portal investors from both countries will be able to trade from either party with long-term plans set to see the inclusion of retail investors.

Geoffrey Odundo -NSE Chief Executive Officer has termed the new move as key to propelling market liquidity and trading growth as well as options to investors in Kenya and Ghana.

“These linkages are good as they will create a bigger market in Africa and will allow cross-border trading. Investors in Ghana who want to trade in Kenya will have a straight-through process,” Odundo said.

Krestel Capital -a stock brokerage firm has been chosen to support trade orders from the Kenyan side.

The new linkage comes ahead of the implementation of the Africa Exchanges Linkages Project (AELP) which is set to go live on December 7.

The linkage program is set to bring together notable exchanges on the continent including the NSE, Johannesburg Stock Exchange (JSE), Nigerian Stock Exchange, Stock Exchange of Mauritius, Egyptian Exchange, and the Casablanca Stock Exchange.

The program also features the Bourse Regionale des Valeurs Mobilieres which brings together exchanges in Benin, Burkina Faso, Cote d’Ivoire, Guinea Bissau, Mali, Niger, Senegal, and Togo.

The project is a joint initiative of the African Securities Exchanges Association (ASEA) and the African Development Bank (AfDB).
Meanwhile, neighboring Rwanda, Uganda, and Tanzania are set to link their stock exchanges in a World Bank-funded project which will see the three operate a single market.

Do you know how much Lagos city and it's people LOSE everyday in world worst commute.

Average time spent in your traffic is 4-6hours. That is half a day of work in most cities. I bet some even spend 4hours in morning and another 4 hours in evening to get home. That a whole day of productive work.

So imagine generally you're losing half your GDP stuck in traffic. If China was to build toll roads and charge a little money to recoup their investment and make a small profit - you'd be far ahead. You'd spend an hour of commute like everyone else - 30 mins in morning - 30 mins in afternoon max - and use the rest of hours in your business or work - and improve productivity & efficiency of the economy.

But Zoo punishes it's citizens with world worst commute - plus world worst electricity supply - the reward - the world worst gdp to revenue at 5.5% or less - despite being top oil producer - and of course now world's poverty capital - with more poor people than India - 1.5b country

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