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This extremely shocking behavior is very normal to people around Aba and its environs due to very very horrific leadership for decades now. From Bakassi boys time till now, so many thousands have been slaughtered and butchered in the most horrific ways possible without anything done to ascertain guilt. As the city has continued to decay and elites and enlightened people flee the city the people left behind have entrenched this behavior and normalized even more.

I don't have stats but just witnessing the rampage of the Baskassi boys and the regular roasted human flesh all over the city in years past its quite a good number. The govt barely exists there and nobody keeps record of it.

Abia state has a massive massive leadership problem because only a change in that can lead to a change in this backwards mentality of the people

Greeninho:
What a mockery of democracy! Some people are mischievous. On what moral justification should one reelect OVI? For owing workers salary? For multiple taxation that this govt is known for? Or for infrastructural development? Or for doing little or nothing while youths are increasingly embolden to join cults, intimidate and maim people? May be for singing the Aba made song to the world? May be for doing a little better than his predecessor? But is that enough? No! that will be settling for less.

I don't know if you people are happy about the pace of development in Abia state? compare Abia with ebonyi state in the last three years, which has fared better? is it infrastructure? is it workers salaries? is it agriculture? Is it that we wait till Jesus comes before we start seeing such pace of development?

Abia has a lot of prospects compared other states. In Aba specifically, property rent(annual rent) is paid, infrastructure rent, fitness for habitation, sanitation fee (bare it in mind you will never see ASEPA dispose any waste but won't hesitate to use police to intimidate people into paying inexistent service), there is also capitation rate all paid to abian govt , there's also vigilante fees, what about fed. monthly allocation? 13% derivation as oil producing state? What are these monies used for? Bear in mind that in every building in Aba there's a shop or shops - they also pay their own version of tax. These aside, what about the markets and business clusters - Ariria, ahia ohuru, ekeoha, ehere, udele, st. michael, etc. Enough money to transform a small state like Abia. This is why I find difficult to agree with his handlers that he has done well.

First, the handlers of OVI started with the rhetoric of him having many court battles/cases for his inefficiency in fast tracking infrastructural development, after the court battles, it was the rains, out of the 3.5 years a governor cannot boast of up to 20 roads constructed or reconstructed in any major city of the state. When you remind them that he campaigned with ngwa road, ohanku road, ph road and many others, they said he will do it but when? Now they came up with another excuse it is nddc road or that world bank would assist or federal road and that federal govt has assured them that they will handle it. And I ask can't OVI construct adjoining roads to these roads to ease congestion on these roads. Now some say he should be allowed to complete his 8 years? I ask on what basis exactly?

His handlers should quit dancing around opposition (apc & apga) court cases, its sickening! It shows panic. Opposition is good for democracy. He should put his ears on ground, people are not happy, of course not that you can please everybody but people expected much than what he has given especially the excuses. I doubt if the family sacked by flood (caused by not constructing roads and water channels), or the ordinary citizen who jumps bad roads everyday or the one that swims dirty waters and sometimes fall into gutters esp. during rainy season or business man having heaps of refuse in front of his business premises while ASEPA selectively do their work will vote for him.

For me it is obvious that OVI government isn't the government abians have been clamouring for. He should go and hang his boots!

His paid minions are on here trying to fool people.

Aba is a complete dump currently. A filthy city with so much wasted potential. These paid jokers are on here posting the height of mediocrity and saying they want it to continue

The only people they can fool are people who have no ability to see Aba and Umuahia and the stagnant trash heaps they have become

1759King:
It is quite unfortunate Abia as a state has NEVER enjoyed good GOVERNANCE.

Ebonyi is leading Abia State now - I have been to Ebonyi recently; I saw the good roads and the people there have fewer complaints now. Their governor is performing albeit filling his pockets as is with all thieves called 'Nigerian politicians'.

PDP may have failed Abia woefully but Abians failed Abia 'more' woefully. There were fine (on paper) candidates in 2015 - Ogah and Otti, but Abians chose to remain in the shackles brought upon them by Orji Uzor Kalu.

You see, T. A Orji did his puppet service to Orji Uzor Kalu during his (T. A Orji) first tenure, then he gained his freedom and stole the state dry during his second tenure. He brought on his puppet Ikpeazu...

You'd think Ikpeazu will get his freedom IF he wins second tenure but no! There's T. A Orji's son who is more deadly than his father.

I do want to become Abia state Governor someday, may be in 8 years time, but I don't want my people to keep suffering until then.

I can't decide who Abians should vote for, but I'll advise we as a people do away with sentimental voting. 'This is an Ngwa man', 'this one is from Aro' hasn't helped the state in any way!

Please and please do not vote for someone who is/has been a puppet, and who is yearning for freedom to steal the state dry and lord over his own puppet when he goes for retirement in the senate.

My 2 kobo.

Abia state was extremely unfortunate to get an uneducated man in OUK as governor in the first place. Set the bad tone of governance and state back and since then it has gotten worse.

Now unless the current mediocre person is ousted Abia is done as a state. T.A Orji's son is waiting in the wings.

The sad thing is 8 years under a visionary leader and you can totally change the state

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/regional/ssouth-east/181459-inec-declares-abia-governorship-poll-inconclusive.html

A fake result that had Obingwa having more voters than Aba and Umuahia, the 2 population centers of the state, both combined!! Same issue as Osisioma

Assigning Ikpeazu 82,000 and 42,000 votes while giving Otti 1,000 votes when compared to other Ngwa areas Otti was getting at least 40%

It’s clear you are a paid Ikpeazu supporter if you even pretend Obingwa has more people than the cities of Aba and Umuahia put together

eduj:
You made sense,but ikpeazu has done well for Ngwaland,that's why he would win next year.All his roads in aba and obingwa-even the enyimba stadium isn't it for the ngwa peeps? Then you factor in the gain to his tribesmen ,from being in places of power they have never been before now.Most Ngwa men including regan ( ex-apga leader) is for him.
When ovi is done come 2023,power should rotate to abia north (the ohafia peeps are lobbying for that position in return for supporting the incumbent).After 8 years (if the status-quo is maintained),it goes to abia central ,isialangwa north and south are in this zone.The truth is that,ouk's divide and conquer tactics in Ngwaland is dead,don't expect the ngwa nation not produce a governor after a period of 8 years-the have the numbers,funds and structure now.

Wait till 2023 for what? It’s like you don’t understand what elected positions are about. You are not entitled to any position. I look at illiterates saying “no vacancy till 2023” and it’s like they are totally clueless about what being an elected official is about. Ikpeazu and his paid internet army don’t get to keep Abia people in the gutter because he is entitled to occupy the governorship. The arrogance of some of you people here!!!

Aba is the dirtiest and most dilapidated city in nigeria. A city without roads, drainages, a single traffic light, a single street light and looks like a refuse dump.

Umuahia looks like an abandoned village in the midst of filth.

Yeah Abia people should continue in horrific conditions so Ikpeazu can get to 2023 and hand over to TA’s son Ikuku right so they can continue the wickedness inflicted on Abians uninterrupted?

The impunity in the state needs to end in the next 3 months

eduj:
The elections of 2015 was a close one.Alex otti rightfully lost,because he didn't strategise well.Abia is made up of 17 lga's not 4 (aba north and south,and umuahia north and south) he had nothing for the other lgas ,he is still ignoring them as of today.while he won aba north and south with about 20,000 votes, the incumbent won obingwa and osisioma with over 100,000. Fast forward to 2019,otti has lost over half of his followers because,the incumbent is working.He hasn't made headway into pdp's zones but has seen his degraded in almost every part of Abia.
Pdp will win abia easily next year,unless the Fed/Apc-army-inec collabo as employed in osun,is deployed in abia.

You are a joke. Otti won the election in a landslide. Massive landslide. Then TA and crew went and wrote fake results in 2 LGA’s of like 98,000 to 1000 votes and another 47,000 to 1000 votes or some nonsense like that. Otti won in landslide accords all the other LGA’s

Ikpeazu can never win re-election because he never won in the first place

Aba is an absolute filthy slum. A huge refuse dump where no real infrastructure exists. A town without roads, sanitation, street lights or traffic lights.


The people are supposed to want that to continue? GTFOH with this nonsense writeup

rvp2018:
Kenya real estate sector - for 2016 - lot of activity - Nigeria - only the single tower of Eko City & World trade center of Abuja completed
Kenya
Retail - 100,000 sq m of retail added in 2016 - up from 50,000 in 2015
Office - 300,000 sq m of commercial space - up from the average of 150,000 in previous years

Nigera - absolutely nothing going on except in one tower Eko City -

The graphics below this post can you post the source of the information?

superlightning:
worst state by what indices? bia, in as much as I detest KALU AND THEODORE for worsening our infrastructural deficit, I don't see where abia ranks at the bottom as a state.

its easier to develop a virgin territory like abakaliki than an industrial region like aba. this is because no matter what development you bring you must stick to the plan. moreso, the momentum of reurbanisation will be slower due to the structures already on ground. by the way, there is also an umuahia city to cater for.

educationally and economically, abia remains a force to reckon with in Nigeria.

Guy while most other Nigerian cities and Eastern cities have improved from what they were 30 years ago, Aba is the only one that is worse than it was 30 years ago. Enugu is a bigger and better city than before, so are places like Awka, Owerri and Onitsha. Even nearby Uyo that is about 1 hour from Aba is a much better city now. None of these places were comparable to Aba just 20 years ago. they were small towns in comparison.

The regression in Abia is killing Igboland completely since this state and esp Aba is the hub of manufacturing in Nigeria. The current state of the city is an absolute shame. Nothing to show whatsoever for 20 years under OUK, TA and the current guy.

OreMI22:
Abia State moved from the BEST state in the SE to indisputably the WORST state in the SE.

Sadly, Aba is a principal city in the SE that must rise for the economy of the zone to take off. I am so sad each time i remember Orji Uzor Kalu and Theordore Orji. These are two names that will live in infamy for their roles in dragging Abia state from a prime state in Nigeria to a totally failed state.

I hope the present Governor Okezie Ikpeazu will focus on reviving Aba into a vibrant city again through fixing it's infrastructure. Once the city is made habitable again, private investors will flow in and do what is required in that video. The only role of the government is to clean up the city and fix the roads. I like that they are using concrete roads for some perennially flooded roads to make sure they are solid even when the area is flooded.

You are 100% correct about the principal city thing. The southeast zone will permanently be held back as long as Aba is the way it is. Its the foremost city in the southeast with all the tools to become a consequential city in Africa.

Unfortunately OUK & TA Orji squandered the potential of this city and has dug a massive massive hole which is hard to come out from. The current governor is the exact same.
None of them have the ability to see Aba for what it should be and to take in in that direction. Aba needs an experienced and visionary technocrat.

20 wasted years so far. Hopefully that ends next year otherwise the South East will keep sinking and the South east will keep getting mocked and insulted by all and sundry

horsepower101:
ENYIMBA ECONOMIC CITY MASTER-PLAN




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6azcysXjvM&t=17s

If only southeastern leaders understood the goldmines that they are sitting on especially a City like Aba.

The leaders of Abia State have been monumental failures. Videos like this, even 10% of it will remain a complete pipe dream unless the current caliber of leadership changes immediately.

This garbage needs to end now and change immediately

More on Aba very recently

https://www.nairaland.com/4739948/pollution-covered-second-most-important#71353691

www.dailypost.ng/2018/07/31/aba-abia-cities-terrible-condition-ex-envoy-emuchay/amp/

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/07/traders-lament-deplorable-state-ngwa-road-aba/amp/

The supposed leading light and city of Eastern Nigeria is currently like this

More on Aba very recently

https://www.nairaland.com/4739948/pollution-covered-second-most-important#71353691

www.dailypost.ng/2018/07/31/aba-abia-cities-terrible-condition-ex-envoy-emuchay/amp/

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/07/traders-lament-deplorable-state-ngwa-road-aba/amp/

Can you please delete these embarrassing and mediocre pictures from this thread and delete this thread.
What’s so shocking is that you are posting pics like this as “good works”.

GTFO with this nonsense

The reality in Aba is below

https://www.nairaland.com/4739948/pollution-covered-second-most-important#71353691

Can a moderator put this on the front page please

TheBookWorm: Africans really need to stop the tribalism.

Since black people are viewed already as the wretched of the Earth.

It is time for solidarity.

This is garbage. Japanese and Chinese don't do solidarity neither do Brits and Russians.

What Nigeria needs is industrialization at all costs and an end to the mediocre mindset that the general populace has

naijaking1:
^^^
Afrocentric thrash written by Homer before Christ
I have told you to go get some education.

You need to get some education on the roots of words like Libya and Africa and how ancient people depicted them as well as learn about the history of North Africa before spewing lies on here

naijaking1:
The more you erroneuosly keep speaking about these "white berbers" the more illitrate you appear. And most unfortunately, the more the teacher in me wants to educate you.
First of all, do you know the meaning of the word Libya as first used by Homer, and in his Odysseus?
It meant [size=18pt]land of black people[/size].
Think about it, and while you're at it find out when the Illiad was written, and the value to World history.

You are talking arrant nonsense and complete falsehood

Look up the roots of the word and the ancient depiction of Lybians from thousands of years ago and stop telling lies

White Berbers are African indigines and you dont have to accept that but american afrocentric trash is not going to change realiity

ROSSIKE:
sage said:

Dude please get your nasty Arab imported self and disappear from our midst. If black Africans wish to take pride in the achievements of black Africans, it is THEIR prerogative and absolutely nothing to do with YOU.

The ancient sources ALL wrote that the original Berbers were black skinned. End of story. Take your manipulated ''scientific markers'' and stick 'em up your imported backside.

Lol at this joke of a guy . Which "Arab" is that?

Keep deluding yourself and engaging in endless stupidity

Your American based nonsensical delusions are not going to alter reality

White Berbers have been a permanent fixture of the African continent

but if telling yourself foolish lies from Americans makes you feel better, so be it


Just take your nonsense and shove it up your backside and stop polluting this place with outright lies

[quote author=MzD@rkSkin link=topic=608408.msg7781735#msg7781735 date=1298404551][color=teal]lmao @ Sage aka Algerian. Pathetic.

'whites are as African as blacks!' Muahahahaha! The hilarity!
Anyway. . .back to topic @ Kilode?! I happen to have a bit of respect for
Gaddafi. to tell you the truth. I see him as an "Arab/African" Che Guevara (yes I said it!)[/color][/quote]You are not even an African at all so you are not in a position to comment on what you dont know about. White Berbers where the first people called Africans and if you dont know what you are talking about just shut the Zap up[i][/i][color=#550000][/color]



these White Berbers are much more African than a non African like you and if you dont know the history of a place, keep quiet please


and for the last time I am not Algerian

[quote author=tpiah! link=topic=608408.msg7777191#msg7777191 date=1298348495]Black people seem to be the ones fooling themselves with this dna genetic marker crap. I dont see other races carrying carrying it on their heads like nigerians. An algerian even came on here to tell you he is white and you`ve still asking if he`s european white or berber white. Smh at the situation.[/quote]You dont see an Algerian or a Morroccan claiming that because people in Norway are white and because he is white also, the accomplishment of Norweigians are his own?

You dont see people in Japan claim Chinese history as their own and you dont see Japanese people claiming Chinese history because they look similar


its mainly Afrocentric morons that go around doing insanely silly stuff like that

[quote author=tpiah! link=topic=608408.msg7777191#msg7777191 date=1298348495]Black people seem to be the ones fooling themselves with this dna genetic marker crap. I dont see other races carrying carrying it on their heads like nigerians. An algerian even came on here to tell you he is white and you`ve still asking if he`s european white or berber white. Smh at the situation.[/quote]What has that got to do with what we are talking about?

He is a Berber white so are we supposed to jump into an ocean, clap our hands or perform gymnastics lol

Acknowledging that he is a Berber does not mean anybody is fooling himself. I dont care if he calls himself "white" or not. He can call himself blue for all I care

Fooling yourself can de defined as adopting crazy American "Afrocentric" ideas from people who dont know what they are talking about

By the way, Ghadaffi is using Mercenaries from Egypt, Algeria, Chad and even Asian countries to fight against his own people

[quote author=Kilode?! link=topic=608408.msg7777139#msg7777139 date=1298347324]Ok, I asked for the time-period clarification because you mentioned it.

Now, I personally don't care what Berbers, Touregs or any group call themselves. I don't own Africa and I don't own culture. But my dignity, respect and personal liberty is mine to protect. So if someone, group of people, race, or whatever sees my skin color as inferior and acts towards me based on that feeling of superiority, then I'll have an issue regardless what science, politics or geography calls them. I don't even care if we share the same mother. It's all the same to me.

That was the basis of my worry from my first post on this thread.

I was worried that using Dark skinned mercenaries(from the pics and comments on the report) might lead to race/color based attacks or discrimination as it often occurs in the Arab world where dark skinned people are historically and culturally seen and treated as inferior.

I don't care if Berbers are from Fernando po or my mothers village. Do they see dark skinned folks as inferior? If they do? Then I'm on their case everywhere and watching out for them. That's all[/quote]I understand what you are saying but it looks like two different convesations are going on at the same time. The attitudes of Berbers towards others is the topic you are asking about which a Berber is probably in the best position to answer but my replies were directed towards another discussion which is the history of Berbers which some afrocentric americans are trying to revise

Algerian:
I mean this one is my last:

@ Kilode:

Yes, I'm Berber, Kabyl more precisely which is the biggest "sub-tribe" of Berbers in Algeria.
About Islam, as you can imagine, I totally disagree with what you said : A religion is much more of a serious matter than a mere choice or a trend. That's another debate but for the records keep in mind that North Africa has almost never been under the rule of central Islamic state and the Islamic local states were almost always berber or "Black" (The almighty Almoravide state that ruled on West, North Africa and Andalusia started in Senegal by locals. It's the preacher/founder of this particular state who made part of Nigerians muslims).

By white I mean that I have a reddish/blond beard and green brown eyes.

The traditional Berber culture is a tribal culture where the guy of the next tribe is a total stranger even if he looked like you and spoke your language, so black people were no exception even if the "adoption" mechanisms were a lot easier than nowadays. Now if it's about racism in the modern sense, I think (I'm not sure) that it is more present now than before, unfortunately (black people were associated in the popular mind of many to the brutal French Legionaire).

My mother speaks berber, arabic and french (the last two since she went to school) but some special type of arabic and french lol

Voilà!

In ancient times in all of Africa you could find something similar. If you are from a different tribe/ethnic group then you are a stranger regardless of what the person looked like. White, Black or otherwise

For those of you who care about real science and not some "Afrocentric" delusion, take the time to read the genetic study below

The "white" Berbers are very related to Saharan people and people from East Africa

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2947357/?tool=pubmed


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2947357/figure/F5/

[quote author=Kilode?! link=topic=608408.msg7777066#msg7777066 date=1298345609]I think you and Rossike are saying the same thing if y'all can just calm down and resist the urge to insult.

If a Berber and a white european mate together, won't their offspring have genetic markers from both groups? Just asking for clarification purposes.

How recent is the Barbary slave trade, say compared to transatlantic slave trade?[/quote]The Barbary slave trade took place a few hundred years ago during the same time as the Trans-Atlantic slave thread up until the 1800's. It is a very recent event and does not have much to do with what we are talking about.

The "white" berbers are African and this is proven by science. They are not a product of mixture with European slaves from 200 years ago and they are indiginous to North Africa and Their attitude towards "black" Africans is of no relevance to science

naijaking1:
For somebody who didn't care about skin color, you sound very emotional about these lies you're typing.
Every major history textbook, every Grecco-Roman classic, and even every textbook of medical history supports what ROSSIKE and tpiah have been posting, and I just can't get your point.
Do you even understand history

I honestly dont care about skin colour guy. It annoys me when I see people spouting lies


There have been different ethnicities of Berbers in North Africa, some "white" like the Kabyles and Riffs, some "black" like Tuaregs

Do some North Africans consider themselves better than blacks Absolutely! But that does not change hard facts.

People from Greece and Rome would naturally be more fascinated by their encounters in N/A with people who look unusual to them ie the blacker people thatn the whiter Berbers


We live in a modern era and Berbers are an indiginous African people. Feel free to look into it if you disagrr but no amount of american "afrocentric" nonsense is going to change that

[quote author=tpiah! link=topic=608408.msg7776997#msg7776997 date=1298343448]you and rossike arent necessarily wrong.


the situation doesnt have to be a polar one.


however, denying european input in northern africa is self defeating.[/quote]There has been "sub-saharan" and european inputs

However, the majority of Berber genetic markers are indiginous to North Africa and is not Europeans at all

By the way, the Barbary slave trade was a very recent event actually

You guys should take time to look into the issue of Berbers

those "white" people are as "African" as you. They have lived in north Africa since the begining of ages and you can research their genetic make up in relation to other Africans and in relation to Europeans. They are "white" skinned but not Europeans


stop making blind arguments

ROSSIKE:
Aristotle (384-322 B.C.E.) Greek philosopher, scientist, and tutor to Alexander the Great.
Aristotle is said to have written 150 philosophical treatises.

Here he shows that blacks were the original founders and inhabitants of Egypt.

"Too black a hue marks the coward as witness Egyptians and Ethiopians and so does also too white a complexion as you may see from women, the complexion of courage is between the two."
(Physiognomics, Vol. VI, 812a)

Aristotle makes reference to the hair form of Egyptians and Ethiopians: "Why are the Ethiopians and Egyptians bandy-legged? Is it because the bodies of living creatures become distorted by heat, like logs of wood when they become dry? The condition of their hair supports this theory; for it is curlier than that of other nations, and curliness is as it were crookedness of the hair."
(Physiognomics, Book XIV, p. 317)

You need to actually research the genetic make up of Berbers in relation to other Africans before you spout baseless american "afrocentric" diatribes