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segzy14:
Make sure toilet doors are 900mm , people don't use 750mm doors.

Thanks for offering to 'HELP' - however as an Architect I know what's standard.

Please find attached page 184 of Architects Data which requires 700mm + 50mm (frame) for ancillary spaces e.g toilet, stores etc and 900mm for front doors.

Architecture is not about what people use, its about standards and professionalism... thanks again Sir.
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Dembuk2009:
Cadsolution,
You may not be perfect, but I am delighted to have started dis project with u!

I will continue to brief d house... Thanks to u all one more time!

Thanks ma.. we appreciate your comments and commitment to use our services.... Namaste


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@ Rubbiish - your sincere and matured criticism is welcome and appreciated...


Nice meeting me..

Rubbiish:
I don't know if it is because of land constraint
The entrance porch should be extended to d last wall, area covered in red in d pic below.
The current one seems too small for the building, it is more like a self con terrace.

Nice point made here...... #ThumpUp.. Its possible to extend sideways but not forward because of land. I'll adjust asap

segzy14:
I stand to be corrected but is that how a change of floor level is represented in architecture?

Sir.... Its not a competition... I'm here to share and gain knowledge and ensure my clients get the best...

To answer ur question - Yes (with an arrow labeled up or with a +150mm etc label and no arrow)

If my answer above is wrong.. Kindly share how.. I'm willing to learn also.

segzy14:
I can see the "rail " and a wall, or what do you have there after the rail sir?

The double line u see is the thickness of the rail and the 1st line is the change in level also clearly stated with the arrow and stairs up label..

Thanks for your concerns..

Chukazu:
The foundation really high ...is it a sloppy ground?


Love it though..".more like house on the rock"

It's a swampy area below water level...

segzy14:
You put a wall dividing the living room and dining though not too long. Are you not seeing it?

Kindly Zoom in... . Its label RAIL not a wall...


I just want to relax and learn from comments so I won't reply again...

Rubbiish:
No single window in the dining area?

If it's enclosed... Yes

But in this design, it's not enclosed..... No wall, no door and the dining has a direct line of air flow from the living room front windows

Following

Teewhy2:
Nice one open, what about the tie rod to hold the ceiling or rails in case of suspended ceiling.

Thanks Teewhy2.. I designed my tutorials in a way beginners can get it.

No one can learn cost estimation in one topic, so I limited this tutorial to ASBESTOS and PVC only.. The accessories na Ceiling 201... Lol

Thanks again.

Good-Day - Last class we learnt how to calculate the numbers of block needed for a project; if you missed that its available here >> https://www.nairaland.com/4191428/how-calculate-how-many-blocks

I'll be taking us on calculating the quantity and approximate cost of Asbestos ceiling sheet and PVC ceiling for a mini-flat (I have attached a plan for this purpose) and as usual our measurement would be done using the standard millimeter (mm) and meters (m) mode of measuring.

Note: If you're not familiar with the millimeters / meters tape, then find time to learn it or request for a tutorial in the comment box.

It would have been ideal to start with measuring roofing sheet but I decided to take a more simple task of measuring ceiling sheets so as to prepare us for the next and more complex task of measuring the roofing sheet... (lets get to business)

Things to do:

1. If you're measuring from your Architectural drawings, then ensure the basic dimensions are clear i.e the length and breath of each space.

2. If you're measuring from an existing project (i.e on site) write out all the spaces on a paper and write the dimension of each space before it e.g BEDROOM = 3600mm by 3600mm OR 3.6m by 3.6m (millimeter or meters)

3. Well, the next thing to note is identify the particular ceiling sheet you plan to use and its standard size (length and breath) e.g Asbestos ceiling sheet = 1200mm by 1200mm; PVC ceiling = 5,950mm by 250m and POP board = 600mm by 600mm. If you're using any other ceiling board, just get the size.

Once the information above is gotten, you can proceed to calculating how much board you'll need per space.

There are 2 methods of calculating the quantities - use whichever you find easier (we would calculate the living room using both methods and calculate others using only one of the methods). Now to business.

1. MATERIALS NEEDED FOR LIVING ROOM (using ASBESTOS 1200mm by 1200mm)

Living Room: Method One (Area)
This method simply implies finding the area of the space in question and diving it by the area of ceiling material to find out how many is needed.

Living Room = 3.9 x 4.5 = 17.55m2
Area of materials = 1.2 x 1.2 = 1.44m2

Hence: if 1 board = 1.44m2 how many board is in 17.55m2
= 17.55 / 1.44
= 12.19 boards = 13 boards (because you cannot buy 0.1 board, you have to buy 1 full board)

Lets use method Two:

Living Room: Method Two (L by B)
This method is a bit complex where the ceiling material isn't a square, it just needs a bit more care.

Size of Living Room; L= 3.9m by B=4.5m
Size of Ceiling Material; l= 1.2 by b= 1.2

Now Divide L by l and B by b = 3.9 / 1.2 and 4.5 /1.2 (just divide the upper nos by the nos below it)

= 3.25 and 3.75 (now multiple both)
= 3.25 x 3.75 = 12.19 = 13 boards.

Simple right ? but lets solve using method two only for PVC ceiling of size 5.95m by 0.25m below.

1. MATERIALS NEEDED FOR LIVING ROOM (using PVC 5,950mm by 250mm)

Size of Living Room; L= 3.9m by B=4.5m
Size of Ceiling Material; l= 5.95 by b= 0.25

Now Divide L by l and B by b = 3.9 / 5.95 and 4.5 /0.25 (just divide the upper nos by the nos below it)

= 0.66 and 18 (now multiple both)
= 0.66 x 18 = 11.88 = 12 pieces.

Simple right? You should try same using the Area method also.

THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO ENSURE YOU GET THE RIGHT SIZE OF YOUR CEILING MATERIAL FROM YOUR LOCAL MARKET OR TRUSTED SOURCE (NOT GOOGLE) because THE GOOGLED SIZE MIGHT NOT BE AVAILABLE IN YOUR REGION.

Now that we know the principles - Let's quickly find out how many of the 1.2m by 1.2 asbestos board we would need.

Terrace = (5.06 / 1.44) = 4 pcs
Living Room = (17.55 / 1.44) = 13 pcs
Kitchen = (10.8 / 1.44) = 8 pcs
Store = (4.02 / 1.44) = 3 pcs
Bedroom 1 = (12.96 / 1.44) = 9 pcs
Bedroom 2 = (12.96 / 1.44) = 9 pcs
Toi / Bath = (2.97 / 1.44) = 3 pcs
Space b4 Bedroom = (1.35 / 1.44) = 1 pc

HENCE TOTAL = 50 pcs only - Normally there is no waste for this material (or ideally we have added it into the calculation when we approximated to the nearest whole number; Hence buy only 50 pcs + 1 more = 51 pcs only.

COST OF ASBESTOS BOARD....

Presently Nigerite Asbestos goes for between N1,400 - N1,500 per one; hence:
51 pcs x N1,500 = N76.5k (always add for transportation to site)

OKAY!!! - Thanks for following, practice using other ceiling materials and ask questions. (Our next class would be calculating roofing sheet)


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Congrats....

bugativeron:
I am in the bid to roof my house and I am constrained to weigh different options due to cost implication. the cost I got for my roof design including facial wall for the roof is about 2m. However, I started thinking about flat roof designs may be it will be cheaper and beautiful.

My questions,
1. What are the pros and cons of it in Nigeria?
2. Is it cheaper to do and what volume of savings?
3. Is it affected by rain or sun reflection on the building?
4. Do Nigerians use or not?
5. If they don't why?



cheers

A quotation of 2 million.. . That must be a very big project..

Back to your question, we use flat roof and except you're NOT doing it to standard it shd cost more than the aluminum roofing... Can u share ur roof design?

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Lagos shd copy same..


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maybe u shd attach a picture of the property also...... goodluck

tomsy2:
I've modified your post with responses. Thanks for taking the time to respond Sir. I'm indebted.

YES, i expected you would get land in a cheaper region - if the money is managed well with a lot of discipline; good (you know how money is, once its in hand; diff things pop up)

why not as suggested let the buyer have the original documents - then invite a lawyer to draft an agreement that he holds the paper for xyz reasons and wld be required to to return them once his papers are ready.

Lastly - If all options fail - Follow your mind; when there is health, there is wealth..... HEALTH FIRST.

Thanks

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tomsy2:
Good morning Sir, Oga saydfact. I need some advice. My mum is looking at selling off a property because of some embarrassing financial issues. The property is located in a good government estate in Ibadan. It was allocated as a double plot 120/100 but roughly subdivided by us into two. Note that the subdivision has not been approved but we erected a dividing wall and the both sides have completed buildings on them. My family lives in one of the buildings. Now that the property is up for sale all the prospective buyers are wary of the issue of subdivision despite our assurances that it would be approved for them to get their own title. They would rather buy the whole.
We are contemplating selling the whole but afraid that after selling and settling the issues on ground the balance won't be enough to build another 3 bedroom bungalow for us to move into. We have offers for N22 million which is very low. A fair forced sale should be between N25m to N28m. Similar properties in the area have rejected N 30m offers.
If we could get N25m for it and she settles issues with N15m would the remaining N10m less agents commission build something small plus cost of land?
Please advice urgently. She's killing herself with HBP and my siblings and I are of the opinion that she should sell.

Hi,
10m would not be enough to get you a new land, and build back - ideally, yes 10 min might build you a decent 3 bedroom flat but realistically, it wont considering how developed that area has becomee....

I'll advice you wait a bit more for your buyer and ignore those trying to eject you out of your property stylishly.

WHY NOT GET ALL THE RELEVANT PAPERS FOR THE SUBDIVISION AND THEN SELL AFTERWARD (Cost of acquiring those papers can be added to the initial cost)

goodluck

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