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OtemAtum:
kikiki, laffing in swahili

The evidence is overwhelming that JESUS IS THE CHRIST !

I tuned into the Emmanuel TV channel and I witnessed the deep unpretentious JOY flowing out of men and woman of all races from around the world as they praise the mighty Jesus Christ. Most of these amazing worshipers have arrive at the gates of the holy SCOAN Church Nigeria since 1am (01:00) this morning to ensure they get inside. Which means most worshipers have been there for more 10 hours already. Wow ! What more can I say ?

When one looks closely at the SCOAN Church worshipers, into their joy filled eyes and observe their total relaxed body countenance as they sing and dance their praises, to honor the TRUTH about the mighty Jesus Christ which they have seen repeatedly and POWERFULLY demonstrated to them. They dance with a joy, not as the world can give !

Many of these blessed worshipers are extremely credible EYE WITNESSES and grateful recipients of the mighty WORKS that only the mighty Jesus Christ can do in their lives. Truly God is alive in the proper PRAISE and WORSHIP of His Son Jesus. They now praise from the depths of their hearts for what they have experienced in what they know as "The arena of liberty."

The mind-blowing experiences in the holy SCOAN is exactly what Jesus achieved and for clarity he said, "Joh 5:36 But I have a greater witness than that of John: for the miracles/ WORKS which the Father has given me to do, the same miracles/ WORKS that I do, bear witness for me, that the Father hath sent me."

There you have it !!! From Jesus himself ! He is saying that the preaching of John, the most powerful witness for the coming of Christ is nothing in comparison to the WORKS/ MIRACLES. Joh 5:36 That why Jesus clearly emphasized that the MIRACLES that He do, bear the most effective witness for Him that God sent him.

Why would FAKE pastors insist that their motivational SPEECHES are all that is needed ?

Then Jesus continues to explain what effect the WORKS/ MIRACLES will have on those that witness it.
Joh 5:23 That all men should honor the Son, even as they honor the Father. He that does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who has sent him.

OAROLOYE, you really pretending very hard to UNDERSTAND the Gospels.

You said, "My objection is this: LORD YAHSHUA TAUGHT HIS DISCIPLES TO DEPEND SOLELY ON GOD."


Well you are wrong again. I am rejoicing that this topic wont get lots of views because it will confuse and fool even the elect.

oaroloye:
SHALOM!



I teach that we can only know God from Yahshua.

. MATTHEW 11:27.
. JOHN 14:1-9.

SCIENCEWATCH teaches that you can only know God from TUBERCULOSIS JOSHUA, and those who recognize him as a Prophet of God.



The Lord could not have been called "JESUS," because there was no letter "J" until some 400 years ago.

Anyone using that COUNTERFEIT APELLATION cannot be in touch with THE TRUTH.

DO WE LEARN FROM THE GOSPELS, OR FROM THE GOSPELS AND A CHURCH?

The way that has always worked out, is that THE GOSPEL TESTIMONY is REJECTED in favour of the TEACHINGS of THE CHURCH.

For instance, SCIENCEWATCH says that TUBERCULOSIS JOSHUA'S ALLEGED MIRACLES are PROOF that his Ministry is of God.

I say that THE LORD SAID, that MIRACLES in HIS NAME will NOT PROVE that an ALLEGED Christian is Saved.

I presented the Scriptures:

. MATTHEW 7:21-29.
. MATTHEW 24:22-26.

What else could I say?

If SCIENCEWATCH is truly representative of SYNAGOGUE CHURCH OF ALL NATIONS, either the other members are all idiots, or else Tuberculosis Joshua has started scraping the bottom of the barrel to get members.

You DON'T have to MEDITATE on The Law of Moses to be successful, or THAT is EITHER ni longer ENOUGH, or else no longer necessary, according to TUBERCULOSIS JOSHUA: what you REALLY need is a bottle of TUBERCULOSIS JOSHUA MORNING WATER!

WATER is like a CAPACITOR for SPIRITUAL ENERGIES. It can be used to Bless or Convey Blessing. That is not the issue.

My objection is this: LORD YAHSHUA TAUGHT HIS DISCIPLES TO DEPEND SOLELY ON GOD.

Not GIMMICKS.

Not some "BIG BRETHREN."

OtemAtum:
Says the scammer Joshua

Do you really believe that millions of people world-wide will agree with you ?

Especially now that Emmanuel TV is Freely available to the whole world 7 days per week - 24 hours per day where they can freely examine the TRUTH FOR THEMSELVES.

You Otumatum, are suddenly in a very precarious position with your LIES because whatever you say can be very easily be re-checked anywhere in the world via EMMANUEL TV AND YOUTUBE. Sincere unbiased persons will quickly learn how to judge and verify video evidence for its veracity.

The really genuine seekers of TRUTH take further steps and go personally to the holy SCOAN CHURCH or any one of the international crusades to to see if it is all TRUE.

You Otumatum, on the other hand cheaply repeat and copy & paste others twisted ideas of TRUTH.
What a shame for someone in your position.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH AFRICA ?

naijacutee:
Does this happen only in black churches? If you don't like the pastors activities, why don't you just leave the 'church' and leave the pastor for God to judge?

The church congregations world-wide have the right to judge if their pastor is a FAKE PASTOR or a TRUE ANOINTED PASTOR.

They have the right to examine the Gospels to find the TRUTH about the man leading their church.

Congregations will be shocked when they discover that the mighty Jesus had very strict rules on who can pastor His churches.

I will only mention one now.
A TRUE ANOINTED PASTOR is one that can deliver the mighty Jesus Christ's promises to all that come to Him.

Jesus promised, " COME TO ME ALL THAT ARE BURDENED, AND I WILL FIX IT." That is the instantaneous miraculous healing, demonic deliverance and awesome material blessing to the poor.

The most striking evidence of all this can be easily studied on the most viewed FREE spiritual channel, Emmanuel TV - 7 days a week and 24 hours a day.

WHEN YOU RID YOUR CHURCH OF A fake pastor, God will replace him with a TRUE ANOINTED PASTOR so that the promises of His Son can flow for the great benefit of the congregations.

What congregation will say NO, to what Jesus promised ? Watch Emmanuel TV and see for yourself what all the mind-blowing promises are.

afiq:
That's the problem when some new breed churches and their 'edited doctrines aka bible' allows everyone to 'preach'

Exactly ! Jesus intention as revealed in the Holy Gospels was that a TRUE CHURCH must have an ANOINTED LEADER/PASTOR/DISCIPLE. Because it is only the ANOINTED ONES that can greatly benefit their congregations as Jesus promised.

Jesus promised, "I HAVE COME TO MAKE YOUR BURDENS LIGHT."

What are your burdens ? Is it medical, is it demonic spiritual attacks, is it poverty, etc etc etc.

It is not FAKE PASTORS elaborate speeches, conferences and motivational speeches as is made clear in John 14:12. Only the WORKS bear witness of a real pastor.

Jesus says to all pastors, Disciples, ministers and evangelists that humbly want spiritual enlightenment and the power of the Holy Spirit;
Joh 14:12 Truly, Truly, I say to you, He that believes me, the miracles/ WORKS that I do will you also do; and greater (more) miracles/WORKS than these shall you do; because I must soon go unto my Father.

Your topic must get a million views. Educate the innocent suffering congregations of the world !

ruescho:
, after reading many threads in this forum and looking at all that black churches here in Germany I wonder myself:

Why are there so many fake pastors around?

Why can every bl***y fool call himself a pastor and start eating the money of his congregation?

Last time one of those guys even adressed a married woman of our congregation to come with him.

How can this be?

Aren´t there any standarts for getting a degree to be a pastor or reverend?

Yes any fool can fake their way into position of PASTOR. Congregations world-wide desperately yearns for church to be manged the way the mighty Jesus intended. Where the promises of Jesus is demonstrated daily for improved lives. Jesus also promised, "I HAVE COME TO MAKE YOUR BURDENS LIGHT." He commanded them, "GO AND HEAL, DELIVER AND BLESS." etc etc etc.

There are signs that convince me that your TOPIC will easily draw a million views.

The solution is simple. Educate the congregations of the world on what a TRUE ANOINTED PASTOR is. They will then easily identify if their pastor is FAKE or ANOINTED.

The Gospels teach us how to identify a FAKE PASTOR, but these scriptures are never explained in church for obvious reasons.

GoodMuyis:
See argument is not in me, am trying to get it off totally, and give way to healthy convo.

If you feel like discuss with me, My Area of interest are Religion, Computer (web design: WordPress, Drupal, CSS, PHP etc) Politics.

I was annoyed by your last offences, I just have maintain public and spiritual decorum.

I have forgiven you, just GO AND SIN NO MORE

Well said GoodMuyis! Your reply is another proof TO THE WHOLE WORLD, that the mighty JESUS is the CHRIST.

OtemAtum:
Let's examine some brain users and non-god worshippers we know here in Nigeria to see if truly Nigeria will be worse for it. Tai Solarin died an atheist without having any record of evil against him.Pastor Tim Omotosho is in jail here now for lack of control over the rod between his laps. Hahn, Lepasharon, Realmindz, myself and all those who don't worship any god here, we haven't heard that any of then scammed anybody, but 4evergod, the great worshipper of Yahweh who is highly recognised and admired here by the Christians like Bennyann , you, , Analice107, Petra1, GoodMuyis, Wilgrea7 etc is now on the run for his numerous scams and 419 activities.

Now pls mention one atheist or non-god worshipper in Nigeria who has ever been imprisoned. As for Christians, I can name hundreds of them.

You are drifting into unknown territory now, lets get back to the main topic or else the OP will be upset.

TB Joshua is enough proof that the mighty JESUS is the CHRIST.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH AFRICA ?

This is what this remarkably humble man had to say;

“Many heroes and great people have been chased out of Africa. There are many geniuses in the Western world who are originally from Africa.”

“What happened to me from the beginning of my ministry is enough to chase me out of this country – but I am still in your midst. Regardless of the persecution and hatred – I decided to follow the path of love. You show hatred; I show love. When I go for a revival, you will see the stadium full but I am not carried away by that. I leave where I’m celebrated to live where I’m persecuted.

oaroloye:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csGcJwiw-pU



I have never heard that there were as many as a hundred thousand proofs that Yahshua is the Messiah, let alone ONE MILLION.

THIS is why Fanatics blow up Churches: FOOLS mock other Religions, and smugly say:

"WE HAVE MANY MORE PROOFS THAT OUR JESUS IS THE MESSIAH- BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO SHOW YOU!"

These people get mad, and their Religious Leaders tell them:

"They are all liars! You've seen it with your own eyes! Let's BLOW THEM ALL UP- WITH OURSELVES- let GOD sort us out!"

People like SCIENCEWATCH just DON'T CARE that OTHERS pay for THEIR arrogance!

I found a video of Tuberculosis Joshua trying to explain why people FALL DOWN when he TOUCHES them for Healing.

(I tried to paste the link down HERE- but that no longer seems to work in THIS Android Browser.)

This man claimed to have been Healed by TUBERCULOSIS JOSHUA.

I was not convinced.

The man next to him did not seem convinced, either. TUBERCULOSIS JOSHUA touched HIM next: but HE REFUSED to ACT.

The man in the suit was clearly acting- in my opinion. I was a PENTECOSTAL CHRISTIAN when this phenomenon started. I remember the early controversies. I remember when Nigerian Preachers started employing "DESIGNATED CATCHERS," so that everyone could KNOW how POWERFUL they were.

The time one such laid hands on ME was the FIRST and LAST TIME I let anyone else do my Praying for me.

This man had no power: I am sure of it.

MAYBE TUBERCULOSIS JOSHUA has Healing Powers. This video is no proof of that.

After I left Organized Christianity, I did four years of Korean Karate. I AM SURE THAT THIS MAN FAKED HIS FALL.

When THE HOLY GHOST makes a person fall, it is because EVERY MUSCLE RELAXES INSTANTLY.

That is because SINNERS operate on LEVEL 8 Spiritual Power, and The First Spirit of God is a LEVEL 7 Entity.

This overwhelms the Spiritual Energy of the Person treated, so that THEY LOSE ALL MOTOR FUNCTIONS.

This guy FORGOT to RELAX his LEGS.

RECOVERY from such a shock is SLOW.

One should NOT be able to STAND UP INSTANTLY.

His "fall" looked like JUDO to me.

What do YOU think?

So only you have evidence that this man FAKED his fall because you studied martial arts ?

The HOLY SPIRIT will never use you to activate healing, so how come you can foolishly claim that you know how the man was supposed to bend his legs and when he can stand up ?

Your spiritual problems are getting worse by the day, Oaroloye. We must pray for you ! Really we will do so.

You could use your apparent and impressive skills more effectively for positive change by educating congregations on how to quickly identify a FAKE PASTOR from a TRUE ANOINTED PASTOR.

Oaroloye, Can you muster the courage to tackle a practical challenge of this magnitude ? I know you can do it right if you cut the crap only on this project.

Congregations world-wide desperately yearns for church to be manged the way the mighty Jesus intended. Where the promises of Jesus is demonstrated daily for improved lives. Jesus also promised, "I HAVE COME TO MAKE YOUR BURDENS LIGHT." He commanded them, "GO AND HEAL, DELIVER AND BLESS." etc etc etc.

There are signs that convince me that you can effectively create a TOPIC on this that will easily draw a million views.

realmindz:
There is no satanic battle anywhere, you are suffering from paranoid schizophrenia.

The battle is in your head.

Oraloye is a human like you. Death to your religiosity making you fight for dead gods hating your fellow man as satanic...

You are wrong again !

Oaroloye is not a human like me ! You should have said he is a human like you. I would prefer to be a CYBORG than Oaroloye. Lol! ha hic ha ha.

ScienceWatch:
You are deliberately twisting the TRUTH as usual to score brownie points with your foolish buddies.

No one in their right mind would dare say that TB JOSHUA is JESUS.

ONLY YOU CAN INSINUATE SUCH TRASH !

Will you care to show where I claimed that TB Joshua is Jesus ?

Dont be foolish and twist TRUTH for your petty selfish ambition, which is to gain a million confused "views."

What is wrong with AFRICA ? They trash the greatest gift God gives to a country, TRUE free healings, deliverance of evil spirits and incredible material blessings for individuals and the nation, then they spew trash into their other powerful gift called Nairaland.

A tool like Nairaland will be used to prosper a nation in the hands of sensible people.

onyenze123:
Nina4u

This is actually church business model and they carry it out with blazing efficiency.

My favorite verse in the bible is John 8:32 "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free".

Until Christians and religious folks start telling themselves the truth, they will never be free. They will continue to be slaves to their pastors who is their " saviour".

I finally agree with all you are saying here. I like your scripture ref: John 8:32.

WE MUST BE CAREFUL NOT TO CRITICIZE INNOCENT CONGREGATIONS !

The real problems dont come from the congregations world wide. If congregations knew how to easily use the Holy Gospels to quickly identify a FAKE PASTOR from a CHRIST ANOINTED PASTOR, the wheat will be separated from the chaff.

To bring effective change, target the cause of the problem. Educate the congregations on what the mighty Jesus Christ intended for every church world-wide. Jesus knew that mankind will thrive under proper spritual leadership. So, the Gospels are packed with examples of what Jesus approved of a TRUE ANOINTED PASTOR.

JESUS SAID, A TRUE ANOINTED PASTOR will be know by his"WORKS" which is Deliverance of demonic spirits, miraculous healings of all diseases and blessing the poor to break their poverty.

A FAKE PASTOR WILL ALSO BE KNOWN BY HIS "WORKS," which is talking and more talking. TALKING IS HARD WORK ! They are history teachers masquerading as PASTORS and therefore unable to activate Jesus's promise to mankind, which is "I have come to make your burdens light."

That why Emmanuel TV is the most effective study tool to quickly learn 7 DAYS PER WEEK/ 24 HOURS A DAY and witness thousands of LIVE personal testimonies confirming that all the promises of Jesus is TRUE. Jesus also said that the miracles help to increase peoples faith so that the creator of this world will be glorified. It is that simply !

Nina4u:
You don’t have to be a believer to laugh. Churches are now on roller-coasters! Pastors and prophets who cannot predict a boil are as hot as pepper in a foul society soup. They have just taken up the job Jesus Christ forgot to finish, except they want to finish it poorly. And the frantic crowd of stupid people loves it... Churches have become dairy farms where quack prophets milk gullible people who hunger for quick fixes to their problems. They are factories to mint money. Their activities are advertised on traditional media – posters, bill boards, flyers, radio, TV, loud hailers and all the like....As the business in church miracles and revenues flows into the coffers of the various churches from the expanding empire of the ungodly mercenaries, fortunes are lavished on mansions, elegance and ostentation. Very unlike Jesus’ days... I regarded with amusement T.B Joshua’s 52nd birthday party being broadcast on TV. The party was thrown somewhere in Mexico, not even in Nigeria. And I wondered where the modern ‘men of God’, who profess and mention the name of Jesus Christ in every sentence they utter get such funds to bankroll sumptuous birthday parties. The answer was clear; there are leagues of sinners out there paying for those parties. Then I also caught sight of our very own Chi riding in a Hummer jeep in the capital of Ngereffi land, then he walked on a red carpet to the deafening ululations of a multitude awaiting salvation from him.... I pray for Jesus to descend upon the modern money-changing pastors, rabbis and priests, prophets and drive them away from the from the pulpits....

When we witness millions of innocent people filling churches, mosques and stadiums to learn about God and worship God it becomes clear that deep in humanity's heart is a all powerful need to connect with God. Yes I agree with you that innocent congregations are suffering at the hands of FAKE PASTORS.

A man should not pastor a church if he is not ANOINTED because he will become a mere motivational speaker. (Without POWER)

IT IS ONLY THE ANOINTING THAT RELEASES GODS LOVE FOR THE MIND-BLOWING BENEFIT OF THE INNOCENT CONGREGATIONS. Jesus himself said that it is the miraculous fixing of the peoples problems that will make them glorify God. So he clearly explain why the miracles are an important sign of an authentic man of God. He said that it is the miracles that testify that he is of the FATHER.

A man gains access to POWER FOR the miracle healing, demonic deliverance and other blessings through the ANOINTING. That POWER is to be used for the direct benefit of all those that ACCEPT Jesus as the supernatural provider.

Because of Jesus' great love for humanity, He will never promote a FAKE PASTOR to manage a church and FREELY distribute the incredible blessing TO MANKIND as we now finally witness on a massive scale in the holy SCOAN CHURCH.

I mention the holy SCOAN CHURCH as only one example because the scientifically verifiable proofs of the Holy Gospels and the "WORKS" in The Book of Acts are very easy to study independently using the worlds most watched christian channel, EMMANUEL TV, in the privacy of ones own home.

We must be careful when we foolishly call for the destruction of religions. We cant attack and destroy the rightful institutions setup to teach mankind how to correctly enter into the holy atmosphere to restore mankinds relationship with God the creator of all things.

The sad problem facing us in the churches must be corrected by educating the INNOCENT CONGREGATIONS on how to identify a FAKE PASTOR from a TRUE ANOINTED PASTOR.

OtemAtum:
by the year 2625, a large proportion of the uric would have been fulfilled. Already, people are wisen up. By the time the likes of atheists like HopefulLandlord, Hahn, Mrmister etc gives birth and their children are leading your children in class whenever things relating to logic and science is being asked, then your children will be forced to question you, daddy, why are the children of those who don't even worship any god more intelligent than us? Then gradually, your children will start using their brains to think and to know that worshipping a god is the greatest scam ever introduced to human ideology. And by the year 2625, Nigeria will be filled up with brain users rather than god-slaves.

I see ! Then that day would certainly be recorded as the worst day in NIGERIA'S history.

I pity the children !

OtemAtum:
I just want to know your stance concerning hell fire so that I can deduce whether the Holy Ghost in you and the one in Wilgrea7 are the same or different

Sorry to disappoint you. Your scan won't find the HOLY Ghost in me.

I AM NOT ANOINTED !

OtemAtum:
You're not straightforward here. As for me, I know that everything is about illusion. Anything can be made to look real to anyone, just as the Magicians do and there was a time in the history of the Universe when the wicked gods like Yahweh, Moloch and co. we're successfully able to make that illusion of fire for those who worship them. But the Light of God Almighty, the father of Mazda, Yahweh, Allah Vishnu, Jupiter etc has made it impossible for any of these gods to be able to make such illusions again. That is what I OTEM knows. Now for you, do you believe hell fire is still in existence or not? It's that simple to answer.

You say it is now not possible to make such illusions again.

Then why do you push me for my opinion?

OtemAtum:
Mighty scammer has gone to Israel. This is the work of nature to liberate Africa from gullibility. I'm looking forward to the day the likes of Oyedepo and co would leave Africa for us too. Gradually some of my urims are coming to pass. Churches will eventually be turned to more useful things as time goes on when many church members stop falling maga.

will you be disappointed if you had to wait another thousand years for your dreams to fade into nothingness ?

History can help clarify wishful thinking.

OtemAtum:
Still on the question: is hell real or not? I just want to test if the Holy ghosts in you and Wilgrea7 are the same or different. I think Wilgrea7 has the Revised Standard Version of the HOLY Ghost while you have the KJV version. Pls answer the question. Thanks.

Lol in HEBREW!
The way you are putting undue pressure on me, it feels as if the fire of he'll could be real already.

OtemAtum:
you haven't answered my question. Is hell real or not? Just answer yes or no.

Lol in HEBREW !
I really don't want to spoil your fun.

Let Oaroloye work his magic on you.

OtemAtum:
kikiki, laffing in swahili

you will be laughing in HEBREW soon. The JEWS have finally welcomed the MIGHTY Misiah back to the holy land.

This move brings incredible JOY to enlightened ones WORLDWIDE.

But it stirs hatred and ENVY in the PETTY HEARTS of Lovers of SATAN.

OtemAtum:
Oaroloye is not a scam, the real scammer is your own Very Samuel Chinedum Ekwueme whom you know as 4evergod. Now let me know whether you will also call Wilgrea7 a scam after this question I'll ask: Is hell fire real? Wilgrea7 said it is a false doctrine that hell fire is real. What do you say? Is hell fire real?

Thank you for the question that you should by now be able to answer yourself.

Meanwhile, about Wigrea7, I have read many of His posts and greatly respect him.

I really should leave you to find your own answers for now.

OtemAtum:
Sermon on the Mount. All in all, fictitious Jesus remains the Christ aka the deceiver.

EVERY CHRISTIAN KNOWS THAT THERE ARE MORE THAN ONE MILLION PROOFS THAT JESUS IS THE MIGHTY MISIAH.

THANKS ALSO TO EMMANUEL TV THE WORLD IS FINALLY ARMED WITH SCIENTIFICALLY VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE that the WORKS/MIRACLES of the mighty JESUS IS REAL.

OtemAtum:
@Wilgrea7/Sciencewatch vs Oaroloye: see confusion in the body of christ. I guess the Holy Spirits in you guys are different from one another

LET IT BE CLEAR, THAT THERE IS NEVER CONFUSION IN THE BODY OF THE MIGHTY JESUS CHRIST.

What you are witnessing, good Sir, is a scam perpetrated by A SATANIC ATHEIST named here as Oaroloye. He has cowardly chosen JESUS and the awesome miracles as his victim. He will shamelessly twist Hell into any TRUTH so that it matches his Satanical agenda.

This idiot is small fry ! His lift don't go all the way to the top. He is now using the BIBLE to prove that JESUS CHRIST CONTRADICTED HIMSELF. This madman also uses the BIBLE to prove that RAPE IS NOT A SIN. IT seem like he is using Meth/ Tic which eat holes in the users brain. He display massive gaps in applied intelligence.
Pastor Bronchitis Oaroloye's hateful 34 yr long cowardly propaganda against the lone SCOAN CHURCH NIGERIA with the help of thousands of jealous and envious Pentecostal PFN leaders and blind followers have proven to be a disastrous failure for him seeing that he swore under oath to succeed.

Now that God has blessed the SCOAN CHURCH with the transparent live medium of Emmanuel TV to prove the truth to the world, you and your Pentecostal masters are exposed for what you are. Envious scumbags !!

Pastor Bronchitis, you have exhausted all the top level smear campaigns and brutal propaganda techniques that served Hitler well, only to look like an idiot in front of the world. A simple transparent global TV channel called Emmanuel TV and the world-wide exposure of SCOAN CHURCH on youtube was your downfall.

I am observing your psychotic behavior pastor Bronchitis Oaroloye and would like to donate to you an Asylum Straight-Jacket out of love
you will need it.

TWOYANSH:
why waste your time trying to proof He is not the Messiah?

He simply don't need your approval!!

You are so so wrong.. .. In short

This guy, Oaroloye is a demented low level ATHEIST poorly disguised as a FAKE PASTOR who's real agenda is to sow doubts in the minds of trusting children of God.

He cowardly bullies Christians, but he won't dare mess with ISLAM because they have the DREADED ISLAMIC FATWA to defend against cowards such as Oaroloye.

If you ever make the mistake of learning about GOD from THE MASTER OF CONTRADICTIONS, Oaroloye, you will end up in a state MENTAL ASYLUM.

JESUS said, "I have come to give you life in abundance." Learn direct from the GOSPELS and a LIVING CHURCH where the WORKS manifest.

oaroloye:

FRESH OUT OF "SHALOM!" AT THIS TIME.





This sort of asinine questioning is the proof that you do not know anything of significance.

THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD ARE THE BUILDING-BLOCKS OF EXISTENCE.

Whosoever DOES THEM will KNOW THE TRUTH, and be FREE from ALL BONDAGES and CONFINEMENTS- including the IGNORANCE and BLINDNESS that YOU suffer from, caused by your ARROGANCE, CYNICISM, and PRIDE.

You refused to LEARN.

You are refusing to learn NOW.



ANYONE WHO DOES NOT DO THIS IMMEDIATELY IS NOT A REAL CHRISTIAN, AND CANNOT BE RELIED ON.

[color=silver].[/color]. LEVITICUS 11:1-12.

11 And The LORD spoke unto Moses and to Aaron,
Saying unto them,
2. “Speak unto the Children of Israel,
saying,

‘THESE ARE THE BEASTS
WHICH YE SHALL EAT
AMONG ALL THE BEASTS
THAT ARE ON THE EARTH.'

3. "Whatsoever parteth the hoof
and is cloven-footed
and cheweth the cud among the Beasts,
that shall ye eat.
4. "Nevertheless these shall ye not eat,
of those that chew the cud
or of those that divide the hoof:
the camel,
because he cheweth the cud
but divideth not the hoof,
he is unclean unto you;
5. "And the coney,
because he cheweth the cud
but divideth not the hoof,
he is unclean unto you;
6. "And the hare
because he cheweth the cud
but divideth not the hoof,
he is unclean unto you;
7. "And the swine,
though he divide the hoof
and is cloven-footed,
yet he cheweth not the cud,
he is unclean to you.
8. "Of their flesh shall ye not eat,
and their carcass shall ye not touch;
they are unclean to you."
9. "These shall ye eat of all that are in the waters:
whatsoever hath fins and scales in the waters,
in the seas, and in the rivers,
them shall ye eat.
10. "And all that have not fins and scales in the seas,
and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters,
and of any living thing which is in the waters,
they shall be an abomination unto you:
11. "They shall be even
an abomination unto you;
ye shall not eat of their flesh,
but ye shall have their carcases
in abomination.
12. "Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales
in the waters,
that shall be an abomination unto you."

THE WHOLE POINT OF THE BIBLE IS THAT YOU MEET UP WITH GOD.

[color=silver].[/color] DEUTERONOMY 30:19-20.

19. I call Heaven and Earth to record
this day against you,
that I have set before you
Life and Death,
Blessing and Cursing:
therefore Choose Life,
that both thou
and thy seed may live:
20. That thou mayest love
The LORD thy God,
and that thou mayest obey His Voice,
and that thou mayest cleave unto Him:
for He is thy Life,
and the Length of thy days:
that thou mayest dwell in the land
which The LORD sware unto thy fathers,
to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob,
to give them.

BUT WE HAVE TO CHOOSE IT.

[color=silver].[/color] DEUTERONOMY 6:4-9.

4. Hear, O Israel:
The LORD our God is one LORD:
5. And thou shalt love
The LORD thy God
with all thine Heart,
and with all thy Soul,
and with all thy might.
6. And these Words,
which I Command thee this day,
shall be in thine heart:
7. And thou shalt teach Them
diligently unto thy children,
and shalt talk of Them
when thou sittest in thine house,
and when thou walkest by the way,
and when thou liest down,
and when thou risest up.
8. And thou shalt bind Them
for a sign upon thine hand,
and they shall be as frontlets
between thine eyes.
9. And thou shalt write Them
upon the posts of thy house,
and on thy gates.

AND OUR COMMITMENT AND DEDICATION MUST BE MAXIMAL.

[color=silver].[/color] EXODUS 20:1-7.

AND God spake all these Words,
Saying,
2. "I am The LORD thy God,
Which have brought thee
out of the land of Egypt,
out of the House of Bondage.
3. "Thou shalt have no other gods
before Me.
4. "Thou shalt not make unto thee
any graven image,
or any likeness of any thing
that is in Heaven above,
or that is in the Earth beneath,
or that is in the Water under the Earth:
5. "Thou shalt not
bow down thyself to them,
nor serve them:
for I the LORD thy God
am a Jealous God,
visiting the iniquity of the fathers
upon the Children
unto the Third and Fourth Generation
of them that Hate Me;
6. "And shewing Mercy
unto thousands of them
that Love Me,
and keep My Commandments.
7. "Thou shalt not take
The Name of the LORD thy God
in vain;
for The LORD will not
hold him Guiltless
that taketh His Name in vain."

YOU CANNOT DEAL WITH GOD: THE CREATOR, AND ESTEEM SOMETHING HE CREATED AS MORE IMPORTANT TO YOU THAN HIM.

I think that that should be commonsense reasoning- but I think that I am in the MINORITY on that.

[color=silver].[/color] 2^nd CHRONICLES 16:9.

9. "For The Eyes of The LORD
run to and fro
throughout the whole Earth,
to show Himself strong
on behalf of those whose heart
is perfect toward Him.
Herein thou hast done foolishly:
therefore from henceforth
thou shalt have wars.”

[color=silver].[/color] AMOS 3:3.

3. "Can two walk together,
except they be agreed?”

SOMEHOW, BOTH BELIEVERS AND UNBELIEVERS ALIKE EXPECT GOD TO JUST IGNORE THE FACT THAT THEIR FAMILY, THEIR JOB, THEIR BUSINESS, THEIR DIET, THEIR HOME, THEIR HEALTH, THEIR CLOTHING, THEIR FEELINGS, THEIR FRIENDS' FEELINGS ETC. ARE MORE IMPORTANT TO THEM THAN HIM.

After that, other people's ideas and opinions on God do not matter, because YOU HAVE THE SOURCE.

You don't know GOD, nor do you believe in His Existence: because you have rejected Him as He was Presented in The TORAH- so you are looking for a substitute. Which can only be FAKE.

I have already explained how to understand Scripture before. THE KOSHER/TREIF LAW is the encoded Secret Teaching on HOW TO ESCAPE FROM THE LIMITATIONS OF THE BRAIN, and use your WHOLE MIND.

wow.. i really dislike this mindset... there are different interpretations of the words of Yahshua... depending on different perspectives and levels of knowledge... how come I'm automatically for the devil because i didn't agree with you?

((*Psst!*) GUYS? I THINK HE REALLY DOESN'T KNOW!)

i did not say there are alternative interpretations... i said there are different interpretations... yours is just one of them... my question was... “how does my disagreement with you make me 100% for Satan??" .. how come your interpretation gets to be the one and final one... i said different interpretations.. not alternative

YOU ARE STILL SAYING "ALTERNATIVE!"

There are NO "DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS" of GOD'S COMMANDMENTS: you either DO WHAT GOD SAID, or else it is a SIN.

THE LORD gave examples of PHARISEE ATTEMPTS to give DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS of God's Commandments:

"HONOUR THY FATHER AND THY MOTHER;"

and,

"WHOSOEVER CURSETH FATHER OR MOTHER
SHALL BE PUT TO DEATH."

The Pharisees said that if their parents asked them for something, they could get out of it with an EXCUSE.

That renders those TWO Commandments USELESS!

GOD DOESN'T CARE ABOUT YOUR DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS!

He judges SIN based on OBEDIENCE OF THE BASIC PRINCIPLE.

He Commands that you NOT COOK A KID'S MEAT IN HIS OWN MOTHER'S MILK.

The JEWISH HYPOCRITES said:

"WE WILL USE SEPARATE UTENSILS FOR SAVOURY AND DESSERT DISHES!"

FOOLS.

After they couldn't find the Son of God guilty in ANYTHING he ever did: NO pair of WITNESSES could accuse him of doing ANYTHING wrong.

Finally, the High Priest asked:

"ARE YOU THE CHRIST, THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD?"

He said:

"I am."

"*ARRGH!* BLASPHEMY! WE GOTTA KILL HIM!"

THE LAW FORBIDS the Priest to rip his robe: but he ripped his robe.

He should have turned himself in to be crucified next to Yahshua- who was being executed on a made-up Commandment of Men.

BUT THE SANHEDRIN FELT OKAY... THEY WERE NOT MIXING MEAT AND MILK TOGETHER!



that quote of mine was old.. i don't follow any religion.. so i couldn't care less if any of them was right

LIARS CHANGE THEIR STATED OPINIONS LIKE THEIR UNDERWEAR- AND EVEN DO NOT CARE IF PEOPLE LOSE THEIR LIVES OR SOULS, BELIEVING THEM.

sorry to say but your observations, inferences etc didn't give you a correct view of my beliefs

You are lying again.

You hate your Brother, and are BLINDED BY DARKNESS. You are in no position to say what others can or cannot see.

Yahshua never said believing he died would automatically give you a key to heaven/paradise.. he gave commandments that would yield eternal life to the follower if followed.. I'm not the one calling Yahshua a liar.. salvation is not by believing he died.. salvation is by obeying his commandments



if Jesus wanted everyone to believe he was the Christ before obeying his commandments, he would have been preaching that he is the Christ.. he brought the message which was necessary.. the roman Catholic church is the one that changed salvation to be hinged on just believing Christ came to die for you.. while disregarding his message.. newsflash.. scriptures were added.



you are clearly contradicting yourself... if someone's knowledge of Christ or God happened to be the adulterated type used for control and that person acquires true knowledge or knowledge more inclined to the truth than the previous one, his views will change.. you can't expect his knowledge to increase on the foundation of the false knowledge he was taught to believe.. also, if your views now are different from what they were before you became a full gospel Pentecostal, then I'm sorry but you are also a dog because you fit into the same category you classified me

sanesta:
your first paragraph. You mean he actually said that??

Be careful when dealing with the OP Nina4u.

The OP is like it was written by a desperate drug addict hoping for relief.

Careful examination will reveal that this idiot was never at the holy SCOAN CHURCH.

BEWARE NAIRALAND READERS, the way someone directly attacks the DIGNITY of persons that have a proven track record of uplifting the lives of millions of people WORLDWIDE, is the way they will deal with you if you get close to them.

It is that simple. Watch closely. The way a person cowards someone else, is a clear message to you. Ignore it at your loss !

Nina4u:
I can see you are one of them that can beat a theif to the brink of death and lust and enjoy the smell of blood and then set him on fire and burn him alive.. The way you talk I can see the evil in you.. May God heal your wicked heart.. You can't hide from or lie to God.. He see your heart and one day we all going to be judged accordingly

After you insult and deliberately destroy the dignity of a truly humble man that have a proven record of reestablishing the DIGNITY OF MILLIONS WORLDWIDE, you now slyly and deceitfully accuse me of the very thing THAT YOU ARE GUILTY OF.

It is SHITBAGS like you that encourage me to see the wisdom of the DREADED ISLAMIC FATWA.

You coward Christians because they don't have FATWA to deal with scrum like you.

But you forget, as you sit on your smelly toilet pot and insult Godly persons, that you have opened the way for the DARK SIDE to gain the upper hand in your life.

You are looking for respect in the wrong place.

I have zero sympathy for your type.

ONLY A MENTALLY UNSTABLE PERSON WILL DARE CLAIM THAT TB JOSHUA IS JESUS !

Topgainer:
Not at all. I preempted your next write up and replied them.
it is obvious the person that commissioned you with the task of singing his praises is wicked for converting you to a Robot. I assume you are not a Nigerian but in case you are, you should know that TB Joshua can never be Jesus, he lacked the Knowledge and Spirit that made Jesus, Christ. Before your holy prophet and scoan, others have come claiming to be Jesus and saviour of the world, yet they failed to be Jesus despite the public displays. It takes more to be Jesus and the Jews are by nature impatient.
We shall see how long they will bear with your holy prophet Joshua as he tries to establish his religion in the Middle East. If Nigerians saw through him and labeled his approach as lacking in substance be rest assured that it will take the Israeli Jewish faithfuls a shorter time to sort him out.
Have a nice day.

are you so dumb, Topgainer ? TB JOSHUA is not going to establish HIS RELIGION in the holy land.

The JEWS are initiating an historic repentance.

You hatefully twist TRUTH to match your envy and Jealousy for the man TB JOSHUA.

You are deliberately twisting the TRUTH as usual to score brownie points with your foolish buddies.

No one in their right mind would dare say that TB JOSHUA is JESUS.

ONLY YOU CAN INSINUATE SUCH TRASH !

Topgainer:
Not at all. I preempted your next write up and replied them.
it is obvious the person that commissioned you with the task of singing his praises is wicked for converting you to a Robot. I assume you are not a Nigerian but in case you are, you should know that TB Joshua can never be Jesus, he lacked the Knowledge and Spirit that made Jesus, Christ. Before your holy prophet and scoan, others have come claiming to be Jesus and saviour of the world, yet they failed to be Jesus despite the public displays. It takes more to be Jesus and the Jews are by nature impatient.
We shall see how long they will bear with your holy prophet Joshua as he tries to establish his religion in the Middle East. If Nigerians saw through him and labeled his approach as lacking in substance be rest assured that it will take the Israeli Jewish faithfuls a shorter time to sort him out.
Have a nice day.

Deicide:
What do you Expect When Religion is the Opium of The Masses?

the answer is pretty simple.
Why do you struggle with this ? Who can you blame if your lift don't go all the way to the top ?

It will be great if RELIGION was the opium of the masses. If the love of God was revealed to MANKIND the way it is done in the HOLY SCOAN CHURCH hospitals would be empty. Mental asylums and prisons will close down.

Society would be a much safer place for woman and children.

hahn:
Fake god

Fake religion

Fake bible

Fake prophesy

Mugu fall, guyman wack. Money must be made!

you actually wrote this insulting trash RECENTLY.

So therefore a spiritual checkup is in order.
Do you feel anxious, nervous for no good reason?

Do you notice that you are behaving aggressively and cowardly toward others you deem lesser than ?

Do you find yourself behaving cowardly toward God's created creatures ?

I can tell from your writings that you unaware of the DARKNESS and it's POWER.

hopefulLandlord:
we are not afraid of their imaginary friend (Yahweh, Jesus, holy spirit, Paul) neither are we afraid of their imaginary enemies (Lucifer, Satan, devil)


why then would we be afraid of the messengers of imaginary friend?

You wrote this while sitting on your stinking toilet pot recently.

How are you feeling now ? ANXIETY, DEPRESSED, LOOKING OVER YOUR SHOULDER.

Are you behaving cowardly, like toward woman, children, animals, insects etc etc

Look and learn the hard way. Which is the only method of choice of fools.

All the best on your journey through real life.