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hadow:
I guess u haven't met a true Christian, true christians are not afraid of death, in fact we actually see it as a/an honour to die especially during service to God, or why do u think missionaries leave their comfort zone to go to troubled areas or areas where there is no active propagation of the gospel risking their lives "carrying their cross" just to ensure people get saved, have u ever heard of the Moravians these are people who even sold themselves out as slaves just to preach the gospel(google them for more info), don't u remember d story of Steven who stood fearless in d face of death acts8

Of course they are Christians without this fear. The unfortunate thing is the majority who, despite the substance of their faith, see death with so much fear and reference.

Hati13:
That what I said. Fear of dying (the process) is instinct, but fear of death can be taught to eliminate it.

If it is instinct how come children and babies are not scared of dying until they grow and taught so? Shouldn't be experienced from the very beginning? Is that not a sign that it was learned?

Great advice. Using a wrong to right a wrong.

Hati13:
There is nothing after death and the fear most ppl have on it should be eliminated through awareness. But fear of dying is an instinct behavior. It's magnitude may differ from person to person and from time to time. Hormones affect this fear. For example, I was very depressed that my fear of dying was low that I sliced my left neck (I could touch my throats and carotid artery) with out hesitation about 9 months ago.

I think it is the fear of harm and pain that is an hormonal. The fear of death was taught and learned. That's why the suicide bomber can be taught to love death.

GasAndOilTheory:
1.Uneasiness from too much pain leads to death

1.I never used a toddler as a case study rather human being.

2.I used a sucide bomber to explain a hypothetical scenario.

3.Dear OP do you even know the meaning of instinct ?

4.I believe in science so do a little research on instinct then do a research on death.You'd understand better.

Even lack of pain leads to death. And uneasiness as a result of pain does not translate to the fear of pain. Some fear pain but embrace death. So your first point is not valid.

You didn't use a suicide bomber, it was me who gave the example of a suicide bomber. Even at that, I don't even see how using to explain a hypothetical scenario explains anything.

What research did you do to arrive at that? I am telling you that no matter the research done, a human being who strongly believes he is going to a better place cannot be scared of going to that place.

We've seen it in men seeking for 7 or so virgins in paradise. In people who have lost hope in life and eloped. In people who have transcended in and out of the other dimensions. Give me something strong.

The plan was poorly thought. What about those abroad? So you'd have to come back home just for BVN verification? Poorly thought.

GasAndOilTheory:
i still insist that the fear of death is instinctive that's why the sucide bomber goes through a process of "learning not to fear death".
lets use a human being as a case study. When he touches a candle flame, what will make him withdrawl his finger ? Is it that he was taught he should withdrawl his finger or responded to a prompt from within ?

What makes him withdraw is the uneasiness resulting from pain and not some fear of death.

Toddlers don't even understand what death is to fear it. They do things that could result in their death until they grow enough to see and learn that life shouldn't be toiled with. They were not born with an innate fear of death.

Today what we call instincts are human constructs. If you know there's a higher place, if you strongly see there's something higher than the current, then your instincts wouldn't antagonise them.

What a country! Tomorrow these ones will talk about offering the Shia Muslims free medical treatment and we will pretend their is no logic in their disdain for the gift.

El-Zackzacky has been bullied, disgraced and humiliated but we are quiet. No wahala. Gradually the stupidity will reach everyone. It is not your business today.

http://www.mortalpoet.com/military-vaccination-nigerians-afraid/

GasAndOilTheory:
So we continued the trip and his sermon. Most people were tired of his talks but couldn't tell him to please stop maybe because of the fear of being tagged an atheist or unbeliever.

An hour later our vehicle was hit by a stupid never do well man that was over speeding and trying to over take our bus at a bend.It was late before the mad driver realised there was a car fast approaching on the opposite lane. He swerved back to the right lane and before u could say "JACK ROBBINSON SAVE US" our bus sumersulted twice like Obafemi Martins.

I was the second person to jump out through the window, our pastor was the first person. Everybody wan go heaven but nobody wan die.

Till today ehen, it still baffles me no one died in that


But please note that the fear of death is instinctive. Pastors will preach about heaven but when the chance to die comes, they run like Usain Bolt. This reminds me of the catholic priest who hid behind the alter while the church members where being killed

Is it instinctive or subject to learning? Look at the suicide bombers. No fear because they received a learning, whether erroneous or not, that saw death as a gateway to something great.

hopefulLandlord:
most times we respond when it has something to do with us and sometimes we may grace a thread even when it has nothing to do with us

I'm just helping you bump your thread with my posts here

Your use of 'we' is fascinating.

hopefulLandlord:
most times yes

So why won't Atheists respond to this? And what do you mean by 'most times, yes?'.

hopefulLandlord:
what has your OP got to do with us?

Does it really has something to do with the atheist before he responds?

hopefulLandlord:
Why are Christians avoiding this thread?

Not just Christians. Even atheists are avoiding it.

Thoughts

If heaven is so lovely and good and the Christian is a true believer, and any cessation of his life takes him there, what sense then exists when he celebrates missing it? If this world is full of evil and owned by Satan or the devil, why should we rejoice when we miss an opportunity to leave this place? Is it that we do not really believe what we practise or that we don’t understand it well enough? Is it because we want to gain all that is on this earth before going to heaven? If that is so, wouldn’t that amount to the materialism this faith we profess is calling against? What exactly can be derived from our fear of death? Is it that natural aspect of the being that cannot be overshadowed even by the most powerful knowledge and entity in our world?

Full article at

http://www.mortalpoet.com/the-fear-of-death/

cris83:
Sapio, how you doing? Longest time! Have you been fortunate to get a job now??

I'm trying, Chris. Got something but it is only for feeding and transport. lol. I hope you are good too? Any job yet?

Youcharia:
My dear, anything advisor is marketing..
Don't be deceived by the big names..

Lololol. I suspected. Where is that guy that gave me the first lecture?

Orpe7:
That is why the person will be trained for the job

Okay. I get you now.

Orpe7:
Just as the name implies
U advise clients on how best to invest their money

I was only wondering how ANYONE sitting at home can apply to such technical and professional position. It isn't?

visit www.mortalpoet.com and see the template there. You'd like it. It is called MH Magazine.

ToluwalopeM:
Hi Debbie, do you have inside info on this?

I don't think so. She's repeated that here.

How many months now and no one can tell what really happened. Naija I hail thee.



http://www.mortalpoet.com/far-ozubulu-killings/

https://www.nairaland.com/4028779/how-far-ozubulu-killings

Orpe7:
Are you a fresh graduate in need of some experience or you have past experiences but presently looking for a job in LAGOS STATE. Dont sit and complain that there is no job whereas there is.
Submit a well detailed Cv to
Olufunke.rotimi@armlife.com.ng
For a position of a financial Advisor at ARM LIFE PLC.
Remember an idle mind........

Financial advisor? What does that mean?

All you need to know about Monkey pox here.
http://www.mortalpoet.com/monkeypox-all-you-need-to-know/

Diouf's and Gerard like cat and dog in one room. I remember him saying "When I went to Liverpool, I showed him(Gerard) that he was nothing". Lol. " He has not achieved anything for his country..." Lol

Why are columnists these days numb to the truth? Why all these attempts to blame the legendary corruption of Buhari on minions as though that alone can wipe out the smallness of the man? Smh.

FortifiedCity:
These are people who travel out a lot yet they can't replicate what they see outside.

Like there is a spirit of idiocy that grabs anyone who wins a political seat in Nigeria

It is a value problem. They place little value on the lives of their own people. That's the problem with African leaders in general.

http://www.mortalpoet.com/corruption-is-not-the-problem-with-africa/

Decryptor:
Some of these topics are actually"paid topics" to be pushed to frontpage

Exactly the words I don't want to use. Exactly what I think is happening.

hyfr:
thats my fear too. Someone said these things come as a result of the monetary aspects most of these topics gets them

They know better but I won't have such amount of visitors and still encourage mental regarding topics in my forum. I don't even encourage it in my little blog www.mortalpoet.com. Reddit doesn't need stupidity to sell.

hyfr:
thanks brother. Can u move the item to NL. Most stupid celebrities I know now came as a result of seeing their topics on NL. Enough is enough

I may do that tomorrow but as usual, it will die in the sections. It seems some posts and persons are bared from making the front-page.

hyfr:
Pls correct me if I'm wrong. The moderators on Nairaland are they below 20yrs? I can't fathom any sensible reason why someone who learnt how to tiptoe should be our concern, when they masses need an eye opener and a way to come out of poverty. Instead the moderators are forcing other peoples lifestyle,family issues, problems etc,down on us.Thousands of sensible topic are wallowing underground. NB: most of us see this forum as one of the ways to escape the various issues of life. Sorry for the epistle, I'm high right now

Good question. I've been wondering too. This article captures it well. We need to stop promoting these irrelevances.

http://www.mortalpoet.com/dear-nigerians-stop-promoting-stupidity/

Nice one, Falz. I respect you. We need to stop giving both tacit and direct support to these boys. http://www.mortalpoet.com/9ice-falz-yahoo-boys-how-nigerians-supported-fraudsters/