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Kimcutie:
I average 6 - 11$ daily on AdSense.

Nice. How does one know his total AdSense earning for the day? Thanks. My blog is www.mortalpoet.com. From estimated earnings, rpm, CPC, ctr, etc. I need to understand how to calculate the daily earnings.

shadeyinka:
In that sense, you could be right. A sizable number of Christians by their actions could be said to be afraid of not only Dying but Death itself

Could? Or is? The majority are scared and hide the fear within some created characteristics of homosapiens.

EbonyCy:
pls if you do find an answer,let me know anytime...Thans

Okay, I will. Don't forget to share too if you find out. These guys here are too busy to help anyone.

shadeyinka:
In conclusion, a Christian who fears death is either ignorant or not really a Christian.
Every human being however is programmed to choose to avoid death by instinct. I dont know a single person who relishes the process of dying.

But it is also a very wrong generalization that Christians fear DEATH

Wrong generalization? I don't mean it to be a generalization but a doing of the majority. The majority are too scared that it affects their overall sense of justice and goodness.

What tools do these youths have? Do they have a working Brain? Are they willing to sacrifice their life? I had you guys in mind when I wrote this article. Read and digest it.

http://www.mortalpoet.com/nigerian-youth-make-president/

shadeyinka:
I think I have answered you
"
So, as a Christian:
1. Do I fear death? NO!
2. Do I want to die now? NO!
3. How would I prefer to die?
-Painless
-Probably in my sleep
4. If given a choice, would I want to know the day of my death in advance? YES!"

Would I want to know what will kill me? (Bokoharam, Old age, Illness, Bullet, Knife etc)
I dont want to know. Its the scary part!

I agree with your answer. The part I'm not comfortable with is the instinct part.

EbonyCy:
have u got an answer to your question? I would love to know too please

No. I don't think you'd find the answer here.

shadeyinka:
At least its good you understood that they mean different things depending on the context.

Just as yours, statements 1 and 2 mean different things.
The first is a conclusion of their state (Died, Dead)
The second is a process (which could be halted if appropriate measure are taken) that could lead to death.

Let's stop all these play upon words and address the point. The truth is, I don't think you honestly miss my point. Let's stop the pretence.

shadeyinka:
Tell me which of these two are logically valid statements
1. I am dying
2. I have died

They are both correct. One in the denotative or literal sense, the other in the connotative or metaphoric sense.

Tell me which of these statements is linguistically, semantically and illogical

1. 3 million people DIED of malaria in Nigeria.
2. In Nigeria, people are DYING of malaria.

shadeyinka:
Sorry No.
Death is a State of not being physically alive
Dying is the Process that leads to death.

The process is an unknown Journey

So when I say 'in Borno, people are dying like chicken' what do I mean? Semantically speaking, in English, dying could also mean death. What's even the past participle of death? And can we totally separate a thing from it's past tense or participle?

shadeyinka:
You wrote about "Death" and not "Dying".
Are they the same?

When we say people are dying is that not the same thing as death?

shadeyinka:
I think you have over generalized and made a wrong conclusion in the process
1. Everyone is programmed to desire life (except when the soul is compromised through loss of HOPE does a person desire death)
2. Death and the Process of dying are different
i. A Christian should not fear death but will have apprehension for death because at death, your fate is sealed (like the apprehension one feels at getting the result of your exam even when you know you cannot fail)
ii. The Process of dying is usually not palatable. Traumas, Gasping, Pain, Sickness etc
No single human is programmed to accept it as a nice experience.
Apart from that, the passage of dying is an unknown journey and just like jumping from a plane in sky diving, only a few of us will love the "rush".

So, as a Christian:
1. Do I fear death? NO!
2. Do I want to die now? NO!
3. How would I prefer to die?
-Painless
-Probably in my sleep
4. If given a choice, would I want to know the day of my death in advance? YES!

But do you see dying now as a big problem considering your level in the faith?

ajokebelle:
I only got to know all this Daniella okeke, Anita Joseph, sunshine , Regina, Daniel, Onyi Alex and a host of others only on nairaland, I have never seen any of their movies,
even their pictures outside nairaland.

What does that tell you about the forum? Who knows that bleached gay Bobrisky? That's what they do here. You are a Nigerian forum but over 90% of people you've made popular are fools.

http://www.mortalpoet.com/dear-nigerians-stop-promoting-stupidity/

Hati13:
They are also scared, because dying almost always involves pain.

Babies don't know that touching fire is painful, but they don't know it until they tried it and instinctively know that it's harmful. When they also on the process of death, they aren't scared at first, but they will start to get sacred during the process of death isn't instant.

When I say scared of death in babies, I'm referring the pain since babies don't know what dying and death mean.

I don't understand you. Is the fear of pain the same thing as the fear of death? If children fear pain and have no clue what death really is, how can that be described as the fear of death?

hadow:
I guess u haven't met a true Christian, true christians are not afraid of death, in fact we actually see it as a/an honour to die especially during service to God, or why do u think missionaries leave their comfort zone to go to troubled areas or areas where there is no active propagation of the gospel risking their lives "carrying their cross" just to ensure people get saved, have u ever heard of the Moravians these are people who even sold themselves out as slaves just to preach the gospel(google them for more info), don't u remember d story of Steven who stood fearless in d face of death acts8

Of course they are Christians without this fear. The unfortunate thing is the majority who, despite the substance of their faith, see death with so much fear and reference.

Hati13:
That what I said. Fear of dying (the process) is instinct, but fear of death can be taught to eliminate it.

If it is instinct how come children and babies are not scared of dying until they grow and taught so? Shouldn't be experienced from the very beginning? Is that not a sign that it was learned?

Great advice. Using a wrong to right a wrong.

Hati13:
There is nothing after death and the fear most ppl have on it should be eliminated through awareness. But fear of dying is an instinct behavior. It's magnitude may differ from person to person and from time to time. Hormones affect this fear. For example, I was very depressed that my fear of dying was low that I sliced my left neck (I could touch my throats and carotid artery) with out hesitation about 9 months ago.

I think it is the fear of harm and pain that is an hormonal. The fear of death was taught and learned. That's why the suicide bomber can be taught to love death.

GasAndOilTheory:
1.Uneasiness from too much pain leads to death

1.I never used a toddler as a case study rather human being.

2.I used a sucide bomber to explain a hypothetical scenario.

3.Dear OP do you even know the meaning of instinct ?

4.I believe in science so do a little research on instinct then do a research on death.You'd understand better.

Even lack of pain leads to death. And uneasiness as a result of pain does not translate to the fear of pain. Some fear pain but embrace death. So your first point is not valid.

You didn't use a suicide bomber, it was me who gave the example of a suicide bomber. Even at that, I don't even see how using to explain a hypothetical scenario explains anything.

What research did you do to arrive at that? I am telling you that no matter the research done, a human being who strongly believes he is going to a better place cannot be scared of going to that place.

We've seen it in men seeking for 7 or so virgins in paradise. In people who have lost hope in life and eloped. In people who have transcended in and out of the other dimensions. Give me something strong.

The plan was poorly thought. What about those abroad? So you'd have to come back home just for BVN verification? Poorly thought.

GasAndOilTheory:
i still insist that the fear of death is instinctive that's why the sucide bomber goes through a process of "learning not to fear death".
lets use a human being as a case study. When he touches a candle flame, what will make him withdrawl his finger ? Is it that he was taught he should withdrawl his finger or responded to a prompt from within ?

What makes him withdraw is the uneasiness resulting from pain and not some fear of death.

Toddlers don't even understand what death is to fear it. They do things that could result in their death until they grow enough to see and learn that life shouldn't be toiled with. They were not born with an innate fear of death.

Today what we call instincts are human constructs. If you know there's a higher place, if you strongly see there's something higher than the current, then your instincts wouldn't antagonise them.

What a country! Tomorrow these ones will talk about offering the Shia Muslims free medical treatment and we will pretend their is no logic in their disdain for the gift.

El-Zackzacky has been bullied, disgraced and humiliated but we are quiet. No wahala. Gradually the stupidity will reach everyone. It is not your business today.

http://www.mortalpoet.com/military-vaccination-nigerians-afraid/

GasAndOilTheory:
So we continued the trip and his sermon. Most people were tired of his talks but couldn't tell him to please stop maybe because of the fear of being tagged an atheist or unbeliever.

An hour later our vehicle was hit by a stupid never do well man that was over speeding and trying to over take our bus at a bend.It was late before the mad driver realised there was a car fast approaching on the opposite lane. He swerved back to the right lane and before u could say "JACK ROBBINSON SAVE US" our bus sumersulted twice like Obafemi Martins.

I was the second person to jump out through the window, our pastor was the first person. Everybody wan go heaven but nobody wan die.

Till today ehen, it still baffles me no one died in that


But please note that the fear of death is instinctive. Pastors will preach about heaven but when the chance to die comes, they run like Usain Bolt. This reminds me of the catholic priest who hid behind the alter while the church members where being killed

Is it instinctive or subject to learning? Look at the suicide bombers. No fear because they received a learning, whether erroneous or not, that saw death as a gateway to something great.

hopefulLandlord:
most times we respond when it has something to do with us and sometimes we may grace a thread even when it has nothing to do with us

I'm just helping you bump your thread with my posts here

Your use of 'we' is fascinating.

hopefulLandlord:
most times yes

So why won't Atheists respond to this? And what do you mean by 'most times, yes?'.

hopefulLandlord:
what has your OP got to do with us?

Does it really has something to do with the atheist before he responds?

hopefulLandlord:
Why are Christians avoiding this thread?

Not just Christians. Even atheists are avoiding it.

Thoughts

If heaven is so lovely and good and the Christian is a true believer, and any cessation of his life takes him there, what sense then exists when he celebrates missing it? If this world is full of evil and owned by Satan or the devil, why should we rejoice when we miss an opportunity to leave this place? Is it that we do not really believe what we practise or that we don’t understand it well enough? Is it because we want to gain all that is on this earth before going to heaven? If that is so, wouldn’t that amount to the materialism this faith we profess is calling against? What exactly can be derived from our fear of death? Is it that natural aspect of the being that cannot be overshadowed even by the most powerful knowledge and entity in our world?

Full article at

http://www.mortalpoet.com/the-fear-of-death/

cris83:
Sapio, how you doing? Longest time! Have you been fortunate to get a job now??

I'm trying, Chris. Got something but it is only for feeding and transport. lol. I hope you are good too? Any job yet?