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Now read the above again and again!!!

I hope the homicide dept of the NPF carried out an autopsy on the corpse to determine the exact cause of death.

If it's as a result of the drugs they consumed, where & how did they buy it, have they arrested the manufacturer of the drug for questioning, etc.

It's easy for Nigerians to crucify these ones than probe the cause of death until other people will make the same mistake and die the same way.

To be honest, being a Nigerian Is really dangerous and risky.

RIP to them both

thinkmoney:
Thank you my dear for your exhaustive response.
To answer the three questions in your first para; it's a terrible sin to equate Jesus with God. It's the sin of blasphemy and its similar to what we have in our law court today as treason. Ancient Israelite do not take kindly to that type of offence. It's what Absalom tried to do against David his father. It's what Satan too tried to do against God. It's what the Jewish leader in Jesus time accused Jesus of doing, and they showed their aversion for it by ripping their garments in public.
What does Yahweh himself have to say; he said 'I am Yahweh, thou shalt not have any other God beside me', he said in another place that 'he is a jealous God,' and in another place he said 'he will not share is glory with anyone.
What was Jesus attitude to equating himself to God? Jesus was said to have submitted himself to God even to the point of death. At another place, it was said he didn't consider usurping the authority of God but became like a man.
People believing in a Trinity doctrine - a word or idea that wasn't mentioned in the bible- can't expect to be accepted by God and they can't also expect God to look favourably on their prayers. Remember where it's said in the bible 'that they pray but don't get answer because they pray amiss. '
Many believing this doctrine are like Paul before he became a Christian. He so much had knowledge and zeal for God. He thought the Pharisee religion was acceptable to God. Unknown to him, it is an adulterated religion that God had rejected. The bible said of those kind of people as 'having zeal for God but not according to an accurate knowledge. '
You still referred to when Jesus said that him and his father are one. But the context around that statement never support the supposition that Jesus was an inseparable entity from God, it only talks about unity. Remember he also in that same statement ask that God make his disciples and every believer that kind of 'one's. Does it mean he is saying they should mysteriously become an inseparable entity? Let's discard long held sentimental misconception so room can be created for truth.
Now, in all of mankind ages and different dispensations, it has always been made clear that God is different from his son Jesus. At Genesis in the very beginning, God talked to another person that they should make man in their image. David talked about God and his son. David also talked about his lord sitting at the right handside of Yahweh. Proverb 8, spoke allegorically of Jesus and it said Jesus was created by God in the beginning and was at the beginning a 'master worker beside God.' Jesus when here on earth prayed to God and made it clear that he was from God and he will return to God. Shortly after Christ departure, Steven at the point of death saw a vision of Jesus sitted at the righthanside of God in heaven (different entity), the apostles too on different occasions attested to this fact. The book of Corinthians made us know that Jesus was the first of all creation, this is consistent with the pervasive truth in the bible that Jesus was created by God. At revelation, we saw him figuratively presenting the value of his ransom sacrifice to God at his throne as a slain lamp.
I have gone from Genesis to Revelation. Jesus has always be shown to be different from God, in his preearth, earthly and postearth(heaven) existence. When he was leaving the earth, he told his followers that he was 'going to his father, their father and his God their God.'
Jesus is said to be God's word because he had God's message for the world. He was to God like Aaron was to Moses, a spokesman. It's true that God from time immemorial at different places do send him as a representative. But anybody sent his to all intent and purpose of different entity and different authority to the sender.
Let's be careful of what the Bible has termed 'artfully crafted doctrine'. 'Doctrine of men.' 'Doctrine of Demons '.
The purpose of this very doctrine is to muddle up the identity of God and not make people understand God. If you can't understand somebody, you can't really have a close relationship with that person.

I understand your point

But do you think it is wrong to respect the word of someone in authority?
Also, does honoring the person's word show any sign of disrespect to the person?

I'm of the opinion that God Almighty isn't bothered that Trinitarians have such concept because if it were so, he wouldn't have given Jesus power over everything in Heaven & on earth, also, He wouldn't have made Jesus so great that you need the name of Jesus to even request anything from Him (GOD).

The Bible even says at the mention of the name of Jesus, every knee shall bow, both in Heaven & on Earth. God would have maintained His superiority by retaining "His own name"

God Almighty isn't in a power tussle with Jesus or Holy Spirit neither are Trinitarians elevating Jesus above God (Yahweh) because eventually, they direct all their prayers to God (Yahweh) and only go through the name of Jesus as directed in the Bible.

I think saying the concept of trinity is wrong is more like the overzealous actions of the Pharisees & Saducees that wanted to kill Jesus simply because they felt He was trying to equate Himself to God. Do you honestly think they would have been able to comprehend if Jesus had told them "He is God". They wouldn't have understood because you need the Holy Spirit to understand the deeper concept of the things of God and His operations. The Holy Spirit is the only only that can make us to truly know God and understand His intent for our lives. Remember the disciples didn't even know who Jesus really was while He was with them on earth until He ascended and the Holy Spirit came upon them. Only then did the true revelation of Jesus hit them.

In the beginning, when the spirit of God moved on the face of the deep, who do you think moved, Yahweh? No, it was the Holy Spirit! The Word(Jesus) made everything and without Him was noting made but who spoke the Word? Yahweh! Now you see why Jesus didn't bow when when Satan tempted Him by saying he'll give him all the kingdoms of the earth. How do you expect the creator of all things to bow to get what He created with His own hands!

When God said "let us make man in our own image, who do you think he was having a discussion with? Yahweh was in a discussion with His entirety! How do I know this, Man is the only creation of God that is a Spirit, has a Soul and lives in a body. Humans were never created to be Spirits only, that's why we'll all ascend to Heaven the same way Jesus ascended, in bodily (spirit, soul & body) form but this time, the saints will rise in an incorruptible body like Jesus and we'll all be like that forever.

I think what we should be bothered about is the fact the name of God (Yahweh) is being gradually removed from the Bible and it is a serious cause for concern because most people don't even know the name of God.

thinkmoney:
Thank you my friend for your mindset.
You have raised three points here and interestingly, you have unwittingly dealt with one of them.
-the first. We can understand what Jesus meant when he said, 'I and the father are one,' in John 10:30, by looking at another place in that same book of John where he said something very similar. It was in his prayer to God when his death was close( note, Jesus consistently and reverentially beseech God in prayer) in John 17:11-27 thereabout.Now let's go to the context of that prayer. He ask God to make his disciples one just as he and God are one. Is that not telling you that he was praying that they be united just as he his united with God? If you continue reading, you will come to another place where he ask that he doesn't only pray that the desciples should be one but that also all those listening to them and having faith in their words (us included) be one, just as him and God are one. Was he here suggesting they become one entity-the disciples and all believers-like trinitarian doctrine says Jesus and God is? Of course not. Now lets go back to that very John 10 where the word was spoken; if you continue reading till I think verse 22, you will come across a part that says "... even though you do not believe me, believe the works, so that you may come to know and may continue knowing that the Father is in union with me and I am in union with the Father.” I believe this point is clear now.
-the second point. About the word (Jesus) being God. If you read Bible translations that really tries to interpret the bible the way it is, you will see that they write that portion in ways like this; 'and the word was with the God and the word was a god,' 'and the word was with God and the word was divine', or 'and the word was with God and the word was godlike', this translation are more consistent with the original Greek sentence (please make your research). The point here is that, the bible has made us understand there are many Gods. The meaning of God-elohim in Hebrew, Alaha in Armariac and Theos in Greece-is powerful ones or divine ones, it denotes people that have influence spiritually, hence, Pharisees and Jewish religious leaders were called gods in the bible, demons and Satan were also called gods, angels were called gods and Jesus was called god. Isaiah in his prophecy refer to Jesus as 'the mighty god,' but there is one God 'ALMIGHTY,' which is Yahweh.
With this knowledge, now read again the bible passage of John 1:1. You will see that Jesus was just being describe as having a divine substance like God. This should not confuse us as he is the son of God.
-now to the third, which I said you have unwittingly dealt with. Yes, everything was created by Jesus, but like you noted when you said 'everything was created THROUGH him', God, use him to create everything. This is attested to in proverbs 8. There we see Jesus, who was poetically represented as Wisdom, (in a New Testament passage, Jesus is rightly describe as 'the power and wisdom of God' 1 Corinthians 1:24), said that he was by God in the beginning a 'master worker.' God created him and gave him the power to create all other things. He was God's chief construction officer. This fact is alluded to in many books of the Bible. Here is one example, in 1 Corinthians 15:27,28. 27For God “subjected all things under his feet.” But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’ it is evident that this does not include the One who subjected all things to him. 28 But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone."
*Do you know that Jesus himself said things like 'the Father is greater than me' and that 'it's the Father that sent him?' there is the one sent and the sender. At a place he even said he doesn't know the exact time of the conclusion of this system of things, but that only God knows. That means there are knowledge that is the exclusive of God the Father! Can this be, if they are same, equal beings like the trinitarians would have us believe?
He even, rebuked the devil at his temptation when devil ask him to worship him(can you imagine devil asking Yahweh to worship him?!), Jesus told him that he is not allowed to worship anybody but God! GBAAM!!!.
my dear, God is loving. Understanding his word doesn't take any esoteric skills or possession of some spirit, it just takes a willing, humble and courageous mind. A mind that is courageous enough to ask questions and dispel age long held myths and misconceptions when it finds answers. A mind that is courageous enough to go against the mainstream. God blesses such a mind, because he sees all of us and he is all powerful, almighty.

I like your analogy and well detailed explanation

But does it then make it a sin to equate Jesus with God? Will God hold answers to our prayers if we do? Will it stop "trintarians" from going to heaven? (these are honest & sincere questions)

My own understanding of the trinity can be explained thus:

We have God almighty operating in 3 different dimensions
God Head - YAHWEY
God in flesh (Son) - Jesus
God in Spirit - (Holy Spirit)

These 3 personalities operate as one indivisible entity even though they manifest in certain ways to achieve the same goal.

God Head can't relate physically to man because he operates as a Spirit. Even Moses couldn't see HIS face because the glory would have killed him. Whenever we see a physical representation of GOD in the Bible it is always Jesus. Jesus is the WORD of GOD and the same way your voice represents you is the same way Jesus is to God. The same way your voice recording can be used to either incriminate or justify you even without you being physically present is the same way Jesus (the Word) is to the God Head. The WORD (Jesus) became flesh is saying God Head made his Word tangible, something humans can feel & touch, so it won't always be a booming voice or thunder or fire. All these is to redeem man back to Himself and maintain a father to son relationship with man, he wanted man to know it is possible.

When Jesus said He & the Father are one should explain it all. The same way you can't deny your voice on tape is the same way God can't be separated from Jesus. Jesus was simply God in flesh.

God in Spirit - (Holy Spirit) is God giving man direct access to Him without any barrier. It's like a Sim card in a phone, it gives us the ability to establish a communion with God whereby we can hear him in our Spirit. The Holy Spirit is like the network provider, if the reception is bad, it will be difficult or impossible to have any form of communication with each other. God has released His spirit upon everyone that is willing to accept His Word (Jesus) which is Him (God Almighty)

The dispensation of God's manifestation :

In the Old Testament, we saw more of the manifestation of God Head (YAHWEY)

In the New Testament, we saw God Head (YAHWEY) manifest in flesh (JESUS)

Now we are in the dispensation of the God Head (YAHWEY) manifest in the Spirit (HOLY SPIRIT) Remember God promised to pour His Spirit on man in the end of days.

Don't forget God said He honors His Word more than His name.

With this, I don't think giving God's Word the same preference as God Himself is wrong.

thinkmoney:
I don't know pst Biodun. But there are too many 'cloud of witnesses,' accusing him of gross immorality. Note, those my quoted words are from the bible. We leave him to God.
But my friend, I tell you you can identify a true man of God. You can achieve this not by Comparing pastors with pastor, necessarily analysing them by their attire or evaluating them by their deeds but you can recognise them by the qualities(fruits) the bible said they will show. Example of this qualities are:
-Do they really show God's personality and attributes (Now, I may start offending you. But I want to believe you are not the only one seeing this my responses. And I rather make God happy) Keeping inline with this point, if you see any pastor or congregation preach Trinity or as much equate Jesus with God, cancel them. God is the first and most important revelation in the bible. If you get that wrong, then your premise that you build all other believes on is already wrong.
-i have disregarded pastor like Oyankhilome for his take on abortion.
- God's movement or church must be universal in that, somehow, you will see it having people of different races in it.
- the pastors that is acceptable to God won't like glory from men, or accord to themselves lofty titles. Jesus said no spiritual leader should be called father. He even cautioned the person that called him 'good' and said its only God that is good. (note, that here like in many places, he differentiated himself from God, contrary to what trinitarians would have us believe.
-their words will be consistent with their lifestyles. You won't see them preach chastity and go on having children out of wedlock or divorcing about. When they do this terribly things, you might remain a Christian, but should cease leading the flock of God. The bible said he that desire an office of bishopric must be a husband of one wife and must be one that has a model family (note, that the word bishop isn't to be carried as a title. No apostles where called bishop. The word actually means 'minister', one that precedes over and help manage the congregation of God.
-You must see an acceptable congregation of God have active love amongst themselves.

Nah brother, I can't be offended because we are simply having a discussion, not arguing.

You mentioned something that struck me though, are you saying the part of the Bible where Jesus said "He and the Father are One and the part where he said Whoever has seen Him has seen the Father " is a lie?

Recall the Bible also said "in the beginning was the Word (Jesus) and the Word was with God and the Word was God. The Word (Jesus) became Flesh and he dwell amongst men... Are you also saying it's not true.

What about the fact that Jesus is the creator of all things as stated in the Bible "God created everything through him, and nothing was created except through him" what's your take on this too?

As regards titles, I frown against it with the whole of my being.

thinkmoney:
My brother, I can't over emphasize the need to go back and reanalyse every thing with the Bible, to the extend you start sounding to even mainstream Christians as mad. That's how the first century Christians sounded. They challenge deeply sitted ideas and believes.
Now study John 17:3, where it says 'this is life, there taking in knowledge of you God and of Jesus you sent.' I told you I have studied TB Joshua (we have exchanged words. He has touched me). Now you have to think, has TB joshua really introduced Gods personality and Jesus message to you? If you think he has, briefly introduce God as you would introduce your father if I ask you to?
Good news isn't good news. Like mainstream Christians today, the Pharisees and sadducees religion that Judaism came from was the popular religion in Christ time, but Jesus rejected it entirely.
About Pastor Adeboye and others, I will vehemently encourage you to 'obey God rather than men', and 'let all men be found a lier and God true'. If they have failed the Bibles criteria, discard them. Simple.
Look how many of our so-called men of God world over, was shamed as to predicting coronavirus, despite their end of the year packaged prophecies. They all failed to see the most important event of the year. This is not God's failure, this is mens failure, the shame is to them. God blinded all of them as he promised in the bible.
See this event and realise its God's work. Be courageous and respond appropriately. Few message and warning of God can be clearer than the one coronavirus revealed!!!

I'm glad you mentioned you know TB well, maybe you were once his member, I don't know, but it shows you once had a relationship with him which I've never.

Just to be clear, I can never vouch for any "man of God" I only know Jesus and Him alone.

I took this route to be sure of the angle that you are attacking him from & like I said earlier, I am a logical thinker.

Now that we can establish that we can't tell who a true man of God is by simply watching them live, preach, prophesy & perform miracles, do you think it is fair criticism for the body of Christ to elevate (real) some pastors and relegate (fake) some simply because of their approach & understanding of their ministry?
For example, calling Pst Biodun of COZA fake simply because of his flamboyant lifestyle? (just for the sake of this discussion)

Bahddo:
poor ignorant soul. You think every Jew kept a copy of the Mosaic law in their homes the way we have copies of the Bible today?

Many only got to read/listen from the Torah (first 5 books of the old testament) in the Synagogue on the sabbath day. Would a leper be allowed anywhere near such a gathering?

Go look up the term 'Amhaarets' and what it means. The men educated in the law (Scribes, Pharisees etc) used that derogatory term to describe the common man in their day for not being knowledgeable about the law.

It's not out of place for Jesus to tell these neglected people he had just healed what to do next so they can fit back into society. Jesus was wise, try to be like him.

#Don't leave me wise man!!!

Anyways, like I said earlier, I don't blame you. But so you know, the discussion got the point you jumped in because someone said televising miracle program is show off.

The Bible from OT to NT describes and documents how powerful God is. If he wanted His works to be coded, he wouldn't have permitted the Bible.

Jesus asking the leper to go to the priests is to show them the mighty work of God because they would definitely ask him how he got healed.

Mind you, the law was in place for over 2000years before Jesus came and you can't tell me a leper won't know what he's supposed to do to be reintegrated back to the society.

thinkmoney:
I have gotten three points from this, which I like to point out for you to ponder on.
1. The question of if there is no man of God alive Now, I will leave it for you to search. But I will help u. Have you heard the word of Solomon that said out of a thousand men, I scarcely see a righteous man? These men of God you know, put them together if they are up to a thousand. People worshipping God my brother are very few. And know that the true prophets of God in the bible have all their prophecies fulfilled (only Jonah, and it was because those people repented. God then, clarified everything. The prophecy to start with was conditional. The ninevites got smart and chose to repent. Eventually they backslided and the destruction came upon them.
NOOOOO prophecy of/from God can go without being fulfilled. So if you see prophets failing this criteria, no matter there credential, do away with sentiments and discard them. Thinking God can fail sometimes is degrading him to the level of humans. You might be insinuating he isn't all powerful enough to make every prophecies come through.
2. All religions preach a version of peace, 'righteousness '(which means right standing), and love. Does that make them all acceptable to God? Some pastor even think it's a message of love to abort a child so to spare the child and/or mother to of some challenges. But does that really make that 'love' God's kind of love?
3. About his humility. Let me show you what the Bible say again. It says the minister of darkness keep appearing like (note; not almost like oh, but like) the minister of light. The bible also mentioned wolves in sheep's clothing. Iike counterfeit money, it will take grace, expertise and real effort to recognize these fake christianities.
Please I just want you to start thinking and finding answers. There are answers.

Good!

Going by this, I feel it is safe to say no pastor can pass the humility test because no human can see the heart of man.

Then about his messages, take out time to listen to some of his sermons before you conclude. Listen bro, "Goodnews is Goodnews, even to bad people"
One question you should ask yourself is, does his message of love, faith, Holyness & peace contradict the Bible's standard?

Back to prophecy and in as much as I don't want to mention names, but going by your explanation, is it safe to say the likes of Pastor Adeboye & Bishop Oyedepo are fake men of God?

stanat:
the guy is actually telling you the truth,in the book of Leviticus,Moses commanded that a leper can only the declared clean(healed) by the priest before he is allowed back into the community. Most Christians don't read their bible,they only rely on what their pastors tell them and if it doesn't have to do with prosperity,they ain't interested. Its a big shame.

So you think the leper is ignorant of the law?

Anyways, because you jumped into this without knowing the root, I'll spare you but it's a shame still that you didn't look before leaping.

thinkmoney:
I got to know when I started using the Bible as a metre to judge him
Most importantly, the bible has categorically stated that if any prophet prophecies and it didn't come through, we should know that they aren't sent from God.
Two, through is teachings. His teaching like many others so-called men of God is cunningly different from the message of the Bible.
This. Am I supposed then by his power? No. I actually expect such men in this age of our. The bible in generally said false prophets will come. It also made us known in revelation, that it is the Devil that empower this men to perform miracles and sign through the figurative two unclean toads.
There purpose is to present a counterfeit religion that leads away from God.
What's their end then? Jesus said also in the bible, that this sort of men will cry out at the judgement and say 'lord lord, in your names we perform miracles and cast out demons'but Jesus will reply them and say 'get away from me into damnation for I know you not. '

Thanks for taking out time to type this.

Talking about prophecies not coming to pass, I don't think there is any man of God alive that has gotten all his prophecies right, 100% of the time. Does that mean there is no true man of God on earth?

Then about his sermons, all I've heard him preach about is: Righteousness, peace & love. Have you ever heard him speak evil of all the people that speak ill of him, including "so called men of God"
To the best of my knowledge, he is the most humble pastor of his caliber that I've seen "from afar"
Don't forget the Bible says "by their fruits, we Shall know them"

About miracles, I believe in miracles but i'm not a fan of miracles and I don't use it to judge a pastor's stand in Christ because even the devil can create miracle illusions.

Based on these stated above, I'm yet to see what makes him a fake man of God.

I don't kuku believe any story I read online.

Let me continue what I was doing before jere

princeade86:
Many people are waiting for him to say the video is fake, but they left disappointed

Lmao! God no go shame us bro!!!

Bahddo:
it's the God-given Mosaic law, man. Lepers in Bible times aren't allowed to live among others and are usually stigmatized. They also had to call out while on the road so others don't come close to them.

Before a leper is accepted back into society, they have to be pronounced clean by the priest. That's why Jesus always asked healed lepers to go to the priest.

This isn't something anyone should even be arguing. You don't read your Bible.

So you think the leper was ignorant of the law and he didn't know he had to go to the priests.
See, if Jesus didn't want the people to know, he would have told the leper to never mention His name. I'm done making this clear, if you don't get it, then forget it!

Don't just read the Bible, read with understanding.

PS: there is noting wrong with boasting in Christ!

sigiyaya:
What stupid faith, Listen that young man just got used just like Amukachi, Kanu Nwanwko, Jim Iyke and many others.

Can you explain the word "used" cos I don't seem to understand.

To the best of my knowledge, the people you mentioned are sane, influential & above 18. More so, they walked into the church without coercion or force.

I can't also remember where these ones you mentioned called him fake!

BLUELemon:
I need a miracle for money to solve hunger in my life. I am hoping for a miracle
Sterling bank OO72053910 Joshua

Miracles happen to those who believe and you can't hope for what you don't believe in.

thinkmoney:
See no doubt he has powers. I have studied him e'en from close. He has supernatural power. But, from my study of him and the Bible, I have also come to know 99.99% that the source of his power is not God. He sadly might not know this himself

I haven't said he is genuine or not, neither have I said his power is of God or not.
I also believe no one has the right to say for sure that his powers aren't from God without providing substantial proof.

I grew up hearing lots of BS about TB and I must confess I believed the gist back then and I'm sure 90% of people who call him fake today also grew up with the story.

I'm grown now and I've decided to let go of the hearsay and I reason logically, with an open mind.

PS: please tell me how you got to know he is fake as it may help my reasoning & understanding.

Amazingly, Nigerians are the ones trolling him and saying all sorts simply because the pastor is TB Joshua and not "Benny Hinn or some white skinned Pastor"

Low self esteem and Slavery mentality will not kill Nigerians!

He is free to practice his faith and owes no one any form of explanation!

Bahddo:
it's part of the mosaic law that lepers have to be examined by the priest before being declared clean. They aren't considered clean until the priest declares them clean. Leviticus 13: 1, 2, 17.

That's why Jesus would not tell a healed leper to tell nobody. It was not an advert, but the last step in becoming clean for lepers under the Mosaic law.

How come some of you never truly read the Bible?

So you think the leprosy will return to the man if he didn't show himself to the priests? Someone Jesus Christ healed! You think God needs the approval or declaration of men to make a miracle permanent?

See, If you still can't decode why Jesus asked to leper to go to the priest, I'm afraid you need to read your books more, not just the Bible.

BLUELemon:
cc scatterscatter let this message sink into you very well... It's the words of wisdom

His words were simply a fallacy of hasty generalization! You'll observe I didn't reply him. I chose to reply you cos I observed you need help as you need to understand "miracles exist" and I hope you won't be in a desperate need for one before you realize.

GeorgeTheCoder:
Your logic is still faulty.
He is a conman in many dimensions. Fake pastor is only one of them.
Also, if by now and after all his years of practice you don't see this, I can't help you.

Your argument is pointless as your claim is baseless and a mare hearsay. Come back when you have a proof.

PS: I'm a logical thinker and not a religious folk.

Omoslim26:
dont mind dat mumu people will just come online and be typing shenanigans upandan

if God fit use benny hinn why not TB Joshua too

You are right. Nigerians have never called out any "fake foreign (white) pastor", but almost all of ours are "fake". May God deliver us from mental slavery

GeorgeTheCoder:
There is a logical fallacy to your question. I am not interested in naming any man of God. I am pointing out a conman.

It is only ideal to show original to prove another as counterfeit.

If you notice, I didn't say TB is a true man of God or not. You said TB is a conman, so kindly substantiate with proof by naming one true man of God.

kikero:
Just the priests, not the members of the congregation and in private so to speak

You still don't get it.

Another question, did Jesus heal people in public, before multitude of people or he calls people into special rooms, in secret to heal them?

GeorgeTheCoder:
After all the warnings and expose on this charlatan, people still go to him for miracles.

Can you name one true man of God? And also give reasons why he/she is one.

kikero:
Actually the leper was to show himself to the priests, not the congregation of the synagogue at the time (see Leviticus 13).

The priests were in the synagogue right? And were the priests not humans?
Jesus simply would have told the leper to go home and tell nobody, not even his family members!

God permits miracles to deliver the oppressed and to also show his mightiness to both believers & unbelievers.

YorubaKinging:
The most respected FALSE PROPHET of this generation

Even Jesus always tells those who he healed NOT to tell it to anybody


But this man always broadcast himself to the world
Even when he went to the mountains, he did a live broadcast

Your time is near

If Jesus had wanted his miracles to remain coded, he wouldn't have told the leper (abi blind man) to go and show himself to the synagogue,

For those calling TB Joshua fake, please tell me how much he paid Angel Gomez to act this

Take it or leave it, "there is natural and there is supernatural"

Bobotic:
He is the main criminal

Did you even read the post or you've just decided to be arrogantly ignorant.

heendrix:
we all know his fault was those he took as aids, ministers n SA's coupled with the fact that he was a Gentle, less active typa president but we can't ignore the fact that he was intelligent as a person

To be sincere, Jonathan may be a good man with a good heart but he was a very weak leader. He may be brilliant considering the fact that he has Phd but intelligent, I doubt!

It takes firmness & intelligence to lead effectively.

heendrix:
Well vibrant, intelligent President ends with Obasanjo and Jonathan

imagine presenting someone like Atiku, Hell rufai or Tinubu to take over from Buhari 2023. Teary disaster inbound

Jonathan is in the same whatsapp group with ones you mentioned in the last paragraph bar Tinubu.

@OP, so you know the sound of your brother's wife's Moan.

Double twale for you!!!