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jl115:
the world can always be more fair I agree, however there is no slavery in SA, by your definition there should then be more slavery in Kenya since you earn half of what black SAns earn and Kenya's minimum wage is half that of SA.

Our blacks are experiencing fast growth that is empowering and dignified.Their growing the economy from agriculture that you deride as dirty job or beyond african.In a decade once South Africans discovers Kenya economic miracle they will kick the boer out.We are building modern economy on the back of smallholder farmers,motorcycles,mobile money and information technology.

Shaytun:
Lmao..you are hilarious ..just what is this?

After scouring through the internet, you still could not find anything, you are posting a link that has nothing to do with the discussion.

I don't need more than first entry of Google search for you Zoo.How did your 2021 or 2022..actual vs projection pan out.You always make ridiculous projections but your total revenues including all states is ridiculous.Nigeria is an obvious zoo.Its now has world worst gdp to revenues ratio..something 5.5 percent

Nigeria hilarious budget making...First four months..actual revenue were 45 percent of projected.Who does these projections and what are they on.In Kenya projected versus actual are very close..infact its sometimes exceed the projections..105%...but the Zoo..
www.dataphyte.com
Nigeria's 2022 Budget Revenue Projections have been Revised, it is now ...

jl115:
-nobody said Africans can't farms.

- we are one of the most free countries in the Africa, if you don't won't to work for someone then you don't have to simple, there isn't any slavery in SA

So story has changed to everyone is equal. There many modern form of slavery. https://pmg.org.za/committee-meeting/34671/

theenchanter:
Make una no give rvp hbp with all these budget figures, he wouldn't want that.

But do I really care if he gets hbp? Never!

Budget and GDP are figures you can cook .They are estimates. They are at best guesstimate of how big economy is and how ambitious you want to spend.Nigeria I guess being election year they are going crazy on you with wild projections.What are Nigeria revenue's at federal and state this 2022..how is the current budget performing..projected versus actual. NOT EVERY COUNTRY IS A ZOO LIKE NIGERIA where you promise to double spending..when currently debt services takes all the money..lecturers went on a year long strike..pensions remain unpaid..salaries I doubt is upto date..your country should be halving the budget..not doubling

jl115:
- South Africa doesn't have an environment which is conducive for dairy cattle, we have a lot of diseases and low waterfall and cattle need to be resistant to that, unfortunately dairy cattle are soft hence why SA has never been a large dairy producing country. Avocado's need a lot of water... Thus again only a few farmers grow them... Kenya in general is wetter than SA so no surprise you are growing more avocado's.

- Some black South Africans have formed partnerships and are doing very well for themselves

- I never said Boere are the only ones that can farm Commercially.... What I said was a great number more Boere want to be commercial farmers than Black South Africans... My grandfather had a commercial dairy farm, its a sh1t job, so much so that not one of his sons decided to carry on with it and he sold his farm.

Lame excuse...South Africa was ahead in many things and we heard Africans can't farm..Kenya smallholders farming is working..so is Ghana and ivory Coast.But seeing how the slumdog enjoy the Boer slavery and seeing how he is killing Africa immigrants...I think we leave them to their folly. The reality in those farms..its blacks who do the donkey work like US & LATAM slave plantations.Then slumdog turn around to claim...he can't farm..yet he is the farm hand. You have one Boer owning thousands of acres with village of modern willing African farm slaves...who apparently can't farm.

jl115:
exactly besides being a commercial farmer is a very very sh1t job....much different to just being a subsistence farmer which has a lot less stress.

Small holders can become commercial..see Kenya..we already beat boer in milk production..we evertook them in avocado's..name any fruits and vegies.. name it..Kenya tea is on the back of smallholder farming..the smallholder organised into cooperative can beat large farms.The southern Africa negros needs to realise it can be done ...the idea that only white commercial can farm is silly..boer has land in entire white world..USA,Australia, Brazil are rolling carpets for them...a black south Africa only land is their ancestors land..they cannot be allowed to farm in rural Georgia without getting shot by white racist boys

Slumdog with strawman arguments to deflect the elephant in the room.
I actually had to search few pages just to be sure I did not make such a boneheaded statement.
I always know it's 70%.

You need that agriculture farm to save yourself from that slum.
70% for people who are 10% of the population is a problem.

I support Malema and EFF on land issue.

AfriqueDuZuid:
Where did it state that they own 90% of land like you said before?

It's only agric land and at best is as 70%

First Google results -70% despite being 10%.

The growing fight in South Africa over land and identityhttps://abcnews.go.com › International › story
10 Apr 2019 — Whites in South Africa own over 70% of the farm and agricultural holdings in the country despite people of color making up 90% of the population

jl115:
How much total land do whites own? Give me a figure then we see if Boere really are sitting on all the land

Copied - these are realistic scenarios in 2024.

ANC gets close to 50, but just below, and doesn’t work with anyone and forms a minority government;
ANC gets into the mid-40s and works with the EFF of Julius Malema to form a government;
ANC gets into the mid-40s and works with the DA to form a government;
ANC gets in the low 40s and the opposition, with the backing of the EFF, forms an alternative government.

I think you'll be with ANC for at least another decade. It will keep losing urban support but will keep rural poor south africa bedrock. If you dont improve the fortunes of the poor - they will drag your country down by supporting a corrupt ANC. You will wish you gave them motor cycles to swap them with wheelbarrows.

jl115:
After Ramaphosa the ANC is practically finished, the ANC are polling around 40% now,of that 40% 35% said they will not vote ANC if Ramaphosa is not the President, the ANC will be a non factor by 2029.

Also ASA is not just taking the moderate vote its also climbing into a lot of EFF vote,who's voters have become disillusioned with the party because of its open border policy, ActionSA took nearly 3% of the national vote during the previous yet only contesting 6 municipalities... They will be up around 6-8% in 2024 and after that probably around 17-19% in 2029

Motorcycle debate - they cannot understand the nexus btw land and their immediate problems. If land is non issue - why is Boer sitting on it.Ideally because most boers can get formal jobs - you should leave land to unskilled africans to forage, hunt, gather and farm it. It requires no skills..you're very skilled and can hack urban living.

jl115:
I'm also sure they don't agree with it, you are right! .......... however having a job, not being killed or raped and not being robbed, seemed more important than land when they were asked that question.

You think DA/ASA will have numbers to form gov? That would take ANC capitulation. Most likely scenario ANC will lose that 5% of moderate to DA/ASA but will remain with hardliners who will go to bed with Malema...driving South Africa to a ditch.

Reality check
1 African National Congress ANC 230 57.50%
2 Democratic Alliance DA 84 20.77%
3 Economic Freedom Fighters EFF 44 10.79%
4 Inkatha Freedom Party IFP 14 3.38%
5 Freedom Front Plus FF PLUS 10 2.38%

jl115:
the EFF has reached its peak, the DA could maybe grow another 4-5%, but Imo Action SA will become the 3rd maybe even 2nd largest party by 2029....meaning that a DA/ASA coalition will be most likely then.

He is THE GOAT - both on and off field. Incredibly multi-talented all rounder both on and off field.

Obaaderemi2:
THE ORIGINAL GOAT GOES HOME

vaxx:
You need to be checked for too much alcoholic intake just like how this Ghana police doing.

You have waited almost the whole day to show us that..I will take that alcohol test after nana and the finance minister...whatever they've been on since 2020 is clearly a new drug that need proper research.I mean when you hear South Africa has gone imf and you're heading to Ireland for eurobond..you're on new drugs

jl115:
what land issue? They did a poll infact asking people what the most important things are that need to be addressed in South Africa.... Do you know how many people said land?..... Less than 1%, literally less than 1% think that land is an issue that needs resolving in SA.

I am sure during apartheid they had such polls..no self respecting South Africans can agree to their land being sat on by boer

jl115:
Ramaphosa is still ANC president and I can assure you there is a much better chance of a DA ANC coalition than ANC EFF coalition

I am talking next election...post ramaphosa..we will likely have malema and anc hardliners..or for your da,action party and malema..I don't see malema working with any boer..your best bet is moderate anc continue..please pray for ramaphosa

jl115:
I started PayPal, tesla and space x.... I'm worth $200 billion.... You spend an hour on Nairaland as an anonymous user telling other anonymous users that you got 97 for math

it's OK for you to regale us with your hunting and gathering escapades but we can't tell you about our search knowledge. HUMANS EVOVLE FROM HUNTING N GATHERING 70,000 years ago.Restrain your neartherdal gene .For almost all Africans hunting is childish activity people outgrow...hunt better things..

AfriqueDuZuid:
Land is never an issuevis an after thought hit in top 10 issue, Malema is not pro poor.

People got land in rural even many in in urban areas have land in rural areas.

You can have him in kenya ... We good

ANC will fall below 50 percent..next election..ushering coalition politics in Azania...malema will decide South Africa future..his 10 percent..he backs progressive boer party..or very likely he back hardliners in ANC. I see ANC hardliners ruling with Malema..you might get Zimbabwe soon.The boer will wish Zuma was president as malema and anc hardliners don't give a damn about boer economy.I don't see malema ever backing DA..he would be killing his party

Just30:
I like the way your argument shifts all the time to the abstract

Kenya is bankrupt.. FACT
Ghana is not .. this is also a FACT..

Kenya bankruptcy levels of 140% compulsory spending bill led it to default on 4 debt and counting.. Kenya has also pushed forward the payment of 10 debt instrument that were due to next year. Technically, you can call that a default as well.

Accept those facts as they are and you'll return to sanity if there is any left in your head.

What Ghana declared was a freeze on payment due in 2026 till renegotiation.... You'll have to wait till 2026

See classic madness.When you can't pay for any reason you call your bank and negotiate. YOU HAVE NOT DEFAULTED.You can ask your bank to extend the repayment period because you're having issues paying.if they accept great if they refuse you pay.You only default if you disappear for three years then eventually reappear to unilaterally announce you won't pay and will pay when you want. YOU HAVE DEFAULTED. NO ONE WILL TRUST YOU AGAIN.Everytime you get into problems call you bank and try to negotiate...be honest..tell then business is bad due covid..see if they extend time or give you a moratoriumon interest..negotiate before shit hit the fan...but if you disappear..you default..then they start loading punitive charges .Ghana of it followed Kenya would have avoided default. You can see a storm coming and you continue swimming. IS THAT MADNESS OR INBORN STUPIDITY .Heck South Africa run to higher grounds of imf but here is Ghana running to gorge himself with Eurobond in middle of a storm.Eti afraid to get credit rating now..now look they are D minus.They might soon create F for epic failure if madness continues..3yrs to realise that economy was flattering is crazy

Just30:
I speak favorably of Ghana because everything indicates it's a far better country.
I don't follow your delusional kind of argument that Kenya will catch up here, here and here when there no signs of it.
Where I need to criticize Ghana, I do, like in the aspect of it political climate

if a country grows at 7 percent consistentl for a decade it double it gdp in decade and becomes middle class if like Kenya its gdp per capita is 2000.Again you can argue the sky is red but please learn basic of sound argument. GHANA IS BANKRUPT. FACT.KENYA IS NOT BANKRUPT. FACT.GHANA officially filled chapter 11 in USA speak or protection kn Kenya and went under imf receivership. WE HAVE TO ACCEPT FACTS.They are stubborn things.You can't criticise if you can't accept Ghana is now ranked junk or defaulted

Just30:
And you went on generalizing that level of poverty transportation for all Africa despite the education

Nobody will buy your strenuous heck admirable propaganda that Ghana is not what it looks, smells and feel from pictures, videos and anecdotal evidence..I know in your deranged mind..you're South Africa equal.I criticise South Africa but I know they are miles ahead of us.They are upper middle income. Its just the income inequality that gives an opening..otherwise the boer lives in world class developed world..although crime and drugs starting to mess his Kingdom.Soweto slumdog posted his shack while the boer has posted his eldorado living large in Africa...many whites in Europe would
Kill to live the boer lie..The boers know it...that's is why he swears he will never leave Africa and speak Afrikaan.The slumdog need our help to rescue himself and Starr to smell reality..he needs a motorcycle

AfriqueDuZuid:
Go on, start with the race argument

Pull your race card

Race is a germaine issues in South Africa.The land issue need to be solved.I speak the truth always.I support malema that poor african without any hope like you need to get small pieces of land to grow their food.With your low IQ..you can only become a thug in joburg.Go back to the village and farm goats

Just30:
Typical lunacy .... I guess you don't know about Europe and malnutrition because they've not played it in the news cycle and generalize it to such stupid levels like you're doing here.
No wonder they come to Kenya and use the face of your country as the face of hunger and malnutrition globally.
You've moved from your stupid motorcycle argument to another one of the numerous things I have to correct you on.

Dumb kid with dumb argument daily

I flow with arguments..motor cycle debate was brought by soweto slumdog.I don't quite remember how it started but it was from his derision of East Africa motorbikes that started it all

jl115:
I also cured cancer btw

You're highest achievement is cpas..you're an idiot to me..I did accounting in high school...nobody came to close me...I read proper cpas in my free time from my brother books..learnt law 101,economies 101, financial accounting.My friend I can read your cpa in a two days n pass.I didn't go to university class in whole forty year..I read a night before exam..accept some people have special brains.I can write you another quickbooks if I you want.Obama the US president has quoted my work.I have done stuff they send CIAs to see.Our startup became us federal contractor very early...

Just30:
lunatic and I'm telling you it's a stupid way to make an argument.
A handfull of selected European countries have it ranging from 10% to 20% and you don't see anyone generalizing that Europe has malnutrition of 20%.

You're intellectually handicap and that is why you'll be posting such nonsense

First sign of stupid or mad person is fight reality..Europe and malnutrition..Russia winning the war...Ghana is great...please get help my friend. I WILL SEND YOU TO DEEP ABYSS BECAUSE I GOT NO FEELINGS. I have to remind myself to be nice..

Look like it's not just nutrition but also high temperature causes stunting..physical and mental best exemplified by Ghanians here.They cannot even write a coherent English statements despite learning it all their lifes.They still write and speak like nursery kid in Kenya
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/08/01/heat-malnutrition-children-west-africa/

Just30:
If you mean 30% to 50% in poor countries like Kenya , then you're right but don't generalize it for the continent.

It's a stupid way to make an argument

I said Africa mad man including Ghana.. average malnutrition is high and this has serious ramifications..youre definitely mentally stunted.The truth is truth..anyone fighting reality is either stupid or mad...not using his brain

Obaaderemi2:
It's a shame you passed your defective genes of imbec.ility to your children. Like I said I only pity you. Why would I hate you like you feared?

Let me be very honest with you. Each time you talk about your childhood I just wonder what you are celebrating. BBC world service was the most popular thing educated Nigerians listened to from the 60s to the mid 90s. And Times, Newsweek and Economist were popular here. I can post you pictures of my own pile of old economist mags and others. I still keep a few at least.

These were from uncles and my dad. Some of the mags are older than you.

Great memories. Good.I read from 1960s.My father was like me a ferocious reader.He had entire room full of books and magazines. He lost most in 1989.Moi police raided our home looking for seditious magazines. My dad was in imprisoned meanwhile. There was crackdown in Kenya over something called mwakenya ..this was aftermath of Raila 1982 aborted coup when kenya became police state as response.Anyway after they searched they found nothing incrementing. As soon the police left my mother ordered all books buried in pit laterine.My dad was released after a weekend. He managed to save some.In early 1990s I discovered a ceiling route to the room...I would lock myself reading until my brother discovered me.They saw money in tonnes of newspapers...and they slowly carted them away to local butcheries to used to cover meat.By time my father discovered it..lots was gone.They of course said its was me..my father from that day...gave me new newspapers and magazines...I was 10yrs.He would read then pass to me underlining sections he thought were important. I WOULD STILL SNEAK TO READ OLD STUFF

AfriqueDuZuid:
You are non of those

All that you said about yourself is unproven, your education, social life, financial life, it will remain untrue till the end

You think all aspies end up rich and famous..actually majority don't.. it just now IT gives the geeks the platform to be pop stars..without information revolution..we would be in science labs .The world is now ruled by geeks..the wierdo.Elon musk,Zuckerberg, Gates,Steve jobs..name them...geeks or programmers run the world after computer took over your life slowpoke.They solve computer problems then make crazy money.

AfriqueDuZuid:
Smart people don't even try to desperately prove that they are smart.

It's always weaklings like you who are desperate on a faceless platform, all that you said about yourself is unproven will remain so

They are two types of smart..Elon musk has aspergers..he doesn't give fck..then they many smart people who are gracious and humble..most smart people though are atypical..they are called mad or absent minded proffesors.Then normal smart folks are not that many trust me..they just lacks the commitment required to succeed in intellectual pursuit.You need to obsessed and possessed to solve the most difficult problems..you need total concentration for a long time

Obaaderemi2:
He has Always been a poor learner. It's a sign of inferiority complex. Such people are always afraid of learning.

30 percent of Africans in their first 1000 days suffer delibilating malnutrition that severely permanently stunt their brain growth and however their commitment to learning can't get it.I count myself extremely lucky because my brain is a typical. I WOULD BE LIKE YOU.STUPID AND NOT EVEN AWARE.Most of you know you're retarded when Asian or white guy from countries where average IQ come to Africa and see how retarded we are.We really need to improve nutrition..most Africans are lost cause.In USA they are providing free food to new mothers because once the kid get brain damage..its over

AfriqueDuZuid:
He's refusing to learn

Let me be very honest..you're one most thick headed..your IQ I doubt is 80.Take a test.Oba dude is half decent..maybe 100.