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mekuszyx:
I look toward the West, I see no leadership. I look toward the North, none can be found.

The west has leadership. Just after Awolowo it has been split between various factions. There has been no unifying Yoruba leader- The Afenifere have had problems and such. Not just the igbo are diverse you know. There are Egba Yoruba, lagos Yoruba, Ondo Yoruba, Ekiti Yoruba, Ogbomosho Yoruba and so on. As you are aware. "Yoruba" and "Igbo" and even the "Hausa-Fulani" are pseudo identities that emerged during colonial eras and we were all scrambling to define ourselves. The Hausa-Fulani have had years to develop a system that makes them more solid and suitable to dominate the politics of a nation state.

I do not believe in generalizations that are either positive or negative. This is something that I stand by. I do not look at the group, I look at the individual. Now I will remark on cultural traits, such as competition among Igbo families to produce children who are highly educated. This is something that I have noticed among the Igbos in the United States. I cannot talk about another group that I do not know personally.

You are generalizing, a positive generalization. As I previously mentioned, it makes sense to you because it is "good." Its like saying the chinese are hardworking. You prolly glossed through all the bad traits that might arise from such a competition by igbo families to make their children better. For example, hypothetically, the drive to produce educated igbo children could drive the parent to beat their children all the time to make them study. Then if I state that all igbo parents beat their children- I would have half of the igbo crowd on NL on my throat.

Cultural traits = Stereotypes a lot

Generalizations are always wrong, because there are always differences. I tend to stay away from a generalized statement. Now I may mention a cultural trait, but I will not speak in such blanket terms. Especially when a people is as diverse as the Ndi Igbo.

Every Yoruba eats Amala is a pretty good generalization. I am sure if I made a good generalization of igbo people you would probably not care. But when I make bad generalizations you guys get indignant.

Our republican form of governance has served us for over a thousand years, and I do not see any change coming to our culture on that front.

Nation-states cannot work in such a way. No nation state in the world is communal or truly democratic, even the origin of democratic thought- the United States cannot claim true democracy. Such types of democracy can only work in small villages or small towns. Get with it- we are in the 21st Century. The West won, and we gotta do things like the West. Exploitation is the rule of the game- every tribe for themselves, this is not christmas  

Mediocre business school? Huh The Smith School of Business is in the top 20. Am staying local.

http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-business-schools/rankings/title+university%20of%20maryland

Rubbish, who said Igbo people don't start conglomerates. Whenever we are in town, we get together for a meeting and plan to buy up all the land in the town. Why fight over political spoils when we can buy up all the land right from underneath you all. You Yoruba people cannot even trust one another. My Yoruba friends would trust an Igbo man before they trust their own brother. Your people are wicked ooooooo

True we dont trust each other. C'est la vie. My mother always told me not to trust anyone, including her but myself. That independence has paid off so much in my life.

Now it is time to go back on topics and the poster of this thread is highly ignorant. That my brethren did not need to dignify him with a response.

Ok, I dont agree with the latter part of the Posters comments. I believe the igbo could field brilliant presidents/leader if they are allowed to. So could any ethnic group. And I am very well aware that the Igbo are very much marginalized in tyhe power structure of Nigeria. However, I agree that the igbo extraction have not shown the superb leadership skills that Yoruba or Hausa people have. Leadership is not about leading, thats childish crap- its all about exploiting, so maybe its cultural per se?

the igbo have been more communal than the Yoruba or Hausa who have been organized into Feudal and State system, so this would make sense. As Ezeuche pointed out, trust is a problem in Yoruba culture possibly.

Generalizations might be wrong but they can sometimes be correct. You culture does impose some effects on how you think. I can never thing the same way as a Caucasian who grew up in Germany no matter how long I stay in Germany.

[quote author=UcheUwadi_ link=topic=445416.msg6039479#msg6039479 date=1273893854]Interesting topic. Especially the conversation that is occurring right now as we speak. And all this talk of flat heads.

Are we Igbos predisposed to having flat heads?

[/quote]As predisposed as Ashkenazim Jews are to Cystic Fibrosis

EzeUche:
I have that way with the Yoruba women.  

Is Smith School in the US?   lol It is part of the University of Maryland. And I will always support Biafra even at the expense of my mixed Yoruba children.

LOL, my aunt actually works in admissions at UMD. Man you wasted your time. In such a bad economy, you should not be going to a mediocre business school, but let me keep my mouth shut.

EzeUche:
Why do that when I can hire the Mexicans for pennies?  Start my own business conglomerate. Have a Yoruba secretary to help service my company and I!!!  

Thats your business. Inbtw rarely do Igbo people start conglomerates. That is the forte of Yoruba people. You guys own Alaba I admit. Do you want me to list Yoruba dominance of the Nigerian industry- I did it for baba mekyusxx, and I have time to do it for you. Infact, I love you guys die. You helped a brokeass boy like me have the opportunity to buy all this Playstation games.

EzeUche:
Naw not spare parts, I am into changing oil at Jiffy Lube!!!

You do not stray far from your family trade. I think you guys should import gala, and start selling it on bridges in the US. You could commercialize that Poo mate. On second thought, you might declare biafra in the middle of the US

EzeUche:
I see people are still talking. FYI, I am on an accelerated MBA program due to the my course work in the Smith School of Business. I am all about the business.

LOL, and do what spare parts selling  

Are you mad?
What rubbish!! What does this have to do with me?

Naija girl no vex. No be fight. Una I just wanted you to meet an aspiring and ambitious igbo boy called ezeuche. Nna its matchmaking I dey do.

that presentation about how all the great african american men like george washington carver were of igbo "extraction" was kick backside.

his classmates have not recovered yet from his rendition of the new yam festival.

LOL New Yam festival

At least they dont claim Michelle Obama is Yoruba like becomrich hehe. Or Michael Jackson. Thats all I need. They can claim George Washington Carver

Inbtw, a lot of African Americans are of igbo stock.  . Thats why I never dispute any of their claims to owning every "supposed black inventor'

Igbo people, I have to admit, are phenomenal at documenting every facet of their development.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igbo_American

I think Ezeuche should connect with the Igbo diaspora in America, instead of referring them as Akata in that arrogant Nigerian immigrant way

ezeuche is on the 7 year plan.   it's not easy passing african american studies 101 on the first try you know.

LOL, i think it more black studies or Afro-American studies. Makes sense though he prolly spends all time shouting igbo kwenu, kwenu, kwezenu abruptly in class, scaring everyone.

LOL, u have a long way to graduate chiogo. Tell your brother ezeuche who is 22 and has not yet graduated to face his studies,a nd stop debating issues on igbo politics. He probably knows nothing about the dynamics of naija politics.

Anuofia

sjeezy8:
you guys should be tired about talking about d same shiot - enjoy an igbo video its one of my favorite songs and vid-



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8I4H65garU

gaskiya, yoruba boys and ikebe supa. Sjeezy8 small small or you go wound oh.

We seen the best the Yoruba and the Hausa have done, and frankly, the world is laughing at Nigeria. Igbos have to go abroad to get appreciated for our brilliance.

brilliance kini

Abagworo:
orji kalu,ngozichukwu odili and chibuike amaechi are strong enough to represent igbo interests but i dont think they would ever be given that chance.

So you want a president that serves Igbo interest as opposed to national interest hmmm interesting. Thanks for yhe education.

Please could you outline steps taking by Igbo people to field viable candiates for leadership position. Apart from pwns. ALso please give examples when members of your family, have stepped away from the status quo, and decide to run for office themselves.

LOL, you want to teach me grammar . My writing skills are phenomenal. Please show respect to whom is due. I am not even talking of grammar- I am criticizing your word choice. Know the difference.

Moreover the poster is somewhat right.

bodsibobo:
Hey mekus and wily+wily etc,

I really wonder what manner of human beings you guys are. I'm surrounded by Igbo people in my office and these guys are excellent, friendly, jovial, fun people and we yorubas get along well with them; we are all like a big happy family.

I wonder how you relate with other tribes in your real life if you can be this hostile to them on the internet. I definitely do not want people like you around me!!

Thats true- all the igbo people I worked with once during an internship, were such nice and friendly people lol. Tells you that the Internets draws the weirdos in all ethnic groups and race.

illusion2:
I beg no dilute my bestseller,start your own series

Katsumoto:
I agree;
SEFAGO, you can call yours 'the adventures of Emeka the village boy in a big city'

I think I will start in the middle when Emeka gets to Obodo Oyinbo, after he manages to convince the embassy that he wants to take classes to improve his spare parts trading skill.

Dede1:
The “Oluwole” group is on the run in Ibadan. The fake document printing outfit was raided in Ibadan and Lagos. The story reaching nairaland informed that you are one of the patrons.

I have no doubts that your name will appear on the list of people who have done business with the “Oluwole”.

I shall not teach you that acumen is a simple noun and can be qualified with any adjectival clause.

I meant the meaning of the word. Your word choice needs a lot of work. If you were in college/university which required writing, you probably would have failed a long time ago.

lolz Abeg let us make this story continuous- I would write my bit later, conflating your story with mine

Poor emeka

Dede1:
It is rather unfortunate that your comprehensive acumen led you to this ignorant conclusion. As ignorant as your illogical deduction may appear on the post, it remains your unsolicited opinion.

It is no gaining saying to iterate that when Igbo extraction is placed at helm of anything in the cesspit called Nigeria, progress begins to show. Talk about election in Nigeria, I can equivocally state that there has never been a fraud or rig free election conducted the country. I can also state that neither Iwu nor Igbo extractions were the only stewards of those elections.

It is a fact that any little issue concerning any Igbo extraction has been magnified to infinite limit in Nigeria. There has been allegation of fraud leveled against Bankole, the speaker of the house, yet such allegation has not been blown out of proportion. If Bankole is Igbo, hell would have let loose.

You are correct about the fact that Ndigbo has failed to give massive support to their sons and daughters when leveled with fraud allegation in Nigerian context. I am also disappointed on the noted Ndigbos’ nonchalance toward staging unshakable defense for Igbo extraction under politically motivated fraud allegations. Nigeria does not worth any patriotic sacrifice and certainly not from Ndigbo.

kedu?

So many wrongly used words. Acumen is used wrongly for starters

chicks should put out more to reduce problems of rape . . .

No mind me jorr

The guy was just trying to get himself some p**sy. No hate.

The guy clubbed the woman, so as to make the experience less traumatising for her. At least the woman cannot remember the experience of the rape. Such a nice young man 

@006

As tkb417 pointed out- we really are not interested in your achievements. What we are most interested in though, is the insults on Abiola- a great man.Infact, if I could half achieve what Abiola achieved, I would feel fulfilled. thats the type of achievement we strive for lol.

Abiola was a true business magnate. Its insulting that a small fry like mekusxxx who has not achieved a tenth of what abiola has is insulting such a great man.

mekuszyx:
Where are all my posts? This thread was like 19 pages as of yesterday.

Just shows you wasted your life writing a thesis online lol

Dede1:
The scathing statements you have made against this post and level of your understanding of Biafra as being affair of defunct eastern region of Nigeria left me with no option to think that you are not only misguided bigot but ethnic irredentist. I suggest to you to approach the post with none abused mind and set for studious perusal of the post. I bet you will not dictate where the author equated Biafra with Igbo.

I shall not waste time to rain on your unfunny parade by saying that you and your ilk of like-minded bigots knowingly or unknowingly dragged Biafra equals Igbo ethnicity into this fray. I have no doubts you knew that Biafra was a marker for defunct eastern region of Nigeria as evidenced in your previous posts but could not fathom what compelled you into ethnically biased outburst. I dictated that Biafran sons and daughters the author referred in the post could either be Igbo, Ibibio, Atama, Annang, Ogoni, Efik or Ijo of eastern Nigeria.

LOL, this sentence was just winding around, and dos not make sense- what exactly, are u trying to say lol

He is a Biafran son, the same way your hero Saro Wiwa is an Ogoni nation's son. John Fashanu an Odua son we are often reminded. You are one of those in the habit of telling us about Igbo drug pushers and 419ers but never as Nigerians, now you have realise the uselessness of identity because it suits your inconsistency towards Ndigbo/Biafra.
Go and check you previous post and see you past history over the issue of labeling and negative identity based on one's action. You are now an enemy of your previous beliefs you loved to champion.

LOl, its true though that a significant number of igbos carry drugs. Like its a basic fact of life. However the converse is not the case that all igbo are drug pushers, and I have not asserted such.

I repeat, I dont care about MP, or whatever, you are just doing disservice to the several Nigerians who saw past ehnicity, and voted for him to get to that position.

udezue:
All you bittches need to hop off Eziachi's nutsack and worry about your own lives.Ife he happy that a son Biafra is making successful strides in UK or anywhere then that is his rights. I can't stand dimwitss who think they have the right to force their belief on others. If the guy committed a crime many of u simpletons like Sefago will be quick to tell us that he is Igbo or Nigerdeltan but because this is not that the kind of story u want to hear all of a sudden his Biafra heritage is now something to hide. All yall need to go sukk on a big pipe.

i like being right on his nuts, they are hard to crack - no homo-but seriously nothing spectacular about being an MP

lol, weirdos- who cares about a boy boy in the parliament. If thats achievement that is your own cup of tea. What is paining everyone is that the guy won the support of several Nigerians- Just because he is Nigerian. Nigerians notice this thing- if they see someone with the same name they have or similar culture they would favor him.

Anyways I am not claiming him- his achievements are minute to what I call real achievement. My only gripe is that you guys are referring to him as a true Biafran son. lol

Why are you wasting cyberspace

Ok so what?
Discuss?

Abeg go and toast babes on saturday, and stop making silly threads

This is what the illiterates Igbo boy was claiming about Fela's song and using it as "evidence"

The most widely known critic of Chief Abiola, was Fela. In his twenty-five minute song "ITT" (International Thief Thief), although the song was not about Moshood Abiola, he mentioned the name of both Olusegun Obasanjo and Moshood Abiola at the very end. It is far less widely known that Fela had been signed to Moshood Abiola's record label, Decca W.A. and had a dispute over royalties with him. When Abiola asked Fela to take him to court if he felt that he had been treated unfairly, he instead opted to destroy the studio's of Decca. This may have been because Abiola's influence and Fela's unpopularity with the establishment would have made it unlikely that he received a fair trial.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moshood_Kashimawo_Olawale_Abiola

See Abiola's influence. Pray that your life worth and impact reaches half of his.

Moshood Abiola invested heavily in Nigeria and West Africa. He set up Abiola Farms, Abiola bookshops, Radio Communications Nigeria, Wonder bakeries, Concord Press, Concord Airlines, Summit oil international ltd, Africa Ocean lines, Habib Bank, Decca W.A. ltd, and Abiola football club. In addition to this he also magaged to perform his duties as[b] Chairman of the G15 business council[/b], President of the Nigerian Stock Exchange, Patron of the Kwame Nkrumah Foundation, Patron of the WEB Du Bois foundation, trustee of the Martin Luther King foundation and director of the International Press Institute

Really? A drug lord 

mekusxx really

"Because of this man, there is both cause for hope and certainty that the agony and protests of those who suffer injustice shall give way to peace and human dignity. The children of the world shall know the great work of this extraordinary leader and his fervent mission to right wrong, to do justice, and to serve mankind. The enemies which imperil the future of generations to come: poverty, ignorance, disease, hunger, and racism have each seen effects of the valiant work of Chief Abiola. Through him and others like him, never again will freedom rest in the domain of the few. We, the members of the Congressional Black Caucus salute him this day as a hero in the global pursuit to preserve the history and the legacy of the African diaspora

Moshood Abiola was detained for four years, largely in solitary confinement with a Bible, Qur'an, and fourteen guards as companions. During that time, Pope John Paul II, Archbishop Desmond Tutu and human rights activists from all over the world lobbied the Nigerian government for his release.

I can only shake my head at our short memories, and cry for us. Because I am well aware that I cannot change your attitudes.

Moshood Abiola was twice voted international businessman of the year, and received numerous honorary doctorates from universities all over the world. In 1987 he was bestowed with the golden key to the city of Washington D.C., and he was bestowed with awards from the NAACP and the King center in the USA, as well as the International Committee on Education for Teaching in Paris, amongst many others.

Mekuszxx biko, come hia, please explain to me how a drug lord achieved. Even more so, name one spare parts dealer who has achieved so significantly??

mekusxxx:
LIKE OBJ, LIKE AWO, LIKE MKO (who treacherously claimed that he could have done without Igbos after they voted 45 % for him). The list goes on and on, plus other examples  I can give easily. There you have it, folks.

Just because a large number of treacherous Yoruba people feature prominently in Nigerian politics does not mean much. Just as there are people like Wole Soyinka, does not mean all Yoruba people are super literary geniuses.

Just as there are frauds like emeagwali, does not mean all igbo people are frauds (debatable though  ) 

Do you want me to link you to articles that praise MKO, as evidence of how good the man is?

And this is not to suggest to anyone that I got my funding from BBSRC

Those are my secrets and if you want to know, you must ask politely and in private

I am not going to waste my time arguing on this, neither am I interested  . Please provide evidence that Abiola was a drug lord.

mekusxxx:
I have no problem with Hausa/Fulani because they are not traitors. OBj, by denying the PDP arangement that brought him to power has again shown an example of how untrustworthy a typical Yoruba can be. THAT IS THE CRUX OF THE MATTER

LOL, really? Obj=Yoruba people.