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udezue:LOL, LOL, LOL (1000 times). So you immediately become one people when you break up sebi? So you guys would have no president right? And if all the presidents are all from Anambra, people from Enugu, Ebony and co, will sit down and be applauding? Not to talk of Urhobo, and Efik and company. Not going to work, I know Nigerians, we keep building divisions in our minds that no one gives an F about. You guys are arrogant enough to assume that you would initiate a new form of government not logically possible or precedented in this world, while unable to do that for at least a 500 years of existing on earth as a community. |
Federal government owns MMA in Lagos and Abuja airports. Imo state government built the Owerri airport.Please take a step back from your bigoted victim attitude and think critically. Lagos was a former capital of Nigeria and currently the commercial nerve center of Nigeria hence an international airport. Abuja is the current capital of Nigeria. Incidentally none of these places are in the South-East so no need for an international airport. We cannot build an international airport because you said so. When Nigeria becomes as wealthy as the US where you can build airports in every main city, then the South East can have an airport Ok. The Federal Government does not have money to be building International airports up and down. Please read this carefully, evaluate and hammer it into your thick skull which has grown hard from centuries of living in a village. ![]() |
[quote author=oyinda. link=topic=445416.msg6063566#msg6063566 date=1274319435]lol. what makes u think that the content of the newspaper is objective Fact!? so you take the parts u quoted about "primitive tribe" and what not, as FACT? ![]() i mean i get your point that it may be more credible than what these young kids r saying but still. i wouldn't call it fact. still lots of subjectivity to it.[/quote]Because my brilliant brain can tell fact from makeup especially from articles. My quote was focussed on the cannibalism part- no concerns on the primitive. Nevertheless, I would posit that the classifying the igbo as primitive in the anthropological sense is not that far from the truth. They did live in a very different set up than most cultures- even the Yoruba and Fulani lived in large towns and such. I know usually one must be skeptical of how Europeans/Americans write about Africans, but one can tell when biases influence writing style. The content is objective because it does not have a side. Its a well balanced piece of writing. I like the fact it does not blame the biafra war on one particular ethnic group. Fact in that it flows with other previous history sources written in the same period. |
udezue:Did not change anything I said. they wanted to see the economic development of a country they instituted. That economic development depended on being united. There is no international airport in the true North and the Hausa are not complaining. so i have a few more ignorant questions:They are collectively called Efik-Ibibio. I think efik s the ethnic group, and ibibio is the language. Efik is a linguistic language group, so it contains a large number of dialects |
[quote author=oyinda. link=topic=445416.msg6063485#msg6063485 date=1274318064]haha i'm yoruba o. friend of father ko, sister of husband ni ![]() wow TIMES magazine. as late as 1968? that's almost the 70s!! wow i'm speechless from reading that. just wow. we have indeed come a long way. or maybe not. what we have today is just modern colonialism anyways and what was your cannibalism thread? [/quote]They archived everything even as late as 1945. You will see all the info just as Nigeria was starting. Read some of their archives- you will find out that 95% of the people on NL say rubbish lolz. Facts are Facts ![]() The newspaper tell things as they were happening in Nigeria at that time not dem say info that these young igbo kids are using. Onlytruth:Who is fearing what? Abeg let Nigeria develop Murtala first b4 they even move to another international airport. Instead tell them to focus on building railway system, so you guys could travel by rail from lagos back to southeast Nigeria instead of whining about international airport. |
Besides, the Ibos are a proud, sometimes arrogant people, and their frequent bursts of self-praise did little to make them popular. Former Nigerian President Nnamdi Azikiwe, himself an Ibo, is fond of saying, "The god of Africa has created the Ibo nation to lead the children of Africa from the bondage of the ages."Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,838607-3,00.html#ixzz0oQZ7NuIp ![]() True nationalism here , by the father of nationalism sjeezy8:Its a brilliant piece and very accurate. A lot of what they write coincides with other sources. They are correct that Igbo people used to spend 40% of their funds sending a brilliant child in the village to school abroad. If you read Chinua Achebe's no longer at ease, the main character funded his education in the University of London in such a way. Times is really good, and they provide quite good info on what was happening in Nigeria at that time. They write really flowery though, like romanticizing Africa and making it look way more exotic than it seems. SEFAGO, did we not discuss that issue already. . .The cannibalism one?? I still dont know the answer- everyone called me a tribalist instead of giving me info. I have to trust what oyinbo people are saying since my own fellow africans dont want to provide info. Capische?? ![]() |
When the British arrived in Nigeria, the Ibos were among the most primitive people they encountered, scratching out their lives on yam patches and occasionally supplementing their low-protein diet with human flesh.Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,838607-2,00.html#ixzz0oQVTGTTc Hehe I am going to revive my cannibalism thread ![]() |
Yes it would have coz Africans would for the 1st time realize that they are NOT cattle and sheep the Europeans can herd and command to do anything. The British GOVT know this hence they fought tooth and nail to maintain the status quo so they could continue to milk the continent and they are still milking it. Yakubu Gowon did not handle anything brilliantly. He is a fool who got used and dumped and now his people are suffering the effects in the hands of the Fulani. The brilliant person is Woodrow Wilson of UK.Woodrow Wilson was American+racist+brilliant+ not born in the biafran era- I dont think you are talking of the same person I am thinking about The British Govt might have had a vested interest in keeping Nigeria one, but I think they also were interested in making sure that a country they saw so much potential in could work. Don't claim to know the agenda of the Brits except you get all their secret docs and read the mind of their diplomats- we can only suppose. Gowon was very benevolent- he tried his best to curb any excessive tribalistic retaliations that could occur from treason of the secessionist. chiogo:Well this goes back to the discussion , I am trying to point out that there is no conspiracy to undermine the igbo in Nigeria. Tell some of your state government to stop stealing money, and develop your airports.Good governance trumps tribalism everyday. Like who leads igbo states= Igbo leaders. Never seen an Hausa in power lol |
Oyinda if you are bored: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,838606,00.html http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,878714,00.html http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,844240,00.html http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,838607,00.html Dont let these igbo scammers fool you. Most of them debate biafra from an emotional point of view. I deal with pragmatism. Most igbo people on NL see themselves as the victim, not as a complementary tone in the bitter music of Nigeria. Yakubu Gowon handled the biafran situation brilliantly. No one could have done better. If Biafra had left Nigeria, it would have had significant effects on Africa. |
[quote author=oyinda. link=topic=445416.msg6063310#msg6063310 date=1274314041]haha rotflmao so what does oyinda translate to in igbo? i wanna kno ![]() anyways, i have my question mostly answered. oh one more. these efik-ibibio people and other minority groups, were they also part of biafra during the war? is biafra igbo only? or are cross-river, akwa-ibom and rivers state among?[/quote]They were fully part of biafra, but the SS people of the ND were more on the fence but they aided the biafrans in food and kind |
So, it's not a low percentage. The Igbos are still a minority. Anything less than 50% = minority.lolz, I think its the highest percentage not the 50%. I might be wrong I am not usually wrong though And what did I say about renovating the existing ones?LOLz, what I am saying is that an international airport requires to reach a certain standard. MM is an international airport because it meets the requirements for one. Of course it must have better facilities than the one in the east. You want Airfrance or BA or Delta to be landing in shitty airports? international airports cost money. And for a small country like Nigeria, I think we have more than enough. Please go and find out how many international airports some countries have before you start bickering |
[quote author=oyinda. link=topic=445416.msg6063204#msg6063204 date=1274312577]ok so what ethnic group do akwa ibomites belong to? [/quote]Efik-ibibio mostly. They are a mixture of ethnic groups but the dominant ones are the Efiksudezue:Una no dey hear? Do you know how much it would cost to set up an international airport? Do you think it has to do with the naija governement? If your leaders decide to have an international airport, I doubt anyone would stop them lol. |
Calabar people are Efik lol, though there might be some igbo people. I would be the first to admit, I am really clueless about the complex identities in Nigeria |
But whatever, I'm done arguing. The bottom line is that even if there exists airports in the East, most of them are NOT yet recognized as international. At the end of the day, they're useless to many Igbos esp. those outside the country.You dont just recognize an airport as international chiogo- you need to create facilities that can make it an international airport. International plane flights require a lot of facilities and man power that cost money. Even murtala muhammad does not have sufficient facilities b4 you make another airport in the east. Dont forget that its not just incoming flights but outgoing one- now the US has to worry about some south-east/south-south terrorist from MEND [quote author=oyinda. link=topic=445416.msg6063133#msg6063133 date=1274311590]ok thanks for the clarification. it confuses me when i hear "calabar people this" "igbo people that" then i think to myself, aren't calabar people igbo? lol and why is ANAMBRA in caps lock? is that where you are from?[/quote]Sjeezy8 is yarning you yams ![]() |
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Whats happening here? All these arguments about airport. let me reread, and learn the source of all the brouhaha |
4 Play:Hmm, depends. Oxford and Cambridge also depend on foreign graduates for dough. The problem is that the average Nigerian is not given the opportunity to attend either Oxford or Cambridge so there is not a critical mass number to show the quality of Nigerian graduate. Oxbridge cost quite a large amount of money that the average Nigerian student cannot afford. shotster50:True, but mekusxx actually believes what he writes. I am aware than no ethnic group has the prerogative over good or bad. Basically I stoke trouble, but I rarely start it. Two different things. |
Kai check out how I dominated the thread- I am such an attention seeker ![]() Anyways it was obviously a joke, I knew most people would not post in this thread anyways until I start trouble. by the way I said Yoruba people are smart but I did not denigrate anyone. Why the hate? |
Ikengawo:LOL thats quite the generalization. Its a bit perspicacious in that you are correct in asserting that average Nigeria students do excel in the UK/US. You cannot blame them- the fear of returning to poverty in Nigeria would make you work harder in the US/UK. |
^ See im name now- Goodluck Jonathan- thats a bonafide igbo name ![]() |
Dede1:The word "cesspit" don suffer in your hands |
yoruba people are so smart |
ezeagu:True that- townhouse meeting that no non-igbo was invited to, so I did not comment |
agabaI23:I was writing a 50 paged paper- so I typed most of my stuff quickly. My writing skills are still phenomenal ![]() |
That night as they slept on the floor at the back of To-chi’s shop, Mekus woke up suddenly to a strange feeling - his anus was being penetrated ! He tried to resist ,but was too tired and he sort of enjoyed it.HAHAHA I just cannot add anything to such a beautiful piece |
Nna bros this story is funny |
[quote author=Ijele-igbo link=topic=445579.msg6040074#msg6040074 date=1273910959]Who gives a Zap about UK? The best university, Harvard University is in the US. Canada is even better than UK.[/quote]LOL |
If people learn to work together and stop being greedy, the world would be a much better a place. We do not have to live in a Hobbesian state of nature.Never going to happen. We are more likely to have a flying sheep called Dolly in a few years than that ever happening. |
How do you know a nation-state cannot work in such a way? Just because it was never tried before does not mean it will not work. The United States was an experiment that apparently worked. I do not believe in such zero-sum games either. If people learn to work together and stop being greedy, the world would be a much better a place. We do not have to live in a Hobbesian state of nature.Because so many factors would get in the way. The theory I propose: The larger a political unit, the more susceptible it is to decay. You can see that is socialist theory- all good as theory, but not really good when trying to apply it to large states like the former USSR. The supposed communal democracy would not even likely work if all the igbo come together to form Biafra. i dont know the various divisions with igbo people but I am sure problems would arise from the diversity with the igbo people. The Hausa are one of the most unified groups because they have a strong Caste system. The Fulani elite in the leadership realm and the Hausa at the core masses. This has been solidified for centuries with the common islamic faith, and the Islamic structure. Infact the Hausa Fulani had the closest paradigm of a nation state- makese sense that they can play politics with superior skills well. You give too much credit to the hausa fulani. We have seen how united they are with the incapacitation of Yaradua and eventual death and all the undercurrent. We have seen how united they are, yet Atiku and Buhari cannot form a credible opposition party.Olodo. Atiku is not Hausa-fulani, and I doubt Buhari is one too. Infact most of Nigerian presidents from the North have not being Hausa Fulani. Abacha was Kanuri too. The fulani-Hausa influence stuff in the background. |
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[/quote]They archived everything even as late as 1945. You will see all the info just as Nigeria was starting. Read some of their archives- you will find out that 95% of the people on NL say rubbish lolz. Facts are Facts
it was like praising the igbo for having the potential to be the most westernized(which they are) and at the same time it was kinda degrading to what is actually "igbo" according to what the europeans thought was primative.