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Because you say or because youre a god. Your IQ sound at least about 80-90 point - above demented. Engage me. Make me understand

NTSA:
Nothing like that will happen.

That exactly what kibaki and Martha said in 2007 - unfortunately 0.6m people lives had turned upside down - forever. Dont get into stuff youre ignorant about. Those people if they were not raped or injured have lifetime traumas.

I advice you to listen to people like me.

I was brought up supporting Kibaki and DP - at our greatest risk.

NTSA:
I don't need any explanation am just amazed by the war and tribal rhetoric you are peddling.

NTSA. I am waiting, tell me champ .

Of course you're the typical LOW IQ morons we have to deal with.

Now let me help break it down for you.

Come on very clearly. This online forum. You dont know me. I dont know me.
Let build scenarios. Best case. Worst case. Medium case.
When I was 24yrs I developed Kenya contingency plan and fund. It was suppose to be 2 percent of the budget.
And dont start to cry when I break it down for you.
Tell me exactly what you want clarified.
I will break it down to you into simplest nuggets.

NTSA:
What's up with this war and tribal rhetoric?
Who will kalenjins be fighting ? the govt?

As far as am concerned Parliamentary proceedings will still continue,
Senate proceedings will go on .
Port and airport operations will continue
Military bases,Airbases ,Tank units artillery units ,GSU camps,Ap Camps NYS camps will still be functional
Prisons will still be functional,
The sea port will still run
People will still fry in and out of Kenya.
Cabinet meetings will still be held.
Business outside Nakuru, Eldoret will still continue
People will still drinking beer etc..
You are just suffering from delusion of grandeur.

Embrace your luo self; low self esteem slowpoke. Luos were a proud tribe until Odingas happened. In next three months; Luos will be back to being themselves.

Luos produced Tom Mboya. They produced Obama.

Odinga is a big mistake

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He is always half luo half kikuyu half kalenjin - he is street urchin in kenya - a chokora. Definitely a luo - whom odingas have totally wasted - and turn into huge wasteland. Ruto next assignment is to save him. To make him realize that human being is born free.....

ProblemChild1:
Tshma ma bro. What happened to your other moniker

Now to serious stuff . Ruto launches 47 Counties charter. Dr Ndii now addressing the media. This has been most consultative process involving 250 top policy wonks in Kenya.

Dr Ndii - my friends in Nigeria says they impressed by how Ruto team has steered issues based campaign in one of the most tribal ethnic based political space.

William Ruto take the stage. Africa next big thing.
https://www.facebook.com/williamsamoei/videos/498248262105490

https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?ref=search&v=469909874981538

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8_453Hl1M8

You can hear a pin drop as Dr William Ruto - arguably the next Meles Zenawi takes the stage.

The signing process begin for all 48 counties including us in diaspora.

Dr Ruto commit to deliver to all 48 counties - or states in Nigeria or province some commitment

If Uhuru had his way - Nakuru would be a war zone now - but today Ruto combed Nakuru, Laikipia and Nyandarua to heroic crowds amongst the Kikuyus - Uhuru must be wetting himself


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37ln9GGpmuE

War is legitimate outcome if the process become illegitimate. Uhuru has KDF/Police - 100k. Ruto has kalenjin warriors 1million.
As long as Ruto has survived this long - just 60hrs to go - he cannot be beaten now
Uhuru and Raila have had 5yrs to finish Ruto - they have attempted everything - but Ruto has outfoxed, outspent, outthought and now is cruising to victory - whatever you do - even begging online for votes is just waste of time - people are decided.
That is why all those folks including Uhuru have all booked exit flights on 10th August.
All the rigging schemes have fallen apart.
The Lion of Sugoi has prevailed.
I am told now Ruto is using 4 choppers - 3 as decoys - he has 64 more security private security guards.
Ruto is everywhere - has Uhuru and Raila marooned - whatever they plan - Ruto will know it immediately.

Uhuru and his bunch of sissies didnt know they are dealing with a LION...not a hyena like Raila.

StivoH2022:
You're the one who talks about tribalism in bad way, war.

Going by what you've been saying I can tell you know how election were conducted in the 90s....Did you expect anyone else to be declared winner apart from Moi.

I'm telling you Ruto is where Raila has been, the problem with Ruto is that his die-hard supporters are in villages and they can't give the system/deep state any pressure...

We dont need all. Moi use to win with one single Kikuyu vote from Kamotho. He still got 40 percent without single Kikuyu or Luo or name it vote - kenya is big - just learn to navigate it. Please keep these tribal nonsense away and let discuss politics. You cannot win.

Apart from small period btw 2005-2007 - Kalenjin have been in or near power for so many years - there is almost nothing you can do that they have never seen.

This not the usual Raila

StivoH2022:
Ruto followers esp Kales have been made to believe all kikuyu support Ruto...they'll be shocked to death next week

Once Ruto win - we will hive off huge part of Karura forest and Nairobi National Park - and bring so many kalenjin - you'll never feel lonely ever again. But first we have Uhuru's 11,000 acres that we will give Chinese to build 500,000 units - bring kalejin to own units - and avoid living in slums.We should never allow people to live in Slums.

StivoH2022:
First of all I'm not against Kalenjins I'm against Ruto the thief of public property...Kalenjins are my relatives.

The fact that you know all the Kalenjins in your hood is a good evidence that Kales are few and countable....actually if meet a kalenjin in Nairobi I normally talk to them, its like meeting someone speaking swahili in France or Argentina

Raila today went to Kilifi - to find the ground is gone gone. I think he found 200 people waiting for him - he didnt even bother to address them;

This was one of his stronghold. Now it gone. 60hours to go!!!!!!

You guys are really desperate yet you have gov machinery and opposition machinery; Ruto has counter-intelligence that beats NIS.

Just watch how election is won. Not what Raila has been doing for 40yrs - totally blind - as he was rigged out except in 2007 when Ruto assisted him. After this we put Uhuru in jail if he doesnt run to exile - I hear the line waiting to run to exile keep growing by the day.

MzeeMwenyewe1:
It's not too late to vote baba.

NTSA:
In as much as am rooting for Ruto to win this kind of tribal bigotry is too much and uncalled for

Check who started..we kalenjin are not in Kenya by invitation..we are original setllers with somalis

Kalenjin are everywhere - you just dont see us - because we are experts in disguise you see us; you dont see us - in my home in Nairobi - we are the majority - out of 20 odd hse in our court - Kalenjin are 7 families, three are kikuyus, three luhyas, 2 kambas, one coastarian, one borana, one embu, two kisii, one Luo (built a small kindergaten). Kalenjin like cluster together - so even those 7 families we are a ring...all my immediate neighberbours are all kalenjin

As for Langata - that Ruto plotted for since 2007 - Kalenjin have been registering in Karen - we missed it by whisker in 2013 - and got it 2017 - I dont see how the comedian can beat Generali.

Imagine next Tuesday your President Kalenjin; Nairobi Governor Kalenjin; 10 other governors or deputy governos Kalenjin; then 55 mps !! Kalenjin are what nearly 7 million people by Now. 3rd largest tribe and you cannot see them. Nearly every watchman I see nowadays is a Kalenjin.

You better get off this tribal nonsense and focus on KENYA.

StivoH2022:
I've lived in Nairobi for about 12years, I know every corner of the city
Kalenjins in Nairobi are as few as Maasai in Eldoret...that's why if you want to annoy Sakaja call him a kalenjin in public
The other one MP was lucky he got a Jubilee party Ticket which made him win....I can bet he will lose is very early in the morning like one hour after the polling station open.

You'll find Kalenjin in a place called Tetrapack slums near Mukuru Kwa Reuben....I always see them trek to Donholm

Watch over weak kneed khoisans. What are they gonna steal - your honey? or your hunt.

jl115:
the way you talk i know for a fact you would wimp out when the going gets tough and yes i am trained actually, since im part of our farm watch proto team, so unlike you with your twigs ive actually gone through proper training.

Apart from hunting squirrels have you gone to war? At least I have stayed in forest and been trained. I have been tortured for almost a month until I felt no pain anymore. I have raided in sport kind of way other Kalenjin trainees at the middle of the night. I can pretty much make any traditional weapons.

So in that sense I am better than you. You just kill squirrels like a small boy in our places. We are warriors.

jl115:
guys like rvp20182 who talk about war like its some video game are always the first that flee

You sound like one.

MzeeMwenyewe1:
The mistake you make is to think am Luo, My name is Kanyi and we are from NYERI.

Pastoralist have inbred disdain for manual labour or working hard or doing back breaking work. Kalenjin before British only job was to go to war, to raid, to steal cattle, from when he was 16-18yrs until he retires in 35yrs - and marries.

Kalenjin only way to make money or grow wealth was to become a cattle raider or thief - Kalenjin were one most accomplished cattle raiders - walking 300kms to steal cattle.

There was no other legitimate way to make money. British tried to convert Kalenjin to farming and eventually suceeded. They also took cattle raiding into athletics competition - and Kalenjin dominate althetics.

This disdain for manual labour you'll see in Arabs, Somalis, Northern Africa tribes that keep a lot of cattle. It's part of the cattle complex. You can say they are lazy or they just hate manual work seeing it as below their dignity.

This is why British imported Luos, Luhyas, Kikuyus and others to rift valley to work on their farms.

Therefore dont expect Kalenjin to work his arse off. If they cannot find a decent job that doesnt involve a lot of sweating - they will go back and drink alcohol in their village.

StivoH2022:
Kalenjins fear other tribes esp Kikuyus they think they're too smart for them that's why they become parochial when they go out of their village.
..they also don't like to think and work smart, if a Kalenjin doesn't get employed he'd rather stay with his mother in the village forever with their poverty

When my cousins from that side come to visit me in Nairobi they behave as if they're carrying a million bob in their pocket and muggers have noticed...very insecure

Very funny
Start with TEA - kenya highest foreign earn- Kalenjin exclude the large plantation - we produce like 40% of all the tea by volume.
In Kericho-Bomet-Nandi alone - I can count about 100 tea factories - owned by farmers and private Kalenjin.
Go to Maize,
Go to Dairy
....name anything agriculture in kenya.
Only Kikuyus can speak - the rest of Kenyans - PLEASE get a grip of yourselves.

MzeeMwenyewe1:
Kalenjins are the laziest tribe in Kenya, apart from being subsistence farmers they have zero economic impact to the GDP

He is half-luhya anyway . His grandfather was one first mps of Mt elgon. I know his father - he owns a bar in Landmawe. Kalenjin for 25yrs of Moi were privelleged - mostly hired to civil services - and add to fact that we have large arable land - so it's unlikely you'll see us in slums.

Also by our nature - after we have gone through the torture of circumscion and military training - we become reserved, manly and do our things silently. We are also very insular and we only mostly keep company of our own. We are not going to make friends with you unless there is no kalenjin near us.

We are many - just silently - going through our life - which is why most Kenyans will rather vote Ruto a kalenjin - with our humility - than you proud and loud Luos.

We can assure you - even with Ruto as PORK - you wont see us in your face. Unless when you get into the wrong - the police officer will likely be a kalenjin.

MzeeMwenyewe1:
Because he hides his name Kosgei like a plague. Before the fiasco about his degree I always thought he was luhya. In my long span of life I only know 5 kalenjins personally.

Long story short. Sabaot are just mere 100K people. Just one const, not even fully legit kalenjin, like Nandi-Kipsigis, but still kick GSU and APs until they called KDF. Those very very small group of kalenjin.

Pokot seem KDF has given up. British gave up on Pokot. Kenyatta and Moi launched countless operations. Kibaki and Uhuru. They gave up.

Kalenjin are dogs of war. They are like Tigrayans, Somalians, Afganis, Nuers, etc.

And pokot are not even toughest of kalenjin - the NANDIS are. Most of pokot raider are former Nandis. After 15yrs of war with British - Nandis bailed out - to Kispigis (my home area), Uganda, Tanzania, Luhya, and some to West Pokot. The British after war had placed heavy fines as part of war repatriation in cattle, land and labour.

Dont wake the monster. Dont arm the monster. That I hope and pray Ruto doesnt do it. He might be forced to do it if Kalenjin cannot fight Kikuyus or Luos - but decide to fight state.

BUt generally the risk of this happening now is very low. Uhuru has pretty much given up on playing dirty. He knows the monster or has been reminded not play dangerous games.


Just basic reading of how savages armed with bows & arrows resisted British machine guns for 15yrs should be complusory reading..other African didnt mount even a week of resistance.

Nandi Resistance to British Rule, 1890-1906, by A. T. Matson. East African
Publishing House, 1972. 391 pp. 40 shs. Paperback.
The Nandi resistance to British rule has become something of a legend in Kenya.
The ability of spear-wielding Nandi to resist the well-armed British army for ten
years was a remarkable achievement. It is fitting, therefore, that a study of this
resistance has been undertaken by such a conscientious author

Gama12:
If you ask me why sabaot ( sub- tribe of kalenjin) is weird: They formed an SLDF to resist government attempts to evict squatters in the Chepyuk. But instead of focusing with their agenda, that guerrilla militia went waay ahead and start gang raping, killing, and stealing from their own. This group had access to a variety of weapons uncommon for criminal groups in Kenya including machine guns, hand grenades and rocket-propelled grenades along with the usual AK-47s and G3 rifles which were donated by former police officers. One reason why it took few second by KDF to wipe all the guerilla miliatia out, was because they had access to jungle combat fatigues commonly seen with the Kenya Police which made it hard for KDF to differentiate them from police.


SLDF was considered well trained due to a number of former police and military officers having been linked in secretly training SLDF fighters in the Mount Elgon forests.

That should not be the reason for infiltrating ego into Kalenjins. One thing for sure is that they used to be pro- war, now they aren't. They roam around with Bitcoin and crypto robbing people and cooking endless stories. ( for the majority). So, You can't say less than 11% unarmed kalenjin population can take Kenya into a halt mode.( tatterdemalion state).

APs have the power to render the kalenjin militia unselss and within a slip of second.

StivoH2022:
My dad is Kipsigis originally from Bomet but brought up in Lessos Nandi County....Mother from Tigoni Kiambu County.
Actually the kipsigis are the richest and more civilised.

I grew up in Uasin Gishu and Nakuru Counties, you see Kales owning a 10acre land but living 8²m thatched mud house, six indigenous malnourished cows that give him 1cup of milk per day.
....theres very high rural poverty there than can't be compared with majority of other Counties all because of culture and laziness.
...apart from Nandi Hills where there's tea,what else comes from Nandi and Keiyo that has impact on other parts Kenya?

kalenjin are not ostentatious people.. poverty you see in slums and in out migration to provide labour...this still rare in kalenjin land because commercial farming still make enough money to sustain them.The rest of Kenya it's a quarter of an acre per person..not enough to live on without selling your labour .The maize,wheat,barley, potatoes you feed on come from where exactly if not kalenjin land mostly...even in tranzoia luhya live in plots while kalenjin own big farms

obaaderemi:
What is really wrong with Africa?
Why is it easy for you to consider voting in old spent politicians who are not in tune with the times against younger and more savvy politicians?

We don't have the luxury of putting in power people like sleepy Joe in this part of the world.
No wonder Africa is a mess.

In total agreement

68816419:
@bold , Can you kindly clarify what you mean when you state that "he does not want monopoly"? Are you indicating that Raila might be detained and imprisoned by if para-venture Ruto wins the elections? Why won't Uhuru want to share power with Ruto?

Manze how did you calculate 57 percent when you're totally ignorant. Ruto n Uhuru came together in 2013 in 50-50 coalition gov btw their two parties.The deal unlike others in Kenya was respected and gov was very cohesive they even decided to merge their parties into one.2017 they win 2nd term.This was final term for uhuru and Ruto would run in 2022.Then things started going south.. uhuru reneges on the deal ...so knowing he can't be able to govern with divided party..Uhuru approaches Raila..for informal power deal.. basically protect me against Ruto then 2022 I back you

jl115:
did you post that photo to intimidate people?.... Because that must be one of the most unintimidating things I've ever seen

Your hunting rifle can only intimidate squirrel and Khoisan...the photo was to show millions of basic trained warriors that can easily be upgraded to modern force in few weeks

NTSA:
Spontaneous localized planned or unplanned war will only affect the non-natives after which they will all vacate .The rest of Kenya outside kalenjin areas would still be solid. And like I said it would morph into a localized guerilla insurgency like the shifta or the mau mau.
Seccesation wouldn’t happen even if the insurgency continued for the next 10yrs.

Will you vacate Kenya because kalenjin is huge front that will be pushing in all directions... Kenya economy will collapse in a month..western will cut from eastern..this is not tigray in corner or Somali in the corner..this kalenjin at the center of Kenya with access to four countries .You will negotiate before a week end.Trust me you don't want to wake that monster and worse make conflict btw the kalenjin and state .

Thankful the cowards have booked their exit flights.Uhuru heading to Seychelles where he has bought an island and his other guys will join Nancy Gitau in Australia. They messed with wrong guy and Kenyatta have met their Waterloo.By December their trillion in assets will have been nationalized.The Hustler Nation Intelligence Bureau ( HNIB) agents are verifying reports that:

1. The La Murder PS - has booked a ticket to Melbourne, Australia together with DCI Kinoti.

2. The Ticket is dated 10th August, 2022.

3. The La Murder PS is already engaged in searching for a Lecturer Gig in Australia. University of Melbourne is one of the places he has applied and gotten a response.

4. Deep State internal Polls show that William Ruto is winning with 55.4%

5. That the La Murder PS has already secured a Furnished Apartment in Melbourne.

6. A certain VOYAGER has reportedly bought an Island in Seychelles.

7. Deep State has given up on the elections and is now focusing on suppressing turn-out for the General Elections across the Country.

8. The suppression in both Raila and Ruto stronghold is aimed at ensuring there is no straight winner on 9.8.2022.

9. Chiefs through the C-30 are being told to ensure that there is suppressed turn-out using all methods including buying and holding IDs.

Project C-30 also involves using goons to cause fracas at polling Stations.

Use of Violence is also part of the project.

10. President Uhuru attempted to bring together Obure, Ongeri, Arati and Manson Nyamweya. After many hours, Uhuru failed yesterday to secure a Joint ticket. They accused the President of financing Simba Arati through Fred Matiangi.

11. With Deep State reporting a William Ruto outright win. Sources close to President Uhuru tell HNIB agents that he is considering skipping the Inauguration Ceremony.

It is so DECLASSIFIED!

AskiaHarem:
[url] https://www.reuters.com/article/sidian-m-a-access-bank/kenyas-centum-to-sell-sidian-bank-stake-to-nigerias-access-bank-idUSKBN2NO1R7 [/url]

Nigerian Banks are continuing to buy out Kenyan as well as many other Banks from around the Africa. This will be Nigeria’s Access Banks second takeover of a Kenyan Bank since there purchase of Kenyans Transitional Bank back in 2020. Access Bank is one of many Nigerian banks buying up the scene in Kenya.

Access Bank is set to acquire Kenyan Sidian Bank by buying out the entire stake of Centum Investment in the bank for $36.7 million (Ksh 4.3 billion). When the deal goes through, this will be the Nigerian bank’s second acquisition in the Kenyan market.

NAIROBI (Reuters) - Kenya’s Centum Investment Co. Plc said on Tuesday it had agreed to sell its 83.4% stake in Kenya’s Sidian Bank to Nigeria’s Access Bank for 4.3 billion shillings ($36.8 million).

The Nigerian lender has closed several buyout deals in Africa recently, including the acquisition of South Africa’s Grobank and loss-making Cavmont Bank from the Zambian arm of Namibian financial services group Capricorn.

Dumb move buying loss making banks in a very competitive market like Kenya.Meanwhile DRC with 100m people and Ethiopia with same...that size of Nigeria are opening up.

Obiano13:
You are all of the following simultaneously, immature, a very foolish man, very deluded, sore loser, jingoistic, suffering from an extreme case of egocentric bias, and very primitive. Hard to believe you are the same person a few weeks ago. My fren you have allowed tribal passions to take over and get rid of all the sophistication of education, reason, and cloud your perception of reality. Get off your high horse and smell the coffee! Whether Ruto loses fairly or not you will do nothing! Its a question of how he loses not if. Stop reasoning like a child. Kikuyus would NEVER join you in your murderuous rampage for two reasons. 1, they hate violence due their business interests 2, they have nothing to lose, both running mates are Kyuks. You are alone because no one else in the country will join you. You chose your bed so must you lie on it. OPPOSITION FOR THE NEXT 10-15 YEARS. You wont even manage to force a handshake like Luos. Your temper tantrums will be met with the full force of state power, your pre-colonial exploits notwithstanding.

At least unlike 2007 you won't come crying that you're suprised.I always try to see situation as is.I have moved my family out of Kenya because I know the beast that uhuru is waking.You don't.Next minute you will all be crying.Kalenjin don't need any support..in 1992 they kicked all tribes except for Maasai.Once kalenjin are united and have a just cause you're dead.

StivoH2022:
This will be the reality next week

Next week not far .... I see last opinion poll by Ruto sworn enemies Chesires and Mois...first victim of Ruto revolution in kalenjin land a decade plus ago... Africa radio group owned by Kittony son and Raila friend the Ghanian Patrick quacko has Ruto leading 45 versus 44.. undecided 9 percent..those are Ruto figures that they are hidding as undecided. Ruto will win by minimum 55 percent despite last-minute shenanigans to incite violence and panic in riftvalley

Obiano13:
My fren you need to take a break. You responded within a min and it's 10 am. Find sth to do with your life. It's unhealthy unhealthy you. The election is lost, your man is crying every day. Most Kenya kwisha goons have accepted.

We shall see in 9 days .You just lost Mombasa governship after Sonko defection.Nairobi is gone. Kenya kwanza looks set to have 30 governors and Azimio 17 with odm getting 8... while Uda will get 25!