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ValerianSteel:
You call those sanctions Prohibition of Importation of Turkish food,ban on chartered flights between Turkey and Russia,cancellation of visa free travel between Russia and Turkey.

Every of the aforementioned sanctions against Turkey by Russia can be returned in the same weight.Putin is just a noise maker.

Russia is Turkish biggest import partner while Germany is Turkish biggest export partner,so tell me,if Russia is refusing to sell her products-in specifics gas,Turkey would look for another trading partner.It may be difficult finding a stable trading partner to replace Russia but definitely there'll be an alternative,the market is wide enough

You really digging in to the Russian propaganda against Turkey,Turkey on the other hand remains unflinching and unapologetic,for Turkey to have taken such action,she definitely has a plan to keep her hand from landing on a stake put in place by Russia,no country will deliberately sabotaged its safety,stability and economy in the name of supposedly settling a score with Russia.

My dead Obama that your living Putin couldn't look in the eye in the Paris throwing shades like a wailing bitcch he currently is

Hahaha lol.. I kuku did not mention the sanction list, you mentioned it yourself. Well, gas is where it hurt the most and sure, there won't be Russian tourist inflow. Lets even forget about that. Turkey will lose on both sides now..One, no more Deaseh stolen oil, it recently decided to sign gas contracts with qatar. Honestly, there won't be any gas pipelines across Syria, the reason Qatar started sponsoring its own arms of terrorists in Syria. (Far back as 2009..Long story)

No more Daesh oil, no more Russian gas contract or huge pipelines.(I could remember, the south stream (Bulgaria) was canceled and started Turkish stream). Now who be the loser nah ? It won't end there oh.

I am even very ashamed that I have to argue with a sub-human that ignores the use of common sense. Turkey stealing Syrian oil, sponsoring terrorist, then someone that has normal human brains bombed the illegal oil tanks and this sub-human and its miscreants like someone (jnhmaxxwell) said, are supporting terrorist. Obama leading the terrorist group, the terrorist alliance NATO. You atually expect Putin to look into terrorist eye and say good job terrorist leader Obama ?

If you have lost your senses or sense of humanity, you really need to re-think about being human. May be it will be nice if you turn to a real robot. Because robot is obviously better. Now who is on the right side of history ? Me or you ? NATO or Russia ? Stealing Syrian oil sponsoring terrorists or those who are against it and said enough is enough ?

Now you see why the empire is falling everyday ? I am sad for you. Obama i repeat is a dead idiot, stupidity at maximum level is what is wrong with him. He has no say by the way, a mere puppet to the Neocons, the Zionist.

Neocons kangaroo that says as I do. And this nonentity @ ValerianSteel supporting the dead is just cynical.


Meanwhile, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Qatar, Turkey and the head of the empire U.S.A and NATO are birds of a feather. On the wrong side of history and you shall see. The war is on Syrian Army side which ever way you want it.. Turkey is just a Scape-goat and Russia knows very well.

Still waiting for what Saudi will do. It has started increasing its power covertly. We shall see. Isreal for sure will continue it covert and pressurizing its neocons in the U.S...



The videos of turkey stealing Syrian oil are propaganda nah.. Ode oshi..

It is simply because they fought too many wars in the past even with each other and are the most united in Nigeria. They understand the issues very well, they have been there, done that and very difficult to be manipulated in Nigeria.


* Because they are very tolerant and the most civilized in Nigeria. They still practice their own religion while they tolerate every other religions. There is religious tolerance to a maximum level in the SW.

Pastor Caught Pants down in female Church members house while trying to perform deliverance on her Through s3x. Watch the Video After the Jump. This is abomination of the highest order. Back in the day, some say the Babaalawos always use juju to snatch someone's wife. These were just allegations which was never confirmed.. Now what are today's pastor using to prak another church member's wife ? Juju or Bible ?
Watch it bellow.. * He wanna fu*k my wife"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuU13N8H8GA

- See more at: http://naijagisto..com/2015/12/naija-gist-exclusive-video-pastor.html#sthash.iUVq14rs.dpuf

ValerianSteel:
So much for the Russian Machismo cause apparently Putin has proven to be a wailing bitcch with the way he rants and throws shades lately

Yea, that's the best leader in the world. He can't shout and i'm liking him more... So far the Turkish gas pipe-line project has been shutdown, sanctions followed.. These are the right step before you wage a full scale war.. Naturally it does not make sense, you are fighting a war with someone and still doing business with that person..Shooting down one Fighter jet again did not stop the bombing of Turks militants in the ilegal oil business.. In-fact it has escalated it.

Sanction first.. Erogan is just a scape-goat. Putin again has done the right thing.. Let him continue talking... Millions if not Billions of people are counting on him. Compare to your dead Obama, the Neocon's puppet that only speaks english and everyone claps, go back home to listen again to what he said, you find out it does not make any sense..

Lobatan oh.. And they are fighting ISIS... Laugh of the century, these guys in pentagon, CIA really think everyone else is stupid. These guys must be on Gbana

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Russia's President said that Allah, apparently, decided to punish Turkey's leadership by making them lose their minds.

Russia's president said: "We were ready to cooperate with Turkey on any sensitive issue and were ready to go much further than [Turkey's other] allies were willing to. "
Earlier, on Monday, Russian President Vladimir Putin said Russia had received additional evidence that oil from fields controlled by Daesh, which is prohibited in Russia, were being transported to Turkey on an industrial scale.

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"Only Allah knows, why they did it," Putin said.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and his family are involved in the illegal deliveries of oil from the Islamic State, known in the Arab world as Daesh and whose activities are prohibited in Russia, Russian Deputy Defense Minister Anatoly Antonov said earlier Wednesday.

​"It's the duty of every civilized country to take part in the defeat of terrorists," Vladimir Putin said.

Moscow has been conducting pinpoint airstrikes on terrorist positions, particularly those of Islamic State, in Syria at President Bashar Assad's request since September 30.

On November 24, a Russian Su-24 attack aircraft was downed by an air-to-air missile while carrying out precision strikes against terrorist positions in northern Syria. The missile was fired by a Turkish F-16 fighter in response to an alleged violation of Turkish airspace by the Russian jet.

"I do not understand why they did it. Any problem — even that which we might have missed — could have been dealt with in a different way," Russia's president stressed.

Both the Russian General Staff and the Syrian Air Defense Command have confirmed that the Su-24 never crossed into Turkish airspace and was illegally downed on Syrian territory In the wake of the incident, Russia introduced a set of economic measures against Turkey, while Ankara has refused to apologize for the move.

Russia has a lot of longtime and trusted friends in Turkey, who should know that Moscow does not equate them to the Turkish government, according to Putin.
http://nigeriaproperty-real..com/2015/12/allah-decided-to-punish-turkey-leaders.html

vedaxcool:
Once any individual falls into mental slavery, he becomes victim of his own lies!



Russia spoon feeding its hasbara trolls lies everyday!

The truth hurts.. Wake up to the present realities.. You are a learner... Anglozionist Empire will fall... It's in mess right now. Russia is winning the information war.. it won it during the Crimean referendum.. It will win it again..

The mental disorderliness is common with the colonial states of the brits. Yes, and this is why majority of Nigerians are so glued to the western mass brainwash media. Mere effigy of Propaganda. Mental slavery is really a disease curable..
Our likes that sent the brits parking are already in good terms, doing great things of mutual interest with Russia, China and far away from its major adversary.. The west, brits, Anglozionist empire, the Evil..


Western "values" are the bane of our present day civilization. We must turn "eastward", towards China, Russia, Latin America, India. The future of the planet depends on this. The Anglo zionist kleptocracy has defiled our planet. We need to reset our compasses to turn away from this scourge."

Anglozionist empire will die a slow but painful death, (the same way Soviet empire passed out) so as its proxies, Biafra and boko haram, NATO, DEASH, ISIL.. They will eventually pass on.

Wahhabi saudi arabia terrorist organization backed by the same west, anglozionist empire, will soon pass on..

Israel does not have a future in the middle east. These are the recent realities.

The future of the Planet is a muti-polar world. A world that makes super sense.. ADF ( African development bank) BRICS, AIIB, SCO are the next world economic frontiers..

Now deal with that... Anglozionist Prick head.

vedaxcool:
It remains arrant stewpidity for someone to call every news media that does not reflect Russia propaganda lies!

Continue wallowing in massive western propaganda. The most terrible propaganda on earth is when you are being propagandied and you can't even figure it out via the use of common sense. Now that is BBC propaganda for you.. It is the father of Propaganda while speaking its Queens English, your entire generation is being Propagandized and it's known as Mind controlling propaganda media..

Now, CNN, FOX,ABC, ANBC are sons of BBC, that is the children the father of Propaganda gave birth to.. Here CNN tends to give you two sides of the story while giving you little or less information usually very misleading about the side they don't even want you to think deep about(Usually the right side or their opponent side).. They stress what they want you to think more using grammar and Hollywood like graphics just to control your mind..

Now this is what is known as Mind controlling propaganda media network.. Unlike the Russian Media that does not have the Hollywood like media.. It's very easy to spot when a Russian media does propaganda. Now what Russia is doing is counter propaganda.

This is what made CNN to even single handed-ly say that 4 cruise missiles fell in Iran out of about 26 that traveled 1500km from Russia to hit targets in Syria..

Now that is known as Physiological media/information war and directed at it puppets and zombies..

Now the table has turned around.. What the Soviets use to do that even the Russians themselves never believed has turned around, now the west are doing the same thing.. It's a sign of weakness and falling too fast. (During the soviet days, it used to be in a leaflet, they mass drop it and people pick up, majority of whom did not believe one bit)

May be it is time for the AngloZionist Empire to eat the humble pie and just break like the Soviet empire without a real war.. The table has turned around. The AngloZionist Empire is going down by the day.

After this proof, If anyone ever had any doubts about the involvement of NATO (Turkey and Americans) in Daesh (ISIS) then that is no longer necessary. All evidence has been given. NATO is a terror organisation by any standard.
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Russian Defense Ministry has presented photos of oil delivery convoys at Syria-Turkey border, the head of the Russian General Staff’s operative command said.

The general staff has irrefutable evidence on Turkey's involvement in illegal oil trade. Moscow has called on Turkey to open access to the places where, according to the retrieved Russian intel, Daesh oil trade centers are located:
"If there is nothing there — then the territories in question should be inspected," the Deputy Defense Minister Anatoly Antonov stressed.

"We have identified three main oil routes," the head of the Russian General Staff’s operative command Sergei Rudskoy said.
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The map of illegal oil trade routes
© PHOTO: YOUTUBE / RT
The map of illegal oil trade routes
The western route leads to the Turkish ports in the Mediterranean, the northern — to Patma oil refinery, and the eastern — to Cazri transfer point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHx-4XCgzDY


The ministry provided photographs of columns of oil fuel tankers on the Turkish-Syrian border. Fuel tankers with oil freely cross the border between Turkey and Iraq, according to Russia's General Staff.

"Space recoinassance established that after crossing the border tanker trucks move further into Turkey," Rudskoy said. Then the oil is being delivered to third countries.

The oil from Daesh-controlled areas in Syria is being shipped to third countries for processing after having been transported to Turkey, the head of the Russian General Staff's operative command noted.

"According to the most modest estimates, the terrorists' revenues from criminal [oil] business stood at no less than $3 million per day. After our airstrikes, the revenues went down to $1.5 million per day," Lt. Gen. Sergei Rudskoy told reporters.


On Monday, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that Moscow has evidence that its Su-24 was shot down by Turkish forces on the Syrian border in order to protect oil deliveries from Daesh to Turkey, and that oil from Daesh-controlled fields is being exported to Turkey on an industrial scale.

Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan vehemently denied the allegations, vowing that if evidence does surface, he will resign from the presidency.

arresa:
Deploying S 400 has nothing to do with no fly zone against anybody. UN is yet to delare such resolution in Syria and Russia gan sef won't dare utter that nonsense in another country. Syria is not Russia.

S400 was deployed to monitor and coordinate their own operations and protect their own base in Syria.

The same way UN co-ordinated no fly zone in Libya right ?? Stop typing crap.. the only authorization Russia needs which by all international law and standard is for Assad to come out and say, he declares all coalition to vacate Syrian Air-Space.. Lobatan.. No fly Zone declared and anything any one sees, he should take care.. I think this is not the right time to do that.. Trust Putin nah..

He knows the game wella.. He's been there b4...Afterall it's Syrian Air-space, not American, not Turkish and not the fake coalition..

vedaxcool:
The sad thing about people like you is that if one criticize Russia he must be in support of the US, which indicates a very illogical way of thinking and reasoning. That is the heart of the problem in dealing with you Russia Hasbara trolls, neither Russia nor US holds the monopoly over truth or morality. It take one absolutely mad to think there are no moderate fighters in Syria, the issue being discussed is Russia indiscriminate bombing of civilians something that led Syria to where it is today.

You need to submit your CV to International Human right oh.. Russia has passed that information war crap.. All the bombing Russia did are being recorded.. If you are not following it.. please stop typing already.. and continue being zombie, watching one sided media..

Oya..

Missy89:
I noticed that talking to you is like talking to a wall but let me educate you a bit before i stop quoting stupidity




No, Debunked by daily press release for the DoD

http://www.defense.gov/News/Special-Reports/0814_Inherent-Resolve



The US have conducted around 2703 in Syria. Tell me a coalition country with more combat sorties.

i told you several times.. if you want the truth... stop copying from the west... Ode ni e ni ?? Meanwhile, always ask locals , those in the front-lines or those very close...
2700 combat sorties.. The whole coalition did ??

Within one month Russia alone.. from September 30, to November 03 The Russian Aerospace Forces have carried out 1,631 sorties and destroyed 2,084 ISIL targets..

This is the information I have or recorded the last time. I need to record from 03 November to 02 December to know the total sorties carried out by the Russian Airforce..

if all the puppet coalition after one year could only boat of 6k sorties and Russia within 2 months is already at 2k Sorties destroying real ISIS targets, well i don't know what mess the coalition is doing in the Syrian air-space.. I still remain on my point, since the deployment of s-400 system, U.S force has been keeping away from the Syrian AirSpace... This is telling you what U.S loves doing the most.. Does not want a confrontation with Russia but would rather push its puppets to fight Russia while it remains the local champ..

That will eventually fail because Russia will so destroy its primary Puppet or scape-goat.. And Russia already put its plans on the Table. Turkey may be cut into two if Turkey continues like this.. Meaning shooting Russian Jets..

Now see the reason Turkey shut down Su-24 bellow.. This is one thing your dead defense website will not show u..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxcAcKwaGQI

Missy89:
Rt?

Lol. How hopeless can you be? The story you are peddling has been debunked yet you are still posting it. Are you a zombie?

debunked by western propaganda media right or you ?
im just helping your situation, you are too lost beyond recognition. Following Jagons media... You are far away from reality.. S-400 is not something U.S itself want to get involved with.. except send its vassals as usual. Those you called the coalition.. How many did U.S itself strike ? We re not talking about Iraq.. U.S has more than 1k soldiers in Iraq.

You should stop and see the facts on ground..

SYRIAN ARMY MAKES GAINS IN LATAKA, AIMING TO TAKE CONTROL OF BORDER WITH TURKEY

The Syrian Arab Army (SAA) supported by the Social Nationalist Party (SSNP) abd the National Defense Forces (NDF) took control control of the strategic village of Arafat in the Jubb Al-Ahmar in the Latakia Governorate’s northeastern countryside. It’s the area of the Prophet Jonah Mountains (Jabal Nabi Younis).

Before the Syrian forces liberate the village, it had been controlled by the Syrian Al-Qaeda group “Jabhat Al-Nusra, the Free Syrian Army’s “Liwaa Suqour Al-Ghaab”, and Harakat Ahrar Al-Sham.

Separately, the SAA and itse allies captured the villages of Raweesat Sheikhou and Katf Al-Salat in the Prophet Jonah Mountains.

As a result of these developments, the Syrian forces are now within 20km of the Turkish border and less than 15km away from the city of Jisr Al-Shughour.

Al-Latamna Province

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fnwEsgj8uc

Turkish Weapon Convoy in Aleppo Province

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzIcacwJnWs

mazeltov:
what shall we call a situation when a child challenges his father into a contest?

So always learn manners from your grand father. By your comment, I can tell you are like a grand-child. You obviously need spanking.. Learner

A world war between, on one hand, the so-called ‘West’ (the US Empire) and the the ‘Resistance’
What is taking place today is a battle for global dominance, waged by major Western geopolitical players, and what is at stake here is the future of our planet, an anonymous US analyst who goes by the name ‘The Saker’ told Sputnik; as for Daesh, it is simply a weapon, he adds.

Putin Plays Waiting Game as NATO Presses Self-Destruct Button During the Paris Climate Change Conference (COP21), Russian President Putin revealed that Moscow has evidence confirming that the Russian Su-24 bomber was shot down by Turkey in order to protect oil deliveries from Daesh (ISIL/ISIS), adding that oil from Daesh-occupied fields has been transferred to Turkey on an industrial scale.

But is it possible that Turkey is selling the stolen oil without Washington’s knowledge? Are the Turkish officials who are responsible for oil smuggling acting alone or are they backed by some influential oil market players?

“US intelligence agencies suffer from many weaknesses, but being unable to track money movements is not one of them,” The Saker, an anonymous top level American military analyst, told Sputnik in an exclusive interview.

“Furthermore, both the USA and Israel have an extensive network for agents in Turkey. I thus consider it extremely unlikely that anybody in Turkey would be able to move around large sums of money without the US being fully aware of that. Also, consider that Daesh is a top-priority target for US intelligence agencies and that their immense data collection capabilities are also focused on the Daesh side of the equation,” he emphasized.

“Finally,” The Saker added, “the illegal sale of oil is a minor element in a much more important battle between the USA and the Russia-Iran-Syria alliance and, thus, the US would never allow it to interfere with its bigger objectives.”

The analyst underscored that corruption has long been an integral part of the US “imperial” system.

“Corruption being one key feature of the US Empire, it is normal for the US deep state to allow its local puppets to engage in profitable war profiteering, but only as long as this does not interfere with the global US strategy,” he stressed.

Experts call attention to the fact that the shooting down of the Su-24 could have been Turkish President Erdogan’s “act of revenge,” given the fact that his family has reportedly been involved in Daesh’s oil smuggling business. In his recent interview with Radio Sputnik, Middle East analyst Stanislav Tarasov noted that “Erdogan’s family is directly involved in the incident,” and suggested that “we could soon learn that President Erdogan himself is directly linked to ISIL.”

But was the downing of the Su-24 bomber by the Turkish F-16 fighter a “lone wolf” operation or a preplanned action coordinated by NATO and Washington? If so, what goal does NATO/Washington have in mind?

“The downing of the SU-24 was definitely a major and carefully planned ambush operation which involved a large number of Turkish F-16 [being] constantly held on airborne alert positions. The notion that the Americans did not know about this all along is ridiculous,” The Saker elaborated.

Putin: Russia Has Evidence Su-24 Shot Down to Protect Daesh Oil Deliveries

“Make no mistake, this was an act of war by the USA and NATO, but executed in such a manner as to provide the real culprits some degree of plausible deniability. The hope was to have Russia over-react and trigger a direct confrontation which could be them blamed on Russia. You have to keep in mind that the Russian force in Syria is a very small one and that it is vulnerable. Even with 60+ combat aircraft and S-400s, the Russian force is much smaller than the Turkish air force, which has well over 200 F-16s. The USA is now using this vulnerability to provoke Russia,” the analyst told Sputnik.

The Saker noted that the Turks themselves had violated the Syrian and, especially, Greek airspace hundreds of times “and not just once for 17 seconds.” In the wake of the incident, Ankara suggested that the alleged intrusion of the Russian Su-24 into Turkish airspace had lasted a mere 17 seconds.

“The very fact that they actually used this “17 seconds” excuse it by itself is a clear provocation, designed to humiliate Russian and trigger an over-reaction. Thank God Putin and the Kremlin did not take this bait,” The Saker underscored.

Interestingly enough, the incident in Syrian airspace had been preceded by an act of sabotage in Ukraine: on November 20, unidentified saboteurs blew up the main power lines in Ukraine leading into Crimea; Crimean Tatar activists blocked access to fallen lines. Given the close ties between Ankara and Crimean Tatars (Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu is reportedly of Crimean Tatar descent himself), the question arises, whether the two action were connected in any way?

“I have no information showing any links, but what is clear is that Turkey is waging its own mini-war of influence against Russia, not only in Crimea, but also in the Caucasus and Central Asia,” The Saker told Sputnik, commenting on the issue.

Remarkably, in 2001, then-modest academic Dr. Ahmet Davutoglu published a book entitled “Strategic Depth.” In his book, Davutoglu suggested that Turkey possesses a unique “strategic depth” due to its historical and geographical position. The would-be Turkish prime minister argued that Turkey should simultaneously exercise its influence in the Middle East, the Balkan region, the Caucasus, and Central Asia as well in the Caspian, Mediterranean and Black Sea zones. According to Davutoglu, Turkey should re-establish its role as a global player, not just a regional power. In some sense, Davotoglu viewed the collapse of the Soviet Union as a historic chance for Turkey to expand its influence in the Caucasus region and Central Asia.

And here enters Daesh…

Given the fact that ISIL has been created and fuelled by a number of states and private donors, which geopolitical players are resisting Russia’s attempts to eradicate terrorism in the region and preserve the sovereignty of Syria? Is Russia confronting a bunch of terrorists fed by Saudi and Qatari sheikhs or some well-organized multi-national organizations?

“As for Daesh, it is simply one ‘weapon’ used by the [US] Empire to destroy its opponents. There is no such thing as ‘terrorism’ by itself, it is always a weapon used by one (or several) state actors,” The Saker explained.

“The sheikhs you mention are just pawns in the hands of the ‘deep state’ which runs the US Anglo-Zionist ‘Empire’ and they themselves only have a local influence. Thus, the Saudis or the Qatari are major players in Syria, but already at the Middle-Eastern level they are far less powerful than, say, the Turks or the Israelis. And while they can act as ‘private donors’ and sponsors of this or that faction of Daesh/al-Qaeda, they can only do that as long as the Americans tolerate that. One could say that the local sheikhs are influential or even powerful puppets, but they still remain fundamentally puppets,” the US military analyst told Sputnik.

However, he claims, this is only the tip of the iceberg; the situation in general is far more serious.

“What is taking place today is a world war between, on one hand, the so-called ‘West’ (the US Empire) and what I call the ‘Resistance’ i.e., Russia, China, the BRICS, the SCO countries, Latin America, etc. What is at stake here is the future of our planet: it will either be ruled by a single world Hegemon or it will be organized as a multi-polar world. The events in the Middle East are just one ‘front’ in this worldwide war, and the war in Syria just one “battle” in the Middle Eastern ‘front’,” The Saker concluded.

emmchi:
Deploring anti missile in syria does not stop the fact that Russia is all alone in this fight.America and his NATO allies still want Al Assad to go and there is not Russia can do about that.

lol.. It's easy to spot when you listened to too much CNN and copied what one Neocon paid analyst said and you decided to make Stup*d of your self by converting it to a comment and pasting it here.. it's so easy to spot where you got your idea from.. 110% from propagandized western media. They are obviously living in another world.. Not the same reality on ground.

Russia is all alone.. hahahahahahahaha...

Even lets even assume Russia is all alone. Russia all alone is capable and you saw that in Crimea, in Georgia. Now, Add Hezbollah, Iran and Syrian army to it.. Russia is not all alone sorry.. You have not even seen the Hezbollah fight before.. Highly professional fighters that don't shout alahu Akbar propaganda..


Those that are in support of America are mere vassals. You have them as the Anglozionist Empire ="What is AngloZionist Empire - That is the Union or coalition of Anglo America, Anglo Saxons, the Zionist Israel together with all their permanent puppets (all the countries in EU,Saudi Arabia, Japan, Turkey) and temporary puppets or proxies. Stooges, Saboteurs, Radio Biafra or the Biafran ideology, Wahhabi Boko Haram terrorist franchise, the current president of Ukraine can be refereed to as temporary puppets. "-https://www.nairaland.com/2737360/western-values-bane-present-day

mazeltov:
I fink Putin is the one that is toothless. I expected Russia to have wiped Turkey off the map as you and your followers proclaim!!

This kid is still talking here.. Kid go back to keyboard video game. I have replied your ideology in previous post. I don't need to type it again. Obviously, you are short of words and just being a sadist troll, a pro-aglozionist Empire. Go back and read my reply to your comment above. You keep spamming people with it..

Missy89:
#lies

Try again

You sha like to argue blindly... See it here.. https://www.nairaland.com/2768301/no-us-airstrikes-syria-since

Stop copying from western media if you want to find out the truth about the west itself..

fineguy11:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3354866/posts?page=1
http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/air-space/strike/2015/04/18/china-taiwan-russia-s400-air-defense-adiz-east-china-sea-yellow-sea/25810495/
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/s-400-triumph-air-defence-missile-system/
pls correct yourself,i never said the system has a reach of more than 400km,its maximun reach is 400km..u claimed it could be taken out,i still dare u,dig up any article online that details how or if this MONSTER can be taken out...im waiting..as for 5th generation craft,read this.http://www.airforce-technology.com/features/featurestealth-dilemma-debates-heats-up-over-f-35s-radar-evading-tech-4332950/
http://in.rbth.com/blogs/2015/03/11/how_russias_s-400_makes_the_f-35_obsolete_41895

You are arguing with this kid mazeltov: again ? S-400 will shoot down raptor and future fighter jets. It's designed to shoot down any flying objects.. The only thing it can't do is shoot down space object.. Now S-500 is being designed to shoot down any space object flying to its area of deployment.

Kid mazeltov:, learn again and be updated. Common sense really did not tell you the system that was used to shoot down U-2 that was flying to the stratosphere in 1960 is being instilled into the S-400. It will shoot anything down I repeat except space objects..

Get that stick into your dead brain cells again and again.

illitrate:
Wow so nato has figured out a way to do that. I just watched him on RT news saying that russia
violated the turkish air space so should not think of escalation.

He was asked by the interviewer if nato was aware that russian has deployed the s-400 and he answered
Nato was aware that russia has s-400 so that is nato's business.

Let him continue giving his vassals hope to see the pope.. This is what they know how to do best, he should remember Russia already changed its military doctrine long ago to attack NATO.. it now puts NATO as its direct foreign threat to Russia.

Appleyard:
You honestly expect Russia to declare war on Turkey because of one fighter jet? When Isreal did a bigger one by attacking an American war ship, the Liberty, that killed dozens and wounded many more, what did the US do? They didnt go to war. Rather, they tried to cover it.

Regarding Syria, the way Putin has handled the issue so far, is commendable, though it hasn't ruled out a retaliation in kind, and This much Turkey understands hence the suspension of all flights into Syria.

You are answering that kid playing with keyboard, especially playing those war video games that it managed to know a few arms ? When a child talks you will know by its first sentence.

DerideGull:
But Russia and Turkey had fought each other several times yet Turkey is standing. If Russia has no reason to attack Germany, it goes that Russia will have no reason to attack any other nation. Russia violated Turkey's airspace and its plane was downed period.

Continue praising terrorist. A caliphate Turkey that wants to re-instate its ottoman Empire. You are surely a terrorist but what vexes me the most is your likes will detest boko haram and still like Turkey or U.S.A, Israel, Saudi Arabia, UK and Qatar..

Hypocrites do not know birds of a feather flocks together.

seagulsntrawler:
Pure, unadulterated propaganda from al jazeera. I saw the video this morning and find it hard to get any clue about a market that was bombed. The whole thing appeared to have been stage managed.

What do you expect from the Qatari media to write ? The Grandchild of the father of Propaganda BBC.
It's not only the grandchild but also has its hands full of blood. Qatar is sponsoring the arm of terrorists in Syria to take Assad down. The Emir even recently threatened to start bombing Syrian Army.. Let him bomb and lets see nah..

Who is still watching this western mind controlling propaganda puppet network machines? Aljezera is just a puppet media and the grandchild of Propaganda.

Frankaka8:
After procuring a visa for a job offer at the States, few days to your flight schedule upon resumption, your son did this! what will be your next move?

Nothing ? Nothing special about American Visa... I prefer a terrorist free NATION. Meaning a nation that does not terrorize other nations or take other countries as vassals or puppet states.

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Russia is actually building an all-over air defense zone in Syria, according to Russian Zvezda TV channel. The Hmeymim air base, Russian jets and also pilots will be protected by the most advanced Russian weapons.


After a Turkish jet shot down a Russian Su-24 bomber over Syria, the Russian Defense Minister reported to President Vladimir Putin that the air defense system around the base needed to be enhanced.

The president said approved the move and 24 hours later an S-400 missile defense system was deployed to the Hmeymim base.

The S-400, an upgrade of the S-300 Growler family, is a new-generation anti-aircraft defense system operated solely by the Russian military. It knows no equals in the world, including the US-made Patriot system.

The S-400 ensures air defense using long- and medium-range missiles that can hit aerial targets at ranges of up to 400 kilometers. It is also can hit ground and sea targets.


The system is not only versatile but also very mobile. It has a mobile deployment time of 15 minutes, and a stand-by deployment time of only 15 seconds.
Meanwhile, the Russian Air Force task unit continues to carry out airstrikes against Islamic State (ISIL) positions in Syria. Russian jets are conducting up to 80 sorties a day.

Russia plans to build up its anti-ISIL offensive in Syria. New Su-27 and Su-30 jets are expected to be deployed to the Hmeymim base in the near future. Russian pilots will also be equipped with advanced electronic warfare devices.
- See more at: http://nigeriaproperty-real..com/2015/11/is-russia-building-up-air-defense.html#sthash.YWcEfLy4.dpuf
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Obiagu1:
Turkey will eventually apologize.

I still don't know why Turkey is in NATO.

The only reason and I think the main reason is Black-Sea.. if you check the black sea as we speak every country in is NATO colony. Putin knew exactly what they were aiming for when they tried to drag Ukraine into the same NATO zone. Crimean Penisular is no longer Ukraine, it has re-unified with Russia. This pained the Neocons like fire. Putin always touch them where it hurts the most.

Now the power in the Black-sea region is kind of balance. Forget Ukraine joining NATO, it will be all out war with Donbass and Luganks or even regime change in kiev just like in Georgia. They know this very well. Russia is capable.

The buffer zone for Ukraine entering NATO is Doneskt, Luganks and Crimean Penisular..

lets assume Washington's dream came through. (Meaning it took control of the black sea by dragging Ukraine into NATO and also the Crimean peninsular)
Then forget the south of Russia in the next 5 years. Sochi may fall in all out war with Russia.

The Russians know this very well and taking back Crimean peninsular was just the right card to play at the right time. And no one died during the referendum. Unlike the referendum that took place in the Donbass..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2TaZ3guyKQ

Watch another one bellow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8Rqihaj-Zc

tunex23:
stop saying trash, th guy was right! Russia troops were massively annihilated by the Germans Troops led by General Friedrich Paulus' 6th Army Division with General Hermann Hoth's 4th Division Panzer Army supporting to the south. After sweeping the Russians they brought in italian and Romanian troops to guard their flanks, that pave way for The Soviets to Strike Back. Mind you nobody said the Germans defeated the Soviets but he said the Soviets suffered high casualties more than the Germans

Continue listening to those changing history oh... Stop contradicting yourself. Russia killed the Nazis German that brought about the Berlin Wall.

Now, common sense won't be applied here.. If what you said was ok. How come the same Nazis German could not push or annihilate the Soviets out of Berlin ?

The the real fight took place in Stalingrad..

Mind you, it was a united west defeat for Russians. They fight till last man standing. Now that's is the spirit of fighting an enemy.

Why is the US Hanging Turkey Out to Dry?
By Andrew KORYBKO (USA)

Turkey’s shooting down of the Russian anti-ISIL aircraft was an unprecedentedly direct aggression against Moscow that trumps even the tense and hostile militarism of the Old Cold War era. The world stands on edge in the immediate aftermath of this attack, with tabloid-esque commentators warning that the beginning of World War III awaits. President Putin, for his part, has been much more measured in responding to the incident, but still couldn’t contain his shock at having received this “stab in the back delivered by accomplices of the terrorists.”


The question now comes down to how Russia will respond to what happened, but perhaps even more important for observers to ponder is why the US is unofficially distancing itself from its ally’s aggression. Despite both NATO and Obama giving full backing to Turkey’s fateful decision, Reuters has quoted an anonymous American military official that purposely leaked that the Russian plane was downed while over Syrian airspace, basing the assessment on heat signature detection. This raises questions about why the US is playing both sides of the fence – on one hand, publicly supporting Turkey, while on the other, strategically releasing information that conflicts with Turkey’s official depiction of events.


The Setup:

This dichotomy is suggestive of a Machiavellian plan whereby the US manipulates both Turkey and Russia into behaving according to what it has already forecast as their most likely responses, knowing full well that these could be guided into supporting grander American strategic interests. For starters, the US likely intimated to Erdogan that not only does he have the ‘legal’ right to shoot down any Russian aircraft he chooses, but that the US would actually prefer for him to take this course of action sooner than later. This is reminiscently similar to how the US put Sakkashvili up to bombing Tskhinval and invading South Ossetia – it may not have directly issued an official, on-paper order for this to occur, but it left no ambiguity as to how it wanted its proxy to act in each situation.


According To Plan:

For the most part, this explains the public pronouncements of NATO and the US’ support for Turkey’s actions, and it also goes a long way in soothing Erdogan’s nerves and reassuring him that he did the right thing. The predicted aftereffect of the plane’s downing was an immediate deterioration of Russian-Turkish relations, with the full consequences potentially affecting the diplomatic, military, economic, and energy spheres. Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov cancelled his upcoming trip to Turkey and advised Russian tourists to refrain from visiting the country due to the terrorism level being similar to Egypt’s. Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev has spoken about the possibility of barring Turkish companies from the Russian market and cancelling planned nuclear and gas projects with the country.


All of these prospective actions are fully justifiable and grounded in the self-respect that Russia feels in not aiding what has proven itself to be a militantly hostile state no matter the economic stakes involved, but at the same time, one can’t help but wonder whether this is exactly what the US wanted. There’s no doubt that Russia would react this way, as even a cursory glance of its potential ‘response toolkit’ indicates that these are the most likely to be taken amidst any deterioration of relations. Therefore, it can’t be discounted that the US put Erdogan up to shooting down the Russian jet precisely to provoke the predictable Russian response in threatening to cancel its forthcoming energy projects with Turkey, the core of the strategic partnership between the two. If this is the case, and it certainly seems likely, then it shows exactly how far the US is willing to go to make sure that Russian energy (and subsequently, all of the soft power and multipolar advantages that come with it) doesn’t enter the Balkans through the Turkish Stream megaproject, likely because it understands the transformative impact that this would eventually have on the entire region.


The Curveball:

Thus far, everything seems reasonable and well within the realm of predictability, but the curveball comes with the Reuters revelation that an unnamed American military source is essentially saying that the Russian position is justified. Unexpectedly, it now seems as though the US is also playing to Russia’s side to an extent, and this raises questions about what it really wants. After all, it’s been proven beyond any doubt that American-supplied TOW anti-tank missiles were used to down the Russian rescue helicopter that attempted to retrieve the two pilots. With this indisputable evidence of indirect American aggression against Russia, it certainly is a curious fact that the US establishment would purposely leak a statement saying that the Turkey downed the Russian plane in Syrian airspace, and basically take Russia’s side on this behind the scenes.


Playing The Kurdish Card:

Explaining this diplomatic twist requires knowledge about the popular response that Russian citizens and global supporters worldwide are requesting to Turkey’s aggression. They quite reasonably propose that Russia intensify its arms shipments to anti-ISIL Kurdish fighters, with the wink-and-a-nod approval that some of them would be siphoned off to the PKK and be used against the Turkish military. This is an effective and pragmatic plan, and in reality, it actually doesn’t even require a policy shift from Moscow because support is already being rendered to some Kurdish groups as part of their joint cooperation in the anti-ISIL struggle. The Kurdish Insurgency hasn’t gone away since Erdogan unwittingly unearthed it this summer as an electioneering tool, and the fact that it’s still going strong even after the elections has scared him so much that he might have been the one who ordered the recent assassination attempt against pro-Kurdish HDP co-chairman Selahattin Demirtas. Thus, if Russia chooses to inflict an asymmetrical response to Turkey by beefing up its indirect support for the PKK and other Turkish-based anti-government Kurds or disrupting Blue Stream gas supplies in order to provoke an intensified rebellion, then it could certainly inflict a heavy amount of strategic damage to Erdogan and increase the likelihood either of a military coup in Turkey (explained more in detail as part of a different article accessible here) and/or the creation of an independent Kurdistan.


That being said, the US has traditionally been the out-of-regional power that has the greatest interest in Kurdistan, seeing the possible state as a ‘geopolitical Israel’ from which it can simultaneously exert influence on the rump portions of Turkey, Iran, Iraq, and Syria. The strategic trajectory of a theorized Kurdish state has been complicated by the anti-ISIL campaign, however, since many Kurds have shown themselves to be pragmatic in cooperating with Russia and Iran against this shared threat. The positive multipolar cooperation that each of these countries has engaged in with the Kurds challenges the US’ planned hegemony over them and their territory, and it thus means that any forthcoming independent Kurdish political entity could theoretically go either towards the multipolar or the unipolar camps. At this point in time, and given all of the dynamic military and diplomatic developments of the past couple of months, the loyalty of a future Kurdish state (no matter if its boundaries are confined only to present-day Turkey and/or Iraq) is totally up for grabs, and it’s impossible to accurately forecast which way it will go.
Kurdish women’ ‘Peshmerga’ batallions cause horror among ISIS gangs in Syria.


Kurdish women’ ‘Peshmerga’ batallions cause horror among ISIS gangs in Syria.

The strategic ambiguity that this entails means a few things to the US and Russia. For the US, it indicates that the time is now for it to bunker down and support Kurdistan’s independence before it loses the strategic initiative to Russia, which might be moving in this direction (whether formally or informally) out of grand geopolitical spite for Turkey. Moscow, as was just mentioned, seems inclined to hit Ankara where it hurts most, and that’s through supporting the Kurdish Insurgency in one way or another. However, it’s not yet known how far this would go, and whether Russia would pursue this strategy as a form of short-term vengeance or if it would resolutely go as far in recognizing Kurdish Independence if it could ever be de-facto actualized. Of course, Russia wouldn’t do anything that could endanger the territorial integrity of its Syrian, Iraqi, and Iranian allies, but if the Turkish-based Kurds contained their ambitions solely within the borders of Russia’s historical rival, then it might be able to rectify itself with this reality, especially if they even refrain from legal independence and instead seek a sort of broadly de-facto independent federative or autonomous status within a unified Turkey (which could only realistically be brought about by an intensified insurgency and/or a coup in Ankara).


Joining Hands For Kurdistan:

Having explained all of this, it’s now clear that a remarkable convergence of strategic interests has developed between the US and Russia focusing on Turkish-administered Kurdistan. Understanding the changing calculations that Russia may now be having towards this topic as a response to Turkey’s aggression against it, one can’t necessarily preclude the possibility that the Reuters leak was actually a strategic overture to Russia. Washington might be sending a signal that it wants to speak to Moscow about ways to cooperate in this regard, knowing that each of them possibly have an interest now in seeing the proto-state rise to the fore of the global arena. A shared understanding has likely developed by now that a New Cold War competition for Kurdistan’s loyalty could be fought after the entity is legally formalized (whether as an independent state or a de-facto independent sub-state entity modeled off of the Kurdish Regional Government in Iraq), and that the two Great Powers need to put aside some of their differences in joining hands to see this happen first.


Such a strong signal could have been discretely and secretly communicated to Russia via secure diplomatic and intelligence channels, but the reason it was so publicly broadcast via Reuters, the global newswire service, is because the US also wants to send a signal to Turkey as well. Despite taking its side on the matter before the global eye, the US is also “stabbing its ally in the back”, to channel President Putin, by purposely leaking the information that the Russian jet was shot down over Syrian airspace. It’s not news that the US has been unhappy with Erdogan for not behaving more submissively in the past and refusing to blindly go along with the previous plans to invade Syria (rendered useless after Russia’s anti-terrorist military intervention there), so it might be trying to convey the message it’s had enough of his games and is now playing their own in return. Of course, the US has always been manipulating Turkey ever since it joined NATO and allowed the Americans to operate out of Incirlik airbase, but this time, the treachery is being taken to a higher level by implicitly throwing out suggestions to Russia, Turkey’s new foe (and only because the US manipulated Turkey into taking aggressive action against it), that it might want to team up in undermining Ankara’s control over its volatile southeast.


Concluding Thoughts:

It can safely be assumed that the US influenced Turkey into shooting down the Russian jet over Syrian airspace, predicting quite accurately that this would immediately lead to the deterioration of ties between the two states. An elementary forecast of the specific counter-measures that Russia may take stipulates that these will likely relate to the diplomatic, economic, and energy sectors, which is just what the US wants. Because of Turkey’s aggression against Russia, the strategic partnership between the two is now broken (although not necessarily irreversibly), and Ankara has become the fourth and perhaps most geopolitically significant member of the anti-Russian Intermarum coalition. Furthermore, Turkish Stream looks to be indefinitely put on hold, thus delaying Russia’s game-changing pivot to the Balkans. While the ‘unintended’ consequence of the crisis has been Russia’s foreseeable and absolutely legitimate decision to deploy the S-400 SAM system to Syria, this in a way also plays to the manipulated Turkish-Russian rivalry that the US wanted to produce in order to solidify the completion of the Intermarum project and simultaneously counter Russia’s growing influence in the Mideast.


The reaction that no one could have predicted, however, is the US purposely leaking comments to Reuters that support the Russian version of events, namely, that the anti-terrorist jet was shot down while flying over Syrian airspace. This completely conflicts with what the US and NATO have said in public, but it shows that the US has had enough time to game out the plane-shooting scenario well in advance, and that it’s playing a sinister divide-and-conquer game against Turkey and Russia. Put in the position where its decision makers are scrambling for responses to the unprecedented aggression against them, Russia can now more easily be led into supporting the Kurdish struggle for sovereignty (whether formally independent or de-facto so) in Turkey, which coincides with one of the US’ premier geopolitical projects.

From an American perspective, a divided Turkey is doubly useful for its grand strategic designs, as the large pro-NATO Turkish military would remain mostly intact, while the US could gain a major base for force projection (both hard and soft) right in between some of the most important states in the region. It can’t, however, go fully forward with this project unless it has the support of the diplomatic leader of the multipolar world, Russia, otherwise Kurdistan will be just as illegitimate as Kosovo is and might not even come to geopolitical fruition if Moscow and Tehran work to stop it.


Seen from the Russian standpoint, the US’ intimations actually seen quite attractive. An increase of Russian support to anti-ISIL Kurdish fighters would be a plausibly deniable but strategically obvious way to funnel weapons and equipment to anti-Turkish PKK insurgents. Weakening Turkey from within would be a strong asymmetrical response to a country that has lately been a major thorn in Moscow’s side, and it might create the conditions either for a military coup against Erdogan, a divide between him and Davutoglu (which could be used to Russia’s diplomatic advantage so long as the constitution remains unchanged and Davutoglu legally remains more powerful than Erdogan), or a weakening of Erdogan and a tempering of his anti-Russian and anti-Syrian positions.


Importantly, the emergence of an independent or semi-independent Kurdish entity in Turkey could create a tempting piece of geopolitical real estate in the New Cold War, but of course, it would then be contested between the multipolar and unipolar worlds. Still, however, it would represent a positive multipolar development in the Mideast, since under the present state of affairs, the entirety of Turkish territory is under unipolar control. If a large chunk of it suddenly became the object of competition between both blocs, then it would definitely signify a strategic advancement at the expense of unipolarity. Of equal importance, this would also significantly impact on the Turkish state and whatever government is in power by that time, and it could possibly make it more amenable to returning to the previously pragmatic relationship with Russia and perhaps even resurrecting Turkish Stream.


Therefore, Russia surprisingly has nothing to do lose and everything to gain by covertly supporting the Kurdish cause in Turkey, no matter if it’s full-out independence or relatively more restrained autonomy, and even if this is objective is shared by the US and done in semi-coordination with it. Turkey would immediately be put on the defensive (although it could try desperately responding by supporting Tatar terrorists in Crimea), the multipolar world have a chance at competing for the loyalty of an ultra-strategically positioned entity, and the consequences that this has for the Turkish government (whether it remains the same or is changed via a [military] coup) could recreate the political conditions for Turkish Stream’s feasibility.