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Okay that huge progress.

jl115:
yes that's for the industry, we have a number of assembly plants, however the specific models I mentioned are almost entirely manufactured in SA

2017. It's IFC. Now what has happened since then to improve local content?

AfriqueDuZuid:
How old is your article?

Most people buying motor bikes and bicycles are in developed world - where highways are giving way to bicycle lanes.

Just30:
Rant of an ignoramus.... Motorcycles are left for poor people from bankrupt nations like Kenya who have no option but

Kenya is too poor such that it has to rely on such backwardness.

If everyone where to use motorcycle, I'm not sure you'll have a place to step

How much is local component? Seem the industry on average at 30%.

The auto industry—South Africa’s largest manufacturing sector—is a major employer at its assembly plants, and through suppliers of goods and services required by global vehicle manufacturers. Yet today local content accounts on average for about one-third of each vehicle produced in South Africa. IFC estimates that raising that share of local content to 45 percent could inject $4 billion into the local economy and support 80,000 more jobs over the next three years.
https://pressroom.ifc.org/all/pages/PressDetail.aspx?ID=16072

jl115:
BMW X3 , Ford Ranger, Ford Everest, Mercedes C - class, Toyota Hilux, Toyota Fortuner, Toyota Corolla, Toyota Quantum, VW Polo, VW Polo vivo, VW Polo gti, Izusu Dmax, Nissan Np300, Mahindra pickup

And no they ain't assembly plants, we got them to

The future is actually motorcyle - Veitnam export 12B dollars worth of them. I hope we focus there and EV. For employment - we need heavy steel industry.

So I would say 1) spare parts 2) motor cycles 3) EV for cars & buses and 4) heavy passenger and goods vehicles. We have established the foundation for all these - we just need accelerate the next 5yrs.

Bankrupt Ghana - pay debt first. Nobody will invest in a bankrupt country.

Just30:
Ghana has already taken off... You're still dealing with assembling motorbikes

Focus on that infancy

Those are cheap chinese imports.
Kenya manufacture very high quality flatbeds, tipper, topper and all of those type that are used in whole of eastern africa region.
Bhachu is gold standard in the region

Just30:
Flatbeds and etc

Like I said you have infant industry - kenya is ready to take off. You need like 20yrs.

Just30:
many of the other assemblers I didn't mention

They are banned from this year though I think some folks went to court. Buses and Trucks can no longer be imported as used.

“Kebs wishes to inform all stakeholders and the general public that effective July 1, 2022, all used passenger minibuses, midibuses, large buses, single articulated and bi-articulated business and double-decker buses shall not be allowed for importation into the country,” said Kebs adding that the move comes after the ...

This shot in the arm of assemblers - they are going to get huge chunk of the market.

And now that we got our own steel manufacturing plant - though quality still an issue I hear - we might be on start.

We import almost 600M dollars worth of steel from South Africa - the major import from them - but with Devki steel turning iron ore to steel billet we are making baby steps.

NTSA:
It's like the government makes the importation of buses into the country expensive thus promoting local assembly.

They cannot even make nuts and bolts.

AfriqueDuZuid:
I hope he sees that installed capacity is not what's actually produced

If you use the creativity and energy on your funerals - to make even a bicycle - maybe in 30yrs - you will come near kenya MV industry.

23 Sept 2022 — NAIROBI, Kenya, Sep 23 – Kenyan-made exide batteries worth Sh9.3million landed in the Port of Tema, Ghana on Friday marking the country's ...

Just30:
Most of our assemblers are doing CKD and are mostly for the Ghanaian market until they are done with their expansion to a combine utilisation capacity of 60,000 as both local and export demand keep increasing

Matatu industry that convert this to that.

There are numerous body fabricators who are at the core of the matatu creativity in the PSV sector. They come up with the intricate designs that entrepreneurs in the sector pay additional cost

When it come to MV spares - kenya manufacture thing like oil filters and bla bla for like 10 countries all the way down to Zambia.

Batteries recently landed in Ghana

Kenya has very many building blocks to build a successful MV industry.

Few more things

We started banning any vehicle longer than 7 feet from being imported as second hand. Most used spare parts are already banned in kenya.

Kenya MV just need to finally ban used cars - and vroom to 150,000 cars and a million motor cyles.

Kenya vibrant MV industry start from body building for buses, truck, trailers, motor cycles, spare parts before we even get CKD and FBU - and most are export to the Eastern Africa region.

Try compare Ghana with Uganda.

Not kenya.

Just30:
Kenya has never had .... I won't call 3,000 production and 5,000 new cars purchased a vibrant MV industry

From the 60s to the 80s or 90s, almost 90% of vehicles used in Ghana assemble here.

Yes I thought I remember something like that.

AfriqueDuZuid:
SA was passed 600k before covid disturbed

Unlike your almost alway bankrupt then military dictatorship kenya has always had vibrant MV industry - the whole shebang.

Just30:
1980 is a far cry away from the 1960s

Kenya has never stopped assembling cars. That is why we have one of SSA matured industries.

In fact in 1980s - we took a bold step - and build our own car - but it died. The Numerical Complex plant still remain one of largest in kenya

Moi had a vision for kenya car - Nyayo car - inspired by Singapore Proton in 1975.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=086qdyNtHWo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz-i5jm2wFA

Just30:
neither has Kenya gotten there yet.... Infact we started assembling cars before your country could even grow the capacity

Ghana remains above you in production... Even your VW produced just 28 cars for last year

Yes Morroco then South Africa. Look RSA stuck at 250-300k while climbing to 0.5M cars.

Obaaderemi2:
If it's car assembly you guys are talking about, I think Morroco leads others follow.

Credible link as always settle debate. Something yo've NEVER managed to do.

Just30:
cars

Motor Vehicles or cars?

Just30:
as usual, drag everyone into Kenya misery of default and bankruptcy
Wasn't registered cars in Kenya last year just a little over 100,000…?
Ghana did 140,000 in 5 months

How has it helped Nigeria except spawn 3 exchange rates - and generated poverty at industrial scale last seen in China 1950s.

Manage the economy well.

If you want to discourage import - it enough to levy import duties.

Leave forex controls - it never end well.

Relax - allow forex to flow in and flow out. The moment you panick and try to close the outflow - you're dead.

Trick is simple - remove forex restrictions - dont panick - and everything will work out - there will be enough forex for even someone who want to import total unneccesary stuff

vaxx:
what is this one saying ? Even in Nigeria , there is a tall list of commodity you can get dollar support for . At least rice , chicken and cooking oil is one example you can never get a forex for?

Ghana will also borrowed from that rigid system that protect naira for sometimes . We are not even putting a stop , you can import but go and look for your forex elsewhere .

Very infant.

In SSA

South Africa.
Nigeria.
Kenya
Zimbwabwe

In Africa - throw Morroco, Algeria and Egypt

Ghana you are still an infant

Just30:
I'm sure you can read

Put a credible link - otherwise your words are not worthy a warm spit of saliva from Nana Akufo who bankrupted Ghana

vaxx:
it is a fact I throw at your eyes , yours is to discredit it. We used more cars per head than you... A simple google will have exposed this fact . But you love blind argument .

You're havean infant MV industry.

Just30:
Yet Neoplan before being shut down had produced 4,000 plus high duty hard body buses.

VW hit it 5,000 production mark or close to it which has led them to increase their capacity to 25,000 in a second phase.

Leading Nissan to immediately set up at 31,000 production facility
Pejo a 4,500 facility

30,000 plus new cars registered is good enough for manufacturers to be attracted

You're not longer distinguishable from the JustMad.

vaxx:
random nonsense. Do you make sense ....am I comparing Ghana automobile industry against that of south africa ? Am only letting him know whatever that is happening in south africa , we are also doing it here . That's is simple , it might not be as big as southy but definitely we are doing it.

But as for kenya , Ghana is actually way ahead. At least by average used , Ghanaian used more cars than Kenya

Unfortunately, this kind of thinking extend all the way to upper echelon of ghana.
That is why they raided their last forex - and attempt to defended the Cedis.
Now their coffers are empty of forex.

We are going for classic default in mid-January.

IMF just has to permanently relocate to help them - they cant.

popizaino:
Yes and guess how it recover? BoG made dollar unavailable for some importers so that they can look inward into local productions according to him ....All this happened under two weeks.

Again dont embrass yourself; South Africa dont even manufacture cars;
Ghana you should start assembling motor bikes first.
Then try to assemble cars.
It will be some years before you manufacture car.
Leave Kanatraka nonsense.

Nissan established assembly plant this year - they havent assembled anything yet.

Installed capacity is just installed capacity

vaxx:
you aren't an obtuse slowpoke that's need to be feed , just go and check online . Even though some of the cars company are operating less than their capacity for now.

For example , nissan is currently manufacturing navara truck .

Now do same with others company like sinotruck, Toyota etc.

Maybe. It plausible Nigeria has car production industry. Not the nonsense like Innosen. But I highly doubt. kenya at least has nascent car industry that even export to the region. Real cars. Not badged chinese crap by Innosen or Kantarka.

It goes without saying that almost all buses, truck, trailers in east africa are built in kenya.

AfriqueDuZuid:
Nigeria produce more

They can't even build bodies for buses or trailer for trucks - leave alone assemble CKD or do FBU. Their car production industry is at infancy - most of them were launched last year or this year.

AfriqueDuZuid:
So in simple terms you don't know how much cars are produced in Ghana annualy

If you don't know the was no way you will know the value of your automative sector,

Poor Ghana - such kind of debate is way above your country level of development. Try to manufacture chocolate bars.

Just30:
lies ... Ava only produce 3,000 on a good year
And VW do 28

Sold new cars in Kenya was 5,133 for 2021

When you meet your fellow ignoramus you can tell those lies to them

Kenya produces more than 30,000 cars - mostly AVA(multi-brand assembler), ISUZU and Toyotas.
Half - 15,000 are sold in kenya - again mostly commercial vehicles.
Kenya export the rest to Uganda, TZ, and even India I think

Just30:
3,000 per good year and VW 28

Maybe if you count motor cycles as vehicles.

vaxx:
You should shut up , By car used , Ghanaian used more cars than you. Either is production or purchased . It is important to know Ghana used more cars than you. For the production , we are getting a head start . Giant cars company are opening assembly plant.. it is smarter of time .


Stop manufacturing number from your asses instead of your head

You're nowhere in new cars - leave alone car assembly.

Kenya north of Limpopo River and south of Sahara I think has largest functional car production industry.

Maybe Nigeria can measure up but really doubt

vaxx:
I don't dwell on abstract like you . I dwell on real number ..