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MrsChima:
You are entitled to your opinions. You try (my example) that in America and see what happens.

Don't say I didn't warn you. ..

It is not about opinion, it is about being right and my opinions are always right.

Sexual harassment is when (a) you physically touch people in a sexual way OR (b) you keep on REPEATEDLY vocally expressing interest in them after they have told you they are not interested.

Neither happened in this case. So there was no sexism or sexual harassment that occurred. What occurred was an abuse of the general support for women's rights and women's social protection by a crazy feminist.

A lunatic feminist who just inadvertently destroyed her career and even her credibility as someone that can speak on women's rights. Two things, if you check her profile, she is working hard to build up.

The guy did nothing wrong and this is just another example of lunatic feminists using the higher sexual libido of men, and the fact that men traditionally have to make the first move, as a weapon against men.

And I know many women (especially married ones) will engage in their normally illogicality by refusing to see this for what it is because they see it as a good avenue for ensuring men are not able to cheat on them and the men stay in the jail called marriage with them forever even when he is no more interested.

The guy is a partner in a law firm so is likely to be wealthy. It is not unknown for young girls to try to connect with wealthy and powerful older men. They go to where they are and start a conversation and the man is responsible for taking it from there. So there is nothing strange or sexist about him even trying his luck. He did not say anything sexual, he complimented. That is not harassment or sexist. It could have led to something else after that in some cases.

Yours sincerely,

Sagamu's finest.

MrsChima:
Sexual harassment and sexism are two different definitions.

If the girl you compliment feels that you are being sexual and she feels uncomfortable then that is sexual harassment. Sexism is discrimination and prejudice of genders.

You do get it right on what sexism is but you fall short on sexual harassment.

So if a guy tells a girl "she is beautiful and wishes she is the future mother of his kids", because she does not fancy him (or she has a boyfriend) and feels uncomfortable, he has harassed her?

Squig:
Did you have doubts about your spouse before your wedding?

Did you meet someone amazing and you wanted him but decided to go ahead and marry your spouse?

How do you feel about the marriage now? Do you feel you did the right thing?

I'm in my mid 20s and I'm getting married next month, we've been together for almost 5years. He is the love of my life and I've never doubted my love for him or the fact that I wanted a family with him. He's got everything I want in a man.

The problem is we started having issues about 6 months ago, we stopped talking like before and we are completely disconnected now especially on my end but we're still going ahead with the marriage plan and I still want to marry him.

I met another guy I am really attracted to and we've been talking about a lot. He knows I am having issues with my man and I can't tell him we are planning to get married.

I'm having doubts about my man now, I'm confused, I feel I'll be happier with this new guy, I'm thinking it's lust but it's getting more complicated. Should I go on with the wedding?

Feel free to talk sense into my head, I need to hear hard truths.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIiUqfxFttM

IamAtribalist:
http://tribuneonlineng.com/zik%E2%80%99s-son-chukwuma-buried-fg-local-chiefs-absent

Whoever wrote this article is a cretinous fuuktard!

What the fck is the government's business with his burial?

EfemenaXY:
Sweaty Piers Morgan? The guy's a joke, Saga.

Baby, abeg remove all the youtube links above from all your quoting me so the page can load faster when people get on it.

You can leave the quotes just remove the youtube video links.

For those that did not have the time or patience to read some of the links I posted above, let me extract some of the contents on this link to highlight my point that what we have in the UK is institutional stereotpying and institutional connections.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/may/01/cameron-defends-downing-street-appointments

The link is the news report about David Cameron appointing too much of his fellow ex-students of Eton into government (just like the Hillary Clinton adviser analysed will happen before he was elected PM).

“Cameron would be superficially friendly and privately scornful. Class has a lot to do with the contempt. A Cameron government would be more aristocratic and even narrowly Etonian than any Conservative government in recent history.”

Eton is the most prestigious secondary school in the UK and where most of the children of the King or Queen of England attend. Princes William and Harry attended it.

He appointed Jo Johnson as Head of Policy Unit at Downing Street (i.e. the equivalent of Aso Rock). The Policy Unit are the people that help the PM set all the policies to run the country.

Jo Johnson did not only attend Eton and then Oxford like Cameron himself, but he is also the junior brother of Boris Johnson, the famous Mayor of London, who also attended Eton and Oxford and was in the Burlington Club at Oxford during the same time David Cameron was in the club. There is even a picture of them in the Burlington Club. The Burlington Club is a social club in University of Oxford for the kids of extremely wealthy people. They are known to be high spenders and even thrash up venues because mummy and daddy will pay for it. So the Mayor of London and the Prime Minister have been school mates since pre-puberty.

He also appointed Christopher Lockwood to the Policy Unit. Christopher is the former brother-in-law of Earl Spencer. Earl Spencer also attended Eton and Oxford and is the brother of Princess Diana, who is the former wife of the Prince Charles, the future King of England.

Christopher Lockwood also attended Oxford like Cameron. He did not go to Eton though, but he attended St Pauls, the same school Cameron's second in command and Finance Minister, George Osborne attended. Also, in 1993, Lockwood went on holiday to Italy with Cameron and his then girlfriend (who later became his wife). So they have been paddy paddy, I go I go, I come I come, for a long time.

There are so many more old Etonians in the Downing Street staff. So if you are going to appoint for a senior position in your company where your business depends on government access or its policy (which you want to influence), which type of candidate will you appoint to increase your chances of success? .....................A nigga or wigga from the hood or from a third world?

Even a minister in Cameron's own cabinet, Michael Gove, someone who Cameron appointed but attended a far less prestigious private school, complained about the appointment of too many Etonians.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/mar/14/gove-attacks-preposterous-number-old-etonians-cameron-cabinet

Jesse Norman, who is a part of David Cameron "policy board" (those that give external critique of the Policy Unit's work) and who also attended ..................(oya, make una guess, but no awards for getting it right o ) ........................Eton and Oxford, told a British newspaper when challenged about Etonians being apointed left and right that "Other schools don't have the same commitment to public service like Eton".

So you can see the mentality. They don't believe even those from lower private secondary schools have been "raised well enough" to do the job. Talk less of those too poor to attend a private secondary school. If you don't attended any of the top 20 private schools, your chances of getting to the top in the UK is quite harder.

So I ask: Is it about race?

What we have is institutional stereotpying and institutional connections.

This is another interview he did with Robert Downing Jr and pissed him off too like Tarantino.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok4t6DGXTmQ


Ayoade did well but this is Pharrell Williams DESTROYING him with Logic. SLAUGHTERED HIM!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHP-_JbSP2c

Mindfulness:
Why do you think do some people hold grudges for a long time (in families or with friends)?
Why are some other people very quick to forgive?

Different personalities.

Different cultures.

Different self-developments.

Mindfulness:
Would you apologize if someone was angry with you and hurt, someone close?

If I did something wrong I would apologise.

EfemenaXY:
Sweaty Piers Morgan? The guy's a joke, Saga.

That Richard Ayoade just wanted to promote his book by talking about its content but the guy was trying to direct him to talk about being black and all the accompanying "do you feel prejudice in the industry and are their enough black content in it" etc, so they can get a headline in the papers in the morning saying "Richard Ayoade says the Entertainment industry is RACIST".

What the guy did not intend to say and was not interested in. Unfortunately, Quentin Tarantino gave him a headline that he could use. "Quentin Tarantino loses cool in interview".

Another tactic this media people use now when they realise their stuupid arguments have no legal grounds to stand on is to say "Don't you think you have a moral reponsibility to ..............."

My answer would be "Can you point me to the Book of Moral Responsibilities where you got that opinion from? What page? What chapter?".

Interviewer: "But surely you have some moral guiding principes, don't you think that should apply to .........."

My answer: "Unfortunately, the world is not about MY morals. It does not evolve around me. The world has over 7bn people in it with contrasting morals. I will stick to my authoritative and legal responsibilities in public and keep my morals to myself. Do you have any questions based on legalities or any wrong doing?"

EfemenaXY:
Lol!

Saga, what's the name of that open panel discussion (with some representatives of the main political parties) that occurs some nights immediately after the 10 O'clock BBC News? The presenter of that show is a brilliant moderator. Exhibits top-notch professionalism without compromising his integrity in the process. Kind of like going in for the kill without actually killing the prey if you know what I mean.

Another good one is John Snow from Channel 4.

Question time.

The days of Sir David Frost are long gone in journalism.

What we have now is junk. The Piers Morgan era is what we have nowadays.

Mindfulness:
When is an apology SINCERE? How do you know it is sincere?

An apology that is not a throw-away apology. Not something said just for the sake of saying or because they want to engage in "lets keep the peace".

You will know by their tone, body language and ability to identify and accept the specific wrong doing. Not the "okay, I apologise. Even though I don't know what I am apologising for or why I am apologising".

EfemenaXY:
Nice ones, Saga.

The interviewer (or pls what's his name again?), tends to go in too hard. That might work for some and not for others - but how can making unsuspecting people look silly be any good for his career? If his potential interviewees knew what to expect, then they'd be a lot more prepared like the Nigerian / Norwegian writer.

You know, I think there is a time and a place for everything. HARDTALK is more appropriate for such interviews.

Exactly.

That is the culture of modern UK journalist nowadays.

Looking for the next day headline.

The feel they can do that because they interviewer will largely always remain anonymous and is giving no opinion (just asking questions), while the interviewed would be the popular person being provoked or tempted to say something disagreeable to be on the front page the next day.

Complete useless journalism not aimed at getting valuable information for the audience or challenge the interviewed rigorously. It is just aimed at extracting sensationalism.

That Ayoade nigga was damn ready.

By the end you will be wondering "what was that interview about again". He just talked rubbish throughout.

"You want rubbish? I go give you rubbish".

Mindfulness:
This thread was inspired by another (The power of grudges in the family.) and some family members of mine who are known for bearing grudges for a while, whether they have been really wronged or just imaginatively.

What kind of person are you? Quick to forgive or rather resentful or even vindictive?

I am trying to understand what the psychology is behind a forgiving and unforgiving nature? And maybe we can help some people cope with their rather unforgiving family members.

I overlook minor things quite easily and just get on with it. I don't necessarily need an apology.

If it is something bad or hurtful, I only forgive when the person SINCERELY apologises. Not those "okay-I-apologise-shut-up" apologies. If I don't get the apology, I just ignore the person.

If it is something evil and was done intentionally, then I never forgive. If it is someone close (girlfriend, buddy, family etc), I will just cut them off. If it is not, I will be coming for you if I can. Revenge is sweet and I am ruthless at it!

EfemenaXY:
Saga, that clip was awesome - and that's putting it mildly.

Corbyn was absolutely right about his interviewer applying "tabloid journalism", and that really was a cheap gimmick aimed at stirring an immediate outrage - and I fell for that too at the beginning when he asked him why he called those groups his "friends". If I (and I think many others too) hadn't heard Jeremy Corbyn's explanation, we definitely would have been biased.

His explanation was factual, straight to the point, and literally left his interviewer clutching at straws. He succeeded in making him look very unprofessional, despite all his years of "journalism". I think sometimes, these people need a proper shout-down.

Good viewing material. I certainly like guy a zillion times better. Maybe, after our wet lettuce of an ex-labour leader (Eds), there is some light at the end of the tunnel for Labour.

Exactly!

This Kristian Guru-Murthy is fast losing all forms of professional credibility with his interviewing approach.

He is becoming a complete tabloid journalist who is looking to provoke the people he is interviewing with moronic questions and strawmans.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTE8FPgHeE4

Quentin Tarantino did not know how to handle him though. He lost too much control.

Here is a brilliant chap that handled it better. This is how I will handle it on the day I choose not to be aggressive. Take a piss out of him and just talk shyt.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjC3ycS_2js

cococandy:
I'm more worried about the implications of this her action than what she says about some British politicians.
She's our favorite candidate.

I don't think she really used it for any sensitive and damaging things, as far as I am aware. She just used it to have conversations she did not want to be on US public records.

damiso:
While I don't actually agree with some of UKIPs policies the truth is most conservative backbenchers and members actually agree with most of them . But because of all this phoney centre right left centre centre centre rubbish they can't actually say it. UKIP actually had 4 million votes so it tells us a lot of people agree with them.

Yeah I think Jeremy Corbyn is actually a good thing for Labour because I think all the main stream parties esp in England (SNP is an exception). Unelectable,maybe (partly cos of the annoying Tory rhetoric of the working people vs 'benefit scroungers') but at least the landscape will be more varied and not just the 'oxbridge' career politicians that all look and sound the same.

The bolded got me cracking up!

Exactly!

Many of them know some of these things are right but have absolutely no balls to say it because they are terrified of the leftist British media coming to attack them with front page headlines like "Outrage", "Apologise", "Xenophobic" etc.

I have said it before on NL. The UK media is DESTROYING the country. They are making it impossible to make sensible policies, only populist/liberal policies are the only ones allowed and will not lead to media attacks.

This thing I am saying about the UK media is something you will be hearing them discuss in future. I can bet anyone on that. They are destroying the country.

This is how China and co will overtake them because they do not have such a problem and can make sensible policies.

Look at the pressure they are putting on the UK government to take refugees.

Refugees that are too large and some you don't even know how extremist they are. Worse still, when the local population is already very sensitive to migration.

And that foooool in Germany called Angela Merkel publicly told them to all start coming. Now today they are saying they can't take anymore. I have never seen such stupid political proclamation in my life.

"We are going to take 800,000 refugees this year"!

And you do not expect all soughts to pack their bags and try their luck even if they are not in real danger?

Some people are even throwing their passport away and claiming to be Syrians.

EfemenaXY:
As long as the Bank of England Base / Interest Rate stays low (even if artificially), then I'm cool with that abeg. I think it once peaked to 16% at the height of the recession in '92, compliments to the conservative government in power then.

I don't necessarily even agree with Corbyn's policies as I am not a leftist. I just like the fact that he stands for something and speaks his mind. Something British politics has missed since Thatcher and we have been having "Please-like-me", "I-don't-want-to-offend-anyone", "I-will-sit-on-the-fence-if-I-think-what-I-will-say-is-not-popular", Tony Blair-wannnabe, murrafucker politicians in all 3 major parties.

I prefer someone I disagree with but I know takes a position based on his genuine conviction.

EfemenaXY:
I know I'm sooooooooooooo far behind on my current affairs - but is this the elderly man from the trio that got selected? Even without knowing much about his background, I already preferred him on sight. Something about the way he carried himself got to me. Self-respect and genuine. Not some fake career wannabe aspirationist that'll sell his soul to the other party just to get "in there". I'm referring to Nicky C.

Exactly!

His name is Jeremy Corbyn.

The first time I saw him was on TV being interviewed by Guru-Murthy of Channel 4 with the typical UK TV interviewer aggressive, interrupting and I-must-trip-you approach and he categorically told Guru-Murthy off to shut up.

I had been waiting for long for a politician with some balls that would do that because I knew that is what I would do if I was the one.

I was so happy, I immediately whatsapp my friends to tell them I think I have finally found a UK politician I can back.

A politician that speaks his mind, not the cretins that are constantly looking for applause and want to look "modern".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4c_z8Jyuas

damiso:
Sagamite me too I don't get all the fuss about a left wing party being too leftist

Like you said the media started all the not electable leftist talk but it apparently did not work.

Yep.

Just like they did against UKIP.

I have never seen such media intense and bias attack in my life especially from the BBC and [the homosexuality-champions] Channel 4.

Relentless attack to tarnish the party and/or make it look like an unserious set-up.

Coming up with one "ist" and "phobic" after the other to throw at them.

"Extremist, racist, homophobic, xenophobic, sexist, transphobic, alarmist etc".

Nigel Farage worked hard and did well. They just kept attacking with accusations to keep him busy (not talking about policy) and make his party look bad (if you keep on talking negative about someone's character, they will not look respectable, hence unelectable).

That is a tactic these western jourrnalist use, so that they can throw their hands in the air and say they are not bias and are just asking questions.

But if you are asking such negative questions all the time, then your accusations will subconciously be highly likely associated with the target. They know this and employ it very well alot of times.

If I keep on asking a man in public, at different times, over and over and over again, if he is sure he does not molests kids, soon people would soon start thinking "he might be doing that" even if there is no concrete evidence he does. It is human nature to the less sharp mind, which form the majority of people.

That is what is called media bias.

What this Jeremy Corbyn is going to try and bring to UK politics is the Scandinavian socialist system.

I am sure everyone knows it has worked perfectly well for the Scandinavians, so I wonder why all the subtle attack. The constant "is he unelectable?", which they hope would stick once they ask it over and over again.

That said, do I think a rapid application of the Scandinavian socialism would work in the UK?

No.

The British people have a different mindset and culture. It will take decades to change it. So you have to implement such changes extremely slowly.

That said, I am sure if Labour wins London Mayoral elections, house price growth will slow drastically.

asha80:
I would love to hear your views on tho vis a vis what is obtainable in uk(that is how uk banks operate and how they sustain themselves)

Bruv, you no fit compare UK banks to Naija ones o.

How they operate really depends on the banks.

There are 4 traditional business models banks engage in:

- Pure retail bank (i.e. banking for the general public and businesses as most Nigerian banks do)

- Universal bank (i.e. same as retail but with a strong range of products and international presence, that is what UBA & GTBank are attempting)

- Investment bank (i.e. where a bank deals in high finance and might have or might not have a retail side, IBTC is a bit like this)

- Bancassurance bank (where a bank is heavily involved in both retail banking and insurance)

They do not charge depositors interest for keeping their money, rather, they give them interest. They make most of their money from fees and commission from their products and services. Something they can do because London is a financial hub, the people are highly paid and are open to taking debt or using financial products. Businesses, which are normally bigger than their counter parts in Nigeria, are willing to and have to take banking products. They are willing because they operate in a pretty stable and predictable market, so it is lower risk. Unlike the businesses in Nigeria operate in an unstable and unpredictable market, why would they want to take loans from banks, especially when the interest is punishing?

The UK banks take money from the public (salaries, pensions and savings) and businesses (revenues and savings) and then loan it out to businesses and people with a robust risk assessment process. Unlike Nigeria, over here, information is available to make judicious and almost accurate decisions and you can understand the risks being taken.

Their sources of deposits is diverse and international. They don't need to depend heavily on any government or business. They don't lend money to big men who then miss repayments and they can't do anything apart from publishing their names in newspapers.

They have the following advantages over Nigerian banks:
- Large and reliable sources of deposits
- International reputation
- Available information
- Skilled and hardworking staff
- Robust regulation
- Investment opportunities
- Financial and technological innovation

If you are in an environment where you can find a lot of money to take, and then find skilled people to efficiently loan it to others for interest, and you have financial products that are relevant to the needs of borrowers and then you give these borrowers reliable channels to borrow the money from you, you will have a successful and strong bank.

Ayoswit:
Lovely family........ My great son is a year old today. Pls nairalanders show him love with some likes.

The cute bobo don already they tell you say "The sky is the limit for me in this world and I am going to enjoy it".

He pointed out that if government decides to implement the policy strictly, there will be serious liquidity crisis as the top six banks in the public sector deposits control about 70 per cent of total money market liquidity.
However, he noted that the policy is presently predominantly Federal Government account as most states are not eager to toe that line, thereby giving some of the banks a breathing space.

I guessed as much that was why Zenith was sacking 2000 staff.

More banking jobs to go.

For those quite inquisitive, some of you would be aware that the US Democrats' presidential candidate, Hillary Clinton, is in a bit of trouble because while she was US Secretary of State (i.e. Foreign Affairs Minister), she use her personal email to communicate on some of her official work. Hence taking a risk with an insecure public server.

Now the US State Department have been releasing last week some of her emails to the public after she turned them in.

Now read some of what was discussed about British politicians and the elite with one of her advisers.

Her unofficial adviser, Sidney Blumenthal, emailed her the following analysis:

“Cameron would be superficially friendly and privately scornful. Class has a lot to do with the contempt. A Cameron government would be more aristocratic and even narrowly Etonian than any Conservative government in recent history.”

"Nick Clegg has inbred arrogance" He adds that the former Lib Dem leader is “from no less a privileged background than Cameron, though seeming less snobbish because he went to Westminster instead of Eton and has a less pronounced upper-class accent”.

That Nick Clegg "will look down on her because he went to public school".

And that "Britain ruled by ex-public school boys had no friends in Europe".

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/01/new-hillary-clinton-emails-reveal-david-milibands-heartache-at-leadership-loss

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/cameron-and-clegg-are-snobbish-and-arrogant-us-government-advisers-told-clinton-10481271.html

http://www.spectator.co.uk/columnists/hugo-rifkind/9622002/the-real-lesson-of-the-hillary-clinton-emails-most-secrets-are-boring/

EXACTLY the way I have always stated Cameron was on NL. Pretentious, fake cretin! Work with this kind of guy, he would fcking smile at you while looking down on you behind your back. He is always thinking he is smart and can manage the people by "intelligently" fooling them.

As I said, these positions are already shared out in the top public schools (what we call "private schools" in Nigeria) like Eton, Harrow, Winchester and co. And if you are not in the network of these aristocrats, whether you are black or white or green, you have little chance, they will look down on you.

The adviser said it, Cameron was going to appoint mainly from his secondary school just like I said. And that was what happened.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/may/01/cameron-defends-downing-street-appointments

And some moronic hooodrat ediot wants to be arguing with me about people I have studied and worked with extensively in the past few years of my life?

Fckng Labour leading class put 3 Oxbridge connected arsitocrats in leadership race for members to vote as leader, and then threw in one commoner they thought had no chance and was unvoteable just to give the illusion that they were not snobby.

Well, the commoner out-foxed them and won because he is the type that speaks the fck what he means and wants. I bet that guy is from Sagamu.

INTROVERT:
Congratulations dude... why did it take you so long?

bummyla:
ok! congratulations! http://www.bummyla.com

ellabooz:
Pure attitude of a westerner,jealousy and hate.

Lazy dudes,is it his fault that your dads are not Governors.

Back to the topic, Nigga ball hard why it lasts

Same to your dumb arsses too.

https://www.nairaland.com/2594189/fayoses-son-tomiwa-purchases-porsche/4#37942709

FlirtyKaren:
Tomiwa Fayose, one of Ekiti state Governor Fayose's handsome sons, recently acquired the luxury supercar and took to Instagram to show it off. Big congrats to him.

http://www.lailasblog.com/2015/09/gov-fayoses-son-tomiwa-fayose-purchases.html

You are a cretinous fuuktard!

"Big Congrats to him"?

E no go better for your whole family.

May you all perish from the ills of Nigeria like armed robbery, collapsed buildings, fake drugs, trailer with no brakes, electrocution, kidnapping murder, plane crash, malnutrition, death during child-birth etc.

Moronic fuuktard!

They are looting you, you are congratulating them.

I swear e no go better for you life. May it all end in misery.