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Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by samuk: 6:51pm On Jun 03, 2018

Obalufon:
15 century is 1400 1500 they explore hinterland ,they were navigating the coastal region the late 15 century 1400 .before exploring the hinterland after they had already circum navigated Africa their main expectoration was to trade with indian if they had contacted the benin in 1484 so you were ruling Lagos 1400..when the first lagos king was in 1600 right ..you are a clone ..

You are the fool and confused one here, go and read your post again. You wrote 1500 and not 15th century, I was the one that wrote 1400s and you disputed it. Who was the king the European wrote about when they got to Lagos, provide international sources not the one written by fellow ignoramus like you.

Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by samuk: 6:21pm On Jun 03, 2018

steveosaz:
You are new that's why you are just realizing the dubiousness cum ignorance of these people. Don't waste your time doing logical analysis with them, hit them real hard if you must engage them and show no mercy. They don't deserve any. They are just history manufacturers

Honestly you guys are really trying putting up with people like these. They lack knowledge of history and refuse to learn. My little sympathy for them is because I know they have disjointed history, you have someone from Ijebu or Ekiti trying to write about Oyo history and they start contradicting themselves.

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Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by samuk: 6:14pm On Jun 03, 2018

Obalufon:
Lagos was in contact with Portuguese by Prince Henry the Navigator before benin , Portuguese heard of benin from the itskeiris i doubt if João Afonso de Aveiromade made it to benin

ouch you said 14 century ...Christopher Columbus was born Before or after 31 October 1451.. Europe made contact with Africa in the 1500s please and Benin around 1550

Vasco da Gama was born on1460 or 1469
Sines, Alentejo, Kingdom of Portugal

You are all over the place and unable to make up your mind. You manufacture your version of history on the go.

You said European didn't get to Africa till 1500, when I pointed you to the fact that they were already in Benin by 1485, you are now saying they got to Lagos before Benin, how would you know that if you didn't even know when Europeans first arrived Africa. When European got to Lagos, Lagos was under and part of Benin Kingdom, itsekiri was part of Benin Kingdom with Benin city as capital.

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Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by samuk: 5:31pm On Jun 03, 2018

Obalufon:
ouch you said 14 century ...Christopher Columbus was born Before or after 31 October 1451.. Europe made contact with Africa in the 1500s please and Benin around 1550

Vasco da Gama was born on1460 or 1469
Sines, Alentejo, Kingdom of Portugal

The first European travelers to reach Benin were Portuguese explorers in about 1485. A strong mercantile relationship developed, with the Edo trading tropical products such as ivory, peppers and palm oil with the Portuguese for European goods such as manila and guns. In the early 16th century, the Oba sent an ambassador to Lisbon, and the king of Portugal sent Christian missionaries to Benin City. Some residents of Benin City could still speak a pidgin Portuguese in the late 19th century.

The first English expedition to Benin was in 1553, and significant trading developed between England and Benin based on the export of ivory, palm oil and pepper. Visitors in the 16th and 17th centuries brought back to Europe tales of "the Great Benin", a fabulous city of noble buildings, ruled over by a powerful king. However, the Oba began to suspect Britain of larger colony designs and ceased communications with the British until the British Expedition in 1896-97 which resulted in a weakned Benin Empire.

A 17th century Dutch engraving from Olfert Dapper's Nauwkeurige Beschrijvinge der Afrikaansche Gewesten, published in Amsterdam in 1668 wrote:

The king's palace or court is a square, and is as large as the town of Haarlem and entirely surrounded by a special wall, like that which encircles the town. It is divided into many magnificent palaces, houses, and apartments of the courtiers, and comprises beautiful and long square galleries, about as large as the Exchange at Amsterdam, but one larger than another, resting on wooden pillars, from top to bottom covered with cast copper, on which are engraved the pictures of their war exploits and battles..."
—Olfert Dapper, Nauwkeurige Beschrijvinge der Afrikaansche Gewesten
Another Dutch traveller was David van Nyendael who in 1699 gave an eye-witness account.

The Legions of Benin

Copper sculpture from Benin showing the mix of weapons that co-existed side by side during the colonial era. Note firearms in the right hand of one figure, and traditional swords held by others.

The kingdom of Benin offers a snapshot of a relatively well-organized and sophisticated African polity in operation before the major European colonial interlude. Military operations relied on a well trained disciplined force. At the head of the host stood the Oba of Benin. The monarch of the realm served as supreme military commander. Beneath him were subordinate generalissimos, the Ezomo, the Iyase, and others who supervised a Metropolitan Regiment based in the capital, and a Royal Regiment made up of hand-picked warriors that also served as bodyguards. Benin's Queen Mother also retained her own regiment, the "Queen's Own." The Metropolitan and Royal regiments were relatively stable semi-permanent or permanent formations. The Village Regiments provided the bulk of the fighting force and were mobilized as needed, sending contingents of warriors upon the command of the king and his generals. Formations were broken down into sub-units under designated commanders. Foreign observers often commented favorably on Benin's discipline and organization as "better disciplined than any other Guinea nation", contrasting them with the slacker troops from the Gold Coast.

Until the introduction of guns in the 15th century, traditional weapons like the spear and bow held sway. Efforts were made to reorganize a local guild of blacksmiths in the 18th century to manufacture light firearms, but dependence on imports was still heavy. Before the coming of the gun, guilds of blacksmiths were charged with war production—–particularly swords and iron spearheads.

Benin's tactics were well organized, with preliminary plans weighed by the Oba and his sub-commanders. Logistics were organized to support missions from the usual porter forces, water transport via canoe, and requisitioning from localities the army passed through. Movement of troops via canoes was critically important in the lagoons, creeks and rivers of the Niger Delta, a key area of Benin's domination. Tactics in the field seem to have evolved over time. While the head-on clash was well known, documentation from the 18th century shows greater emphasis on avoiding continuous battle lines, and more effort to encircle an enemy (ifianyako).

Fortifications were important in the region and numerous military campaigns fought by Benin's soldiers revolved around sieges. As noted above, Benin's military earthworks are the largest of such structures in the world, and Benin's rivals also built extensively. Barring a successful assault, most sieges were resolved by a strategy of attrition, slowly cutting off and starving out the enemy fortification until it capitulated. On occasion however, European mercenaries were called on to aid with these sieges. In 1603–04 for example, European cannon helped batter and destroy the gates of a town near present-day Lagos, allowing 10,000 warriors of Benin to enter and conquer it. In payment the Europeans received one woman captive each and bundles of pepper. The example of Benin shows the genius of indigenous military systems, but also the role outside influences and new technologies brought to bear. This is a normal pattern among many nations and was to be reflected across Africa as the 19th century dawned.

The city and empire of Benin declined after 1700. By this time, European activity in the area, most notably through the Trans-Atlantic slave-trade, resulted in major disruptive repercussions. However, Benin's power was revived in the 19th century with the development of the trade in palm oil and textiles. To preserve Benin's independence, bit by bit the Oba banned the export of goods from Benin, until the trade was exclusively in palm oil.

Benin resisted signing a protectorate treaty with Britain through most of the 1880s and 1890s. However, after Benin discovered Britain's true intentions, eight unknowing British representatives, who came to visit Benin were killed. As a result a Punitive Expedition was launched in 1897. The British force, under the command of Admiral Sir Harry Rawson, razed and burned the city, destroying much of the country's treasured art and dispersing nearly all that remained. The stolen portrait figures, busts, and groups created in iron, carved ivory, and especially in brass (conventionally called the "Benin Bronzes" wink

are now displayed in museums around the world.

Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by samuk: 4:57pm On Jun 03, 2018

Obalufon:
are you moronic Christopher Columbus father had not been born yet in the 1400 century...

With this your writeup, you exposed yourself as an ignoramus and unable to learn. A simple Google search would have told you that the European arrived and wrote about Benin as far back as the year 1485 and when they arrived the Benin defensive moat was already in place. If this is your level of knowledge, then it's a complete waste of time debating you. I hope your other compatriots on these thread are not as stupid as you are, no wonder you are throwing insults all over the place, you have nothing in your brain.

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Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by samuk: 4:44pm On Jun 03, 2018

Obalufon:
read basic west Africa history atleast you will have basic knowledge of history you are talking base on sentiments nothing more .,.you are genetically backward people in comparison to yoruba race is a known fact accept it or not "the fact are out their" ..you people have beast like troublesome behavior with no cognitive capacity it shows way of life also in your ancient art work savage heads with fearsome look

...ibadan fulani war 1840 5yrs after ilorin was taken by the Muslim yorubas with the help of fulanis scholars oyo lost it prestigious northern city ilorin without cavalry northern garrison oyo is useless, after their victory capturing ilorin they tried to expand their territory over other cities in yoruba..Ibadan smoked them out with punitive fire of guns at it's knife savvy swords men .if other yoruba nations had accepted Ibadan ruler ship they would have chased the Muslim out of ilorin.. ilorin and ekiti connive to fight Ibadan because of its growing strength and military might also to the south was incursion of egbas and ijebu were also fighting Ibadan

In my earlier submission I stated that Yoruba as a nation is a modern day contraption, if not why else will Ilorin and Ekiti connive to fight and reject Ibadan leadership of the Yoruba race. If these people shared a common heritage there shouldn't have been problem accepting Ibadan, instead Ilorin and Ekiti connive with the Muslims to fight Ibadan according to you. You just prove my point that you were all different tribes fighting and killing each others until politicians and politics brought you together.

Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by samuk: 1:20pm On Jun 03, 2018*

Olu317:
It was Edo revisionism that made it messy . It became imperative not to ignore the lies being peddled everywhere online and almost turning to seemingly acceptable by readers, who don't have knowledge of Bini and Yoruba linked history. The truth is that ,Yoruba wouldn't have had anything to do with Igodomigodo, if it wasn't the Uzamas, that went to ILE IFE to ask for help ,so that Udo, won't be ungovernable. Udo,account did mentioned that the last administrator,who was linked to Ogiamein, wanted his son to take over the ruling of Udo but the groups that formed Edo refused,which was the reason, the Uzamas seek help from ILE IFE. This happened after, Owodo had died and Ekerlehadan chased to Ughotan,simply because, the kingly pattern in Edo wasn't based on dynasty at first but Owodo ancestor had about five–eight lineage that ruled before Ekerheladan was banished(Dmitri Bondarenko, Connah et al ) and thereafter ,help was seek from a dynasty that was organized under a king that had Kings kings under him. Secondly, Oranmiyan's father wasn't on the throne ,when Uzamas visited ILE IFE to ask for help,which simply mean the people that fabled a story of seeing Ooni Olofin( Odua) ,was a big fat lie. Thirdly, The ritual for a king to ascend to the throne as a King are different and some words spoken were different from Yoruba dynasty. This simply showed, Yoruba are different from Udo people. Researches have been done by Jacob U. Egharevba,Ryder, Roese, Dmitri Bondarenko,connah,Ryder,shaw etc ,so need to do any more research again as regard, where the Oba Bini came from.Even, the issue of warring amongst Yorubas was always based on princes,who decided most time to set up a kingdom of his based on population. Again, some set up states that was helped to attain self glory who decides to back down on agreement also do lead to fracas,land do lead to fracas,amongst Yorubas. If you are conversant with Yoruba history, no group of IFE wearing princes that set up a kingdom that Oyo attacked, but instead,make them an ally. Kwarafas were the people Oyo fought for many years. And when Dahomey had problem with Asanté , Ketou/Ketu was the Yoruba group that was the link that made Yoruba Oyo to fight Asanté and defeated them in war. And Ibadan was the only reason Yoruba went to civil war because she tried to destroy, what had been built by Yoruba ancestors to sustain themselves. And I have stated here isn't native to Yoruba alone,because every ethnic group has such.

My question still remains, Why will Igodomigodo go to Ife to ask for a Prince to become their king if they shared nothing in common and reject their own Ogiame for a total stranger, and then do so much to ensure that the stranger and his descendants succeded, don't forget that it was not till the 4th generation of kings from Oba Eweka 1 and during the reigns of Oba Ewedo were the Ogiame defeated, Oranmiyan could only take the heat of Igodomigodo for 3 months before he left in anger to Oyo. Oranmiyan did not come with or leave behind a standing army in Igodomigodo to protect this pregnant wife and son when he was born, the protection was done by the Benin people themselves and 3 months was too little for Oranmiyan to have established any lasting legacy, the Benin themselves built the monarchical system of progenitor (father to son) that has endured to this day, it is very simplicit to say Ife had nothing to do with Igodomigodo before Oranmiyan was sent for. Notice I didn't use the word Yoruba because Yoruba is a modern day political contraption by Samuel Ajayi Crowder, Awolowo etc. Today, most of all the important kings in Yoruba land are politically appointed. Early leaders of western Nigeria tried to unite all the different tribes under the former Oyo kingdom and name it Yoruba, don't forget Midwest was also looped up in this arrangement but the monarchical system in Midwest was far too established for politicians to be appointing their kings and they opted out after just 3 years. Today the war of supremacy amongst Yoruba Obas is still on from this political arraignment, there are those that believe Alafin is superior to the Ooni whilst others believe otherwise, there are footages of the Oba of Lagos referring to the Oba of Benin as his father and even refusing to have a hand shake with the Ooni. The Awajale of Ijebu was once quoted to have referred to the Ooni as a son of the slave who later became Ododuwa chief priest and not one of the descendant of Ododuwa and refuses to recognised his superiority. There are others such as the Oba who owns Obats oil who also dont recognises the Ooni's supremacy. There is no monarch in the old Midwest (Edo and Delta) today that will question the supremacy of the Oba of Benin. The truth is there was a connection between old Ife and Igodomigodo. It's very difficult to see any people who will invite a total stranger to come and rule over them and then fight several wars amongst themselves losing lives for 4 generations to protect the stranger's interest. If you have example, please let me know of such people that claim such history.

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Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by samuk: 11:01am On Jun 03, 2018

BabaRamota1980:
EXACTLY!!!

Who better than them to know?

All these people will say one by one that they came from Bini and Bini came from Ife.

If Yoruba people actually believe your writeup above, why are you strenuously trying to denigrate the globally acclaimed and acknowledged exploits of the Benin Kingdom? Why not join others and celebrate it as one of yours and there should really be no need for what looks like jealousy on your part, your reaction should have just been okay whatever we are all the same people anyway so no beef, but no you are trying so much to belittle the same people you claimed to have given birth to. If really Yoruba gave birth to Benin civilisation, why begrudge her, it's every parents wish for their children to achieve greater heights than them. The only reason you refused to acknowledge Benin greatness is because you know there was no way a conservative Benin who does not even honour a no native with a chieftaincy title will then willingly invite a Prince they have no connection whatsoever with to come and become their king. What you guys should concentrate your research on is what was the nature of the connection between early Ife and Igodomigodo. It's also obvious that all entities that made up the Yoruba nation today were once in the past viewed as different people, otherwise there wouldn't have been so much war between them. You never hear or read that Benin attacked Ife and Oyo and the itsekiris and the Uhrobos because these people where all seen has people that shared same heritage with Benin from the days of Igodomigodo. Why where there so much war between the so called Yoruba people in the past and why was there so much wars Benin and eastern Yoruba and the establishment of the Lagos monarchy? And no Benin invasion of Oyo or Ife. If truth be told the earliest the word Yoruba enter the global lexicon was in the 1800s thanks to Bishop Ajayi Crowder who is the father of modern Yoruba, in contrast the name Benin has been in global lexicon and European writeups as early as the 1400s.

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Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by samuk: 5:47pm On May 29, 2018

Moorish:
My brothers who mentioned the Igbo

The igbo are a holy people

The igbo and yoruba were taken in chains as slaves as predicted by the most high in deuteronomy

Have you ever heard of any black american or carribean person claiming benin descent??

Benin people are not from the most high God

We are hebrews and we need to stick to our brothers only

know your enemies my people

The fulani are also a hebrew tribe

They are our brethren

Our king defeated the italians (Mussolini) in the battle of adowa 2

The only african country not colonized

Ethiopia

King Haille Selassie Qadamawi Most high of israel

Benin are a gentile nation, people who sacrifice human beings

Come out of her my people

So who enslaved the Yoruba and Igbo? Please don't tell me it was Benin.

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Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by samuk: 10:43pm On May 23, 2018*

BabaRamota1980:
Are you people even aware that at one time you were raided by Arochukwus,...... Ibos? This was before Ife came to your rescue.

Are you aware of this? You want see the history?

Benin was never raided as claimed by you in fact must part of Igbo land was also under the Benin Empire. I mean must part of Igbo land from Anambra to Abia. Below is how a native of present day Abia State described his origin in 1745.

Olaudah Equiano was born in Essaka, an Igbo village in the kingdom of Benin (now Nigeria) in 1745. His father was one of the province's elders who decided disputes. According to James Walvin "Equiano described his father as a local Igbo eminence and slave owner".

In case you don't know who Olaudah Equiano was, he was the first black person to write his autobiography. Google him for more information about him.

Culture › Re: Nigerian Man Visits British Museum, Spots Stolen Benin Kingdom Artifacts. Photos by samuk: 12:40pm On May 20, 2018

Xisnin:
They weren't stolen, they were war booties and with all booties, the winner takes all.
If taken war booties was a crime then Benin kingdom is guilty for taking same from their
weaker neighbours while also imposing permanent levies on them.

This your logic caught my attention. Just imagine what Benin will have to pay back to Lagos, Ekitis, Owo, Akure, Delta State, Onitsha, Abia State, Anambra up to Ida, Kogi and Benue State, Ikwere in Rivers and part of Cross Rivers that they once subjugated and collected levies from.

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Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by samuk: 12:28pm On May 20, 2018

Moorish:
There are no written accounts from any independent African and non African sources on any official tributary state of the Benin kingdom

Show me any Wikipedia or any more respected source which names any Benin tributary state

Benin people you cannot do it

Oyo had many tributary states as verified by the conquered, African and European sources

Benin in a delusion about their kingdom

In terms of greatness, the only place in the whole of south sahara African that was fit enough to be described as a City when the European arrived in the 15th century was Benin. Benin did not name herself a City but the Europeans did. Don't forget they visited the whole of Africa, they also name a section of the ocean running through the west coast of Africa ( the bight of Benin) after Benin for her greatness, this is where Republic of Benin took her name. Today as a reminder of Benin Empire's greatness, a huge body of international water (bight of Benin) was named after her by European cartographers, a whole country where some of the inhabitants speak Yoruba (Republic of Benin) bears her name, Republic of Benin had the options of naming herself the Republic of Oduduwa or Republic of Oyo but choose Republic of Benin instead. What about Benin arts in most major museums in the world, from Europe to America to Canada to Australia. Benin Empire was the first to exchange ambassador with a European country in the 16th century even before any of the present countries that made up the Africa continent was put together as nations by the Europeans. The lists goes on and on but I will pulse here for now and over to you to point to the independently verifiable evidence that made Oyo even a kingdom let alone great and mind you all I have written was confirmed independently by the Europeans and not some Benin Historians and these evidence can still be verified today.

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Culture › Re: Ooni Of Ife Visits Ogiame Ikenwoli, The Olu Of Warri by samuk: 8:49am On May 20, 2018*

geosegun:
Thanks for clarification, everyone knows the Benin is first in terms of age compare to Oyo but not in terms of greatness and exploits. There is the Benin Kingdom and the Oyo empire and Ife is the source. That's the truth. I appreciate your understanding.

Now that we have settled the issue of seniority and you have raised the issue of greatness, lets look at greatness. In terms of greatness, the only place in the whole of south sahara African that was fit enough to be described as a City when the European arrived in the 15th century was Benin. Benin did not name herself a City but the Europeans did. Don't forget they visited the whole of Africa, they also name a section of the ocean running through the west coast of Africa ( the bight of Benin) after Benin for her greatness, this is where Republic of Benin took her name. Today as a reminder of Benin Empire's greatness, a huge body of international water (bight of Benin) was named after her by European cartographers, a whole country where some of the inhabitants speak Yoruba (Republic of Benin) bears her name, Republic of Benin had the options of naming herself the Republic of Oduduwa or Republic of Oyo but choose Republic of Benin instead. What about Benin arts in most major museums in the world, from Europe to America to Canada to Australia. Benin Empire was the first to exchange ambassador with a European country in the 16th century even before any of the present countries that made up the Africa continent was put together as nations by the Europeans. The lists goes on and on but I will pulse here for now and over to you to point to the independently verifiable evidence that made Oyo even a kingdom let alone great and mind you all I have written was confirmed independently by the Europeans and not some Benin Historians and these evidence can still be verified today.

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Culture › Re: The Benin-ife Historical Link: Matters Arising by samuk: 8:49am On May 18, 2018

Very lucid

Culture › Re: Ooni Of Ife Visits Ogiame Ikenwoli, The Olu Of Warri by samuk: 6:51pm On May 17, 2018

geosegun:
You are the one that lack logic. You are comparing Oyo Empire that he ruled (as a full grown adult) for several years to a place (ile ibinu-that was reduced to nothing due to internal conflict) he spent few years and left for a little kid to take over when he was of age?
I am not ready to argue with you. You can never change history. We love the Benin as much as we love every other city. The royal is a scion of Ife and hence we will always support one another no matter what. Blood is thicker than water Bro. There is a Yoruba adage that says, Bi Omode ba ni aso bi agba, ko le ni akisa, be agba.(If a child has new clothes as as much as the elder, he can never have rags as much as the elder. That's food for. Thought.

You did not answer any of my questions, but said you didn't want to argue with me. I didn't asked for argument, I only asked two simple questions. Anyway the love you showed is acknowledge and reciprocated, it's the attitude of some of you Yoruba that call for these type of debate. You know the truth and for sake of dragging seniority you refuse to acknowledge it. My question to you is if you built a house which is your first house and leave your first son and heir to manage the house and then go elsewhere and built another house and have another son who took over the second house after you are no more, who is the senior amongst your two children, this answer should be simple enough shouldn't it?

Culture › Re: Ooni Of Ife Visits Ogiame Ikenwoli, The Olu Of Warri by samuk: 8:51am On May 17, 2018

geosegun:
How can you write that Oba Eweka(son) is greater than his father (oranmiyan)? This shows how daft and bitter some of you are... We know the truth and stop deceiving youhrselves.

I think you lack comprehension and i will try and break it down to you in primary school level.
1. All agreed that Oranmiyan first came to Benin and he is the father of Oba Eweka 1 who was his first child, son and most senior of all his children.
2. Let also agree with you Yoruba people for the sake of this write up that Oranmiyan founded Benin and left his first son to rule over it as his first empire.
3. All agreed that Oranmiyan left Benin to found the Oyo dynasty which was his number 2 empire, Benin being the first. Oranmiyan also had a second child, son who became the Alafin of Oyo

Questions:
1.Between Benin and Oyo empires which is the oldest founded by Oranmiyan?
2. Between Eweka 1 and the Alafin who is the eldest, oldest and most senior son of Oranmiyan?

Culture › Re: Ooni Of Ife Visits Ogiame Ikenwoli, The Olu Of Warri by samuk: 6:55am On May 17, 2018

Olu317:
I cant believe what you showcase up there! Is this how Igodomigodo people are like? All your claim have been trampled upon with facts and not opinion . There were many record of Yoruba activities even up to Songhai Empire/Mahlia Empire. Were you,(Edos), not still worshiping Ooni sculpture as if he was God in 13th–14th ,and all through to 18th century? Have you not seen the sculpture of Ooni that was dug out at the heart of Oba palace? It is shameful to see Yoruba renamed Igodomigodo with pride to Ulè Ubinu /Ilè Ibinu/Ilè Bini/Bini.Just check how Yorubas has subjugated your domain as a distinct people as you are with AkA identity to becoming a Yoruba enclave? If indeed, you appreciate your Igodomigodo as your pride and Ogiso as your king from the Sky, then change back to the name of your real ancestor to show forth Aka's strength......

There were no such people called Yoruba, or a place called Yoruba land when Benin land was called Igodomigodo. What will have today as Yoruba are different people coming together to form Yoruba (a conglomerate of different tribes)...Ask the Awujale of Ijebu Ode for more information if you don't know. When you claim Yoruba subjugated Igodomigodo, which of the different entities that made up later day Yoruba did the subjugation? Was it Ife that never had an army? Was it the Alafin of Oyo that only came to be after orumiyan left Benin to create the dynasty and far junior to Oba Eweka of Benin let alone Igodomigodo? Or is it Lagos whose monarch, a product of Benin that subjugated Igodomigodo and renamed her Benin, please answer these questions without insults.

Culture › Re: Ooni Of Ife Visits Ogiame Ikenwoli, The Olu Of Warri by samuk: 9:16pm On May 16, 2018

If you guys want to learn then stop the insults.

Culture › Re: Ooni Of Ife Visits Ogiame Ikenwoli, The Olu Of Warri by samuk: 9:15pm On May 16, 2018

If you are arguing after all the facts then there is problem

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Culture › Re: Ooni Of Ife Visits Ogiame Ikenwoli, The Olu Of Warri by samuk: 7:56pm On May 16, 2018

BabaRamota1980:
I dont want to hear from you.

Bring that guy samuk here to talk. Thats the only sensible Edoman here. He already said Ogiso Ekaladheran was banished. He needs to finish the story.

oyalunasamuel:
1). Their story of kingship began with an Edo prince
called Izoduwa as recorded by unimpeachable
historical records and corroborated by Benin recorded
History.

(2). Ayayi Crowder,a recaptured Yoruba Slave who
later became a bishop said, little were know about
yoruba existence, clearly meaning they were not
originally part of the Nigeria of today and neither
were they settlers within its geographical boundaries
but were in small settlements close to Dahomey. Most
Yorubas today are either Muslims or Christians and
those with African traditions copied or got them from
Benin civilization. It doubtful if they are not
immigrants from dahomy mixed with Benins or other
fulani-hausa from Niger . Bishop Samuel Adjayi
Crowther (c. 1809 – 31 December 1891) Was the first
African Anglican bishop in Nigeria. Born in Osogun (in
today's Iseyin Local Government, Oyo State, Nigeria).
His grandson was Herbert Macaulay

(3). Yoruba have dublicity of kingships with the process
highly polarized than being traditional.A system they
tried to copy from Benin but have not been able to get
right like the Benin Kingdom. Edo Obaship is one of the
most revered institutions in the world because of the
way it has sustained its awesome prestige with strict
and meticulous attention to ancient traditions of
valour, discipline and integrity. Edo chieftaincy titles
cannot be bought or conferred on non-indigenes or
frivolously. Every Edo chief performs a peculiarly
sacred duty and responsibility to the people of Edo. It
does not make sense, therefore, to think that a people
who would not and have never conferred their
chieftaincy titles on non-indigenes, would voluntarily
invite, accept, or surrender to non-indigenes as their
kings. Note that due to celestial and customary
taboos,the Edo monarch cannot eat out and cannot be
diverted from full time palace duties to hustle things
that have no beneficial value to his domain.

(4). Most traditional religions being practiced by the
Yorubas today are of Benin Origins.Olokun, Ogun, Iha
oguega(ifa), oronmila, Esago(shango), Ayelala
etc.Benin traditions,mystic and spirituality are
stillfully documented and yorubanized by Yorubas in
positions of affluence. Edo people today are
predominantly Christians with some denying their
traditional religious origins. But,it has not been
possible to exterminate our traditional practice
because it is embedded firmly in our ways of life.
Although the Great Edo (Benin) Kingdom was not
major participant in the trans-Atlantic slave trade,
because the Obas (Kings) believed that their subjects
were too valuable to sell away, and their noblemen
had need of war captives on their own farms, the
influence of Edo religion and medicine have still been
substantial on the people of the Americas.
According to Mason (1996), it has been widely
accepted that Olokun (god of the sea) worship
originated with the Edos and spread to the Yoruba
(p.2). In fact, the most prominent part of Edo
cultural traditions that has made its mark in the New
World is Olokun worship. Olokun (god of the Waters,
known as Osiris in Egypt) worship originated from
Urhonigbe and then became prominent at
Ughoton,around the Ethiope (Olokun) River. The
priesthood and rituals were firmly established at the
time. Some of the possible points of contact happened
early. During the Ogiso Period, trade with the Yoruba
and Igbos was quite extensive. Olokun worship may
have spread to those areas through traders. Prior to
the Oba Period,Ekaladerhan Izoduwa was initiated
into Olokun as a chief Priest while he stayed at
Ughoton, before his moving westward with his followers
to establish Ilefe (Ero,1999,p.108-109).
Once he arrived, Ekaladerhan Izoduwa brought Edo
traditions to those areas and was a King of his new
community called Ilefe, which could be what yoruba
call IFE. . From Ekaladerhan Izoduwa’s loins, the
Yoruba dynasties may have began. However, it is
certain that Olokun is an Edo divinity whose worship
spread to the outlying Yoruba areas. During the trans-
Atlantic slave trade, slave raids were launched upon
Yoruba and Ibo territories. Europeans were able to
obtain some of the greatest amounts of West Africans
from both Yoruba and Ibo land (Crosby,1992, p.136).
In the 18th century in Iboland at Isseke, slave
raiders took a famous Edo subject named Olaudah
Equiano, who later wrote about the encounter. Olaudah
traveled to the New World and then to England,
learned to read and write English, and shared his
religious and cultural experiences.
Many Edo traditions were directly and indirectly
incorporated into the New World through its far
reaching colonies. The Edo Kingdom extended from the
boundary with Oyo in the north (Otun) to the Atlantic
in the south, beyond Asaba to River Niger, and up to
Eko (Lagos) in the west. Both Edo religion and
medicine have already been taken to those domains,
following traditional practices originating in Edo land.

(5). Benin ruled over what today known as
Yorubaland, IFE, EKITI, LAGOS, OGUN, OWO, ONDO ETC

(6). Benin through Oba Orhogbuan founded lagos and
ruled Lagos through royal viceroys whose descendants
are today the traditional rulers of Lagos.The rights of
who owns Lagos is not disputable.Lagos was a Benin
town with a Benin Duke who paid tribute to the Oba of
Benin indeed his chiefs were the descendants of noble
Benin families. The Benin empire ran Lagos for over
400 years before the colonial powers took over.
Though there were some migrant yorubas from togo
during british presence in lagos, but they formed not
the rulers of the town but the subjects of the Oba just
like we find in the United Kingdom today where people
are subjects of the queen of England and not citizens.
We will explain citizenship rights to you later in
another treatise.

(7). Benin first to meet Europeans
( . "Oba" is a word adopted from Benin and not
Yoruba as many made us to believe. There is no king of
Yoruba's people. and if there is, what was his
title?;how many Yoruba prominent traditional
leaders/rulers carried the title Oba? since when?.if
Yoruba calls their king Oba,it doesn't mean we derived
our king's name (N'Oba) from them. Everyone has a
name for king in the their native language/tongue.
The Oba of Lagos is Eleko of Eko not Oba, the British
change it to Oba. the Origin of word "oba" is Benin

(9). They never conquered any territory but rather
struggle with their neighbours before and after the
first encounter with Europeans slave hunters.

(10). "Edo" have no linguistic relationship with
Yoruba. Words like Eko,Idu
Ganran,Yaba,Oshodi,Osa,Eti-Osa,idu-magbo,Idu-
mota have no Yoruba origin but Edo's.

(11). Note history is subject to scientific diagnosis and
many historic writtings in the past about Benin-yoruba
have been proved by archaeologies and scientist as
erroneous and false.

(12). Many Yoruba being those in the forefront of
Nigeria history writers wrote history textbooks used in
Nigeria institutions and thus had the benefit of
making their yoruba look like leading culture with the
richest history for nigerians.

(13). Yorubas exploiting their privilege of imbibing the
whiteman's education first have been peddling
falsehood in Nigeria,British and other western
universities misleading Africans with grammar and
academic titles. They confuse other external scholars
about the true realities of African history, implanting
those false history into African -America books
without the knowledge of the Edo King.

(14). Yorubas engaged the highest in slave raiding in
their togo-oyo region which stretched to lagos during
slave trade. see http://ihuanedo.ning.com/ …/to…/
yoruba-enslavement-of-african

(15) Yoruba never colonized Benin but Benin colonized
many Yoruba settlements.

(16) Yoruba is not in anyway related to Igbo ancestral
history

(17) Yoruba was not in anyway related to itsekiri
history. There could be later migrants during the
European exploration and commerce but not related to
the itsekiri ancestral lineage. Never mind all the title
of "Olu" in the region,it is a title contrived to replace
the original which is "Ode" of Itsekiris.

(18) Bishop Ajayi crowder and Obafemi Awolowo made
Yoruba known today as an ethnic group in Nigeria

(19) How can an Empire be inside an Empire? Many so
called yoruba territories of today never existed in the
past but were invented and stillfully documented into
dubious historical records.

(20) Most of their books and publications are mere
opinions of the writers concocted inside their rooms
without scientific researches or facts-finding visits to
Ancient Benin for archaeological veracity. Covered up
with self hate, jealousy and envy of the Great Benin,
bias and leftish in many of their so called Nigerian
history,they tried to re-invent a history that
diminishes our political greatness.

(22) Many Yorubas in Lagos today came as migrant
workers for British companies and their construction
projects.That is why you have a lot of their
photographs with whites. Britain also used them as
colonial officers.

(23) Before Britain or before the punitive expedition
of 1897, Yorubas have no mega state to be found as
the recognized major ethnic group in lagos were Edos.

(24) Where is Yoruba ancient flag or before 1897?
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Re: 50 Reasons Why Yoruba Never Had An Empire But
Civilized By Benin by thekingisback : 10:30pm On Feb 09
(25) Their loyalty to slave masters, British merchant
gave them the huge presence in lagos, Americas and
England

(26) The word Yoruba has it's roots in Yoruba.The
fulani used to call the Oyo people Yoruba.There was no
really united Yoruba nation till awolowo came with a
cooked up Oduduwa myth with the intention of uniting
them under them with advent of Egbe omo Oduduwa
clearly for political mileage.The ones that came to the
Americas were identified as lucumi which is corrupted
from olukumi.

(27) The Ooni of Ife,the Alake of Abeokuta ( Egba),
the Olubadan of Ibadan,the Oba of Oshogbo, the Deji
of Akure,the Oba of Lagos,the Ugbo of Ugboland,the
Owu of Owo etc have no historical records that they
were ever ruled by an empire with such name.
Rather,the Oba of Lagos,the Deji of Akure and all the
traditional rulers in present day ondo and Ekiti states
have indubitable records that they were once part of
the old Benin empire.

(28) The capital of the fathom Oyo empire is alleged to
be Oyo-Ile. This is a community that is not as big as
Uromi township. It is smaller than many headquarters
of south western city states currently existing. It is not
as big as Eyaen in Benin city. How come the capital of
such great empire ( sic!) is so small and a far cry
from any that is known in history? The false historians
failed woefully to cover this jigsaw puzzle.

(29) The Kingdom of Nupe was an acephalous
community but in the 17th century,it sacked Oyo .
Evicted it from Borgu and made it to relocate its
capital to OYO Igoho, another hamlet community that
can never qualify as capital of a dukedom let alone
an empire. Now, most of the communities of Nupe were
tribute payers to the Benin empire and never Benin
conquerors.

(30) It is on incontrovertible record that,the
colonialist never met an empire called Oyo when they
came to Nigeria but they did meet the Benin Empire in
all her glory having Suzerainty over many Yoruba
speaking city states like
Lagos,Akure,Ado,Idoani,Ondo,Igbokoda,Owo,Ifon,Ekiti,
etc. infact, it is the admission of the fact by many of
these coastal states that their overlord is the Oba of
Benin that led to the European interest to visit the
Oba and settle supremacy once and for all. Oba
Ovoramwen Nogbaisi was the one they eventually
clashed with. Recall that as early as the 14th century,
the Oba of Benin has had positive and co-equals
interactions with the Portuguese Empire.

(31) Look closely at the map in pix one hereto. That is
the colonial Map of Benin. It is less than half of what
it was before the whiteman came. Still at that, it shows
the whole of the current Midwest,nearly the whole
western states including the whole Lagos, some eastern
states and north central communities as part of the
empire of Benin they met. Now, tell me, where is the
geo-political delineation of the mythical oyo empire
created by Ola Biola,Olatun Bonsun et al?

(32) How come Oyo-Ile the capital of the contrived
OYO is today not the most important city in
Yorubaland as Benin city is in Edo. Many old cities
that survive still remain the seats of governments.
Sokoto,Benin city etc. but the alleged Capital of old
oyo hardly ranks as a local government headquarters.
This is not consistent with the Yoruba nature which
accords much respect to traditional authority and
culture. The explanation is simple. There never was
such an empire with such a small community as capital
city. The proud Yoruba man can never accept such
scandal. The capital of their city states like
Ibadan,Abeokuta etc is enough to take care of their
territorial pride,not the scandalous hamlet of OYO-
Ile.

(33) Do you know that there is hardly a Yoruba
community except the much mentioned Oyo-Ile,that
has no exclusive language of its own that is not Yoruba.
These various Yoruba languages are mutually
unintelligible to each other. The current general
Yoruba evolved from markets that was then mainly
that of slave trading.

(34) Now, unlike the Benins and most indigenous
Nigerian kingdoms,the Yorubas have the most exported
slaves in diaspora. They are very many in the
Caribbeans and in Brazil. Do you know why? This is
because,it is easy to sell people who are not from the
same stork with you.except for criminals,Benin and
other kingdoms do not sell their citizens. This again
clearly show that a monolithic oyo empire was a lie. The
Yorubas had warring and hostile city states and were
never united under one pre-colonial power. Chief
Awolowo was once rejected by them at the polls as
Ijebu( fake) Yoruba. Ironically, it was the same man
that came out with the concept and in fact united
them as one common political people. That is why they
worship him second only to Oduduwa.

(35) Do you know that even their historians admitted
the truth in their text books that Oramiyan after
leaving Benin founded OYO empire. It is very obvious
that Benin is older by far than the fathom Oyo Empire.
What is however curious is that, if Ajaka,Shango,Ogun
all later children of Oramiyan were deified to be
worshipped by the Yorubas, how come Oramiyan's
eldest son ( Eweka) who established the most powerful
dynasty on earth was not included in their list of
deities. This further lend weight to the argument that
the history of the Yoruba empire was all about tribal
glorification. Anyway, Oduduwa their alleged founder
was actually Prince Izoduwa ( Ekhalederan) the only
son of the last Ogiso of the first Benin dynasty-Owodo
who was banished so that his father could have other
children. This is a story for another day.

(36) It still beat me why other Africa historical states
only have Benin on their record not OYO empire.
Dahomey the alleged neighbour of old OYO recognized
Benin as not only its cradle but its main powerful
neighbour. Find this extract from Wikipedia
interesting..

(37) According to the Wikipedia article on the People’s
Republic of Benin, the new name was chosen to reflect
the Benin Empire “that had once flourished in
neighboring Nigeria.” Most sources, however, maintain
that the new name referenced not the Empire but the
Bight of Benin, the adjacent stretch of the Atlantic
Ocean. The country’s new leaders rejected the name
“Dahomey” because they considered it too ethnically
exclusive, since the old kingdom of that name had
been closely identified with the Fon people of the
coastal zone. The new name, based on physical
geography, seemed less divisive—even though the term
“Benin” ultimate derives from the former Benin
Kingdom of the Edo people in what is now Nigeria. The
capital of that state, Ubinu, gave rise to the term
“Benin City,” which was generalized to cover the entire
kingdom, and was subsequently applied to the
adjacent sea.
We have never doubted our relationship with the
Yorubas. Everything natural points to the fact that
they are our cousin. What We however disapprove is
their attempt to use their privileged premier schooling
by the whiteman to re-write history by distorting the
true one and concocting a fake one that undermines
the superiority of the old Benin empire over their city
states.

(38) Here is a beautiful example of Rigobert Bonne's
1770 decorative map of West Africa. Covers from the
Gold Coast (modern day Ghana), south around the
Bight of Benin to Gabon, Congo and Angola. Includes
the modern day countries of Ghana, Togo, Benin,
Nigeria, Cameroon, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon, Congo
and Angola. As with most maps of Africa, this map
shows excellent detail along the coast and only
speculation in the interior. Give evidence of significant
Belgian mapping activities throughout the Congo.
Names numerous African Kingdoms including Anzico,
Mujaco, Bembe, Lubolo, Pemba, Dembi, Calbongo,
Bake-Bake, Benin and others. Attempts to map the
Niger River as to flows into the Desert de Seth or
Saghara, but most of this cartography is speculative at
best. Drawn by R. Bonne in 1770 for issue as plate no.
B 30 in Jean Lattre's 1776 issue of the Atlas Moderne
." here there was no mention of any empire or people
called yoruba or oyo empire
Source: http://commons.wikimedia.org/ …/
File:1770_Bonne_Map_of_West_…

Culture › Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by samuk(op): 10:52am On May 16, 2018

STOP PROMOTING IGBO CULTURE, SAYS DEIN OF AGBOR
The Dein of Agbor Kingdom, His Royal Majesty Dr. Benjamin Ikenchukwu Keagborekuzi I, has enjoined his subjects to stop promoting Igbo culture, describing the Agbor culture as ‘unique and peculiar’.

IMG_9531 STOP PROMOTING IGBO CULTURE, SAYS DEIN OF AGBOR

The Dein gave the admonition at his palace recently while giving his royal blessings to the new Iregwa of Ogbemudien Community, Pa. Bogi Abagi. He called on the good people of Agbor Kingdom to join hands with him to effect the changes he desires to be in place. According to him, “I am back and happy to be in the midst of my subjects. This kind of gathering gives me joy because it is an opportunity for me to learn more from my people. There is room for change, therefore my wish and desire for my subjects is that they adopt and respect every change that is being made. Going through the history of Agbor Kingdom, one will thank the gods for wisdom. Thus, everyone will join hands with me to reposition things the way they ought to be in order to restore our lost glory”.

He called on all Agbor indigenes to preserve Agbor culture and stop promoting Igbo culture. His words, “stop giving our children Igbo names. The native names given to our children should be pronounced and written in Agbor language and not in Igbo or Ika language as Agbor has its own unique language. The Igbo red cap should also be dropped as it is not a native cap for Agbor Kingdom. Soon, I will start driving away my palace chiefs who are fond of coming to the palace, wearing in red caps. Agbor traditions should be respected and preserved for future generations. Parents and the elderly should teach our children and the youths the culture of Agbor”.

The Odion of Agbor Kingdom, Chief Julius Ochei who led the new Iregwa and the people of Ogbemudien to the Dein’s Palace for blessing, said the Iregwa title goes to the oldest man in Ogbemudien Community, stating that it is the turn of Pa. John Bogi Abagi who is 89 years and the oldest man. The Iregwa, according to Chief Ochie is the traditional head of Ogbemudein Community in Agbor Kingdom.

In a chat with Ika Weekly Newspaper Reporter, the Chairman of Ogbemudien Community, Hon. Simon Okpali lauded the Dein for his wealth of knowledge and prayed the good Lord to empower him. He expressed his confidence in the new Iregwa of Ogbemudien to lead well and thanked the Dein for his blessings.

Julius Ehiabor, the Onu-otu of Ogbemudein Community, on his part, said Pa. Abagi leadership is good and that the good people of Ogbemudien Community are happy. He prayed God to give the new Iregwa good health and long life.

Mr. Johnbull Okwuogori Aghaulor felicitating with the Iregwa, appealed to him to continue to lead them in truth. He prayed God to bless the Dein of Agbor, the Iregwa, Ogbemudein Community and Agbor Kingdom.

Responding, Pa. Abagi thanked the Dein, saying that his joy knows no bounds, while soliciting for the cooperation of every son and daughter of Ogbemudein Community to enable him give the Dein the needed support to move Agbor Kingdom forward.

PATRICK GBUCHANYE

As posted on Ika weekly web site

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Culture › Re: Ooni Of Ife Visits Ogiame Ikenwoli, The Olu Of Warri by samuk: 8:02am On May 16, 2018

Moneywomen17:
my guy answer this question why was it that before u had any contact with ife u use ogiso(sky king) but the moment an ife prince came to ur town coincidentally u started using oba. Out of all edoid language etsako people use Ogie as king uhrobo use Ovie even itsekiri that has a Benin ruler also use ogiame which apparently means king of the water so why does edo use oba to refer to king

It's actually the other way round. The last of the Ogiso(Sky King) suddenly appears in Ife after being banished from Benin, and told the people he met that he was the son of the "Sky God"(which literally means Ogiso in Benin) and they interpreted it as he fell from the Sky hence the claim that the Ooni came from the Sky. Unfortunately for you latter day revisionists, Benin as a civilisation and culture is too well documented not just in arts but by early European who kept a long archive, so no amount of revisionist can alter it, keep trying and wasting your time.

Jobs/Vacancies › Re: Edo State Civil Service Commission Massive Job Recruitment (37 Positions) by samuk: 6:48am On May 16, 2018

anyimontana:
U will end up oweing them...

Looking for free workers,..osho free

Lazy youth spotted

Culture › History Of The Benin Queen Represented On Festac Mask by samuk(op): 10:20am On Mar 08, 2018

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Culture › The Famous Benin, Idah War by samuk(op): 12:24pm On Mar 06, 2018

HISTORY

HOW IMAGUERO'S OBSESSION WITH EXPENSIVE CORAL BEADS LED TO THE FAMOUS IDAH WAR OF BENIN

During the reign of Oba Ẹsigie around 1504, there was a prominent Chief called Oliha.

Chief Oliha had an addiction...
It was the woman at the centre of his world.

Many understood why he loved and adored his wife to a dangerous level; she was easy on the eyes.

Her name was Imaguero. She was very famous for her beauty and Chief Oliha felt very lucky to own such a breathtaking female.

Whenever he showed up at the palace, he would brag to anyone who cared to listen about the faithfulness of his precious Imaguero. According to Chief Oliha, this rare beauty was the kindest, most faithful woman in Benin.

His fellow elites were more impressed than amused. Some secretly envied him and wished they had a woman that could compete with Oliha's jewel of inestimable value.

As time went by, Oba Ẹsigie had some scores to settle with Chief Oliha. The king decided to hit his Chief where it mattered most.

Conniving with palace staff and some mischievous members of his cabinet, Oba Esigie set out to investigate Imaguero’s major weakness.

In no time, he discovered that she was just as vain as the next pretty woman. She loved "things". Imaguero particularly loved expensive coral beads. She couldn't get enough of them.Those close to her knew it was her worst distraction.

Oba Esigie didn't waste much time. He summoned one of his porters, an elderly lowlife commoner, a cripple for that matter, called Uke, for the errand.

The king gave him a few coral beads and agate, with strict orders to tempt Imaguero.

The porter set about his task.

The servant was able to seduce and win Imaguero, the perceived faithful wife of the proud Chief Oliha. She fell quickly, after accepting expensive, royal coral beads and agate.

The handicapped servant ravished her beautiful body to maximum satisfaction.

Having successfully carried out the mission, he returned to the king, who appreciated Uke's effort.

In the meantime, Ọba Ẹsigie patiently waited for a dramatic moment to finish with the plot.

One day when all the chiefs were assembled and conversing, as usual, Chief Oliha began to boast about his wife again.

Fascinated by Oliha's ignorance, the king summoned his disabled porter.

In front of the entire assembly of Chiefs, he instructed the porter to tell the tale of Imaguero’s successful seduction for the sake of a few coral beads and agate stones.

Everyone was shocked! Of course, they mocked Oliha for trusting a beautiful woman too much.

Humiliated that Imaguero slept with a cripple, Chief Oliha returned home in pain, shame and anger.

When he entered his matrimonial home, his emotions got the better of him. In that mood, he presented to her a symbolic pot of death. The pot of sword and poison. Consequently, he slew the love of his life.
Imaguero died a brutal death by strangulation.

Embittered by the shame, Chief Oliha decided to get even with Oba Esigie. His plan was to dethrone the king.

He knew he wouldn't get support from the king's subjects and so he instigated the Attah of Idah against the Oba, by turning both leaders against each other through disinformation

Chief Oliha informed the Attah that the Oba was preparing to wage war on Idah. In the same vein, Oba Esigie was told that the Attah was gearing up for an offensive on Edo kingdom.

The Idah war was fierce...

The war ended in the defeat of the Idahs.

The use of guns purchased from the Portuguese may have aided the crushing defeat inflicted on the Idahs. It was during the reign of Esigie that guns were introduced for the first time into the kingdom. It was to avoid a future incursion into Edo land, that
led to the establishment of garrison towns.

I know what you are thinking.
Why is history kind to Imaguero if she was an unfaithful wife?
Why was a Teacher Training College named after her?

Well, her end may as well be a reminder to us not to trust anyone totally. A reminder that there's always a price tag. A reminder of the need to stay humble and not brag about what you have just to torture others emotionally. A reminder that there are consequences for unfaithfulness.

You may share.

#EDOcation
#EDOcating
#EDOcated

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Health › Re: Bad Mouth Odour And Persistent Headache. Help! by samuk: 11:07am On Feb 23, 2018

JohnnyNY:
Eat a lot of fruits especially cucumber and water melons they help in cleaning the mouth.

Make fruit and vegetables part of your balance diet. If you are overweight then also start exercising to loose weight, drink plenty water to hydrate yourself, 8 to 12 glasses per day. What you are going through is not new. I once saw a medical programme called embarrassing body in the U.K. someone made similar complaint and She was recommended antibiotics.

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Family › Re: "I Slept With 18 Men In 30 Days" - Delta Wife Confesses At Shrine by samuk: 7:40am On Feb 17, 2018

Nwodosis:
Slept with 18 men in 30 days and made 1.5m? Why is she wasting her prostitution talent by being married?

She should go and rent a room in a red district part of town

Business › Re: Voluntary Assets And Income Declaration Scheme (VAIDS): What You Need To Know by samuk: 8:15am On Feb 16, 2018

TheKingIsHere:
Tell the politicians starting from Buhari to declare his assets first.

They cant be imposing that the ordinary people declare assets meanwhile they the politifcians hide their assets

The reason Nigeria is not working is not the absence of good laws but the laws are often targeted towards the poor masses not the well connected. The laws of the land only affect the politically connected persons when they cross their masters. The president of South Africa just resigned because his people asked him to due to his indiscretions, can that ever happen in Nigeria? Which of the Nigeria laws has been able to prosecute any of our former presidents and their families or have all of them been saints? For any law to be effective it must start to cure the ills of lawlessness and impunity from the top. Nigeria is currently being govern as a criminal enterprise.

Crime › Another Police Misbehaviour And Youths Action In Benin City by samuk(op): 10:35am On Feb 10, 2018

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Celebrities › Re: Davido Buys New Bentley Bentayga In Atlanta. Shows It Off by samuk: 9:46am On Feb 01, 2018

ShyCypher:
Even if this poisonous dart frog paid the dealer a token just to take photos or a spin (which happens alot), gullible fans will gobble it up.

Wizkid is worth billions but pays rent for a house worth 60m at most. Why not just buy the house? He bought a N100m wristwatch but lives in a rented house.

I dunno which specie of zombies are worse - Buhari's or Wizkid/Davido's.

Meanwhile Tiwa Savage has been making 100s of millions of naira yearly and she only just managed to buy her first house in December 2017. The gullibility and metal poverty afflicting Nigerians has no limit

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Politics › Re: Governor Wike Receives Ooni And Sultan, Hails Nigerian Traditional Rulers (Photo by samuk: 7:36pm On Jan 30, 2018

Alki:
Where Oba of Benin?

I wan start today fight

Sorry you won't see the Oba of Benin in such gatherings.

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Romance › Re: Another Lady Gets Rejected By Her Boyfriend After She Proposed In Lagos, Video by samuk: 10:26am On Jan 23, 2018

Mypeople2:
You are still young that is why .When you get to 37, and all your "toasters" are no longer interested , then we will know if you will not propose to those young guys

If this happens then she will have to bath with her close on.

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