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Travel › Re: General Australian student Visa Enquiries Part 2 by santity100: 9:43am On Mar 20, 2017

goodguygonebad:
I am applying for a PhD in a non AL1 university (Murdoch) and I really hope to come over with my family. I am making good progress with the application. My wife however is about getting a masters in Environmental biology and public health.

My question is, can we apply for PR for her while we are already in Australia? I am asking as it seems the environmental science guys are on the SOL & CSOL.

Thanks guys

Yes of course. You can commence with your PR stuffs while you guys are there.

In fact I know some people that got PR even before they completed their studies.

Go for it immediately.

Travel › Re: General Australian student Visa Enquiries Part 2 by santity100: 7:03pm On Mar 19, 2017

smoothvee:
I haven't started processing..

Im a B.A holder in Theatre arts

I was thinking her having strong ties with australia she might be able to pull off something. What do you think?

They can sponsor you with their company details in Australia or New Zealand.

But firstly you need to select an occupation that is related to your education and experience and gotten a positive skill assessment.

That's your best shot.

Travel › Re: General Australian student Visa Enquiries Part 2 by santity100: 1:27pm On Mar 19, 2017

smoothvee:
I hava an in-law who is an australian and Newzealandian citizen, my uncle married her 17 yrs ago.. they stayed a while in australia before coming back to Nigeria..they stay here in the same Ajah, lagos with me now buh in their own place. With 4 children.. all born in australia... i have been thinking of reaching out to the my Australian inlaw so i know how she can help my case with PR in any form...do you think their is anything ahe can do for me as a citizen?

her dad owns a house in australia nd newzealand respectively. I wana be clear nd tell her what i want with enough backed up info.

P.s we are kinda close cos she good people. Eppme oo

What stage are you on your pr ?

Have you gotten a positive skill assessment ?

What's your proposed occupation ?

Travel › Re: General Australian student Visa Enquiries Part 2 by santity100: 1:24pm On Mar 19, 2017

[quote author=Abbey1987 post=54730718][/quote]Not possible again.

You can't drop to a lower level but you can jump to phd from your msc

Politics › Re: We Did Not Reject Magu, Because Of DSS Report~Saraki, Senate President by santity100: 1:19pm On Mar 19, 2017

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Travel › Re: General Australian student Visa Enquiries Part 2 by santity100: 7:36pm On Mar 18, 2017

StarBj:
Thank you @Santity

No offer yet, but I'm positive.
I need your mail add.....God bless you

Sorry chief. All information already available here.

If you have more questions, ask so that everyone can learn and know more.

Travel › Re: General Australian student Visa Enquiries Part 2 by santity100: 6:19pm On Mar 18, 2017

StarBj:
@Santity...

I checked DIBP as adviced but I saw some contrasting things.. Assessment level is based on the passport you hold... It's now more confusing.... Please explain. God bless

Which school accepted you ?

Travel › Re: General Australian student Visa Enquiries Part 2 by santity100: 9:24am On Mar 18, 2017

WestAfrican:
Apply to a uni that offer certificate III with pathway to degree i.e certificate III in carpentry to bachelor in construction. You get two ecoe from your school and immigration will assess you under level 1.

In addition, be ready to write a very good sop to scale GTE (genuine temporary entrant) as the school will also require this before you are accepted.

Previously it could have been easier for you as the schools will readily give you admission and it is now to go face the embassy for visa but now even schools are checking to confirm your intentions before they accept you.

I always advise students check the sponsors documents you will need critically before you step into the water.

Travel › Re: General Australian student Visa Enquiries Part 2 by santity100: 11:33am On Mar 17, 2017

Kaylawesteros:
can one easily get a visa based on trades courses?

Yes of course but you will need lots of evidences on finance and your present status to scale GTE

Travel › Re: General Australian student Visa Enquiries Part 2 by santity100: 10:12am On Mar 17, 2017

StarBj:
Thank you Santity,
1)The sponsor is my blood brother and we share the same surname..

VERY GOOD FOR YOU

2) He hasn't maintained the 5million in 3months and it shows an appreciable inflow and outflow..The dom account is intact, no inflow/outflow...He intends to pay tuition from the dom account..

TO INCREASE YOUR CHANCES IT IS ALWAYS BETTER THE BALANCE IN THAT ACCOUNT IS NOT TOO LOW AT ANY POINT IN TIME

3) He's employed.

VERY GOOD AS HE CAN PROVIDE GOOD EVIDENCE AS SOURCES OF HIS INCOME

Thank You

if he is ready to pay tuition fee of 15,000 dollars, why can't you apply to AL1 schools in order to make your visa process easier and faster and you won't need sponsor documents.

Travel › Re: General Australian student Visa Enquiries Part 2 by santity100: 10:06am On Mar 17, 2017

StarBj:
Brother, please am confused...Checked DIBP, saw some stuffs about financial requirement...Brother please explain the details.
Everything don daru for my head

You don't need to show a statement of account for subclass 500. just a letter of sponsorship from your sponsor will do.

only 22 or 23 universities are on AL1 status that do not require bank statement and the schools are expensive

I am surprised that you are confused when you have all information available already regarding if you will need bank statement or not.

Please go to border.gov student visa page, there is simple form to complete that will show you the financial requirements based on your circumstances like the school name and your nationality.

Travel › Re: General Australian student Visa Enquiries Part 2 by santity100: 9:58am On Mar 17, 2017

lusen:
You don't need to show a statement of account for subclass 500. just a letter of sponsorship from your sponsor will do.

That's very wrong information you just gave.

You won't give bank statement ONLY if you apply to AL1 universities.

Travel › Re: General Australian student Visa Enquiries Part 2 by santity100: 8:30am On Mar 17, 2017

StarBj:
Good morning guys, am in a serious dilemma with the issue of sponsor...My sibling has over 5m in his account and over 15000USD in dom account...Will this be sufficient for Subclass 500 visa... I'd appreciate a candid response..God bless you all

Few points :

1) what is the relationship ? Blood ? Same surname?

2) has he maintained the same 5m in his account over the past 3 months ? Same for the dom

3) is he into business or employed ?

Travel › Re: General Australian student Visa Enquiries Part 2 by santity100: 6:17am On Mar 17, 2017

WestAfrican:
A couple months ago, somebody on this thread was shutting me down and questioning my knowledge on PR. It's good to see someone else buttress some of the points I commented herein earlier.

Hitting the 60points does not automatically qualify you for invitation. There are hundreds of thousands of Indians, Pakistani, Russians, Chinese who have same 60 points as you and edge you with wealth of experiences under their belts vying to be invited. Especially in the area of technology. Although studying in Australia may not necessarily give you an edge over someone with wealth of experience but will over someone without one and applying from external.

The immigration has quota of those to be invited each year just like with any type of visa. The quota increases or decreases according to demand.

The competition is higher when you apply via sol to csol. If your occupation is in state like Northern territory, Tasmania and South Australia, you have better chances to be invited by those States as long as you are willing to live there for 2 two years before moving on.

Don't forget there a thousands of students in Australia paying $40-65k to study with the aim of getting a PR afterwards. They have invested in Australia and will be given preference over someone from overseas without experience vying for same position.

Having said that, there is no harm giving it a go as everyone's luck differs.

No other way to say it better champ.

Maybe from next year, I doubt if anyone with 60 points and below will even be invited sef in some occupations. The competition is increasing as more people have more information.

Asians and Arabs especially chinese and indians are more aggressive than us and they have more tools and edge. Their motive is to extend their family business and have second nationality in a western world in order to have more business opportunities. They have dealt with UK and Canada in the past, now it is oz.

Most don't even pay first semester tuition fee to get student visa, they pay all 2 years fee once and most will even buy house when they land in oz to even increase chance of getting PR.

The classification of our bachelor's degree as associate degree is not helping our people to get maximum points from experience. Recently I sent email to the education dept responsible for the reasons for classifying just few 6 or 5 universities bachelor's degree as equivalent but unfortunately it will be like this for sometime.

The best is to encourage people to study more health related or skilled based courses in our technical schools instead of everyone study business administration, accounting etc. Apprenticeships and health related occupations will still always have edge irrespective of the competition for PR to Canada or Australia.

Tell your younger ones to study in our technical schools to become welder, electrician, carpenter, plumber, chef, masons, etc. They will be independent and reduce unemployment in our country and for years to come, they will always the opportunity of migrating to Canada or anywhere for PR.

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Travel › Re: General Australian student Visa Enquiries Part 2 by santity100: 5:49am On Mar 17, 2017

chibuike123:
Thanks for your prompt response, I am employed but I can't obtain leave letter from my employer. In fact a mere mention of that could result to grounds for dismissal. Please how do I address this issue.

Again you talked about reference letter, but my school didn't require it for admission so I don't have it presently. So also, how do I go about that.

Thanks again

Letter of introduction that you work with the company should also suffice. If you can't get this documents from them, your appointment letters, confirmation , ID card and other company related documents should attached.

The reference letters not really compulsory but it is just to show that your previous lecturers or previous employer can also say something about you.

As the school is AL1, you don't really need to have sleepless nights on the above.

Travel › Re: General Australian student Visa Enquiries Part 2 by santity100: 9:01pm On Mar 16, 2017

SegunWamiri:
@ Santity 100
Thanks for the information shared so far on this thread.

I guess both of us are trying to drive home the same point just that I was quite startled when you used the word "forget" about check Sol/Csol stuff but I understand you better now and by external assessment, I meant qualification and skills done by the assessing body in question as one might only have propositions but until the body itself gives a feedback, positive assessment isn't certain.

Meanwhile, I had earlier thought that once a candidate aiming for an Independent skilled Visa (189) is able to garner 60 points as long as the occupation isn't flagged and not under special conditions (190), ITA is sure. Please shed more light on this.

Cheers

It is alright mate. The most important is we are able to pass information to help people achieve their travel aims.

There are hundred thousands of immigrant in that skill select and only the highest pointers will be invited until the budgeted invitees is reached. 60 points is just the standard.

There are many people that had 60 points and they were never invited from skill select to apply till their occupation was removed the list. Same faith awaits account related occupations

They have reduced all accountants, auditors and management related occupations and ict occupations this year and presently the number of people remaining to be invited will be limited, hence the competition.

That's why you see some people travelling to study in Australia to get more points and have options of regional sponsorship and independent etc.

Or after your positive assessment and having done the English exam, you can look for registered immigration agents to help you get employer sponsorship.

Travel › Re: General Australian student Visa Enquiries Part 2 by santity100: 7:44pm On Mar 16, 2017

chibuike123:
Good day house, pls I want to clarify something. Am going for student visa 500 subclass under ssvf AL1 school. I know am not supposed to provide my sponsor's bank statements but am I required to provide my own as a means of showing home ties? Pls help me clarify this issue everyone

Nope you don't require to show any bank statement.

Mostly for postgraduate, the home ties is your current situation. Are you presently employed or doing business ? Include all employment and business evidences including introduction letters.

Also reference letter you used during admission can also be submitted for visa if it is a to whom it may concern, if not try get reference letters.

Travel › Re: General Australian student Visa Enquiries Part 2 by santity100: 9:46am On Mar 16, 2017

mctowel01:
@ santity100
You seem to know a lot about this PR. What stage are you in?

now all advice and my opinions will be here free so that folks can learn and DIY while others can contest it and we can all continue to learn more

Travel › Re: General Australian student Visa Enquiries Part 2 by santity100: 7:34am On Mar 16, 2017

[quo[b]te author=SegunWamiri post=54630948][/quote]Are you saying that he'll need 70 points for ANY ICT occupation even if he isn't after state sponsorship?

I am saying for him to have better chances of getting invited this year or soon, he needs at least 70 points irrespective of whether independent or state sponsorship because of the competition in ICT related occupation. There are many applicants in that field with high points and available slots is low.

Secondly I meant having a positive assessment does not guarantee that you will be invited to apply for PR.

Also, what is external assessment again ? The website is self explanatory and very clear. You will definitely have idea of the points you will get if you go through the points of border.gov

Applicants should even be worried about loosing points if the assessing body is taking your professional qualifications in lieu of your bachelor's degree which means all your experiences prior to professional qualifications won't be recognised, making you loose points on experience.

I have seen people with bachelor's degree in 2002 and started working in 2005 but they had professional qualifications in 2014. The assessing body started recognising their experience from 2014..

I just feel it is better people know all the options before they put their leg into it because once they start, the psychological effect of this process is crazy and if it doesn't work out it successfully, it cause depression for sometime.

Travel › Re: General Australian student Visa Enquiries Part 2 by santity100: 11:12pm On Mar 15, 2017

EmmySparky:
thanks man...this is is the kinda response i need so that i would not waste my time on a fools errand...but bro i got a diploma in geology from a university...can i apply with that cos i heard they really want geologists in thEre...plus i have close t 5 yrs experience in teaching secondary school students...i attended a part time university so i kinda worked and schooled (hustling)...so now i ended up having more experience in that area than the courses i studied in school...and in the list i saw teaching in there...but i actually don't have an Nce presently or B.ed...can i switch to this teaching line instead...

Firstly it is believed that before you can perform some jobs it is required that you have the education and knowledge which is mostly Bachelor's degree.

Any experience you have before you gain your bachelor's degree won't be recognised.

You sef know say nah bachelor in education and nce dey teach for school nah.

The earlier you know your chances the better.

Disappointments in visa applications is always bad, so earlier you know your chances the better you quickly make your decision to do stuffs that are realistic. Eye Don see with different clients and families.

Forget all those check sol/csol, once you have positive assessment you submit to skill select and you are on your way to PR. There are lots of people in skill select for more than 4 years without invitation to apply for PR.

Let's know if you have further questions.

All the best.

Travel › Re: General Australian student Visa Enquiries Part 2 by santity100: 8:51pm On Mar 15, 2017

EmmySparky:
wow thanks a lot for this piece of info...the way u passed ur info was precise and direct...my course is ict based similar to computer science..and since i finished serving last year ...bro no good job...so no years of experience...my question now is that what are the chances of a fresh graduate obtaining a pr...with little or no experience working after school

The fact is it is very slim that you will get invited for PR on ICT related occupation due to the following reasons:

1) You will need at least 70 points before you can have any chance of invitation. ICT is highly competitive and most of these Asians are highly skilled and experienced in that occupation
.
2) try to calculate your points from their website, if it is below 70, I doubt if you will be invited this year again as most occupations like accountants and ICT are already reaching ceiling. The highest pointers will get the most invites.

If you are assessed positively by the body in Australia now

1) Try to build your skill by writing all those your ccna ccnp etc, I have seen people that were sponsored by companies because of their professional qualifications.

Showcase yourself on LinkedIn and apply for sponsored jobs.

Not everyone will get invited for PR, you need very good points, it is getting competitive yearly except for health occupations.

The above is just the direct truth and no sugar coating.

Travel › Re: General Australian student Visa Enquiries Part 2 by santity100: 4:36pm On Mar 15, 2017

abass:
Waifs is actually making life difficult for me. After signifying interest in Certificate III in Individual support, they asked me for a comprehensive GTE and CV, which I actually provided a 5pages comprehensive one and still they are saying they are not convinced to grant admission that I should write another detailed GTE
My question is, which is more essay and likely to get an admission
1. B.sc background with TAFE similar course
2. Work Experience(Not B.sc Related) with TAFE similar course
3. Lucrative TAFE course dt gives route to PR

It is always an issue when someone is applying to a different program when you have different background.

Even someone that already have a bachelor's degree and wanting to study another bachelor's degree, it is same issue with this GTE.

What you are going through with the school now, you will still go through same with the embassy.

If you are later accepted to study this program, please have strong financial sponsorship and many documents to proof ties and your passion to study this program when you submit for visa.

People get visas with this certificates and diploma courses in TAFEs but you must be ready to have huge supporting documents for visa

Australia embassy is very strict and tough as the case officers are south Africans.

I might just advise you to study a different course at postgraduate level to ease your chances

Travel › Re: General Australian student Visa Enquiries Part 2 by santity100: 4:22pm On Mar 15, 2017

EmmySparky:
k man...i would check it out...and the english test for pr...is it same as the academic one...and bro how much do u think would be sufficient in getting the pr

yes same PTE academic

Assessment of your skill and education less than 1000 dollars for most bodies

English language test: maybe 50k depending

Next payment will be when you are invited to apply for pr, the visa fee varies depending on number of dependents but you can check the accurate fee on border.gov

Travel › Re: General Australian student Visa Enquiries Part 2 by santity100: 2:15pm On Mar 15, 2017

togetherness:
Will the person apply for account related courses from here and change when he/she gets there ?
If yes, is the person applying for TAFE cos of reasonable tuition tho or masters ?

This changing of course from Ur Degree here to something lucrative there is really getting me confused.
Also does age have effect on kind of program you can apply for . Maybe once U're 30, u can't do a TAFE course but masters straightup

Thanks

It is not advisable to try that stunt from here because of visa policies and especially the GTE

Most students that travel to Australia in the past were able to change from bachelor's to TAFE studying diplomas.

It is no more possible to be studying a course lower than the level you were given visa to Australia due to the recent immigration laws.

Travel › Re: General Australian student Visa Enquiries Part 2 by santity100: 2:11pm On Mar 15, 2017

jeffery23:
wow really,
Hello can change his profession as an accountant to diploma in nursing without having the basic knowledge in Australia nd via the documents u will submit for admission won't they knw u 've no degree in science like ur first degree as an accountant or ur O level result is jst commercial stuff, any idea on how to change a profession to nursing for a diploma course in Australia without a background knowledge in ur first degree?

I mean accountant migrated to Australia and enrolled for nursing when he realised the prospects.

It is here we lay unnecessary emphasis on background. There are different pathways depending on your background.

You can study your dream if you are living legitimately in a developed country.

Travel › Re: General Australian student Visa Enquiries Part 2 by santity100: 7:58am On Mar 15, 2017

perfectme:
Hello house, please I need you advice.
I'm a registered nurse in Nigeria (Bsc degree), I have read through the Australia skilled migration and I'm really confused on what decision to make.
For nurses, I read that you have to apply to the nursing and midwifery board of Australia. After assessing your qualification, if it's not up to their standard then they refer you to take a bridoing course which I about 12 weeks and cost about AUD14,000 (note that you'll only be given a 3months visa to go do that and if you don't get a job after your bridging you'll have to go back to your come country and apply for a job from there).
So my question is: can I apply for a diploma course (let's say in community services ) and also do my bridging course at the end of my diploma and get the nursing registration before apply for my PR because I cannot afford a masters programme for now?
How many years visa will I get for a diploma that is for 1.5years?
Can I stay back and work after the diploma?
What are my chances of getting a PR after a 1.5 years diploma in community services?

The demand for nurses is massive in Australia. They are only sceptical about your skills and knowledge, hence the route for the short course.

I know accountants and the rest that left their profession and went to study diploma in nursing when they got to Australia.

Take it and you won't regret the action.

Travel › Re: General Australian student Visa Enquiries Part 2 by santity100: 7:54am On Mar 15, 2017

EmmySparky:
k boss...how long does it take to get the PR from here
..like how many months

It could take you 4 months and take me one year.

It depends the occupation and the points.

Travel › Re: General Australian student Visa Enquiries Part 2 by santity100: 7:49am On Mar 15, 2017

SantaClause:
Hey guys I know this is somewhere in the thread but I need the answers really fast....I need names of schools in Sydney that gives offer without English Test or names of school in Australia without English test...Thanks hips in advance.

Why Sydney ?

Since it is Sydney you are looking at, it will be easier to define your search and contact the schools directly.

RMIT in Melbourne don't English.

But you can easily write PTE and result comes out fast and it is straight English exam and easier.

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Travel › Re: General Australian student Visa Enquiries Part 2 by santity100: 7:44am On Mar 15, 2017

TabyU:
Goodevening , am looking into apply for masters in public health or graduate degree in nursing. My first degree is in biochemistry, met with an agent today but recommended macquire uni which on the high side in regards to tuition. Am looking for a relatively cheap school, and would like to find out if toefl is acceptable in australian schools, a friend of mine also advised i do graduate diploma in health care as opposed to masters,which he says it better and gives border work options.

Hi

Mcquire is AL1 university and most of them are expensive.

You need to know that tuition fees in Australia are high except the TAFE that offer diplomas and certificates courses.

And most of the university will request first semester deposit after acceptance.

Toefl is acceptable but why not try PTE, it is easier to pass and result comes out within 3 days.

Why not go for the Nursing program or the health care. It is better and you have more opportunities during and after studies.

Travel › Re: General Australian student Visa Enquiries Part 2 by santity100: 7:37am On Mar 15, 2017

I have been following this thread and it is helping lots of people here while sometimes information are wrong.

During my undergraduate days, to support myself and get more cash and fx, I was agent to some schools in Canada and UK and I helped lots of students to travel and study in Europe, Australia, Canada and UK.

I will also be giving advice and information to others on this thread based on my wealth of experience and knowledge.

So let's have more questions here ..

Travel › Re: General Australian student Visa Enquiries Part 2 by santity100: 7:29am On Mar 15, 2017

Vivienne01:
University of Technology Sydney, University of New South Wales and some of the schools on A1 list don't demand for English test. Although I think it's needed while processing your visa (I stand to be corrected). Cos pfl demanded for mine during visa application.

Hope this helps.

All AL1 schools do not need English proficiency and proof of sponsorships when apply for visa.

Though some AL1 schools will require English proficiency and sponsor document before issue admission or COE.

Travel › Re: General Australian student Visa Enquiries Part 2 by santity100: 7:27am On Mar 15, 2017

jeffery23:
hello house, i have a bsc in accounting with two years experience, working presently as an accountant in a construction company, can i apply for PR, in Australia

Accountants are on sol and csol.

You need to understand very well the process before you start spending your money and having high hopes with sweet dreams.

For you to be assessed positively you must have a bachelor degree equivalent to Australia's.

The most important is for you to be a member of a professional body like ICAN or ACCA because the assessment bodies in Australia classify our bachelor's degrees as associate degree with exception of uni lag, oau and few others.

Even if you were assessed positively, you will need a good points like 70 points and above to be invited to apply for PR as Accountants ceilings is low and lots of competition from other immigrants with higher points.

To read further, I advise you go to their website and read more about the points.

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