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lol you must ahve been searching really hard.

no yorubas dont claim nas and that was a rumor, just like rumors appear here and there so I can undertand that.

but The journalist actually went as far as to write a WHOLE article on it. Neyos Wiki was changed to igbo(someone changed it back to african american) even his fan website. i mean theres countless other things Id rather not go in.

but Neyo said it himself he aint Nigerian. some DUM.B chick said she knows his father compound in Anambra state- shes such a fukin liar, . . .

lol

anway sha I cannot speak for all creoles. or freetown folks
I can only say what I know about the creoles who were born in Lagos and Ogun or born in freetown and moved to Lagos and Ogun- they happen to be Oku/yoruba what ever you wanna call it.

I outtie but what I love about the creoles that came to Lagos is alot were muslims i get tired of hearing about christian crusades etc. -

Like Mohammed Shitta-Bey who built shitta bey mosque and central mosque (I think) - one of the reason why Majority indigenous Lagosians are Muslims just as Ajayi crowther did his things with christians, the likes of Shitta-Bey, alhaji King etc did their things with muslims

taken down

fstranger3:
And they've also claimed Michele Obama:


http://www.naijarules.com/vb/news-current-affairs-politics/31833-obamas-law-married-igbo-woman.html

how do we know shes igbo? her name isnt even there all it says was he married a Nigerian

thats like me saying every slave taken from the bight of benin was yoruba- when theyre binis, ijaw egun nupes hausa and fulanis who left that part of africa.

common sense.

EzeUche_:
You know the community claiming that his great grandfather is from Rivers is not an Igbo village.

And if an African American family is from Virginia or Maryland. Most likely they are descendants of Igbo. T.D. Jakes, Blair Underwood, Danny Glover are all descendants of Igbos.

hahaha that means nothing where can some one come from. Was Samuel peters (egba) not brought or born in Maryland?
professor Henry Louis Gates( the Guy who did the DNA test for the celebs) dna was yoruba he was born in west virgina.

Judge hatchetts own was Yoruba and Hausa BUT I CANNOT SAY THAT PEOPLE FROM DOWN SOUTH ARE YORUBA.

I mean how do you guys reason?

EzeUche_:
The Bight of Biafra was one of the largest source of slaves for the Americas. English colonies focused on slaves from that region, while the Portuguese and Spanish had a lot of Yoruba slaves. There is historical evidence for that.

are there no other tribes in the bight of biafra- efik, Ijaw, and probably some urhobos captured taken to them.

or that majority of black americans descended from Igbos - when all the DNA test of celebs I saw ranged from Ghana, sierra leone, Angola, Liberia (oprah) Nigeria etc.

they just need to relax or any and ever successful black person is Iigbo like Obama.

sbeezy8:
Nigeria: Rivers Community Claims Obama Has Nigerian Roots

Does the President-elect of America, Barack Obama, have roots in Nigeria? The Obama community in Rivers State says yes, claiming that the great-great-great grandfather of the next US President, who assumes office tomorrow, is their "kith and kin".

The community, which is in present-day Bakana in Degema Local Government Area of Rivers State, said the name "Bakana" was a Portuguese creation as their real name is "Obama" which means "Oba's kingdom" or "Oba's town". "Oba" means king. etc . . .

http://www.genealogyblog.com/?p=464

Obamas third great grandfather was from Rivers AHAHAHAHAHA LMFAO IM LAUGHING SOOO HARD RIGHT NOW.

fstranger3:
Very true, I dont even want them claiming Yoruba, it is an insult to the rest of us. But for excanny and his goons, I understand how they feel, with no real achievement and indigenous sophistication to point to, it is no surprise that they've resulted to claiming things alien to them in an attempt to continue to remain relevant .

Its just annoying as hell.You will never see Hausas and Yorubas claiming, it is Igbos desperate for acceptance that are always tryna claim.

PS: Try advocating for the 'break-up of Nigeria, you'd see my Igbo biatches tying to claim Edo too. Its in their blood.

igbo folks have achievement and theyre aiight I guess- they just need to stop acting kinda desperate. really weird.

like tha artcle on the net flying aroung that egbas are igbos I was like wtf ahahahahahaha LMFAO.

excanny:
Obasi(Ibibio origin)

I know someone names Obasi- but his whole name is Obasilekun- you are telling me that his name originated from Ibibio?

fstranger3:
^^^

I agree with you, Yoruba people dont claim.

its not by force to claim everything it is what it is. If an American guy gets a DNA test and it comes back to being yoruba. Im not going to tell him to start learning yoruba or wear agbada LOL. Or if theres American chick who has a yoruba name Im not going to automatically think yea"she must have descended from yoruba".

Ive met enough people with Kwame name- to know that not every person who bears the name is from Ghana. Kwame kilpatrick ( Detroit mayor with sex scandal), Kwame brown( Nba player) ,

excanny:
Your arguments are really flawed. Every shared word has an original source if you trace it well.

Ojo(definitely Yoruba origin)

Obasi(Ibibio origin)

Olorogun(likely of Yoruba origin from the way it's constructed. Many Yoruba words look like that. E.g olorioko, olowo,olomo, etc)

bull sh.it If uhrobo says its urhobo then great for them we dont do all that claiming ish.

As for pres Chris Okoro Cole I cannot say whether he is igbo or not(as Okoro comes from different tribes) and creoles who descended from some others tribe give different type of names. cause the Blyden guys children and grand children have names ranging from Muslim names Temne names, Mandinka names, yoruba names, igbo names, fula names even Egyptians(cleopatra) and just plain weird names.

so obviously a good number of creoles do name their children after EVERYTHING under the sun. because It wasnt just a yoruba igbo only thing there are west indie and American slave descendants of others like Twi Ga Ewe Hausa Fulani as well as nupe(cause we have nupe-yoruba creoles in Lagos) to thousands of other African tribes. but being a descendant is different than actually being.

the creole group she commented ON specifically was Oku. probably because they actually have a language while other creoles have blended into being just speaking krio just as black americans are just black americans.

she said there is creole (probably the general term for slave descendants regardless of tribal origin) and oku/creole which is different than being just "creole" maybe they still spoke their language? maybe a good amount were muslims?

I dont do claiming so I cant say every creole who has a Oku/yoruba name is actually a Oku/ yoruba. But what I can say is that every creole - Oku person is related to yoruba. not because of name(that dont mean SHIOT) but because of cultural practices, Language. etc.

henry101:
Do you have a comprehension problem?
He said there are Krios of Igbo origin.
He didnt say there are Igbos i n freetown.
Are there yorubas in Freetown?

You know Edward wilmot blyden is of Igbo origin yet 2 of his kids have yoruba names and 2 others have Igbo names.
Do that mean He's Yoruba in freetown or Krio of Yoruba origin?

na you guys got it wrong cause she said that Kanu is NOT igbo in freetown and KRIOS DONT BEAR THE NAME KANU either but Temne who are NOT krio but indigenous salone peeps.

and Ezeagu DID say that Alhaji Kanu GUY WAS IGBO- she corrected him and said HE IS TEMNE. SHE SAID HE CANNOT BE CREOLE BECAUSE KRIOS have english surnames.

excanny:
@ Physics

You are right when you say that 'Okoro' as a name is not exclusive to Igbos. You of all people should know that the Igbos, Binis, Urhobos, Isokos, Itshekiris used to have trades and wars among themselves before the advent of the British, hence the shared word. That however does not mean that a shared word has no original source.

For example, Essence(the nigerian singer) bears Okoro as her family name, yet she's Itshekiri by tribe.

The article you posted as to the origin of the name 'okoro' is a debate for another day. But with the versatility that name is used in Igbo, I can bet it's of Igbo origin(okonkwo, okoronkwo, okoroafor, okafor, etc). No other groups using this name have different forms of the same name like this.

Additionally, the author Peter Ekeh is an Urhobo(maybe Isoko) man who was trying to be one-sided towards disclaiming an Igbo origin to the name. I'm sure if you ask him, he wouldn't even know that his own last name is still of Igbo origin.

Peter ekeh name probably of urhobo origin. Is Ojo Only of yoruba origin? did every Obasi originate from Yoruba or Edo? did the name Olorogun (urhobo) originate from yoruba? I think not.

Ibori could have def been president of naija

He was liked by all - pics of him in the north with sultan, pics of him I think at one of Oonis previous b days. dude definately knew how to network

I think he was the main ones breaking up the fight during the patricia etteh saga

mukina2:
wetin u wan take my oku name do i dunno if i have one jor
I can understand some of it not all, the pronunciation sef varies.
Most of the words  mixed with daily krio sef has oku in it.

Like my grandma will say 'hurry oh Ojo want sokaleh '. when its about to rain or she'll say time for 'elaykew' . Sometimes we pretend we do not understand, and when the cane comes out we say we forgot what t meant

I know Ojo = rain
I busted out laughing when I saw "Sokaleh" at first I was like wtf is dat   then I thought OHHHHH "so kale"  LMFAO

hahaha yea I totally get you   thats something a Lagos person who learned english IN Lagos would say. I think its the creole returnees that tought english to the rest of yoruba peeps . cause the way we in Lagos(yoruba) speak broken is different from the rest of Naija.

lolz

ok can I have her number?

will she now send us nekkid pic ?

im just wondering nothing in life free ohhhh

what is she tryin to do?

mukina2:
lol salone was nice too na before the war and its still nice    
Jalloh is Fula. They are mostly from Guinea Conakry. They are mostly light skinned too.

Lol leave those surnames alone oh

I am Temne on one side and oku/mende on the other side.
Most days i  just say i am temne, when the grandmas start saying things in oku to us in public ( the kinda thing that will want to make you want to disappear), i just say i am temne thank you (jokingly oh) lol and na serious cussing go follow after the lectures resume then i gave birth to your this and that you are this blah blah
and being oku your extended family never ends , everyone is your aunt/uncle/relative

lol do you have an Oku name ? you understand Oku ? If a Nigerian yoruba was to speak some "yoruba" "Oku/Aku" would you be able to like understand it ?

The creole FAM I know well my aunts and uncles can only understand and speak the lanuguage(Yoruba) because they either have Nigerian "yoruba" mothers or went to schools in Lagos. and I guess when they got to nigeria they didnt call themselves Oku they called themselves yoruba instead- I guess cause that what everyone started calling themselves at one point or another for unity among the language speakers.

mukina2:
ehn i have no problem with the names being similar but this guys are making it seem like igbos are the only ones with 'okoro' name.
ok, there are lots of Nigerians in Freetown, especially Foulah town/central area, hausas/yorubas mostly, we had plenty in our street, some never moved back and you wont even know they are Nigerians, you'll mistake them for s/leoneans. i am not surprised some never even say they are Nigerians.
ehn ehn

I wouldnt even call them Nigerian ewww dayum I wish my parents came from some other country where some yoruba speakers are like Benin togo ghana, SALONE(after the war) LOL  SOMETIN anytin but Nigeria

mukina2:
Politics in sierra Leone can be defined as 'a round peg in a square hole' , and it is tight race between temne and mende the two largest ethnic groups.
Other ethnic groups come close but nothing major

yea like  folks with the name Kamara Koroma Bah Sesay Conteh (theres alot where I live)- I think Jalloh is a fulani name  not sure some look fulani some dont well i dont know what fulani loks like since some are dark some are light

what are you ?

@mukina

Infact its weird I just noticed my cuzzos dont call themselves Nigerian but say they are from sierre leone if people ask dem where they are from.

mukina2:
oh yeah what language? you are evil
i asked because most people say 'saro' not 'salone' especially non Sierra Leoneans and i know you are not from freetown.

yea im a Lagos boy/yankee guy but its most of the uncles and aunts who were born in freetown later moved to Naija.

yoruba ACN igbo APGA PPA or what ever, Hausa ANPP CPC or what.

no diluting of the parties

mukina2:
who taught you 'salone'?

"taught" how can someone teach a creole (like me) about the word "salone"?
its one of those things I pick up around fam, friends

you kno the same way I may say naija, hahahah I cant believe you asked my that question.

alj harem1:
yes you are missing a lot because igbos are the weakest people in africa

they never had an empire nor a king, thus no ruler to coordinate them in battle

hausa people, fulani people, kanuri people, even yoruba and edo people all have kings and leaders to coordinate them so it is a bit difficult to tell them NO if they want to secede

igbos are known to be secessionist even to there ethnic group

moreover igbos can leave so long it is just the 5 igbo states and nothing else unlike biafra that had, cross river, akwa ibom, baleysea etc

hahahaha lol

alj harem1:
gbammm, remember some of our northern brothers have oil blocks in niger/delta and south-east

that way northern solders can secure those oil blocks and can through air we can be getting some of the oil in the north

remember most southerners are dishonest people, the yorubas will not remember 3rd mainland bridge by ibb (a northerner)

the igbos will not remember health services and others things they have benefitted from northern leaders including abacha

all they do is hate and hate

well i still support solders been taken to south-south and south-east to protect our brothers that are drilling the oil for us

hahaha funniest thing ever

ribadu cannot even win in his state let alone Nigeria.
ACN dont need him hes nothing just looks good as a young Northerner. F . .  hIM

ASL33:
Na Nsiman wrote that article to vanguard.

Their is something i don't understand, why should we support the huasas to go but not the ibos. Am i missing something?

we supprt both them to gooooo-

shiot happens everyday in America to a black man wtf are youuuuu talking about

chyz:
Any sensible Northerner would not call such a man a leader. Go read up on the Benin Massacre of 1967.

http://asabamemorial.org/news/press/

How nice!

We hear of the benin massacre, the warri massacre, the sapele massacre, the asaba massacre. But  we dont here of much if ANY of the Ibadan massacre(aside from the military barracks) we dont hear of Ogbomoso massacre, Osogbo massarce, Akure massacre, Abeokuta massacre, Ile ife Massacre Ado ekiti Massacre . . .

Yet we hear yoruba dis n dat all day long - they way biafran talk you would think the whole west of Nigeria joined in ont he "massacring"

fstranger3:
I thought it was 90%

The last time I checked it was 95%, but since the emergence of the OPC, the number, I heard, has been pegged to 90%.

lol

GUY YOU GOT IT WRONG- ibo contribute atleast 100% to lagos economically and population wise they are 75% of Lagos infact Tinubu Fashola are all ibos, . .

mukina2:
handful where? I can name 10/20 creole/oku/foulahtong people with yoruba names but ask me to name 10 with igbo sounding names i'll struggle to make 5. I only gave that example because you assumed my uncle is igbo related.

All through out school ,  the only igbo sounding name i knew was one chukwuemeka(sp)
Who is turning against igbo? rewrite history or not. we do not have igbo tribe in freetown.
I call myself mukina i do not know what you call yourself. and keep the getting personal out of this.

ogini egebchi anya ibo kwenu! j/k

Some Salone people I  know have "oku" names and know what Oku is, but they dont know what yoruba is cause the name "Yoruba" is foreign from our lanuage created by the British for specifically Nigerians who speak the language. So what we say in Nigeria say is 'yoruba' if we want to be an ethnic group but others in other countries call it

Salone -Oku
Ghana- they might say Tabom or Oyo, Ilorin
Cuba- they might say Lucumi
Benin republic they might say Ajase, Ketu
Brazil they might say Nago, Aguda, also  Ketu

There are different type of yorubas peeps tho- dummies in Nigeria think we are all the same

Just like a fulani person in Nigeria will say they are fulani but in other countries people will identify with fula, peul, fulbe, bororo, fulfide, wodaabe

its between the NW and the SW- point blank and im even tlking bar Lagos.

The South-West zone with its 15million votes is expected to be a deciding battlefield. This is because despite its recent loss of two additional states to the opposition, the PDP still remains a formidable political party. Buhari may have to forget about winning states like Oyo, Osun, Ekiti and Ondo. Lagos is a major determinantwith its six million registered voters. The candidate who has majority of that vote will get a large chunk of South-West votes. It seems to be in favour of the incumbent president and the ACN candidate, Mallam Nuhu Ribadu,.

The voting exercise put SW with 15 million Lagos with 6 million minus Lagos etc . . the Population figure will still be 9-10 million only counting Ogun Osun Ekiti Oyo Ondo.

the deciding factor is definitely the SW- even during the PDP primaries Oyo has 150 delegates- only 120 voted.

so what ever obiajulu who concluded that dumb graph is out of his mind. BAR Lagos SW is a deciding factor

gohome:
I still dont understand how my text relates to trowing away my culture

you named speaking english right- throwing away culture

you gave america using english but as an example didnt mention the thousand of naive american who culture was thrown away.

the fact of the matter is nigeria was better when the hausaman spoke igbo yoruba, the igboman spoke yoruba hausa and the yorubaman spoke igbo and hausa when in each region.

tribalism is only there BECAUSE OF ENGLISH.