₦airaland Forum

Europeans and the west, like the Romans, are at the end of a sequence of events that indicates their era in the light is at an end.

Look at what's happening to them and compare it to what happened to the Roman Empire when it began to fail - overfeed homosexuals, lacking discipline, constantly waging unreasonable wars, with no moral compass and excusing everything as permissible under the guise of running a republican democracy and individual freedom! Rubbish!!! and their society like a stupid permissive parent is saying it's a child's right if all he wants to eat is sweets!! They are lost!!

I know of no major religion that does not condemn this completely unnatural act. gays do not seem to realize that they would not have come into existence if their parents did not follow the natural course of things.

Are u actually serious?

Sefaso, you penis is really big compared to a  Lips sealed

That isnt penis envy- I created that word mate so becareful how u use it- but the basic logic is that it is when you make an argument that cannot be won because it is impossible to create qualitative judgement or standard for the correct answer. Also verification is impossible- like u claiming what you are not online or Like someone saying- my penis is bigger than yours- how can you argue against him- tell him to drop out his pants and bring a ruler  . I am not referring to the Freudian term if that is what you are thinking.

My school has a substantial amount of royalty that is a well known and proven fact. We also got some of Donald's trumps children. Guy is really stupid wasting his time sending his kids to substandard average schools. I am proud of my school despite its mediocrity- I think you should refrain from insulting it, my love stems from the great friendships I made there and the brilliant people I encountered both gay and straight. One day, I would fight homosexual ignorance in third world countries, I am just using u as a stepping stone (or should i say stepping foam)

academics are mostly liberal

I have to say, this is the funniest statement coming from you. I wish it were true, for personal reasons, but sadly it is not. Academics are rarely socially liberal maybe fiscally, but then u prolly dont know the diff

Note: I am entitled to say that due to my proven track record.

Er, right believe what you want, lol- as i said i know what i need to know, I just dont post it on the internet. I had done my research sometime ago. You keep insulting my skul while forgetting that people like you are a dime in a dozen in my substandard school. If you think working in IB as a strategy analyst- then u shuld comeover here and I would show you the number of strategy analyst I have interacted with and went to my school at every major IB in the US. Goldman Sachs recruiters are a dime in a dozen adn managers come for talks regularly. So I dont have time for you, when I interact with kennedys and royalty, it is one of their workers, I want to fight with. By the way  abeg, learn quickly mate, I am about to finish my school, i have no ties to it.

so you spent like 2 years max in a bank and u are actually running your mouth- man I cant believe this- like seriously. So u are no different from the last year students I met, when I was a first year,who are prolly now in business school while you are on NL yarning crap ,

As i said little man- wallow in your ignorance the heat isnt on yet- you are just screaming nonsense. And doing what i really wanted you to do like a puppet. Did einstein film relativity, can we see and  experience relativity in our every day lives, And most importnatly, can the human brain perceive relativity. the answers for this are No- But does that mean relativity is a lie? Roll on with the ignorance- it gets more interesting. I laugh at fools especially those who know not 

Media and academia are different- u are so funny, i can never cease to laugh. The media is liberal but academia is, and would always remain extremely conservative. Trying to explain something to an idiot is difficult- it is like see see, and the idiot is like what what? Any scientist who claims anything against homosexuality does so at his peril- so why gamble with lies?

You are really a pathetic, moronic child.

back to what you are good at.

I had gentle advised, encouraged and warned you to calm down and tone down your nauseous arrogance but you refused to listen and even turned it higher and towards me, so you get your smacking now because might be above average but you are not in my league.

chimps can say what they want online- that does not suggest validity.

I can't stop you from posting or being stupid, so I justs throw disdain and put-downs when appropraitely time at a boastful little cunt like yourself. You can't get it and see the reason to change and develop yourself but wants to keep comparing himself to someone more talented and with an achievement track record.

you are nigerian mate. stop running your mouth around, your so-called talented track record is your opinion. You prolly dont have any and if you do I dont want to know and i dont give a mess about it- it is all in your head- and I dont do penis envy especially with people online. I know what i need to know about u- I had already done the same trick  u did to me, a long time ago. I am just not posting anything because i have decorum- something u lack excessively.

I accept your  opinion you are better than me- mine is that you are dumber than a goat and that is at a stretch. Try and get on my plane mate.

Achievement is not performing poorly in SAT at first

u are funny, so funny. like everytime i read I wonder hw nasty and stupid you are. To make matters worse, this isn't an insult to make u angry online it is just true.

And incestors or polygamous people can not be in love? slowpoke. Georgetown University quality.

love is different from lust- could i please talk to someone intelligent- pleaaaaaaase Nairaland, I am done with sagamite. Chimps suck at arguing

By the way I know what you are up to, I knew a very long time ago so stop bothering with games and tricks. I think u are going way too far though, farther than i would expect someone with a sense of honor and respect to go- but that is Nigerians for you. I am just worried about how horrible your character must be in person.  And we still wonder why we are the third world when we have no ability for decorum, and were brilliance is only measured by how much you can insult people and not the strength of your intellect.

Continuing wallowing in ignorance mate. You will die an ignorant baseless fool who does not consider the moral value of his judgements- I am shocked at your age and your inflated ego (unwarranted from the waa you talk) you never evaluated your values and why you hold them- what makes you better than the homosexual who doesn't want anything in life but to love someone who is  the same sex with him- while you are intent on to supposedly disparage me- why should actions like yours meant to hurt people and malicious not illegal while unspiteful actions like homosexuality are illegal. When you reach the same sensitivity that I have reached- and profound understanding of your fellow man  then I repeat, we might be able to talk on a similar plane albeit a very slanted plane.

Dalu nu

And the detailed research you buy is the one that a Phd shows you of two animals rubbing their heads together and says they are "kissing", and you say it must be true because as a Phd holder their reputation is on the line.

I never buy documentaries- but i buy papers and detailed research, as i mentioned u are the one who needs to see documentaries to understand mate. papers in reputable in journals are more than enough. If a biologist spends 5 years studying the lives of animals and says they are homosexual he does so at his own peril if he is wrong-- he would be disgraced if they found out he fudged data. A major disgrace, that he would not be hired by any institution- why is this so hard for u to understand, like have you ever interacted with ppl in academia?

probably not

Some will argue that most homosexuals are naturally born with such instincts, well even paedophiles can put up that argument, and even various psychologist still put forward theories that people with a particular body structure are born to be violent. So should we legalize paedophilia? Should we legalize violence then?

never heard about the violence part- but I have heard about the pedophilia and psychology argument. The link is still weak- pedophilia is wrong because it violates a child who is nonconsenting- so it is the same as rape. And why do we have an age of consent- well to protect children. Yes, human are a product of their chemicals- we are no different from animals no matter how much we put ourselves on a pedestal. Some ppl have a strong control of their instincts and  also fit the norm- some people are womanizers (shouldn't this be illegal), and alcoholics ( people who actually cause harm to society)- while some are chaste. In our society- we must learn to be inclusive and understand ourselves. I think we have a draw a line/distinction between what is morally right and wrong. Does homosexuality lie in the bad/good?

This predestination thing is propounded by scientists whose sexual orientation is still in doubt. Scientists who would do anything to justify their kind. It all is madness.

U are beginning to sound like sagamite albeit a smarter version. Yes, it is possible that some scientist who do these studies are gay but a significant number of them are not. I could decide to do so for the pure desire of science- am i gay- no; do I have any typically sexual behavior- at my present state no. So, if i decide to publish a study, I am sure some ppl would call be a homosexual because of my pursuit of the truth. Scientist, rarely publish lies that are not financially beneficial. Even gay scientist know that their peers who are heterosexual would vigorously attack their research because they have more to prove.

Homosexuality, lesbianism or bisexualism is unnatural because naturally, sex is supposed to ultimately yield offspring. Sometimes heterosexual sex may not lead to multiplication, but never has it been heard that homosexual sex led yielded progeny. Never!

Er we are not talking about reproduction here, so sex between a woman past her menopause is unnatural. Never use the word natural as a buffer for any argument because it is very relative.

Like I said before, legalizing homosexuality in Nigeria will take the majority of citizens through their representatives voting for. Do we really have a population in which two thirds supports the freedom of citizens to turn gay. Maybe a survey of your locality will produce adequate evidence required.

very good point- homosexuality would prolly never be legal in nigeria, but so is a developed nigeria as a world power ever a likelihood.

Homosexuality is not our priority. Personally, I believe anti-homosexuality is a priority which should be the third point agenda after Power Generation and the Niger Delta question.

u contradicted urself. Homosexuality shuldnt but should be a major agenda? It should be a third point when a significant number of our population lives below the poverty line?

, Degrades human dignity. It's unnatural and there is no question ever of allowing these people to behave worse than dogs and pigs. If dogs and pigs do not do it, why must human beings? We have our own culture, and we must re-dedicate ourselves to our traditional values that make us human beings, What we are being persuaded to accept is sub-animal behaviour and we will never allow it here. If you see people parading themselves as lesbians and gays, arrest them and hand them over to the police

This is mad man mugu Mugabe's statement about homosexuality (instead on focusing on the 1 billion% inflation rate of his country). Notice he used the word parade themselves, its quite universal knowledge that there are a significant amount of homosexuals in the human population, the only reason we dont see them is that they are scared of the repercussions of doing so.

I was talking to a classmate a week ago, and asked him about his opinion that homosexuals are born gay. And he told me that his neighbors are gay (man is homosexual, and woman is a lesbian) but were born during a time when sodomy/homosexuality was illegal. they married each other to protect themselves and for procreational purposes had sex like normal people. Interestingly all their kids are gay. i would have to distinguish between cause and effect here, that is were the children gay because of genetics or because of environmental purposes (being in close proximity to gay individuals). But my friend told me that these children did not know that their parents were gay and were even scared about telling their parents about their choice---I never buy arguments, until there is detailed study, but I would never prejudge until proof comes out- and yes sagamite by PhDs, not some poster on the internet with little or no knowledge . Homosexuality should not be a part of our law until it is proven unnatural/harmful to our society.

The man has no sexual attraction whatsoever for a woman or man. The goat is an adult goat and shows that it enjoys sex with the man too. The man was born being sexually attracted to animals. He has tried sex with humans without satisfaction. Are such men or women allowed by law in the US and Europe to marry animals as part of their rights? This is no joke. Pls no name-calling on this - I need honest answers.

Bestiality is illegal i think- so is anal sex and MouthAction- i think, in the american constitution/ whatever law they use in the UK. Sodomy laws/gross indecency/buggery were first inaugurated in the UK around 1533 and also in the US later on. However these laws have been repealed in developed countries after significant debate (intellectual debate not chimp debates). Similarly interracial sex was considered by the majority of whites as unnatural and disgusting and several laws have been put in place to prevent it.

The interesting thing about these laws is that they are never enforced-even in Nigeria where everyone is shouting bloody mary-the answer is obvious and i am not going to spell it out to you. The same way that marijuana is legal in the Netherlands, and illegal in America- but half the kids in college have use marijuana regularly; even Obama admitted to doing so, and Bush as well as Clinton claimed to be doing so while he was at university. l

yeah bestiality involves two consenting adults.

that was a cheeky response. But really bestiality vs. homosexuality---this is quite a leap of logic. The extrapolation doesn't even make sense. Comparing it to pedophilia- which violates reasoning (i dont know about the nature aspect), then i know the caliber of people i am interacting with

big no.

pourquoi?

If a man was born hating sexual relationship with human beings with a passion but only attracted sexually to an animal like a goat, should he be allowed to legally marry the goat since his sexual orientation disturbs nobody? What more, the goat does not complain.

Your statement violates the standard law of nature itself. Cross-species interbreeding which in its own is inimical to human society. Homosexuality- at the rate the world population is exploding is not. Infact, from a biological point of view, homosexuality is quite welcome. It might seems weird, but i dont go by my instincts, I go with my brain. It is illegal- a man and a goat because they are different species. Homosexual people are the same species. Consider your statement, using relativity- bestiality is significantly deviant sexual behavior, homosexuality is also maybe a deviation-but how significant is the deviation. I dont want to be vulgar, incase other children are reading- but consider letme show you the problem with your statement-using other sexual behavior like anal sex- yes a big deviation and prolly disgusting to some ppl- but shuld it be illegal. No, well but if it isnt illegal why not bestiality- same logic u are using.

Also cross-species sex is very very bad, because viruses can jump species. Totally very different.

yadadada I was attacking your opinion mate, u started on the same thing again-mentioning stupid irrelevant stuff.  Anyways, my problem is that u cant follow minimal logic rules so hw will u understand.

The boy reminds me of a character in one of my favourite TV programmes: Mad Men.

He reminds me of the character Pete Campbell. Young, brash, ambitious and extremely irritating as he values himself above his worth (he is slghtly above mediocre) whilst there are other junior guys in the office that are better than him in both the work done and manners. Yet he feels he deserves to be seen as a rising star and the exceptional one of the bunch.

So I treat this fool Sefaso like the main character, Don Draper, treats the silly, annoying little cunt (after advising him to calm down and learn) that compares his limited abilities to Don's exceptional ones. That is, with a lot of disdain and put down.

Obviously Pete is too dumb and stubborn to calm down and learn from Don or his put downs and gets himself into silly pickles frequently as he constantly tries to show "me too, me too".

yadayadayada. Sagamu logic.

It is quite moronic and naive to think some people do not just try sex with whatever and call themselves trisexuals. I guess that is the genius opinion of Georgetown.

retard comment again, when will you try at least once to be intelligent, like try abeg it is not that hard. You try stupidly, you argue idiotically, your response reeks of childish intents. You mention stuff irrelevant to address my arguments- trying to put me down as you say, while just giving me a fuel of confidence, because I have finally concluded I am arguing with a chimp.  My question  to you was left unaddressed (as usual) about homosexuality. Then you keep insulting my so-called mediocre university as if i actually care about your obviously irrelevant and ignorant opinion. And you keep disgracing yourself continuously as a pugnacious bastard with no ability to reason above the level of an animal.

Additionally, you display your homophobia- a phobia that is unjustified and just as instinctive as an animals desire for food. You cannot justify your beliefs with an atom of logic- and then you resort to roforofo fight. You will see how far your phobia would carry you in this world of globalisation. It would be really ironic when your bosses in the UK are gay- because there is nothing you can do but kiss their asses. You need them so you can put food on the table.  Then at the end of the night like a bloody coward you vent out your frustrations about homosexuality on the internet to a group of people who are just as ignorant as you are.

Don't even try me. You are, and will always be, below my level of intelligence. You haven't proven otherwise. I dont want to know who u are, I have already judged you on the content of your character. When you finally evolve the ability to consider well-reasoned arguments about homosexuality and not your instinctive repulsion of homosexuality- like a chimp's instinctive response for bananas, then you can converse with me on a similar plane albeit a very slanted plane.

A big blow to the right wing critics/cynics

Not really, i dont think so. It is very likely that Obama is winning a second term-he hasnt being able to do much in America, the nobel prize is not going to save him. Also, a lot of Americans including left/right wing are arguing that Obama doesnt deserve  it and it has political connotations.  I think it came at the wrong time.

yeah, i dont knw if i mentioned this in my previous posts, but usually it is a good idea to contact professors especially if you are planning to do a PhD, I dont how helpful it would be for an Meng student though. yeah after thought, not helpful for Meng.

what I hate is homosexual acts and the accompanying insult to my intelligence of the logic their advocates use to justify it and propose its acceptance

IMO, I think the advocates logic is way past the intelligence of most people, so they find it difficult to understand what they can perceive. Its like mathematical modeling, most ppl dont get it; the majority think its rubbish and illogical, while the mathematician understands its beauty and perceives its flaws. What i really dislike is homophobes, who find it difficult to to examine their beliefs critically.   

It is also interesting how, homophobes cannot present what reason why they consider homosexuality unnatural. Most can't define unnatural except with the expression of disgust. Most people cant see that is ethically wrong to discriminate against people for their sexual orientation. Also, they can't see that laws are made to protect people.

And most importantly Never judge except you are in the persons shoes. Talk to a gay person, and ask them how they became one- u wuld find out that what you think about gay ppl are misconceptions. i have considered people's opinion about homosexuality, and consider it justified, as long as the people are of low reasoning ability, i find it difficult however, to find a critical thinker who considers homosexuality morally wrong. Homosexuality is not a choice, because if it was, I doubt people would be homosexual by choice---why? How many heterosexuals would consider changing to homosexuality-of course no one. That's how your body was made- you like the opposite sex; so why shouldn't gay people get their rights.

thats the way to go! Morale High my brother

I think it is my sister.

rethought, still no problem with homosexuality except that ppl get offended by it. Please tell me the consequences, i might be blind

man marrying more than one wife?

A man marrying more than one wife is illegal because of the[i] consequences[/i] of doing so in society. Bigamy/polygamy causes a lot of problems, and I dont need to outline them- they are pretty obvious, now what is the consequence of homosexuality? of course apart from going to hell, which no one has ever been to anyways so why not take the risk 

I am not arguing for its legality, I am questioning why it is an issue, its not an issue so it shouldn't be illegal. Your question is like asking "why should walking be legal". Walking is not an issue that causes harm so its legality should not be questioned. Legalizing homosexuality is totally different from legalizing homosexual marriage. very very different

You will not even see a male dog dogging another male dog.

other animals do it though. But that is not the point of legality mate. Why should it be banned, is it harmful to society. You make laws to protect society, so what is the menace about homosexuality. If you can give me at least one very well researched fact that homosexuals cause harm to society then i wuld eat my words

then u dont't know if "God" has a thing against homosexuals. If you use the bible, then u could also say God has a thing against non-jewish ppl

I know the standard of God based on what the bible says, and as well as based on what we know it is right

What human hubris. How can you know what is right and what is wrong. If you do then u claim u are a god which u are not.

we are a third-world backwards cesspool of ignorance country- of course homosexuality should not be legalized . It shuld be penalized.

I know case western gives scholarships. Do some research. I mighthave applied for MEMs too, since they are very useful for business and consulting side of engineering. For the nigerian oil industry, i don't think it is that useful---it is more suited for the needs of american companies. If you plan to work in naija, roll over to MS chemical engineering or do both, MS in chemical and then MEMS and companies would hire u

The Masters of Science in Engineering, Engineering Management Program at University of Texas at Austin
The Master of Engineering Management Program at Penn State housed within the Engineering Division of the School of Graduate Professional Studies
The George Washington University's Engineering Management and Systems Engineering Program
Carnegie Mellon's Engineering & Technology Innovation Management Program
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Cornell
Duke
stanford
Northwestern are the best


These are all the MEM programs

I actually know some info abt MEM programs---however, it is impossible to get funds for them. I know of only 1 school (i have done some research on this program, because i wanted to do it too) that gives funds for this program, but i cant remember its name rite now. I know however that duke has one of the best, but u have to finance urself.

http://memp.pratt.duke.edu/

http://memp.pratt.duke.edu/tuition-and-financial-aid

ok, then i am wrong, , to be sincere, i dont knw what nipost is up to these days

dont forget naija mail- personal experience

I havnt forgotten u, it is school, I am struggling with. I would email you stuff, soon---but funding scenario at MIT is great for PhD and close to 0 for MSc.

I dont know about the GRE, but when i took the SATs, it took close to a month and a half, are u curious about ur analytical scores? I never got my paper copy, even though I am in the US, , I had to call them and pay 12 bucks.

are some people still taking weed  Huh

I am right now  , sorry I can't pass you a joint online