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He we go again with excuses. Mmewh

azimibraun:
What is giving these PDParians and Jonathanians hope of a possible railroading of PMB is what still amazes me. Hon Leo Ogoh earlier this morning on Channelstv said he wished GEJ had done the needful when he had the time, PMB would have been coasting and those were his words. He went further to say it is not a party problem and that all hands must be n deck to fix it. He called fr deregulation of the petroleum industry and spoke directly to PMB asking him to tell Nigerians to endure pain for a while and expect light at the tunnel's end. Leo Ogoh said these and that was encouraging.

ok now we should be sentimental because of buhari? We should endure pains because of buhari?...
In summary nigerians should be zombiefied because of buhari, right?

KissCODE:
Ifeanyi Ubah is now the spokes person for NNPC...
Where is Kachikwu and his master...?

Is Ajala the traveler around or has he gone out again on his begging mission...

oh! Maybe he is blaming PDP somewhere...

arresa:
1. Please tell why GEJ didn't approve the entire FG funds for the project like he did for projects in the North amd SW and why he settled for PPP.

The project is a very massive & capital intensive project, the FG couldn't take on it alone hence settled down on ppp.

2. PPP means instead of the FG paying for the bridge, the end users in the SE are going to pay for the bridge for 25 years out o their own pocket.

Yes, it means that a certain concession will be granted to the private investor to recover the input. It will apply to all citizens ply the road. note: it's not only SE that use the bridge, it service all nigerian mostly the SE, SS & some part of middle belt.

3.

At N117 billion, the cost was grossly inflated to allow JB to rake in serious profits for 25 years at the expense of the end users in the SE.

For a grand project like that? No no it is not, you can read more about similar bridges and their cost.

4. Lekki Ikpyi bridge is the best and the most sophisticated bridge in Nigeria and it cost only N29 billion.

lekki bridge is on where near that bridge. In lenght, width, facillities etc there is no comparism

5. Bottom line, GEJ going the PDP route is not doing you any favor, he basically sold you off to JB for 25 years of toll payments. It means you are going to pay out of your pocket for that bridge.

nigerian is not the only place such procedure is adopted. Concession is never a bad thing as you paint it.

If GEJ rewarding his pillar of support aka the SE with 25 years toll payment on what they should enjoy free without paying out of their own pocket just like the other regions with fully FG funded projects, them enjoy the scam and erect a statue fo GEJ to worship forever...



Why you people let hate, tribalism and ignorance cloud your judgement is still a misery..

sorry i did not mention tribe i see no reason shouting tribalism up and down.

OAFMods:
This post is that of a gullible igbotic Ipobl Igbo that do not realise he as been scammwd by the drunk from Otueke after the drunk assurd he will ensure the bridge is completed be for he leaves office.

OP what is the % of the completed work on the bridge ?

Did I hear you say leas than 10% ?!

Igbotic clown ...hilarious bunch of retards.

Am sorry sir i did not say it is 10% completed. Gej didn't not scam anyone including you, you should tell who so ever that is telling you that to stop it. It is doing more harm than go. I am proudly an Igbo not Ipob thank you.

lalasticlala, Mynd44 pls can this make it to front page? I will love sir

4 Did his administration complete it? No.
5. Why? because he couldn't win his second term bid. He lost to the sitting president M. Buhari.
6. Did buhari Abandon the project? No he didn't.
7. Why is there out cry? it is Because of the very slow pace of work on the site.
8. What brought about the slow pace of work? Economic down turn. The project cost was done when naira(nigerian local currency) was #154/dollar and there was a sharp depreciation on naira. Since the project is a ppp and will mostly be excuted on naira there is need for renegotiation on the cost and concession of the project.
9 Does that mean the project will be stopped? that depends on the renewed agreement between the FG and the private investors.
10 what should we do ? wait, observe and contribute positively towards the project.

This thread is to put records straight about the second niger bridge. I will use question and answer method to do this. I will be asking and and answering 10 question on it. Other peoples view/opinion is highly accepted.
1 Has real work started on second niger bridge? the answer is yes.
2. When did they start the project? The project preliminary studies was started in the early quarter of 2013. And the on site construction started on may 2015
3. Who was the president that commenced it? former president; Goodluck Ebele Jonathan commenced the project. His administration committed #18.3 billion out of the #30 billion to be invested by the FG. 10 billion was disbursed.

This is not a matter of APC or PDP neither is a matter of buhari or jonathan,but the progress of our nation. Funding a bridge like 2NB involves huge capital investment. Sourcing and funding such investment can be done by
i. The state(country) alone if they have the capital
ii. Through ppp(private public partnership) scheme
iii. And Through loan.
Gej lead administration adopted the second which is ppp, it takes a long time and some bureaucratic bottleneck to accomplish that. In ppp the govt and private sector has some quota they have to invest and in this case FG is committed to contribute 28% and private investors 72% under a 25 years concession. A huge amount of 10billion was committee by GEJ administration, meaning that GEJ was the only one that started the actual work on the bridge hence history of the bridge cannot be written without him.

This is the most disgraceful thing among us nigerians. How do we forget so quickly that govt is continuous? This is not a matter of APC or PDP neither is a matter of buhari or jonathan,but the progress of our nation. Funding a bridge like 2NB involves huge capital investment. Sourcing and funding such investment can be done by
i. The state(country) alone if they have the capital
ii. Through ppp(private public partnership) scheme
iii. And Through loan.
Gej lead administration adopted the second which is ppp, it takes a long time and some bureaucratic bottleneck to accomplish that. In ppp the govt and private sector has some quota they have to invest and in this case FG is committed to contribute 28% and private investors 72% under a 25 years concession. A huge amount of 10billion was committee by GEJ administration, meaning that GEJ was the only one that started the actual work on the bridge hence history of the bridge cannot be written without him.

Babacele:
you spew nonsense because of your ignorance and hatred. Apart from security reasons, Nigeria has radioactive minerals which can power atomic processes eg power stations and bombs. President Buhari isnt clueless n understands the economic and security implications of participating in a very important global discussion like the alternative energy from Nuclear sources ,viz-a-viz global terrorism issues. Hate- filled hearts and a pretentious ignorance is a more dangerous bomb mix than a Nuke.

Hate?! Who do i hate? my nation or my president? Who?
See my friend nigeria is not an active nuclear member hence i see no reason why our president should prioritize this summit especially now. He should have possibly sent delegate, unless you want to tell me we are about to go nuke politics.

Dakad:
Thanks my brother from another mother. Honestly, the south East needs to build more bridges. Be tactical while planing their politics. And never put ALL their EGGS in one basket. There should always be plan B. I see South Eastern produces president in 2023 because most Nigerians believe it's long overdue. However, This depends on how they play their politics come 2019.

You are welcome my brother, i may not understand what you mean by putting all eggs in one basket but i believe we should be tactical while building/amending bridges with others. As for plan B i think we should look for more than that.

Babacele:
persons in positions determine 'fairness' to their people unless u can tell me Igbo sons n daughters in power, n most especially d GEJ's 6 years , are Hausa Fulani or Ofenmanus who have shortchanged 'our people'. let us be academic n use empirical evidences rather than evasive approach. Eg when Yoruba n Hausa states are busy employing Igbo s into their civil service , a Theodore Orji was sacking non-Abian igbos. Theo must be a 'yolobaman'.

what do you mean by 'fairness' is determine by people in power to their people? Are you saying a person from a particular group/place in Nigeria should determine development of his group alone?
Well, i see no reason bringing GEJ or T. A. Orji into this. Gej 6 years saw a much tolerance and peace among the citizens in nigeria unlike what is/was obtainable from other. Also i see no reason turning T. A. Orji's obnoxious policy which affects all nigerians into igbo nonsense. He retrenched non-Abians, which include all other nigerians not only igbos. His blonder was resisted by all including Abians.( mind you he rescind the policy and entrenched all retrenched worker into Abia state civil service so you have no point at all )

Hmmm, this is a very ugly situation, the FG should look into it and put some laws in place.

LudaChriz:
Zombie, how many African President do u see there?


Nigeria can not even boost of solar energy yet talk more of nuclear

they said we are gaint of Africa, i think he went there to restore our gaintism. Do you know what it means to snap pictures with world leaders in a nuclear summit? Even if you are irrelevant there, you may still be a matter. You have weight(even though is a dead weight) and occupy space.

Babacele:
go to specifics :dates,places, names and numbers n let us talk. for example from 1999 till date I can count from CBN governors, IG of police , Finance Ministers, Aviation, Army chiefs,Special advisers, etc that are Igbo. maybe u should educate us.

i don't get you question very well, are you saying appointment equates to fairness?

blackpanda:
God forbid!

First of all, we cant trust an igbo man not to split and destroy this country since it is clear they dont believe in the Nigerian project in the first place.

Secondly, they are not the only group that hasnt produced president. What u a benue man thats talking?? Marginalization has nothing to do with

Then, because of an igbo man's innate greed and lust for money, we cant trust them not to sell out nigeria

Not to mention igbos arent even united. An average igbo man wants to pull down the next igbo man. So it will be next to impossible to even win within the SE region, let alone at national level!

clearly you are wrong. An igbo man never fight to poll his brother down. Igbo have this rear nature of defending his brother even in odd situation. As for the unity of igbos you are also very wrong, igbos is never divided in the south east you quoted though there maybe some set backs in the region called south south especially rivers that does not equate to disunity.

Babacele:
fairness in what ,how and by who?

Fairness in the distribution, excution and implementation of any federal project. Fairness in policy excutions, fairness in all other things that have skewed nigeria towards its failures and un-progressiveness.
some people may call for new federalism but i think it is a tall order in nigeria today, hence there are ways some of the flaws in the state can be solved.

The igbo nation as we know it has never been the problem of the nation nigeria, but has been in the fore front of some fairness and orderlines

Childish but highly dangerous thread.

Dakad:
I believe PDP that they supported almost 98% in 2015 will have a rethink about their quest for Northern presidential candidate in 2019 and give them the sloth. Honestly I believe in equality and support the idea that South East produces President by 2019. However, if the region is serious about producing president of Nigeria, they need to change their political game plan.

what sort of game plan are you talking about? You view will be highly appreciated.

senior123:
Good now you are understanding it. This is the fundamental rule. Make Wealth and keep wealth home, within your extended family. We are beginning to notice this in Benue. If you are waiting for Nigerian Govt you are wasting your time, they do not care about the land, just the mafia who has found another gold mine. In benue, we started farming, and selling. And now we have some well to do people helping. Even David Mark and the Governor are absolutely useless. They want every one to play boy toy to them. Forget them.

I understand your concern about some affairs related to the igbos in the country.Igbos maynot be waiting for the fed govt to develop some certain sectors of its economy but they call for fairness of all stakeholders in the country which is lacking. Unlike what you said earlier, we are not oppressed but we are seen as enemy. Every move in nigeria equates to Nigeria vs igbos. It creates some phobia within the citizens and the nation.

senior123:
I know the igbo population and I know their strenght. I schooled in Anabra state for 5 years. They mostly make me laugh and very industrous. I believe the people are very under ratted. You need to begin to build your city. I think that is what is important now. It is obvious now that our govt is useless and have absolutely no use. Even in Benue we got tired of screaming and decided to build slowly with the small rich people we have.

Igbo have staked alot for one nigeria with little returns for it. We have learnt in a hard way that there is no place like home, then we have realized that even with so much wealth if you have nothing at home we are nothing but a floating gaint. A new philosophy was born which is "Invest home". Thanks to obi of onitsha we pioneered this call. Our cities are been built, our local economy are been strenghtened and our unity, importance and relivance renewed. Like i often tell my brothers, we must maintain our unity and shelve this idea of presidency at moment, we should play a strong regional politics in the two regions we have stronghold... We also have to form a new reliable friend(middle belt).
For the record "Only a fool will under rate the Igbos, and he who does that is at his own peril..."

Wisdomkosi:
wow that's good

thanks, are you from afikpo? If yes how do you see davi umahi leadership?

Wisdomkosi:
you are from afikpo?

no, but it is my maternal home. I can speak both my maternal and paternal dialect fluently.

See o. The moment i read north west was consistent, i knew it will be a bias report.

senior123:
I am not Igbo. I am from Benue State. I think it is high time we had a qualified Igbo president in this country. I think they have truly been oppressed. I mean we have tried it all, Nothing has worked. Not any of all these current Igbo governors but a qualified Igbo intellect. NOT PDP. Of Course. Please suggestions....

Don't worry one day we will, but i don't think it is anytime soon. And trust me the day it happens is the day you will see how patriotic the igbo are.

Wisdomkosi:
Ndi ebonyi me ekelenu shinu shinu. Tokwehu ala izzi. Ndi ebonyi bu nanu

(Afikpo)Ndi Ebọnyị unu jọkwa, ehugbo unu ka. Ndi ebọnyị bụ nanị.
(Uturu)Nde ebọnyị a li m ekele unu, unu la ya agba oo. Nde ohe anyị ndo ewo nu. Nde ebonyị bụ mnaa.
(Izugbe)Ndi ebọnyị a na m ekele unu, igbo bu igbo mma mma nụ. Ndi ebọnyị bụ otu.

chefremy:
no water,no fuel,no refinary,no electricity,no money,no food.when is nigeria going to change?.am sorry to say this but nigeria is a clueless country with clueless leaders.

don't worry the president is in usa improvising

This is a stinking and unreliable old list.

Abagworo:
Fast foward to March 2016 and you will appreciate the gains of change. It is now virtually a smooth ride from Port Harcourt to Owerri with a mere 200 metres of little shake at Imo/Rivers boundary. Even the interior village Roads of Umuapu are not left out as almost all the connecting roads which were hitherto earth roads have now been tarred and marked. Both the State and FG have given those who ply that route a cause to smile after 4 years of horror.

you are terrible liar, the federal part has been under construction way before your change.

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Aaam:
i feel surprise when some useless idiots would be calling our presidents some rubbish names, dont av parents? did the last government who u claim bought d plances used them? If not for buhari will u know that we ever had air force nt to talk of their planes? Y cant you idiots jst accept the fact that our president wants a good future for this country and he his doing is best.. the foolish past president who you claim to be literate was jst a big fool, i repeat a v.big fool... And any of u dat insults buhari will be foolish forever... Rubbish...
Any foolish idiot dat quote me and say rubbish will continue to be a fool.. vexed... welldone mr president....* pmb is working*

which ones were they using before buhari? Oh oh Now i see!!! APC always feeds on ignorant young folks.