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SEFAGO, you should also understand that success varies. People view certain things as success depending on their life experiences.
   For someone who has always been extremely smart, making a B would not be celebrated or seen as a success. But someone who's had D or F averages for so long will see getting a B as a success.

Don't give me that "Chinua Achebe is excellence" talk. Yeah, he excelled in literature but what does have to do with me? lol. I'm sure Chinua can't fly a plane as that isn't his field. Excellence shouldn't be measured by one variable alone. If I achieve something that was previously unattainable, then it's a freaking success to me.

brilliant point chiogo, so by Nigerian standards the mexican guy did marvelously well. Congrat to the guy. And the guy who made 500 naira since he started selling pure water, but made his first 1000 naira one day is a freaking success  .


Ok if you didn't see the sarcasm  , but excellence has only two charcateristics, "significant and difficult to achieve," the unattainable to someone is called personal success (like the example I gave you above)

Regardless, I am always very happy when Nigerians do well, I just feel we should have higher standards a bit. I know everything I say would be attacked, but my reasons are justified; the way I say it maybe brash and caustic.

By the way, Chinua Achebe is prolly the most famous african, from my experience, and i am not ibo so no bias. I also proudly boast of Okonjo iweala even if no one has heard of her.

These politicians have no shortage of evidence that America’s poor educational performance is weakening its economy. A recent report from McKinsey, a management consultancy, argues that the lagging performance of the country’s school pupils, particularly its poor and minority children, has wreaked more devastation on the economy than the current recession.

God punish mckinsey, as if the poor performance is the children's fault

just learn to quantify your personal experience instead of generalizing, thats all.

As I said, think what you want, doesn't really matter, the truth remains the truth no matter what

non-excellence is you, you mean.

yeah, think what you want

Abi, thank God i was not born in October. Catastrophic month.

God punish your mouth

19th, 19ths can call 08087656503

19th here too mate,

I am actually inteersted in slave narratives, very interesting topic---> never knew the igbo (or ppl around that area) kept slaves, i thot it was a yoruba and hausa things.

A Bsc is just a piece of paper!! It is the knowledge that matters!
Because a Phd involves a lot of research, he would naturally have to cover much of whatever was learned at Bsc level, where neccesary.
It's not the paper man, its the knowledge that counts.

Agreed.

It is called reincarnation , we Africans figured it out a long time, ago, oyinbo people are slow.

Phd holder in Political Economics is miles ahead in terms of expert knowledge in economics than an upstart with a Bsc in Economics

errr, depends on what field of economics. A political economist (regardless of Phd) would be clueless about certain aspects of economics that a Bsc learnt.

wouldn't someone with a degree in political economics and someone with a degree in "classical" economics have different specializations? The two shouldn't be compared.

yeah, it would be like comparing oranges and tangerines. Similar shape and color outside, different depths and substance inside. People with political economy degrees take less economic classes in general. I have to say, I have heard the guy talk a lot, and seen him on tv, but he sounded so intelligent that I never bothered with knowing what his degrees were.

Ok, I do  , your business, agreed I sound like one.  Continue with the misinformation. I don't have a life too, because i sound like one

And relax mate, I am just feeling touchy today, not you, it is the cold weather in America

he registered at Harvard without any degree, yet. You are not required to register at harvard with a degree- he was planning to go to law school after he finished his undergraduate . He dropped out before he had a concentration so we really don't know what he was planning to study in undergraduate. He could have taken a significant amount of classes while studying computer science.

My main concern is that you are suggesting he never knew anything about computers or studied them, that he was doing law, but he never actually registered to study law.  Harvard doesn't have a law program for undergraduates, I repeat check your facts, read them analytically, and then comeback. Yes, I sound like an idiot if that is what you think. your opinion. Just post facts, not subjective data.

Don't get angry when you get corrected, next time you wouldn't misinform people, making the world a better place

Although Gates was interested in computers, he enrolled at Harvard University with the intention of becoming a lawyer like his father. By the time he was a sophomore in 1975, however, Gates was more interested in computers and electronics than in his pre-law studies.

http://www.answers.com/topic/bill-gates

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He enrolled at Harvard University in the fall, originally thinking of a career in law. But his freshman year saw him spend more of his time in the computer lab than in class.

http://www.biography.com/articles/Bill-Gates-9307520?print

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When Gates was found out, he was severely punished, and he kept away from computers for his entire junior year at Lakeside. Without the lure of computers, Gates made plans for college and law school in 1970. But by 1971 he was back helping Allen write a class scheduling program for their school's computer.

http://www.notablebiographies.com/Fi-Gi/Gates-Bill.html

Ignorance parade again. And again  . He isn't a law school dropout. You have to finish college, b4 u start law school in the US, Bill Gates was considering a career in law, after he finished college, considering a career in law and going to law school are two different things. A secondary school student who wants to be a lawyer, and decides not to is he a law school dropout? Check your facts, read them analytically then come back.

Bill Gates is a[i] drop out law student[/i]. How many computer science grads can argue with him about algorithms or low level computing?

This is what you said about Bill Gates, which isn't true. I am not obssessed with semantics but this is passing wrong info to people who would repeat the same thing to their friends. And Yes many computer science can argue with him about computer algorithms. He is a businessman now and his knowledge of computers is not at the level it was when he was younger. Also consider, that Bill Gates was right at the corner of the information technology explosiion- being at the right place, at the right moment.

Letz be mature enough to argue out our intelligence and give credit to whom it due.

Figuratively speaking, that expression is wrong, you cannot argue out intelligence.

Sefago and Sagamite should be cautioned on how they trade and sniff out words to each other

I agree, but this thread is boring anyways so why not spice it. Everyone is just saying congratulations, or no congrats and give their reasons, who cares, the guy has graduated and doesn't evn know you exist. . I dont blame the person who mentioned her degree from Europe, she was trying to focus on herself, wetin concern her with the person who achieved in Mexico.

Thanks once again. I think the case is really simple. If he is not an economist he should prevent/discourage people refering to him as one. I think he also visits Nairaland, or his fans should try and point this to him. I dont have any personal thing with him. He who comes to equity must come with clean hands. He is a public figure.

Not is fault that Nigeria has poor journalistic standards. I dont think he calls himself an economist, the media does

Bill Gates is a drop out law student. How many computer science grads can argue with him about algorithms or low level computing?

If Bill Gates, the most successful IT guru of all times doesn't have a degree in Information Technology, shouldn't that teach you a lesson already?
Another guy without an IT Degree is Micheal Dell of Dell Computers!!

Ignorance parade, . Bill gates never finished college, not to even reach law school. His SATs indicate genius level (like close to einstein) so no need for school, also while he was at Harvard he spent a significant amount of time with computers. Bill Gates is an unsuitable example for people who did not finish school and succeeded. Dell dropped out from Utexas at austin, though he was academically so a better example

As for Pat Utomi, I dont think he had any formal training in economics, like classical economics, Not sure what he studied though

01 Oxford, Cambridge
02 LSE

[small gap]

04 Imperial (They do get front office roles but they get more quant roles which are very high paying but regarded as Mid Office, if not categorised so, they would have been joint with 2)

[gap]

05 Warwick
06 UCL

[big gap]

07 KCL
08 Bristol
09 Nottingham
10 Durham (moved up)
(An MSc from CASS after an OK undergrad and you're about on par with unis 07-09)

[small gap]

11 Bath
12 St Andrews
13 Edinburgh
14 York
15 Manchester (moved up)

[huge huge gap]

16 City [undergrad degrees]
17 Birmingham
18 Loughborough (moved down)
19 Aston [business postgrad] (new entry)
20 Exeter (new entry)

Quite interesting,

See Naija man yabbing Mexico. One day Ajegunle resident will yab those who live in VI

Na lie i talk, dont they have a swine flu problem, and we should be ashamed, what is the difference between mexico and naija.

out of 2million Nigerians in Mexico university na only 1 person stand out d rest na number 1 for drugs, well done boy.

Where did you get those statistics from?

@Sagamite and SEFAGO
Cud u guys please take the beef between the two of u elsewhere and let us have peace. Thank you!

Guess who started it? Not that difficult . It isn't beef though since you need two people to fight. Sagamite admires me, and so has decided to follow me. It is like jesus and the disciples. It is unconditional puppy love or should i say love at first sight (when he encountered my intellect)

Nigerians ar very intelligent[b](the igbos in particular)[/b]

Yeah right

hahaha u are funny.

Please go away.

come, i am actually interested, if you really know who I am, how, and why did you find out. Did u go around asking people in london?

Mexico is a cool country, Cancun, girls , lots of drinking- i am surprised he could pay attention to his books. Also the threat of swine flu

Man, I am actually beginning to get creeped out , with your obssession, if it is a girl, I would not be worried  , but if you know me that is fine, a lot of ppl do on nairaland actually, as I said I have bigger concerns rite now, "you spilling the beans" on my so-called achievements is the least of my problems right now, definitely 0 in priority rite now- please do so if you must- , that doesn't mean I wouldn't insult you when u say somethin stupid or disturb me  .

This news is a big deal because it's not[b] easy assimilating into a new environment[/b] and coming out at the top of your class with the majority of your classmates.

I do have to agree, with the culture shock and everything, well not mediocrity persay, but neither excellence. Excellence is Chinua Achebe, non-excellence is the rest of us 

Be careful, son.

haha relax mate, relax, abeg relax

By the way, I told you, I don't have time for you,  , go and slink into your little corner on the internet and FILE (no long thing)

As you know they still remain the best places to work in Nigeria.

yes man engineering companies all the way, those paper making companies are rubbish, no value to society except ahem multiplier, trading imaginary stuff, stock index, without actually producing anythin,

because google no dey even smell our side at all, na so so oil and gas companies dey reach our place.

yeah, I go to a substandard school, i don't even know why they come. They miss road  . we get no oil companies, because we don't do engineering.

I actually understand where is coming from- now that I read the whole thing again, although the  thing was a bit jagged, but i think that statement was redundant, but my fault, i should have read more closely, curious, was this a press release or a speech he gave. And second thought is the problem with Nigerian banks really[i] Corporate governance[/i]?

An Aboki still remains an Aboki no matter how learned he is. Their thinking faculty still drops to a certain extent.

That is not true- all humans are created equal (not in intelligence, but in the potential to reach heights of intelligence. He is just not qualified for the job, replace it with yoruba, igbo, ijaw, warri na the same Sanusi is doing this the wrong way, especially in a time where everyone has lost confidence in our banking models

I try not to include tribalism in any of my thoughts because I have no knowledge of any hausa person and haven't interacted with one b4 so i cannot judge one ethnicity or the other. But sometimes, some of Sanusi's actions and statements don't display much intelligence. For example:

Did he really say this !!!!

If this economy is going to recover, we must understand that it is not just about money. Money is a simple matter, because, as you know, we print money.

Does he think we are idiots.