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BananaBender: A hungry man is an angry man. Sagamite ask me nicely


Go Google more African American stereotypes so you can have new materials. You're boring me.

I don't need to google what an ebonic-speaking Fisk graduate is.

They must be very hungry in that university then?

NairaMinted: Pretty much sums it up

That is one of the few Jews saying it as it is.

4Play: I am always bemused by discussions about the Israel/Palestinian situation which frequently dovetail into a simplistic narrative, viz, the Jews have taken Palestinian land and this is unfair. If by taking land, we are referring to settlements in the West Bank, this is a valid point to debate but stating that the establishment of the state of Israel is unfair is a pointless debate. It is pointless because Israel is irreversible, a fact on the ground, and a failure to accept this does no one any good, particularly the Palestinians.

That is a valid point.

That said, those that like saying the Muslims started it, need to be educated.

Being refugees for over 60 years in countries you end up being second class citizens is enough to cause anger.

Then for the people that displaced you to continue taking more land, lock your people in a big jail and then kill some of you at will all in the name that they believe some moooron told them God gave them a land and the World powers play double standards would make anyone want to kill back.

On the other hand, Jews who have been killed by everybody for years and who were about to be slaughtered again by these people that have slaughtered them for years, but then they managed to turn the tables, would care less if these people are dying. They already have a siege mentality and their local media is all about "the world hates us and we are isolated on our own despite our years of suffering".

4Play: It's as if because the state of Israel was established ''unfairly'' in 1948, 3 Jews can be kidnapped and killed today without the perpetrators or their protectors being punished. Where would this line of reasoning lead us, perhaps Native Americans in the US can attack whites, blacks and latinos because these people are effectively trespassers on their land. If you think of it, this line of reasoning is often used by racists in Europe to justify their attacks on foreigners.

I am in support of the killers of the Jews being punished but I am also aware that the Jews kill Palestinians at will without anyone being punished, only shouts by the likes of Mark Regev of "We will conduct a thorough investigation". So I can spot a huge hypocrisy.

A more apt analogy is Apartheid white South Africans complaining that black fighters killed whites and they go out to kill many blacks because they think they need to punish someone. This is after years of them killing blacks at will without anyone being punished.

Those that think their lives are worth more than others by virtue of their religion/nationality/race will not get my backing.

all4naija: The question remains. Why aren't the names of those places Arabic?

What did you just post? Those other religions originally came from Judaism, the religion of the Jews. So, both Christianity and Islam are linked to the Jewish book(Torah).

The came from the same line, they did not come from Judaism otherwise they would be denomination of Judaism.

So what if they are not Arabic names? Why is that an important question?

kaecy5: @sagamite

COMMON MEN i did not insult you in anyform

calling me names is not required

thanks for letting me know your IQ level can not hold an argument if you do not resort to insult

I don't waste my time reasoning with obviously dumb people. See last line here:

https://www.nairaland.com/1511419/stella-oduah-travails-hardworking-public/1#19531816

Too much moronic junk in just ONE post!

There really is no excuse to be this stewpid on the net.

1) You are not under time pressure to give an opinion. You can take as long as you like.
2) Information is available at your finger tips.
3) No one can interrupt you and distract you.

How come someone can still come up with a post so pregnant with stupidity and I am suppose to waste my time with such a fooooool?

uzoexcel: lol
letz not talk of qatar and saudi

The mentally-ill person thinks they look like Ibadan ni.

kaecy5: @sagamite

i wanted to open my heart to reason with you and assume i dont know nothing about the situation
but if i can copy and paiste from your arguement i can see you were going in circles

i can see u agree with me on the following premise

1. the jews used to live there
2. they left at some point and decided to come back later
3. the arabs are not happy the jews are coming back to their home land
4. after the ottoman empire the british now own the land and decided to split the land
5. so after splitting the land, why are the arabs not happy with what they got?
6. you blew it when you used sagamu as an example. --- take eastern nigeria for instance, we know most of the igbo folks travel a lot out of the region, let us assume they have lived in US for 50 to 100 years and they want to return to nigeria, where do you think they would return to?? it is expected they return to the east and not ijebu land to claim because from history ijebu belongs to yoruba

same thing here, since you agree that the jews use to be here and they moved out, and they are back then the arabs should deal with it that they are back to stay.

every time the crisis resume the arabs forget the truth, they all pretend they dont know what started the immediate incident,
they start quoting history and claiming all sorts

this incident started with the kidnap of 3 boys and launching of rockets into isreali regions, if the jews are responding we should hold HAMAS first accountable b4 shouting jews.

fighting wILL not solve this situation

You are a reetarded murrafcker!

Which British people owned the land?

And where did you see the British trying to split the land and who are they to split the land?

And why should the Arab be happy that the British is splitting their land?

Why are you comparing 50/100 years to 1,300 years?

You are too stuuupid to even comprehend the joke I made about Igbos and Sagamu?

person, do you know how many Palestinian kids Israel has killed and nothing happpens except Israel claiming "We will carry out a thorough investigation"? Do you know what multiple of 3 this would be before you make the moronic statement that all this started because 3 kids were kidnapped?

I know a person when I spot one. You are a pure person.

Look at this foool's moronic logic!

all4naija: Lol... I think you have a point there. I have never agreed with you in any discussion. You are becoming smart by the day. Arabs conquered those places in the past and installed their puppets and forcing people to follow their Islamic religion (colonialists were even better)

Original, and majority of, Jews are Arabs who just happen to have chosen a different religion. A religion that has somehow metamorphise lexically into a representation of an "Ethnic Group".

They and the other Arabs have all been from that place from time immemorial, they all just happen to fall for different BS stories of people stating they spoke to God and they now know what God wants.

This falling for BS led to differences and different groups. And trust human beings (professional fucktards) when they see any differences, their primitive settings kick in into "Us vs Them" and start looking for how to fight/attack/dominate "them" ESPECIALLY when it comes to religion.

I can guarantee you that it was not like if the Jews themselves were innocent and folded their hands as innocent people. I am pretty sure they tried to force their own ignorant ways on the others in their society too. They are just the ones that lost in the battle of ignorance-projected-as-knowledge called 'religion'. The na-me-know-God-pass peoples.

There are estimated to be 2.2bn Christians around the world, 1.6bn Muslims, but only 17m Jews.

Over the last 2000+ years, the other 2 have slaughtered Jews to a diminishing point.

I just realise Jews actually spread as far as India and China during the 1300 years in their bid to escape their slaughtering. The exodus is what has led to the Arab-dilution of Jews. There are now Indian-looking and black-looking murrafckers in Israel that are regarded as Jews.

GuyFawkes: As I get older, the less I believe what anyone says on any side in this conflict. All the major players are insane, liars or delusional, since none of their actions are logical based upon their stated goals.
For example, Hamas can not win militarily, yet they choose that route, and do everything in their power to keep the Israeli hawks in office, and impoverish their own people. Israel claims to want peace and democracy and a culturally Jewish state, which are contradictory. Israel likes to pretend they are in a military struggle for existence, when they are by far the strongest military power in the middle east, complete with nuclear bombs; a state of the art air force; and the backing of the US. The US claims to want to help mediate peace, yet the US government is on Israel's side. People talk of a two state solution, when the Palestinian state is not viable economically, politically, geographically, nor militarily. It goes on and on.

Fcking well said!

A diplomatic quagmire.

davidylan: You're not really stuck between two sides. You're stuck between the facts and those for whom blaming Israel is the default setting regardless of the facts... most especially if they can use empty, loud bluster to get away with it. I'd advice you to read up and make up your own mind.

Nah.

She is stuck between facts, focus on root causes & objective balanced criticism AND on the other side a deep Islamophobic position that only results in Israel is never wrong.

GuyFawkes: The Palestinians on the West Bank didn't attach Israel in 1967; Israel was attacked by the military forces of the Jordanian monarchy. The reason they should give it back is that the majority of the Palestinians on the West Bank want Israel to stop seizing their land one parcel at a time, and then they will live in peace. My point is that there is a vast difference between the Palestinians on the West Bank and those in Gaza.
Israel is playing an evil game on the Wet Bank. They provoke Palestinians to the point of violence and then say, "see, you can't trust these people". The Europeans have long since seen through this hypocrisy, and now Americans are starting to do so as well.

You are on a very lontin.

Power mixed with world-renowned ignorance.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaw0rWI5idA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fys3MsKMpms

pro01: Why was he compelled to hang that offence tag around his neck in the mug shot? It is clearly demeaning and prejudicial, considering that he is supposed to be a 'suspect' - and likely a first-time offender.

Since guilt has not been established, it doesn't seem right. Besides, it is arguably not standard practice, since many persons accused/prosecuted for similar offences in this country are not subjected to the same indignity.

Perhaps learned lawyers in the house could shed light on the matter. What purpose does it serve? It can't (or at least shouldn't) be punitive, since suspects are deemed innocent until they are duly convicted.

Make you and your loryas dey speak grammar there. Me, I lof the picture.

Gentlemimi2: Sagamite the born fool,she is not a god to anyone but you. She is your personal god. She worths more than everything you hold dear in your life.
Apart from being a cretinous fvcktard,of what use/purpose do u serve? Useless imp.

Cretinous person, you are now trying to distance yourself from your potbelly God after I shamed your dumb arsse?

davidylan: We keep caterwauling about this mysterious "palestinian" land Israel seems to be taking even though the country is less than 100 miles across. Which land are you talking about?

Daaaafiiiiiiidi!

I am LMAO.

Why?

Because I know you and your type.

In your deep rage of Islamophobia, you backed off yesterday to have time to go and read some arguments of pro-Jewish people to ensure you NEVER accept that injustice was done to this (in your eyes) "filthy, demonic, evil Muslims".

This is after your knew your argument of:

1) "If the Palestinians are not asking back for all their lands from other Arabs, then they have no grounds to ask back for their land taken by Jews" was going to fail.
2) "Balfour Declaration clearly stated a promise to the Jews of a State of their own, so the Jews were justified to take the land" was going to fail.
3) "Balfour Declaration of a national home means a State of their own, so the Jews were justified to take the land" was going to fail.

And then you tried:

4) Pettifogging: The attempt to create a different debate direction by arguing on specious trivialities that has no bearing on who did the wrong first that kicked off the conflict. Hoping we would expend time on many thread pages arguing about silly things like "what was the 1967 war about" and "the Arabs were not called Palestinians before" while we forget the koko of the matter, i.e the root cause.

The new line now, I suspect is:

5) The Palestinians don't own the land.

All these are done all because you are so determined not to acknowledge the Muslims were not the cause of this conflict.

Before we go into your diversionary angles, I would take you back to the koko and ask you again:

"Show me where the Balfour Declaration stated the Jews are promised a State in Palestine under a two-state system".

cheruv: you've given nothing new.as a brainwashed slave,all your comments are baseless showing how cretinous your fucktardic brain has deteriorated too [sub][/sub]

You are a cretinous person.

It appears the Nigerian suffering his affecting you shallow brain?

The driver of the Okada you took today did not give you any helmet to prevent your brain being fried by the tough Nigerian sun?

tim411: Sad

Lord pls take away our corrupt leaders and leave credible and sincere men

Esp those in Pee dee pee Aaa Pee See

Dont forget dose lunatics in sambisa

Clean d nation oh lord

In Jesus Name

Your head correct!

Amen.

Pendusky come and learn how to say prayers o.

talk2smat: This just came in now. Human rights lawyer, Bamidele Aturu, is dead. Aturu reportedly died on Wednesday evening according to a colleague, Olanrewaju Suraj. Suraji confirmed that Aturu was sick briefly before he died in a Lagos hospital.

http://thenationonlineng.net/new/human-rights-lawyer-aturu-is-dead/



http://saharareporters.com/2014/07/09/prominent-human-rights-activist-bamidele-aturu-dead-49

Now this is one of the few GREAT Nigerians.

RIP.

alexdellafonte: Lol
She is jst 5 yrs ˚ƍöôϑ˚˚ Oº°˚˚°
Wait make she reach 18.

Go and talk that kin "nonsense" to Yerima. He would curse you!

kovak: But seriously dude, I think the disparagement against the polytechnic holders is rather too much and unfair.

My grievance is that the Nigerian education system is faulty and as such, we churn out mediocre workforce. Whether it is university or polytechnic graduates. More so, they both complete similar modules (course content)-at least I can safely say that for management science courses like accountancy, Banking and Finance, etc.

If this be the case, why discriminate one against the other?

The system needs an overhaul.

Yep. I agree.

That said, the most brilliant Nigerian students (who are very few) are likely to be found in Universities, only far fewer would be seen in Polys, hence why companies might prefer the University students for the very few jobs in the economy.

That said, majority of Nigerian students, both Uni and Poly ones, are academic and personal development disasters. Very much evidenced on NL.

kovak: LWKMBD

Trust me, he really thought he was giving some intellectual and analytical insights when he stated that.

Ahh! He has given me "proof" to back up his arguments!

toshmann: the best girl i ever dated is a chinese girl. . . this babe gave me no stress at all. as in, no wahala, not even for one day. like say i still dey UK i for marry am. i was so free with her, i could even go out and come back late at night and all she will ask is if i'm too tired for action.

hmmmmn, miss her badly. . . . .

@topic
love is blind. nigerian girls, pls marry anyone who loves you o, hoha! i don talk am. e go better.

Call her, mate.

Find her on FB if you have to.

Who likes stress and no like better thing.

all4naija: This LINK might help you to have a better view of the situation.

Yep. The Israeli PM already announced the "culprits" before any investigation.

They have killed 7 Palestinians during their investigation. And one was slaughtered by lunatics. And many more are injured.

They have arrested over 300 people, who most likely would not face trails and would not be released for a long time.

Lets even look at the example of these 3 Israelis killed that started this off.

The Israelis are so arrogant to the point that without producing ANY evidence and no investigations, they just put the blame on Hamas.

And they would say they are a just and civilised society.

The thing there is that if Hamas does something like that, they usually claim it. This time they denied it but the Israelis still went on a bombing spree.

dammytosh: Some Ediots hide under religion to kill innocent citizens while some Ediots hide under religion to defend them..

Too many Ediots, Too Few Bullets. Palestine has a lot to do about Hamas if they want to live in peace.

You can't harbour terrorists and claim innocence when those they look for their trouble come back for revenge.

I followed the story a bit when the Isreali teens where kidnapped until they were found dead. The retaliatory killer in Isreal was arrested and prosecuted by Isreali Govt while Palestine was forming we don't know the killer in their own case.

When Hamas fire rocket from the midst of civilian, Every body will scream Allahu Akbar, but when isreal retaliate, everybody will scream something else.

Lets forget religion and the owner of the land. Let them try to live in peace. Palestine and Isreal have no problem, it is Hamas that is the major issue.

What tosh!

Watch out and see the sentence the Jewish murderers would get.

Watch the soldiers that beat the American-Palestine and see if they are punished despite video evidence.

Without justice, you can never even start thinking of peace.

freecocoa: Seriously though saga, its been centuries, its about time they find a way to negotiate without violence, I can understand most people supporting the Israelis because the middle east seem to love blood shed/violence.

Yep, and the Israelis exploit that with perfection but I am an objective person.

They all need to negotiate but if you understand the dynamics of the place you would know that is impossible considering the internal politics taking place on both sides.

Both sides have groups that are ready to negotiate. But both sides also have mad fucktards that are unwilling to negotiate because:

"Allahu Akbar! No Infidels in Arab area!"

"Yahweh promised us ALL this land. So it is ALL rightfully ours, let them all leave!"

Can you see why I hate fucktards with a passion?

See my answer to the interview questions here "You seem to call everyone that disagrees with you a person/cretin. Why?":

https://www.nairaland.com/1083598/knowing-nairalanders-better-interviews/1#12945175

The mad fucktards of the Palestines have weapons and are happy to kill anyone that opposes them in Palestine.

The mad fucktards of the Jews do not need weapons as their State does the violence they want for them while they put on political pressure through brainwashed people to maintain it.

The Jewish President that dared to defy them, Yitzhak Rabin, and negotiated peace with the Palestines and made some serious concessions was slaughtered by a mad Jewish person.

Both leadership are playing with politics in mind and their lives on their minds too.

The world does not need fucktards in it. We need to eliminate them.

freecocoa: Wow! Seriously, I need to do some research on this whole issue.

Sagamite, where you dey? Come o.

Dafidi is just trying all forms of diversion to avoid admitting that the Jews were wrong in coming to take the land of Muslims after 1300 years.

Any random thing he can pull from anywhere is sufficient to him. He loves to see Muslims suffer.

I would always drag him back to the big question and put the breaks on his pettifogging & abstruse assertions, which he tries to use as a veil to say the fault is mainly that of the Muslims.

If the Jews did not try to come and moronically claim some land they think some God promised them, we would not have this problem.

I would give him root-cause analysis.

That said, now they are entrenched in there and always lived in the area, some negotiation and compromise is needed by the Arabs.

adanny01: You started well like someone who is neutral but ended up blaming one side when clearly your write up suggets both sides have their fair share of blame.

An action from one side results and in a reaction from the other side, its the simple truth which you agree.

There is one thing you missed which is part of the reason why the end is not near. The average Palestinian supports Hamas. Their government supports Hamas. Hamas is within the people. I dont blame them for that support in one view, in another view, for the interest of peace, they should renounce Hamas. This war is between Hamas and Isreali government that is taking a toll mostly on Palestinians.

You of all people know why Gaza is a 'jail'.

I intentionally blamed the side that wants to, works to and is normally painted as white.

They are a State Terrorist. They terrorise innocent people as part of their collective punishment philosophy.

Hamas is already well-known as a terrorist organisation, I don't need to re-invent the wheel.

By the way, if a superior power did all that to me, I WOULD be bombing them too.

davidylan: I said no such thing. I only wanted to put it on record that you largely have no clue when it comes to this topic and that you should be mindful of spreading such pernicious falsehoods.

I have not clue?

Okay, start by showing me that clue stuff you told me about Balfour Declaration containing reference to a creating a Jewish state under a two-state system.

I want to start having a clue today.

davidylan: Your post is as usual heavy on emotional rhetoric and extremely light on logic. Iranian kids, Lebanese kids, Libyan kids heck even kids from maiduguri do not go through the lengthy list of complaints you listed. Why do they all grow up seeking to kill a jew?

What has this to do with Jews not having the right to take Palestinian land?

xtervaganza: about time I let you die in pieces



You're no longer making sense

You are a person!

Let me catch you making another moronic statement on NL and see how I would smash you to pieces, cretin.

You are dumb, so I can pick and choose when to bully your moronic arsse!

davidylan: I took a quick read of sagamite's facts and they are riddled with falsehoods. Quick example- he says the 1967 war was about helping Palestinian refugees win back their land...

Well for starters, he either doesn't know or didn't tell you that the west bank at that time had been Jordanian territory since 1949 and that the Palestinians there today actually held Jordanian citizenship.

Sagamite's also forgot to tell you that as at 1967, gaza was a territory of Egypt.

Sagamite also forgot to tell you that the term Palestinian actually referred to Jews as at 1948 and that the term did not become synonymous with Arabs until 1988.

Sagamite also forgot to tell you that as at 1964, the PLO proclaimed that it had none and was not seeking any rights to the West Bank and gaza.

He also forgot to tell you that the 1967 war was never about land but about the destruction of the Jews. There is plenty of media evidence to prove this.

And those are just some of the grossly negligent omissions, misrepresentation of facts and outright lies contained in his note that you think provided you information.

And so?

That makes it just that Jews came to take the land of Palestines?