₦airaland Forum

shervydman:
The problem with this country is d people, they don't know their rights, they don't know that leaders are chosen to serve them n not d other way round. What would u expect from the people when they're bribed with 2.5kg of rice during election?? Reason why d governor of a state will construct a 1km road n will celebrate it with red carpet ovation. Our leaders think they're doing us favour by providing basic amenities. Our leaders are not leaders but "politicians".

d people are also divided that it's impossible to stand for one cause, another weak-link!! when some people are not contented with a leader's dispensation, some set of people will fight tooth n nail for that leader to continue his irresponsibility simply because he came from their region. How can we have visionary leaders with this intricacies??

As long as this stupid unitary system remains, Nigeria won't develop...As long as we don't develop Nigerians to think beyond mediocrity n demand better governance from d government, Nigeria is going nowhere, How can we even progress when we're still sensitizing ourselves on "sham unity" that's not there in d first place instead of promulgating progressive policies??

The most annoying part of it is d religious fanatics, they expect God to miraculously do miracles. I don't even want to talk about d religious mumus.

CodeTemplar:
Religion is opium of the masses. It is meant for private use and only becomes a burden when misunderstood. I pay tithe and tax and I know how they help with physical amenities and spiritual needs.
It is when we misdirect the need of amenities to God and depend on wisdom from govt that things go awry.

shervydman:
The problem with this country is d people, they don't know their rights, they don't know that leaders are chosen to serve them n not d other way round. What would u expect from the people when they're bribed with 2.5kg of rice during election?? Reason why d governor of a state will construct a 1km road n will celebrate it with red carpet ovation. Our leaders think they're doing us favour by providing basic amenities. Our leaders are not leaders but "politicians".

d people are also divided that it's impossible to stand for one cause, another weak-link!! when some people are not contented with a leader's dispensation, some set of people will fight tooth n nail for that leader to continue his irresponsibility simply because he came from their region. How can we have visionary leaders with this intricacies??

As long as this stupid unitary system remains, Nigeria won't develop...As long as we don't develop Nigerians to think beyond mediocrity n demand better governance from d government, Nigeria is going nowhere, How can we even progress when we're still sensitizing ourselves on "sham unity" that's not there in d first place instead of promulgating progressive policies??

The most annoying part of it is d religious fanatics, they expect God to miraculously do miracles. I don't even want to talk about d religious mumus.

Sapiosexuality:
About four decades ago, Singapore was just a desert. The country was deserted of business, good ideas, tourists and most importantly, good governance. It was plagued with corruption and the people suffered the consequences. It was a third world country. Today, Singapore is no longer regarded as a third world country. In just a decade, it moved from a third world country to a first world country. In just a decade, it became a centre for tourism, business and welcomed tons of visitors daily, thanks to Prime Minister, Lee Kuan Yew , now called the father of Singapore.

He worked on attracting foreign investments into the country, training the people in various fields of business and grew the country’s industrial base. To ensure the people are safe from external conflicts and secure, he made sure Singapore was admitted into the United Nations. He gave the anticorruption agencies more powers to search, investigate and prosecute corrupt persons. In his autobiography, he wrote ‘I wouldn’t call myself an atheist. I neither deny nor accept that their is a God’.

About three decades ago, the country known as Qatar was in the same state as Today’s Nigeria. It was stupendously rich but its people had nothing to show for it. They were highly religious, praying, cussing and wishing that their oil, siphoned by the Amir, is used to change their lives for good. They couldn’t offer any revolution. They were too weak for that and some considered any attempt at truncating the leadership of the royal family a sin against God and tried to avoid God’s wrath. They were suffering but could only pray against bad governance.

They had hands and minds but shunned any thought to put them to good use. In 1995, Hamid Bin Khalifa Al Thani, the son of the emir overthrew his father in a bloodless coup and this was the beginning of Qatar’s journey to the future. He resolved the border issues the country, or justly put, the Royal Family, had with Saudi Arabia and Bahrain. It was he who, in trying to have a voice, make impressions and showcase the country to the world, created the powerful news Network, Al-Jazeera. He changed the country, gave it an appealing face before handing over to his son, Tamim, in 2013, who is improving on his legacies.

This is not an anti-prayer treatise. This is not an anti-God sermon to dissuade any Nigerian Christian or Muslim from practising their religion. This is not an attempt to weaken the belief of the believer in the faith. This is not a tacit endorsement of atheism, agnosticism or even an attempt to denigrate theism. This is just an attempt to separate religion and religious practise from actual governance. This is an attempt to draw the line between religion and politics. This is a call to use our talents and brainpower in solving problems we CAN solve.

This is an attempt to show that any country that works hard and smart, despite her belief in any supernatural deity or providence, will succeed. This is an attempt to show that good and bad works and commonsensical solutions do not require the inputs of religion or prayers to be effective. It is a call to stop pretending we don’t know what we can do to save ourselves from the mess we dipped our foot into. We know what to do, some of us do but pretense and laziness is stopping us from doing them. We don’t go into prayers when we have an accident, we go to the hospitals. We don’t use prayer to remove a pin stuck in the rib, we go for a surgical operation. We don’t pray before we skip a hurdle, we just jump. But when it comes to governance we try to use prayer to make an independent entity, with freewill, to do a good thing when he is not willing.

What do we really mean by praying for Nigeria? When we ask people to pray for Nigeria what exactly do we intend to achieve? When we ask people to pray for our leaders, demons, what do we mean too? Honestly, none of that has worked. All Nigerian leaders have received gigawatts of prayers but none has failed to offer gigawatts of disappointment in return. All Nigerian leaders have sponsored both Christian and Islamic Pilgrimages but none of the prayers have worked. Why will it work? Where has it worked?

In America, the country knew nature rewards work and scorns at limbless words, they applied it and it worked. In Qatar, the people were in hell until a son who knew better, who knew that prayers and goodwill is not enough and will not lift a finger, a son who was well educated and learned, transmitted his energy to the society and they were saved. The same thing happened in UAE but we have not learned. We keep praying for things we have, within us, answers to. How do you elect a demon after collecting 2000 Naira and start praying for that demon to change? How do you expect any God to interfere with the freewill of men who have sold their souls to the devil?

We can keep praying and wishing but it will change nothing. We can keep praying before any national event where we formulate disastrous policies but nothing will change. God doesn’t build countries. He, in both the Christian and Islamic religions, which the majority of Nigerians profess, has given man dominion over everything under the earth. If a government is failing, wait at the polls and stop collecting peanuts that ruin you. If something is not working, call the people in charge and demand better. If a system is faulty and you want it corrected, demand sound leadership.

Stop calling God to cover your ineffectuality. Stop calling for prayers in building a nation because you have hands and should put your minds to use. From America, Britain, Germany to the modern day prosperous countries like Qatar, UAE and Singapore, this is what was done. They knew only good governance and moving (not just deciding to) forward will help them move forward. They stopped hiding behind prayer and what God wanted and gave the people what they needed. When we are sick we visit the hospital but if the government is bad we call on God and pray when we can do something. Something is wrong with us.

plessis:
There are so many reasons why logic is inconsistent. The fact that it is a systematic type of reasoning created by the limited human already limits it...there are so many paradoxes that we have discovered due to this patternized system of reasoning.

But let me help you, go and take a crash course on axiomatic set theory..... And understand why and how a system of axioms cannot be consistent and be complete at the same time.... And why logic, a system of axioms, is not enough to validate itself.


Logic is not the absolute...

CuteMadridista:
Nice one but still buttresses my point that deactivation really does next to nothing

plessis:
first, logic is inconsistent. Secondly, forget the religious folks, we do not have an idea of the creator. Thirdly, I mentioned belief.....belief is the first step and a major ingredient for knowledge..... Electricity, gravity and other phenomenas were all unknowable before the human mind used belief and inquisition to take that step into the unknown. every discovery were at some point a belief.

plessis:
you concluded that making deductions from certain premises on the chritian God led to contradtions. And i'm simply telling you that logic is not enough and might even be the wrongest tool to study what is inaccessible to our 5 senses.

CuteMadridista:
Fair enough but if you're very security conscious its better not to put personal things online or mix many lies and untruths with those personal things that you confuse whoever is trying to track you down. that's because once you put something out there its very difficult - if not impossible - to "unput"

plessis:
juju aka black magic, deja vu etc

donsimo:
Will miss him, I know he can't resist to check Niaraland.

Its time to continue where he left for us.

CuteMadridista:
I can never understand the sense behind deactivating monickers, I understand doing it to your extra monickers but main monicker? people would no longer be able to see your topics again and checking your posts would require lots of efforts and the posts they'll be able to see are those in which you were quoted

I think if you wanna leave, just leave and don't deactivate, for the sake of everyone else who's interested in your posts or those that might develop interest in it in the future

laskilala:
is better one indulges in research that produce physical things than more of esoteric. invent machine and technologies. religion has never over time help anyone. naija is still stagnant because we focus much of our effort on what doesn't count. the world is going into Ai. human organ cloning and finding a cure for deadly diseases but see us wasting out time reading one god or gods history etc. in computing, there are alot of problems that remain unsolved. am of the view we should focus more on that than anunaki, gods, ETs this ET that. it gatz help no one.

Billyonaire:
People do I sound insane.? I want sincere response so I can seek medical help.

plessis:
you made a logical argument on the perfection of God and i was telling you that logic isnt enough to validate itself and to check for its consisteny, not to talk of making logical conclusions on certain concepts that we have zero approach for rational study.

plessis:
it is foolishhness to make conclusions on life, the universe and other concepts that are currently beyond our mental and physical reach using logic, a patternized system of reasoning. For logic itself is inconsistent and can be contradictory sometimes. Two major requirements for knowledge are truth and belief. Infact, belief begets knowledge. Forget the atheists who constantly mock christians. Belief is healthy. We can work with belief in our search for God and the purpose of life.

GodIsBiafran:
This point of view is probably the right one (based on reality). However, you will agree with me that it is quite depressing. I personally think Obama could have done more but he was worried about what certain (conservative/red-state) white people would think. I think, we Africans must develop our societies so that African Americans can at least have a place to call their own - even if its just psychological.

GodIsBiafran:
Thank you - for the explanation. So, what do you think blacks in America need to do to address this issue effectively in this era of Trump?

GodIsBiafran:
What do you mean by the emboldened. Can you please explain. Thanks.

Bolowolowo:
If the Whites stayed, then we would have had our own apartheid

CuteMadridista:
no rule, I was just asking a favour

CuteMadridista:
mods should delete all his posts from inception

This guy talks a lot without saying anything