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Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 9:08am On Jun 07, 2019
Despite the negative usual anti-chinese sentiments - Kenya SGR is great success. It began last year Jan with 1 train - (Ethiopia I think are still on 2 trains a day) - and kept adding a train every month - to carry 400,000 TEUS in the first 15 months of operation for cargo is good start. The passengers services is doing great.
Jonraid:
These are the benefits!

So you are saying that 3 million people and almost half a million TEUs have been transported without accidents being reported? That's one of the benefits you can pull from usage of Railway transport!
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 8:35am On Jun 07, 2019
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 8:30am On Jun 07, 2019
In the meantime - Kenya SGR - started construction in 2014 - and in record 3yrs was in Nairobi - and now in Naivasha (about 600ksm) - and in 2yrs of operation (1 yr for cargo)...

According to the statistics from the Africa Star Railway Operation Company Ltd, by 31st May, SGR has offered service to 3 million passengers and transported 440,000 TEUs. The transportation management to 25 stations out of 33 is fully handled by Kenyan employees. The localization of 9 passenger service stations, train service and passenger management has reached beyond 90%.

Compare to NIGERIA smiley

Nigeria SGR I think began in 2006 smiley and is still far from complete - Lagos - Kano SGR - only complete part is Abuja-Kaduna -200kms- (possibly with embarrassing operational stats).

Abuja-Kaduna - (3yrs) of “safe operation of the Abuja- Kaduna train service” offering services to over 1.5 million passengers so far. MSA-NBI in 2yrs - 3M passengers.

Jonraid:
Waiting patiently to see if Air Tz and their railway will make profits! It's a worldwide phenomenon that such ventures mostly don't generate monetary profits even those in developed nations!

Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:24am On Jun 07, 2019
Without federal protection in the form of imports banning - you manufacturing would collapse in a month.
68816419:
U know nothing about Nigeria, and who fckng told u that Dangote controls Nigeria at large, have you heard of this top industrialists in Nigeria ?
, they could be reacher than Dangote in real sense .

Mr Oba Otudeko, Founder of Honeywell Group,
Innocent Chukwuma, CEO of Innoson Industries,
Abdulsamad Rabiu, Chief Executive Officer of BUA Group (produces everything as Dangote)
Cletus Ibeto, CEO of Ibeto group.
Razaq Okoya, owner of the Eleganza Industries,
Stella Okoli, CEO of Emzor Pharmaceuticals,
Fidelis Anyebea, CEO of Fidson Healthcare Services,
Uchechukwu Ogah, President of Masters Energy Group,
Chika Okafor, CEO of Chicasson Group of Companies.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 1:14pm On Jun 06, 2019
I think you're confusing Kenya with South Africa. South Africa need to do stuff like Electronics and expensive fashion stuff. Kenya is not yet there. Kenya still have huge infrastructure deficit - bridging that deficit alone should see the economy double in less than 10yrs. Yes kenya has done well in energy sector from a very low base of 12-15% electrification - we've gone to 75%. Kenya excel in Finance & intermediation - and now with mobile money & fintech - thinks are looking up for that sector. There are nearly 250K mobile money agents - and another 60K - banking agents. Kenya also excel in ICT sector - competing with South Africa and Nigeria in Africa.Kenya agriculture despite the limited land size - just scratched the services - If kenya were to improve the value chains - as is - it could easily double it's agricultural production. Social sector is really looking up and so is the real estate & construction sector. The travel & tourism industry is looking up again - and if we sustain the growth - we could get to South Africa's 10M visitors in a decade.

Where kenya continues to struggle is going manufacturing- because we have some highest electricity cost, taxes and labour cost.

obaaderemi:
By the time Ethiopia liberalises its economy, it's over for Kenya. What Kenya can do is to concentrate on things that others around it can not make such as electronics and expensive fashion stuff. With the sophistication of the Kenyan economy and supposedly good power supply and infrastructure, by now Kenya should be ruling Africa in the manufacture of such high end goods.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 1:08pm On Jun 06, 2019
You're writting nonsense as usual.

Nigeria economy - is not even 300B - if you need to see 270B economy - look at Algeria - both produce about the same size of oil per day and Algeria has lot more gas - and obviously Algeria has lot more manufacturing. Nigeria GDP cooked. Right from agriculture - they have no data to back their agricultural activities - I mean the quantities of yams or sorghum or rice they claim to produce. They seem to just do kamikaze surveys and extrapolate national figures. When their own agricluture minister was asked about their rice production figures - he quoted IndexiMulli smiley

Ethiopia has not overtaken gdp in nominal gdp - maybe in PPP - and there is no projection it will overtake Kenya anytime soon. Ethiopia obviously has some promise if they open their economy - but they also face many serious ethnic risks - debt risks - and etc. Ethiopia is progressive nation and I hope it continues it reforms.

Kenya is on another level....has invested in human capital (education), is about to reap the benefits of demographic dividend, has well diversified economy and only way is up.

cossano:
Nigerian economy is one of the largest informal economies in the world alongside Thailand, current credible sources put Nigerians nominal GDP at about 500b dollars, but in actual sense Nigerian economy is at 1trillion dollars. i don't know what people gain by denying the obvious, plus Kenya will never surpass the Ethiopian economy again, Ethiopia receives the largest share of FDI in the entire east African region coupled with their large population and consistent growth rates year in year out. remember Ethiopia doesn't suffer fluctuations in economic growth due to elections such as Kenya,and with the recent arrival of their reform minded prime minister in the the name of Abiy Ahmed and the normalization of ties with Eritrea, only sky is the limit for Ethiopia. Kenya from now onwards we will play second fiddle to Ethiopia until infinity due to the bad economic decisions from our economic gangsters masquerading as leaders. it suffice to say HAIL the new king in east Africa. ETHIOPIA
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 1:02pm On Jun 06, 2019
Not really. Let me remind you about Nairobi again.

Problemkid1:
But it's better than that shitthol city you called nairobi. Nairobi is a complete slum. A concrete shitthol angry

Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 9:22am On Jun 06, 2019
They actually never - last year - they were projected to hit I think 90B - then they devalued their currency birr by I think 17% -and went down to 85B - and Kenya ended the year with with 89B dollar gdp.

Tanzania the dullards are not even at 60B.

tylann:
Ethiopia had overtaken kenya but again we overtook them
Tanzania will never overtake kenya
It could have overtaken kenya In 2005
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 9:19am On Jun 06, 2019
Underwhelming. Looks crappy as always.
Problemkid1:
Watch and stop comparing your useless slum city with Mega city



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxwqq8PJGPQ
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 9:13am On Jun 06, 2019
This is mid 2019 - Kenya economy now - is around 95B - by end year it will be 100B - WB projects 100.1B and IMF around 99B. Normally they are few points off the mark.

As for Nigeria overcooked gdp - and dreams of dangote, centerary & big plans of the future - let us know when that happen.

What we know from 1st Q - even with cooking - Nigeria GDP is not out of the woods.

samorobo:
Open your eyes and check my post properly .it's says 2018 not 2019 and are a mere $79bn.economy.
Who told you oil price won't rising.hate and doom has ate the better part of your life.
I hope you know that US -CHINA trade war is at the verge of settlement and once that occur oil price would be back on track. And even if that doesn't happen we will personally save all oil producing nations in the world particularly africa with the emergence of dangote refinery.
Next I will be updating you on our minning sector. Damn it nigeria is so blessed.
Pls post currency that are reputable not some inflated currency. That way I can gracefully watch your non $100bn economy grin cheesy grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:34am On Jun 04, 2019
You cannot just devolve power without building capacity. Even getting here - devolution - is a big struggle. Counties have big function in Health and Agriculture - and the consensus seem to be they have really struggled. Why would you want to load more functions when it has no capacity. Or you want to end up with Nigeria where salaries & pension areas are the norm, gov services are totally absent and the works.

I think you're generally disingenuous and dishonest -coz you're politically frustrated by Raila inability to win power.

What we need in Kenya - is to slowly entrench devolution - and to keep loading more functions that are better done there - for example - we can devolve school infrastructure - counties are better placed to handle that. we also need to unload some functions - for example doctor and nurses recruitment & salaries are probably better handled by national commission like TSC - we can leave the counties to handle hospital infrastructure and stoking of medicine - but I think they simply cannot handle nurses and doctors!

cossano:
men i wish i could give you a million likes, this is the problem with the so called devolution, its nothing more than the former districts we use to run with nothing substantial devolution, imagine counties education functions are limited to Early childhood education and village polytechnics! who does that, counties can only construct village feeder roads, i mean its a fraud, devolution or federalism is about functions not money, money will follow functions
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:15am On Jun 04, 2019
Look like they gave Nigeria a token smiley - otherwise the awards are dominated by KENYA and SOUTH AFRICA.
Africa
Africa's Leading Airline 2019 Ethiopian Airlines
Africa's Leading Airline - Business Class 2019 Kenya Airways
Africa's Leading Airline - Economy Class 2019 Kenya Airways
Africa's Leading Airline Brand 2019 Ethiopian Airlines
Africa's Leading Airport 2019 Cape Town International Airport, South Africa
Africa's Leading All-Inclusive Resort 2019 Diamonds La Gemma dell'Est, Zanzibar, Tanzania
Africa's Leading Beach Destination 2019 Diani Beach, Kenya
Africa's Leading Beach Resort 2019 Diamonds La Gemma dell'Est, Zanzibar, Tanzania
Africa's Leading Boutique Hotel 2019 Saxon Hotel, Villas and Spa, South Africa
Africa's Leading Boutique Hotel Brand 2019 Mantis Collection
Africa's Leading Business Car Rental Company 2019 Hertz
Africa's Leading Business Hotel 2019 Transcorp Hilton Abuja, Nigeria
Africa's Leading Business Travel Agency 2019 Satguru Travel & Tourism
Africa's Leading Business Travel Destination 2019 Nairobi, Kenya
Africa's Leading Car Rental Company 2019 Europcar
Africa's Leading Casino Resort 2019 Sun City Resort, South Africa
Africa's Leading City Destination 2019 Durban, South Africa
Africa's Leading City Hotel 2019 Pepperclub Hotel & Spa, South Africa
Africa's Leading Conference Hotel 2019 Radisson Blu Hotel & Convention Centre, Kigali, Rwanda
Africa's Leading Conservation Company 2019 Mantis Collection
Africa's Leading Cruise Line 2019 Silversea Cruises
Africa's Leading Cruise Port 2019 Port of Durban, South Africa
Africa's Leading Curated Group Travel Company 2019 Rovia
Africa's Leading Design Hotel 2019 MannaBay, South Africa
Africa's Leading Destination 2019 Kenya
Africa's Leading Destination Management Company 2019 Destination Kenya
Africa's Leading Family Resort 2019 Leopard Beach Resort & Spa, Kenya
Africa's Leading Festival & Event Destination 2019 Cape Town, South Africa
Africa's Leading Game Reserve Brand 2019 Singita Game Reserves
Africa's Leading Green Hotel 2019 Aberdare Country Club, Kenya
Africa's Leading Hotel 2019 Selman Marrakech, Morocco
Africa's Leading Hotel Brand 2019 Hilton Hotels & Resorts
Africa's Leading Hotel Residences 2019 The Residences at Leopard Beach Resort & Spa
Africa's Leading Hotel Suite 2019 Nelson Mandela Platinum Suite @ Saxon Hotel, Villas and Spa, South Africa
Africa's Leading Inflight Magazine 2019 Sawubona (South African Airways)
Africa's Leading Low-Cost Airline 2019 fastjet
Africa's Leading Luxury Hotel 2019 The Twelve Apostles Hotel & Spa, South Africa
Africa's Leading Luxury Hotel Villa 2019 Villa Two @ Ellerman House, South Africa
Africa's Leading Luxury Island 2019 Thanda Island, Tanzania
Africa's Leading Luxury Lodge 2019 Silvan Safari, South Africa
Africa's Leading Luxury Private Villa 2019 Villa iZulu @ Thanda Safari, South Africa
Africa's Leading Luxury Resort 2019 Mandarin Oriental, Marrakech, Morocco
Africa's Leading Luxury Safari Lodge 2019 Omaanda
Africa's Leading Luxury Tented Safari Camp 2019 Olare Mara Kempinski Masai Mara, Kenya
Africa's Leading Luxury Tour Operator 2019 Abercrombie & Kent
Africa's Leading Luxury Train 2019 The Blue Train
Africa's Leading Meetings & Conference Centre 2019 Kenyatta International Convention Centre, Nairobi, Kenya
Africa's Leading Meetings & Conference Destination 2019 Durban, South Africa
Africa's Leading MICE Hotel 2019 The Westin Cape Town, South Africa
Africa's Leading National Park 2019 Serengeti National Park, Tanzania
Africa's Leading New Hotel 2019 Pangolin Chobe Hotel, Botswana
Africa's Leading Online Travel Agency 2019 FlightSite
Africa's Leading Private Game Reserve 2019 Shambala Private Game Reserve, South Africa
Africa's Leading Private Island Resort 2019 Azura Quilalea Private Island, Mozambique
Africa's Leading Resort 2019 Sun City Resort, South Africa
Africa's Leading River Cruise Company 2019 Zambezi Queen Collection
Africa's Leading Safari Company 2019 Go2Africa
Africa's Leading Safari Lodge 2019 Thanda Safari Lodge at Thanda Safari, South Africa
Africa's Leading Serviced Apartments 2019 Lawhill Luxury Apartments, South Africa
Africa's Leading Sports Resort 2019 Legend Golf & Safari Resort, South Africa
Africa's Leading Tented Safari Camp 2019 Finch Hattons, Kenya
Africa's Leading Tour Operator 2019 Pollman's Tours & Safaris
Africa's Leading Tourist Attraction 2019 Table Mountain, South Africa
Africa's Leading Tourist Board 2019 Kenya Tourism Board
Africa's Leading Travel Agency 2019 Club Travel, South Africa
Africa's Leading Travel Club 2019 Beekman Managed Portfolio
Africa's Leading Travel Management Company 2019 FCM Travel Solutions
Africa's Most Romantic Resort 2019 Anantara Medjumbe Island Resort, Mozambique
Africa's Responsible Tourism Award 2019 Gamewatchers Safaris
theenchanter:
from WTA, 2018.
https://www.worldtravelawards.com/award-africas-leading-business-hotel-2018

Twelve times winner in a row.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:13am On Jun 04, 2019
Yes - they get allocation - and are not allowed to levy taxes - just licenses,fees and levies. Counties also have local authorities. So they are in between Nigeria states and LGA -
theenchanter:
alright.

Much like our local govt functions (the third tier of a federation).

But ur central govt give them funds to execute their functions, right?
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:09am On Jun 04, 2019
Really? Link please.
obaaderemi:
The Abuja Transcorp Hilton: Africa's Leading Business Hotel 2019,2018,2017,2016,2015.
grin Kilode? Na only Transcorp waka come?
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:06am On Jun 04, 2019
Out of around 50 gov functions - we have devolved 17 - including health, agriculture, pre-schools, county roads, etc.

Agriculture, including crop and animal husbandry, livestock sale yards, county abattoirs (slaughterhouses), plant and animal disease control, and fisheries.
County health services, including, in particular – county health facilities and pharmacies, ambulance services, promotion of primary health care, licensing and control of undertakings that sell food to the public, veterinary services (excluding regulation of the profession which is a national government function), cemeteries, funeral parlours and crematoria, and refuse removal, refuse dumps and solid waste disposal.
Control of air pollution, noise pollution, other public nuisances, and outdoor advertising.
Cultural activities, public entertainment and public amenities, including – betting, casinos and other forms of gambling, racing, liquor licensing, cinemas, video shows and hiring, libraries, museums, sports and cultural activities and facilities, and county parks, beaches and recreation facilities.
County transport, including – County roads (Class D, E and Unclassified Roads), street lighting, traffic and parking, public road transport, and ferries and harbours (excluding the regulation of international and national shipping and matters related thereto).
Animal control and welfare, including – licensing of dogs, and facilities for the accommodation, care, and burial of animals.
Trade development and regulation, including – markets, trade licences (excluding regulation of professions), fair trading practices, local tourism, and cooperative societies.
County planning and development, including – statistics, land survey and mapping, boundaries and fencing, housing, and electricity and gas reticulation and energy regulation.
Education – only pre-primary education (ECD), village polytechnics, home craft centres and childcare facilities.
Implementation of specific national government policies on natural resources and environmental conservation, including soil and water conservation, and forestry.
County public works and services, including – stormwater management systems in built-up areas, and water and sanitation services.
Firefighting services and disaster management.
Control of drugs and pornography.
Ensuring and coordinating the participation of communities and locations in governance at the local level and assisting communities and locations to develop the administrative capacity for the effective exercise of the functions and powers and participation in governance at the local level.

theenchanter:
my question.

What exactly are u devolving? Is it about sharing money to d counties rather than make d central control every affair?

What power is currently devolved to ur counties?
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018:
I think it depend on what they are ranking. Kenya has one of leanest forces in Africa. We have about 24,000 well-paid, well disciplined and most proffesional armed forces. Smaller countries like Uganda have 45,000 - South Sudan I think has more. ---- Nigeria has what - 1M soldiers - all poorly paid - like the Ethiopia.

Kenya military has always done it's job well, has not overthrown civilian rule and we don't have Boko Haram internally creating refugees like Nigeria.

The indisputable fact is kenya has lean force with one of largest budget in sub-sahara Africa.

obaaderemi:
My dear Kikuyu1, this is what matters:

grin Please explain why Sudan is ranked ahead of your well paid sophisticated army.How come about?
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 9:58am On Jun 04, 2019
That is key difference btw federalism and devolution (the path we choose). US is federal republic like Nigeria. Germany has devolved power. That is model kenyan borrowed. Counties (rather than states) have limited powers. They cannot for example impose sharia law. In kenya counties have local assemblies - who passes what can essentiallys are by-laws.
theenchanter:
how do u hope to devolve power to ur counties without devolving judiciary and county's parliament?

Devolving power is far beyond giving money to counties.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 8:36am On Jun 04, 2019
Kenya has two serious problems it need to slowly confront - ethnicity and corruption - we would be Nigeria sibling if we were as dumb as they are - but thankfully Kenyans are generally smarter. The more we become democratic - the more ethnic and corrupt we have become.

Suffice to say democracy tends to accentuate ethnic difference...and also makes the fight against graft difficult because everyone in democracy is presumed innocent till proven guilty and corrupt suspect enjoys all sort of appeals and reviews channel that ultimately delay justice.

I think we have to try avoid political federalism - we can do economic federalism - basically devolve more economic power to 47 counties- but keep the other institutions national. Those talking about 20 or so regional gov I think are just looping back. These issues were debated to death during COE...and we settled on 47 counties that largely mirror our ethnic tapestry. There are few regions that still don't feel happy - and we need to address their concerns - for example Kurias in Migori would be better aligned with Gusiis. Sabaot in Bungoma would be happier in Tranzoia. Those are issues that don't require a new constitution - but boundary reviews.

We should never devolve judiciary, ability of national assembly to make laws, the police and other security arms - and other key national institutions without which we will have Ethiopia kind of ethnic mess or Nigeria kind - sharia, secession and complete economic catharsis as states compete for Oil money rather than generate their own revenues.

tylann:
Cossano come and learn from this lady here
For goodness sake stop comparing Kenya to European countries
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 8:13pm On Jun 03, 2019
Most kenya civil servants get paid on 15th - 2 weeks before end of month - by overzealous banks
tylann:
.
Where have Kenya civil servants not been paid
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:17pm On Jun 03, 2019
This is beyond your paygrade. Way above.
theenchanter:
U can keep deceiving urselve. Ur debt-to-gdp is 54%, how much more ur tax? undecided
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 6:54pm On Jun 03, 2019
Kenya debt servicing is around 30% to tax - and less to total revenues.
theenchanter:
Dude, urs is worse.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2019-05-02-rotich-61-per-cent-of-your-tax-will-go-to-debt-repayment-from-july/
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 6:40pm On Jun 03, 2019
There is no end in sight. It appears the problem will continue forever...systemic, structural and historical mess...in Nigeria power sector....even the new projects like Mambila or Gas...are not coming online soon.

Maybe they hand the country over to Dangote. Surely he can fix their electricity problem.

SUFFERInSMILIIN:
On the other hand Nigeria's electricity is becoming more like merry-go-round. at one point the electricity situation in Nigeria was just like a seesaw but now things have really degraded. Igniter shortage of gas in Nigeria what is next
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 6:39pm On Jun 03, 2019
While they are busy taking about Kenya very SUSTAINABLE DEBT - Kenya never ever had a debt crisis before - and cannot start having one now.

Read what is going down...Nigeria

Their debt service eats up 60% of their government revenue and is rising according to the IMF,” says Andrew Roche, managing partner at Finexem in Paris. “If they do not raise revenue, and if they can’t continue borrowing for whatever reason, then we are looking at a potential default or at least a period of dried up financing for Nigeria.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 6:34pm On Jun 03, 2019
Pretty much summarize what we have been trying to ramp through the obtuse Nigerians here.

The cooked GDP can no longer hold..

Nigeria’s GDP contracted 13.8% in the first quarter, wiping out last year’s economic gains

kikuyu1:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2019/05/28/nigeria-has-become-africas-money-losing-machine/#8cb38f777ac3

Auwuuwuuu! All we've been saying on Revenue/GDP,harassment of multinationals like MTN,dire power generation and general full spectrum Federal govt apathy and incompetence is now revealed!
Rvp2018 see this!
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 6:23pm On Jun 03, 2019
How is it working when nearly 20 Northern States have adopted Sharia law - without regard to christian Nigerians in those states - and Southern States are actively pursuing secession. How is it working when nothing in Nigeria works - not even electricity- the politics is dysfunctional - poverty is increasing at alarming rate - everyone is looking at Abuja for oil money - and there are nearly 10M internally displaced Nigerian thanks to religious and secretariat violences.

theenchanter:
federalism is working in nigeria, i dont know Kenya's formation to ascertain it's workability. All power are not yet devolved to d nigerian states, but the necessary ones are devolved.. police has just been approved to be devolved to states. Education, health, water resources, transport within d border of states are among d devolved power.... with complement from d FG.

Nigeria has 3 tiers of gov and Federalism has nothing to do with ethnicity.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 6:15pm On Jun 03, 2019
The formation of a nation takes centuries. Kenya right now is essentially a state and has long way to get to a nation. The tribes are more like Nations. Accepting tribal nations and going for federalism may permanently endanger nation-building (kenya) and yet denying it will also lead to conflicts and grievances. The middle ground is devolution. The counties we have work well....we just need to increase funding and functions. Federalism is combination of states to form a nation. That might be a slippery slope because counties will basically have nearly all the power of nation (own police, judiciary, name it) including the power to secede like Ethiopia.

I think more devolution along the current counties is all we need. Obviously this ought not be rushed. We need to give it another generation (15-20yrs) - counties are struggling with health - we cannot pad more function before building capacity.

I think attempt to change the constitution this soon is disingenuous and ought to be rejected. We just got new constitution in 2010. That is just about 9yrs!

cossano:
then why did kenyans propose the formation of 14 states under the BOMAS draft largely based on tribal lines? do you know that that was the most inclusive constitution making process on earth? only to be torpedoed by the criminal state!
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 6:11pm On Jun 03, 2019
How is Nigeria debt servicing like...debt to tax....your tax to gdp is the worse in the world...I think 6%...while Kenya averages 18%.
samorobo:
Shut up he borrowed to pay last year not this year.
Our debt to gdp is just 18% while yours is about 80%.
Obaderemi pls provide us post where their civil servants have not been paid
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 4:30pm On Jun 03, 2019
From about 15% electricity access few years ago - Kenya races to universal electricity access.
World Bank report says country among the top in expanding reach for its citizens.
At over 75 percent access currently (63.8 percent by 2017), the country’s rate was almost triple Uganda’s 22 percent and almost double Tanzania’s 32.8 percent and Rwanda’s 34.1 percent.
Kenya, which aims to achieve a universal access to electricity by 2022, had also an impressive rate of expanding reach compared to its neighbours.

https://www.nation.co.ke/business/Kenya-tops-East-Africa-in-access-to-mains-electricity/996-5142192-i9o2mnz/index.html
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:02pm On Jun 01, 2019
Now that is how to use oil billions. Nigeria would be like Algeria if they had used their natural resources well. Kenya has to bootstrap resources to build infrastructure. Definitely we cannot afford 11B dollar road now.
Algerian1:
No you are not getting the concept .

algerian high way A1 for exemple. 1216 km long from est tunisia to west morocco cost more than 13 billions dollars , 11 millions per km .

and i have two civil engeneer in my family the cost is depending more on the sol quality , the topography and bridges, tunnel ect ... A road in a flat region will cost less than in moutains region .
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 12:50pm On Jun 01, 2019
Algerian - KENHA is for major highways - we have KURA and KERRA for urban and rural roads. Kenya now has about 20,000kms of paved roads. We have a long way to get to Algeria level - but generally even non-paved roads are gravelled and motoroable. I don't doubt Algerian roads but Nigeria roads are mostly broken down...and their data unreliable.
Algerian1:
Sure according to your ranking cap verde with 1,650 km network road with only 36% is asphalted have more highways and paved roads than algeria wink

Any way .

From kenya national highway autority source , kenya have 63,575 km classified roads with only 9,273 kilometres of paved roads . (link : http://www.kenha.co.ke/index.php/road-network


Algeria have 133 741 km of classified roads with 106 992 km paved' roads source algerian ministry of transport

And from this source the Director-General, Infrastructure Concession Regulatory Commission (ICRC), http://www.icrc.gov.ng/135000km-road-network-nigeria-un-tarred-icrc/ 2017 ,
Nigeria has about 195,000 km road network out of which a proportion of about 32,000 km are federal roads while 31,000km are state roads. Out of this, only about 60,000km are paved
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 12:05pm On Jun 01, 2019
Yes the CBC - new curriculum - with digital devices - will help bridge the divide. We are spending a lot on basic education and it will repay. I hope gov really keep momentum on TIVET - We are doing well at university level (enrollment now at 500K) - but we need to have TIVET(vocational colleges) enrolling 3m plus. That is where the problem is now - majority of kids finishing high school and if they don't make it to university - just stick around villages..and end up as useless as those who don't go.
kikuyu1:
Thanks for those facts,even if to only temporarily reduce schoolgirls screaming about "swag, class' and other girly issues.
Tbh,we have room for improvement.

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