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Christianity EtcRe: I No Longer Go To Church If I'm Skint (no Money), Can't Stand The Pressure! by sarmy(m): 5:56pm On Jul 10, 2011
What the OP is saying some may not understand, there are some churches Pastors will be praying as if cursing when it's issue of offering/tithe.

Is it not better to stay away from such and not be aware of them or stay and be reversing the curses instead of joining the congregation in chorusing amen huh huh huh
Christianity EtcHow Excellent Is Thy Name - Great Designer (Psalm 8) by sarmy(op): 2:32pm On Jul 09, 2011
Psalm 8

1O LORD, our Lord, how excellent is thy name in all the earth! who hast set thy glory above the heavens.

2Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings hast thou ordained strength because of thine enemies, that thou mightest still the enemy and the avenger.

3When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained;

4What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?


5For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour.

6Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all things under his feet:

7All sheep and oxen, yea, and the beasts of the field;

8The fowl of the air, and the fish of the sea, and whatsoever passeth through the paths of the seas.

9O LORD our Lord, how excellent is thy name [/b]in all the earth!


This book of Psalm 8 is a summary of all our desires to comprehend this Awesome Great Designer of ours, his [b]name/look/thought/works
are too much for us to understand, we keep fighting each other thinking we are right while others are wrong, the fact is that we can not fully comprehend this awesome God for now.

May be if we just call you "The Beginning & the End"
Christianity EtcGrace - The Unmerited Favor Of God? by sarmy(op): 12:57pm On Jun 23, 2011
Is GRACE unmerited favor of God?

In everything give thanks, for we are saved by His grace, we are alive by his grace and everything actually is by His grace. These and many more are the common ways we refer to the grace of God

What really is grace, is it unmerited, is it a free gift, is it by work or by faith. Is it God's prerogative to give it or not, are there levels of grace and how do we increase it?

kindly share your view.

Shalom
PoliticsRe: Bankole’s Father Cries Out, They Want To Kill My Son by sarmy(m): 12:48pm On Jun 14, 2011
mekaboy:


SO EFCC CANNOT MISTAKENLY SHOOT BANKOLE AND CALL IT ACCIDENTAL DISCHARGE? huh angry

THEY ARE VERY WEAK AND AS CORRUPT AS HE IS .
hahahahh this guy u wicked o, you be police b4?

LOL

No, I'm angry I no feel laugh
Christianity EtcRe: Humanism - The Sensible Replacement For Religion? by sarmy(m): 9:25pm On Jun 04, 2011
I think humanism should be the way to go
Christianity EtcRe: Satan Wants You To Tithe! by sarmy(m): 3:32pm On May 13, 2011
KunleOshob:
@tee_jay

No one is upset with tithers, at worst we sympathize with them cause they are being fleeced on a continuous basis. The people we are angry with are fraudulent manipulators of the scripture who use it to hoodwink believers into parting with 10% of their income. These wolves are [b]corrupting the body of christ [/b]and reaping off our brethen.
This doctrine is a BIG stumblingblock to new believers still unskilled in rightly dividing the word of God, some have stopped going to Church as their pastors will not stop threatening them will hellfire and devourers for failing to tithe & must not be missed on no account.

Brethren must be set FREE from this yoke
Christianity EtcRe: Who Is Answering The Prayers Of Unbelievers? by sarmy(op): 11:24am On May 13, 2011
benodic:
exactly as i have said it. there are spiritual laws governing the lower worlds which God has put in place to take care of things.

for example you have the law of karma which is also known as cause and effect. which was the law Jesus was trying to explain when he said that whatever you sow you will reap. if you sow evil you will reap evil and vice versa.

the law of assumption was what jesus was also trying to explain when he said that if you ask God for anything believe that you have already received it and it will come to pass at the right time.

these laws works for every soul  whether you are a christian, a moslem or an atheist it really doesn't matter. This explains why if you look around you it is not only christians that are prospering and doing well in their lives. success in life cuts across all religions and all regions and that is why you will even see atheists doing very well in life. these spiritual laws of life are totally impersonal and does not ask you your religion before it starts working in your life.

I agree with you 100% just that most Christians believe God listens only to their prayers while prayer of a non-christian is like abomination to God

I had this discussion with a lady Christian whom her pastor told to examine her life and if found wanting in any area her prayers will not be answered. But, what she was actually asking God for, non-believers in the same category have received theirs. I then asked her if she could tell me who answered the prayer of the unbelievers >>>>she could not.
Christianity EtcRe: Satan Wants You To Tithe! by sarmy(m): 4:12pm On May 12, 2011
If preachers discovered a way to get rich off circumcision, they will be crafty enough to yank a few scriptures out of context to prove this law is still binding upon all believers today, including the poor widow with a quarter left in her purse. And if she cited 101 reasons why she couldn't conform to this law, the preacher would still tell her, "if you really loved Jesus you'd just shut up and submit." by Patricia Backora
Christianity EtcRe: Who Is Answering The Prayers Of Unbelievers? by sarmy(op): 5:28pm On May 11, 2011
benodic:
@dare2think

you are making a very valid point. these are things that Christians find hard to understand. the love of the almighty God is for every one. It sends the rain to fall on every one and It allows the sun to also shine on every body.

God created the earth and put immutable laws to control things. any one who follows the laws and principles of prosperity will be rich. it does not matter whether the person believes in the existence of God or not.

God is not even begging any one to believe in It and It really does not care if you worship it or not. the problem is that Christians confuse Jehovah as the almighty God which he certainly is not. Jehovah who is the tribal god of the isrealites is the one that is jealous and loves worship. The almighty God who we know as the Sugmad has no time for all these petty things. It is only interested in the expansion and growth of soul's consciousness so that soul can become mature and come back home to It.
I want to agree with you but out of couriosity, why are you using "it" for God?

So your point is that no God is directly answering prayers but has put some laws in motion to control things, can you shed more lights on this
Christianity EtcRe: Who Is Answering The Prayers Of Unbelievers? by sarmy(op): 4:46pm On May 11, 2011
Uyi Iredia:
fair enough ! >>> this is my answer: An atheists disbelieves in the existence of God but believes solely in his own existence >>> his understanding of existence is strictly (substantiated) by that which is material >>> since an atheist does not believe in a metaphysical God (understood to various levels in the infinitude of religions) >>> he/she expects nothing from God and will never get anything from God in this life or in death >>> notwithstanding whether such a person is good or bad

I can say this because I have made the switch from Christianity to atheism and back >>> and it took just about a week >>> thing is atheists can never be true to the core of their position: If there is no God there is no morality

later on, i will write essays to counter Sam Harris' stance >>> all I'll say for now is that Sam Harris' argument is taking science back to where it started >>> in the days of old, scientists were worshiped as gods, consider the ffg passages: Gen 41:18, Gen 7, Gen 8, Dan 1:11-22
Some Pagans do pray to God and they believe in God, like PAGAN 9JA said they do get answers to their prayers, who is responsible for those answers?
Christianity EtcRe: Who Is Answering The Prayers Of Unbelievers? by sarmy(op): 3:11pm On May 11, 2011
Joagbaje:
sarmy
The bible was clear , they are without God.

Ephesians 2:12
12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:


They are without God, the only prayer God would hear from a sinner is a prayer of salvation. Whats the point of God hearing prayer of a sinner and the sinner still end up in hell? They leave by chance ,they function in the realm of the senses . God is a spirit , their prayer is outside Gods will .he doesn't hear sinners.

John 9:31
31 Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth.
You said God does not hear sinners except their prayer of salvation, so who is responsible for answering their other prayers?


Are they really living by chance?
Christianity EtcRe: Who Is Answering The Prayers Of Unbelievers? by sarmy(op): 3:02pm On May 11, 2011
Uyi Iredia:
back from class >>> funny though, but the class happened to be about presentation of arguments  cool

didn't you refer to my foolish answer >>> a wise person wins his own soul and tries to help lost souls to win >>> must i waste my life doing that huh
why not, just kidding grin



I'm not atheist, I asked this question genuinely  out of a conversation I had with someone recently.

Cheers!
Christianity EtcRe: Who Is Answering The Prayers Of Unbelievers? by sarmy(op): 1:04pm On May 11, 2011
Uyi Iredia:
i have no time for atheists
He that wins a soul is wise


How do you conclude about being an atheist, how people make wrong assumptions, anyway thks.
Christianity EtcRe: Who Is Answering The Prayers Of Unbelievers? by sarmy(op): 12:33pm On May 11, 2011
Uyi Iredia:
a very wise reply, thank you  cool
Uyi, seriously this is not a foolish question, I actually want inputs from various sides

Do you really mean nobody is answering prayers, then explain further as millions of people are praying everyday for one thing or the other.

Have you ever desired something and wish to have it, do you ever have a need and wish the supply can come quickly, you may not kneel down and pray officially but some thoughts can be considered as as prayers as well
Christianity EtcRe: Who Is Answering The Prayers Of Unbelievers? by sarmy(op): 12:18pm On May 11, 2011
Uyi Iredia:
answer to your foolish question >>> somebody makes a prayer, not everybody hears their prayers, Mr Nobody answers their prayer
What a foolish answer no offence
Christianity EtcRe: Who Is Answering The Prayers Of Unbelievers? by sarmy(op): 12:04pm On May 11, 2011
Joagbaje:
An unbeliever has no relationship with God.
So who is answering their prayers?
Christianity EtcRe: Who Is Answering The Prayers Of Unbelievers? by sarmy(op): 11:43am On May 11, 2011
PAGAN 9JA:

stop classifying idol worshippers along with corrupt politicians, robbers n killers.
we idol-worshippers r righteous and moral ppl too. and wat proof dya hav dat God answers d prayers of christians and moslems and not ourshuh angry angry angry angry

and remember, if it werent for us Pagans, then African culture wud hav been aa myth. angry angry
I'm not the one classifying them together, if you ask most Christians you know, they will tell you that until you accept Jesus as your personal Lord and Saviour you are not a child of God and belong to the class of unbelievers


I believe prayers from both believers and unbelievers are being answered, reason why I asked who is responsible for answering the prayers of non-christians
Christianity EtcRe: Who Is Answering The Prayers Of Unbelievers? by sarmy(op): 10:33am On May 10, 2011
manmustwac:
@sarmy
your so stoopid huh huh what the HELL! do we need to pray for? Prayer is just superstition, its the opium that helps to keep the masses under control and any prayer that is answered is either through luck, chance or coincidence. If i need something i depend on hardwork and planning not prayers blind faith or some imaginary jewish dude.
Don't be silly, if you don't pray, others do with proofs
Christianity EtcRe: Who Is Answering The Prayers Of Unbelievers? by sarmy(op): 5:35pm On May 09, 2011
@gacha

I’m not saying they are not human beings

I only wanted to clarify that the same God of Christian, Muslim and other religions is the same God that answers the prayer of herbalists, idol worshipers, corrupt politicians, robbers, killers etc (as most human beings do pray)

Some prays by making sacrifices to god using goats, etc ---- who answers those prayers.

I'm not sure most Christians will agree that their God also answers the prayers of Killers/robbers
Christianity EtcRe: Who Is Answering The Prayers Of Unbelievers? by sarmy(op): 4:34pm On May 09, 2011
@gacha

What you are saying is that, God does not care about religion, once your heart is in tune with his law He hears.

How about the worshipers of idols, herbalists, and those corrupt politicians. Who is answering their prayers?
Christianity EtcWho Is Answering The Prayers Of Unbelievers? by sarmy(op): 3:32pm On May 09, 2011
Christians pray to God through Jesus and He hears, Muslim also pray to God and he hears them. Who is responsible for answering the prayers.

Is the same God answering all the prayers

What of those who are not practicing religion or believe in God, do they pray at all and who is responsible for answering their own prayers or wishes.

Is their a system in-built in all humans that answers prayers no matter your religion?
Christianity EtcRe: God/jesus Must Save Satan First, Before He Could Achieve Saving Human Being. by sarmy(m): 3:09pm On Apr 08, 2011
Image123:
God has already JUDGED satan. The devil's only waiting to start his term in hell. Man has not been judged but will be judged at the great white throne by God Jesus. That's why man's still got a chance to escape eternal judgement, and opt for eternal life and reward instead.
I will like some people to clarify this:-

1. Is there a Hell fire already in existence
2. Is there anyone in this hell fire
3. Where is the devil right now


I'll like to know if there is already hell fire with some sinners there in while satan the originator of sin enjoying, ruling and controlling most head of states all over the world.

Someone said on another thread of a visit to hell and heaven with some people in hell. How true?

I need answers.
Christianity EtcRe: Nigerians And God-(part 2) by sarmy(m): 1:55pm On Apr 08, 2011
Pastor AIO:
'Show me a verse and Show me a meaning'. What a formula! But that is it, nailed on the head, fairly, squarely, and succinctly. Religion is reduced to Verse and Meaning. This is the danger of text derived religion.

Text is just text and all text is subject to interpretation. Truth can never be reduced to a text. So those that say that the Truth is this that or the other are deluding themselves. Whether it is Koran, Bible, Grail Message, Book of Mormon, etc etc etc.

When your religion relies so heavily on text then you expose yourself to manipulation from those who know how to join convenient meaning to text, all in the name of holy spirit inspiration.

Yet the ineffable Truth can be experienced after which it is usually followed by profound silence. Not preaching.
That's just it. Truth can never be reduced to a text

Sometimes I wonder why Jesus did not write any book by himself (probably he thought it was not necessary)

Why did God not just create a book and send it down from the sky and call it our user manual (probably because it's not necessary)

The true word of God is there and already there inside of us.
Christianity EtcRe: Pastors And Tithes, Why Can't They Let Go? by sarmy(m): 1:39pm On Apr 08, 2011
manmustwac:
@post
They say if you don't pay your tithes your robbing god its emotional blackmail.
Some will even quote Mal 10, threatening them indirectly



Would any good dad curse his children if they fail to give him 10% of their income every month, when he is not in need.

If we that are not as good as God, if we know how to give good things to our children FREELY, how much more the Almighty heavenly father. (Jesus said)
Christianity EtcRe: What Made Satan To Rebel Against God. by sarmy(m): 1:10pm On Apr 08, 2011
The concept of God, satan & hell fire as we seem to understand right now does not make much sense, sorry to say
Christianity EtcRe: What Made Satan To Rebel Against God. by sarmy(m): 1:05pm On Apr 08, 2011
And why didn't God once and for all send satan and his agents to hell at that moment so d entire human race could enjoy forever without anyone else going to hell fire, that's if it actually exist
Christianity EtcRe: Nigerians And God (a Must Read!) by sarmy(m): 11:26am On Apr 07, 2011
This is a very good write up

My take is that even though some people do not believe in God, they actually practice God more than the so called religious people.

God is Love, whoever practice Love knows true God, and whoever practice religion but no love knows no God.

Most Nigerians are only practicing religion but not in tune with true God
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Did Not Tell Us Everything by sarmy(m): 12:42pm On Feb 05, 2011
mabell:
Some people say whatever cannot be found in the synoptic gospel( Mathew, Mark, Luke and John) are not authentic , but did Jesus teach everything in the synoptic gospels

I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. 13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he shall guide you into all the truth: for he shall not speak from himself; but what things soever he shall hear, these shall he speak: and he shall declare unto you the things that are to come.
John 16:12-13 (ASV)


or what were the things he did not teach, lets discuss
He gave us all the foundational knowledge, the basic truth we need to awaken and to retrace our way back to God

The remaining, he expects us to search within.

Unfortunately, religion has refuse to let go of people, we seek God out-there when he's in-there
Christianity EtcRe: God's Kingdom - Outside Or Inside? by sarmy(op): 12:22pm On Feb 05, 2011
The core message of Christ is about the Kingdom, he said it so many times that the Kingdom of God is at hand or in them.

This kingdom will not come until we know the truth about our relationship with the father and born of the Spirit

I'll say God's kingdom Jesus talked about the deeper connection between us and God not a physical plane but being awaken to our union with the father, the king of kings
Christianity EtcRe: Where Was Paul/saul When Jesus Was Alive by sarmy(op): 12:03pm On Feb 05, 2011
Food for Thought:-

If Paul /Saul was a young adult in Jerusalem at the time Jesus was alive and never heard of his fame

If he had visions of Jesus ONLY

If his epistles were written before the gospel

and If the gospels were written many years after Jesus died

Were the gospels written to fill the gaps in the Epistles so as to create religion?



Which ever way, I love Christ - Only the Truth can set Free.
Christianity EtcRe: Where Was Paul/saul When Jesus Was Alive by sarmy(op): 11:42am On Feb 05, 2011
Joagbaje:
Paul was born in Rome,Tarsus was a Roman town. he had roman citizenship,before he came back to Israel,

Acts 16:37
37 But Paul replied,"Oh no they don't! They have publicly beaten us without trial and jailed us-- and we are Roman citizens!


he was a youth , even after the resurrection. At the stoning of Stephen . He was called a young youth.

 Acts 7:58
58 And cast[ him] out of the city, and stoned[ him]: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man's [/b]feet, whose name was Saul
.

Not every one believed in christ in his lifetime. Even some of his family members didn't believe in him either.
Thks I understand your point, although he was born in Tarsus he was brought up in Jerusalem and during the persecution, [b]he was a young man not a young boy

He would probably be above 20, he was very zealous in Jewish religion, he could have easily heard something about Jesus, most especially when he came triumphantly into Jerusalem, both old and young called him Messiah, some women even laid their cloths on the way and was such a huge event.
Christianity EtcRe: Where Was Paul/saul When Jesus Was Alive by sarmy(op): 11:27am On Feb 05, 2011
Knight1:
He was possibly around sef. Jesus was percieved as a prophet in those days. Nobody really persecuted them until after the resurrection so it's possible he was in 'law school' of Gamaliel and[b] heard about one Prophet Jesus. [/b]
He would have mentioned that in any of his epistles

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