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duduspace:We make money, we spend it and we win trophies. Arsenal make money, they do spend it and they don't win trophies. Yep, good career move for Ashley Cole, Gallas also won trophies with Chelsea. So its not about the player but about the club and its spending. How old exactly? the core of the youngsters bought at that time are still in their early 20s. We will improve the squad in the transfer market but the core of the team will still be our youngsters who came through.Arshavin(29) Almunia(32) Eduardo(27) Rosicky(29) Van Persie(26) Gallas(32) Sagna(27) Young players indeed. |
dayokanu:That is how he's been lying with his transfer fees for ages. It was the WAGE BILL of 2006/7 done by Deloitte that exposed Wenger's secrets. He pays those useless players large sums of money per week. The difference between our wage bill and theirs is insignificant. Yet you wonder how Arsenal spend so much and they don't have Ronaldo, Rooney, Rio, Berbatov, Nani, Anderson, Hargreaves. |
dayokanu:I remember providing this evidence to Debosky some years ago. . . . . |
duduspace:During that drought of 3 years, we won the FA cup and a Carling Cup to boot! You have won nowt for 5 years. . . .FIVE FREAKING YEARS. We paid nothing for Gallas, he was swapped for Ashley Cole and 5m (if yu've forgotten) while we got Rosicky for 6.5m, its no use going into the individual details, the net sum speaks for itself. And those figures are from Sky who are known to be anti Arsenal if anything. You still outspent us by a clear 100+mYou lost a talent of 25 milla swapping Ashley Cole for Gallas. The dumbest piece of transfer ever by the moronic Wenger. Cole has won titles for Chelsea since then, what has Gallas won? Its irrelevant why they spent so much money, you can't spend what you don't have (or was given them by Abramovic). Those values from Sky are Net spends.Keep making dud excuses as to why Wenger has fallen off. . . . He's useless beyond useless. Years ago, he used age as his excuses. Thank God, his babies are now grown-ups(that excuse has been dropped), he has now turned to using NET SPEND as his excuse. |
Emperoh:If Fergie won't build his team around Berbatov then it's hugely moronic for any fan to expect Berbatov to score 30+ goals per season. It's as simple as that. Tevez is enjoying himself in Citeh where he's calling the shots and their god. The penalty-kicks, the free-kicks are now Tevez's responsibility - a role he can never cop at Man Utd and when he scores from such situations, fans rant Tevez has scored Bleep goals and Berba hasn't. . . . Get some perspective, will ya? Emperoh:U can run a midfield in several ways---Fletcher is a destroyer, he's not a creative midfielder like Cesc, Lampard, etc. Fletcher's strength of breaking up play does not make Berbatov a better player. He needs a creative player to function properly. Emperoh:Stop these brain-farts of yours. We had an argument where i said Carrick was better than Gerrard(based on their CURRENT FORM) as at then. This season, Carrick has been shyte and he's so shyte these days he has not even kicked a ball for United in the past 2 games or so. Emperoh:Berbatov was their god in SPURS. He takes their penalty-kicks, he scored freekicks for SPURS. The responsibility falls on his shoulder. Martin Jol built the team around him with ball-playing midfielders and an intelligent strike partner in Robbie Keane. U keep ranting about Tevez, he scored 5 league goals last season with all his prowess. I remember the season Tevez arrived in United. . . .Ronaldo saw RED against Pompey and Wazza had broken his metatarsal. Tevez was given the role to lead the line against Eriksson's Citeh, United were beaten like babies and Micah Richards made Tevez look like a twunt! The return leg at OT was the same story----Rooney missed the match, Tevez couldn't lead the line and United were beaten at OT. Emperoh:Kanu has only scored 12 league goals ONCE in his entire football career spanning almost 20 years. Try another lie. ![]() Emperoh:And yet he's United's 2nd top scorer this season. I laugh in Urhobo. . . . . . .Berbatov is more United standard than 90% of our players. He's outscored Anelka, Bellamy, Jerome, Kuyt, etc and this is the same Berba that's playing with a knee injury that requires surgery and hasn't scored a goal directly from a set-play. Emperoh, go to bed and hug your bible. |
duduspace:CR7 was bought in 2003 for 12 million------United had sold Veron(15 milla) and Beckham at 25 milla before Ronaldo was bought. In 2004, United paid 27 milla for Rooney. . . . .The account still balanced. We sold 40 milla, we spent 39 milla. ![]() The point is we stopped spending (both in transfers and wages) while you lot continued. Changes in spending patterns are not that immediately reflected as there are existing contracts to be wound up.Stopped spending? The difference is United spent on productive players whilst Wenger continued buying duds. Buying Vidic and Evra was a masterstroke for Fergie while Wenger bought an erratic Gallas and a spineless Rosicky. That is why Chelsea had to spend more because they had to meet up first, have a bedding in period and then compete., only they've not been smart enough to freshen up their squad.Chelsea spent more cos they did massive clear-outs. Zola, Ed Goey, Babayaro, Melchiot, Hasselbaink, Zenden, Scott Parker, Forssell, Mutu, Gronkjaer all went out and they had to replace them. |
chic2pimp:So is 3 million enough excuse for Wenger not to have won the league? |
duduspace:That was the only player we bought that season. . . . We sold Tim Howard(4 milla), David Jones(1 million), Mikel Obi(12 milla) and Van Nistelrooy(11 milla) So what are you talking about? We spent 18, we made 28 milla and still won the league. Ibime:What is their wage bill in comparison to Arsenal? |
chic2pimp:Don't be deceived. As at 2006/7, Man Utd's wage bill was £92.3m compared to Arsenal's £89.7m The difference is less than £3m and yet United won the title that season. |
slimshay:Walcott was 12 milla------Same price United paid for Cristiano Ronaldo Eduardo was 16 milla-----Sunderland paid 10 milla for Darren Bent Vermaelen was 10 milla-----Vidic cost 7 million. Nasri was 16 milla-------Malouda was 13 milla. |
chic2pimp:He has gooners wrapped around his fingers because gooners themselves are retards. They know nowt about accounting and Wenger being an economist knows how to pull the wool over their eyes. P:S Can Someone Pls Tell Me What Arsenal's Wage Bill was During the Times of Henry, Vieira, Campbell,Pires and Co.NET SPEND 01/02>>>>>>>>>>>£10,976,000(EPL + FA Cup) 02/03>>>>>>>>>>>£890,000(FA Cup) 03/04>>>>>>>>>>>£16,650,000(EPL+ Community Shield) 04/05>>>>>>>>>>>£1,600,000(FA Cup) 05/06>>>>>>>>>>>£6,780,000(won nothing) ---------------------------(MOVED TO THE EMIRATES) 06/07>>>>>>>>>>> -£17,000,000(won nothing) 07/08>>>>>>>>>>>£13,400,000(won nothing) 08/09>>>>>>>>>>>-£50,000(won nothing) 09/10>>>>>>>>>>>-£31,000,000(won nothing) Arsene Wenger has no excuse. . . . . . He had -£31,000,000 to work with but Man Utd had -£56,500,000 to work with this season and SAF has already won a trophy and possibly a league title is on it's way. |
chic2pimp:I wonder o. Nothing was said about their outrageous wage bill that is almost the same amount as Man Utd's. Wenger woke up this morning to give excuses about money he does not have and reh reh reh. Mind you, watching a league game @ the Emirates costs more than watching a football game anywhere on the planet. What is eating their revenue? |
dayokanu:Scholes grew older Giggs grew older Hargreaves/Anderson got crocked. We still rely on those veterans to pull us out of trouble in big games - which says a lot about the midfield we currently have. Everton have a better midfield. SAF knows he must sort that midfield this summer. |
duduspace:Portsmouth are a smaller club than Arsenal. Their stadium cannot even fill 20,000 fans, never mind 60,000 like the Emirates. Income is low, overheads are HIGH so they are bound to collapse one way or the other. Why has Aston Villa never been to the UCL?Aston Villa operate on a mean budget - even tighter than what Wenger's working on and they are not doing badly. Like i have said. . . .By default, Arsenal are the 3rd/4th best team in England(whether Wenger spends or not). Qualifying for Europe can never be an achievement cos that same team would achieve it under Onigbinde or Tunde Disu. Well good thing yu aint Platini or all clubs would have to go into relegation or administration to advance their fortunes. And be careful what you wish for, by the time Platini does decide to make that decision, y'all might be the ones trying to get into the top 4 then, with your existing debts I'm not so sure yu'll be able to pull it off.With our existing debts, we have won 3 league titles in a row + 2 European finals. With our existing debts, we have been able to keep Wenger TROPHYLESS for the past 5 seasons. With our existing debts, we will finish ahead of Arsenal for the 5th time in a row. |
dayokanu:Because Fergie has belatedly realised his midfield is shitty and can only PLAY one way(via the flanks) How many goals did we score via the flanks against Bayern? There lies your answer. . . Extend him for 20yrs, Help Europe get rid of duds, Mop duds off the marketI can almost guarantee if we sell Berbatov to a Champions League rival you will hear the phrase "The forgotten man Dimitar Berbatov returns to haunt United" being screamed in a commentary over a semi-final game by the time you get married. tkb417:Your midfielders must provide a good service for their striker. If they fail, the striker will fail. The difference between Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo is XAVI!!!!!! |
jay bee:When you play him as a lone striker, his team-mates are too silly to play to his strengths. They still play the game as if it's Rooney leading the line. Our midfielders are not intelligent. . . . .Tell me one time any of our midfielders has laid a pass on the plate for Berbatov like he laid Valencia against Blackburn. They either overhit their passes or underhit it and they expect the Bulgarian to run 300mph like Rooney to chase the ball. He is not that type of player. Dude is a costly £30 mil waste pipeHe didn't tag himself £30 million. SAF was silly enough to splash such amount on Berbatov - that's SAF's fault. By fuming that he is a £30 million wastepipe, you're doing the equivalent of someone who bought a normal TV in a black market at the cost of a Plasma TV and complaining his TV can't work like a Plasma TV. Even Berba himself said he's not worth £25 million(never mind 30 milla) before joining Man Utd BERBATOV BLASTS PRICE TAG And yet, blind and spastic fans beat him with the price-tag. How's that his fault? I bet mame diouf will score more goals than molotv if deployed as a lone striker and play comparable games with him.Mame Diouf scoring more goals than Berbatov if deployed is your wet-dream. Can we wait till it happens before you start assuming? Which flowing efficient footie? Our system is heavily reliant on the wingers. If they have a bad day, United will have a horrible day. A good team must be able to play through the middle. . . .The flanks should be the plan B--not the main plan. Fergie must buy creative midfielders next season. Our system rely too much on Nani/Valencia and Rooney scoring from crosses. With Rooney absent, our midfielders cannot play to Berba's strength and thus we fail woefully. |
duduspace:This is a very lethargic way of summarising what's happening at Arsenal. Who cares about the NET SPEND in Arsenal? Give us the player wage bills in comparison to the other teams? Whatz the NET SPEND of Portsmouth when they won the FA cup in 2008? Whatz the NET SPEND of Aston Villa who have already been to WEMBLEY twice this season? Arsene Wenger is a failure and he's lucky 4 teams represent England in the UCL. By default, Arsenal are the 4th best team in England so whether they spend or not, finishing 4th is 100% certain. I hope Platini strips the 4 places in Europe into 3 or 2. |
debosky:Bendtner is the lone striker in Arsenal. . . . .If he doesn't score, i dunno who else would. Stop mixing apple and oranges. By the same token, is Darren Bent better than Anelka? Is Bent better than Bellamy/Adebayor/Kuyt? It's about the system/formation deployed to suit the best striker in a squad. I have no doubt in me mind Berba will score 30 goals in a team like Citeh/SPURS/Aston Villa cos the managers there will build a team to play to Berba's strengths(being the best they have got) - which is not the case in Man Utd. |
Emperoh:Same intelligence that got him 28 goals this season has condemned Craig Bellamy and Adebayor to become peripheral players at Citeh. Which brings me back to my point. U cannot have 2 arrowheads in a team. The game has evolved. To make Tevez score 30 goals in United, Rooney or Berba must be sacrificed. To make Berba score 35 goals here, a lot of things must change at United and that is getting rid of our old midfielders and sign ball-playing midfielders like Nasri, Ireland and Cesc. Emperoh:Berbatov and Rooney are different type of strikers. Rooney is an all rounder, Berbatov is not and we knew what we were getting when we paid £31 million for his services. To make Berba score 40 goals in United, the team has to be built AROUND him. We would have to get rid of our one dimensional football. Berbatov thrives with intelligent passes around the edge of the penalty box. Things players like Nasri and Cesc are experts at doing. Unfortunately, in Man Utd these days. . . . .We don't have such players. What we have got are midfielders who spray passes to the flanks 10 times out of 10. Our penetration this season has majorly been through the flanks or when we catch teams on the break. Emperoh:When Rooney and Tevez were here, they were both outscored by Ronaldo so whatz your point? That same season, Rooney scored 12 from 27 league apps and Tevez got 14 from 34 league apps. Has Berba done worse this season judging from those stats? Emperoh:Rubbish talks. He supplied Valencia with the pass of the season - something Xavi and Zidane woulda been proud of but the Ecuadorian missed from 4 yards. How's it Berba's fault that Luis Valencia is a stupid player? |
Emperoh:Tevez's intelligence that only got him 5 league goals in 29 appearances? Priceless!!!! Emperoh:Man Utd play 4-5-1 in big games. . . . . . .It's not Berba's fault. . . .That formation is preferred because United's midfield have gone WEAK. Fergie prefers 5 midfielders so his midfield does not get over-run which means only one striker can start and Rooney is that striker. If we had Hargo/Anderson then it woulda been 4-4-2 in every game like SPURS or Bayern Munich. Blame your woeful midfield, not Berba. Emperoh:Berba does not fit in - i quite agree with that. Our midfield's intelligence is below Berba's wavelength. They cannot play their way through the middle with intelligent passes that can cut opponents into shreds like Arsenal or even SPURS. Scholes/Fletcher always play through the wings relying heavily on Nani/Valencia to provide crosses for Rooney to score. . . .We are too predictable. |
Emperoh:The most intelligent striker in Man Utd bar none. . . . .Had Berba missed the chance Rooney missed against Citeh, people woulda crucified him. It's a shame we have buncha retards in our team who cannot play to Berba's strengths. presido1:If he's lost confidence in him, he wouldn't have played him in the last 2 games. Ask Michael Carrick, if you don't believe me. United play 4-5-1(lone striker). Of course, Rooney can play that role much more than Berbatov. It has nothing to do with Berba's failings. If we had Hargreaves and Anderson fit, Berba will start every game in a 4-4-2 system. Manc am have this feeling that Liverpool will hand this tittle to chavs for one reason. To stop United winning it the 19th time. They will sacrifice their Europa to see that happen. We can only bank on Stoke now and the other club.Chelsea will drop points in the other games. Never ever rely on Liverpool to do a job for you. tkb417:Benzema na striker? How many goals has he scored for Real Madrid this season? if he doesnt kick well, sauron will say the passes werent good, if he hits the ball but couldnt find target, Sauron will say no other striker woulda done that, to me, anybody who feels Berba has done well and should not be sold to Urawa reds in Japan shd be banned from this forumBerbatov has done very well this season. Anyone expecting Berbatov to have scored 28 goals like Tevez is a lunatic. Tevez is the main striker in Citeh, Rooney is the main man in United. No single team can have 2 "main man" cos that means United woulda scored 120 goals this season - and football does not work that way. |
debosky:https://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/Smileys/default/lmao.gifhttps://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/Smileys/default/lmao.gif |
aieromon:Brittle-boned players. Had he bought those players, they woulda been injured as well. Wenger is an idiot with the type of players he signs. Chamakh is another Nasri in a centre forward position. No guts, no fibre, no fight. He will be another Eduardo - mark me words! |
duduspace:How has United's debt affected their performance on the pitch? Their most glorious years were under the Glazers - between 2007 and 2009. 3 League titles + 2 Champions League finals in a row. I am 100% certain 99% Arsenal fans would take that before 6 Trophyless seasons and having $500 Trillion in their reserves. |
Eastbay:Roll Call. . . . Doyin13 Krayola AgabaI23 Debosky HNIC Dr. Kitaun Loyika Eldee Duduspace Another reason why Arsenal need deliverance.How can someone who tops the premiership in appearances from the bench be an asset?Thank God the Dud didn't break his ankle this time around.Otherwise,we for no hear word again,like 2008.He copped hernia this season but letz be honest, if he was fit throughout. . . . .He woulda scored 40 league goals this season. Eduardo was the top scorer in his league before coming to Arsenal and Brazil might recall him for the world cup this summer cos Dunga has belatedly realised Eduardo is better than Kaka, Pato and Fabiano. ![]() |
agabaI23:How is it Wenger's fault FFS? Arsenal players were more expensive than the mediocre Wigan players. Wenger chose a team good enough to beat Beelzebub outta Wigan. . . . .His tactics were right as Arsenal were leading 2-0 with 10 mins to go. What happened in the last 10 mins couldn't have been Wenger's fault. Your players bottled it. duduspace:At this rate, it would take the best part of a millennium before Arsene Wenger builds a title winning team. Wenger has been building a team since 2005. When will he finish building? This gnashing of teeth must stop before Debosky commits suicide. ![]() |
presido1:But Eduardo hasn't played for them. If they had Eduardo, they woulda beaten SPURS and Wigan today. Eduardo is the best striker in Europe. . . . .Surely, Arsenal have a rotten luck and shitty fans. ![]() |
BlueDiva:OT is a tall order for SPURS. They couldn't even beat a team of Obertan, Gibson, Owen, Fabio and KitKat in the CC. Man Utd 2-0 SPURS. |
Wigan fans humiliated Arsene Wenger. I kept hearing. . . . "2-0 and you f[i]u[/i]cked it up" "2-0 and you f[i]u[/i]cked it up" "2-0 and you f[i]u[/i]cked it up" "2-0 and you f[i]u[/i]cked it up" |
loyika:I never thunk i would see the day Loyika will admit Eduardo is a global fraud. ![]() |
Eastbay:Jokes aside, should Arsene Wenger now resign? ![]() |
Dr Kitaun:IT'S A FECKING DISGRACE. . . . . . https://i43.tinypic.com/14ui442.jpg |
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