Politics › Re: Origins Of The Myth About Igbos Hating Themselves by selemempe(op): 4:56pm On Sep 16, 2019 |
LegendHero: What the bleep did I just read? I showed you a picture proof and yet you are talking about Akintola here, nawa o.
Nawa for you bro o. Which kind lie be this nao haba was ui a federal uni or a regional uni...its a simple issue. Unn was a regional uni at the time so why will ui be a federal uni |
Politics › Re: Origins Of The Myth About Igbos Hating Themselves by selemempe(op): 4:21pm On Sep 16, 2019 |
LegendHero: @the bolded, that was a lie but let me educate you.
The white man never appointed Dike as the VC of UI. Balewa and his friend Azikwe did and he was appointed in 1963 as the first indigenous VC after Nigeria was already independent.
DO you even know the reason why Dike resigned? The western region had enough of the dominating attitude of Azikwe hiding under the banner of Balewa and they demanded his resignation then.
The Igbos then are akin to the Fulanis in their dominating attitude, Azikwe had to from the alliance with Balewa and he made sure he positioned the Igbos in strategic position since the Northerners never for once valued education much then. It's all a game of politics and betrayal.
The Igbos taught the Northerners the game of domination, and the Northerners used that template well enough. It is even evident in what Ahmadu Bello said then about the Igbos, what you cannot have you try to condemn, and most times you CANNOT accept what you demand from others.
Attached is the image of Balewa with Prof. Dike in 1963. nope...UI was not a federal school so balewa had zero rights to choose its vc...Akintola was the one who appointed a vc for ui. Ui became federal during the military era |
Politics › Re: There Are Not Up To 100 Yorubas Or Hausas That Can Speak Fluent Igbo by selemempe: 4:19pm On Sep 16, 2019 |
kayfra: There's no conspiracy against Igbos. Most of the real and imagined issues with Igbos are mostly self inflicted and it's chiefly due to an outsized ego and inferiority complex. Having both is a paradox, if you ask me lol....u are right to an extent and wrong to another How are u right? The igbos get normal allocations from fg like every other people. The issue of igbo president could be because no strong igbo candidate has emerged since Azikiwe How are u wrong? U are wrong because the creation of states were made primarily to cut the igbos to size. Gowon carefully carved major igbo territories into rivers state controlled by the ijaws to spite and curtail the igbos. Obj registered ikwere as an independent tribe to cutail the igbo but meanwhile he carved ijaw areas into ondo to gv the sw their 1st oil assets. Unn was left to rot for yrs by the military while ABU and UI were getting major fundings. The 1999 constitution was a militart constitution with minimal igbo input as major stake holder in the nigeria project. Ports in the east were abandoned by the military and obj for yrs while western ports were getting all the traffic. The APC has refused to gv igbos any meaningful position for not voting them while pdp gave the north and west major positions even when they did not vote pdp. There is conspiracy bro |
Politics › Re: Origins Of The Myth About Igbos Hating Themselves by selemempe(op): 3:44pm On Sep 16, 2019 |
LegendHero: Stop saying all these things you are saying. Even a blind man knows the Yorubas have been the most intelligent tribe since 1900 and it’s just plain ignorance to say the Igbos home key post pre-civil war coz of their intelligence.
What happened then is akin to what Buhari is doing now, ethic favoritism, in 50 years time the Fulanis will keep saying they are the most intelligent people also for holding key post in federal parastatals and etc.
The reason the Igbos are holding those post them is because of the treacherous nature of Azikwe and his betrayal to the southern hemogeny especially the Yorubas. He colluded with the illiterate North so as to be able to control the government from behind and made sure he installed his kinsmen in most of those post.
Isn’t that what the Nzeogwus did also? They killed all the leaders of other tribes and installed one of their own as the military president so as to maintain dominance over other people.
I still get mad anytime I remeber that Nigeria is working then , and the greedy Igbos truncated a working system to put us in the first mess Nigeria faced.
They even lied that they are trying to install Awolowo to justify their barbaric coup, meanwhile Awolowo was in prison and was released by Gowon a Northerner.
Do you guys even always think about your ancestors past? Do you ever question they motive for once? Do you even blame them for once?
I’ve told people that the Igbos taught the fulanis the science of dominance, it was first exhibited by Azikwe who thought he will rule a bigger Nigeria by opposing secession clause, also he exhibited it when he tried to become the premier of western region.
Think guys, please think! the key posts igbos held was when the white man was incharge. It was simple...igbos were taken on the basis of merit and their believe in one nigeria then. Many igbos could speak either hausa or yoruba fluently then and were adequatelu educated to hold posts even outside their region. The 1st vc of UI was an igbo man...go figure. Was it zik that put him too? Akintola had no other person available to lead UI he had to choose an Igbo man.... |
Politics › Re: Origins Of The Myth About Igbos Hating Themselves by selemempe(op): 3:41pm On Sep 16, 2019 |
muykem: Ijaw can never forgive Igbo. They forcefully took over their land so ijaw man need to go to Eungu before getting a plot of land in PH. nothing of the sort ever happened. Stick to facts not ibadan gossips |
Politics › Re: Origins Of The Myth About Igbos Hating Themselves by selemempe(op): 3:06pm On Sep 16, 2019 |
Area4Area: Instead of telling the whole story, you are busy trying to cut and join where suits you pls tell the whole story |
Politics › Re: Origins Of The Myth About Igbos Hating Themselves by selemempe(op): 3:02pm On Sep 16, 2019 |
Difrent: Everyone knows the Iboman is his own greatest enemy.... Your article stopped being interesting when you mentioned that ibos supported Nnamdi Azikwe to become eastern region president after losing to awolowo in the west, thereby edging out Oyo ita....for goodness sake why would nnamdi azikwe leave the premiership of his own region and be struggling with a yorubaman for the premiership of western region if not greed! He lost out and came back home and unfairly removed Oyo ita because he is not an iboman. This is the real nature of the iboman and we are seeing the same thing since they lost elections in 2015 ,shameless people. A premiere is a premiere...doesnt matter which region...so how is it igbo greed? Zik was a protege of the founder of NCNC...his early political base was the west so it was him believing in one nigeria without realising the inate tribalism in u guys. If u say he unfairly removed Eyo Ita wat will u say to how Awolowo removed him? Stick to one narrative |
Politics › Re: Origins Of The Myth About Igbos Hating Themselves by selemempe(op): 2:57pm On Sep 16, 2019 |
kenwhawha: OP is the same person as this poster deceiving his coneskull. Has over 20 accounts he uses to open Igbo threads to sow division and for traffic. 70% of threads on Nairaland must contain Igbo, IPOB, Biafra, Nnamdi Kanu for Nairaland to remain relevant. Without Igbo news, nairaland will cease to exist. read the post 1st b4 u start insulting me. U obviously dont even knw wat the post is about smh |
Politics › Re: Origins Of The Myth About Igbos Hating Themselves by selemempe(op): 10:14am On Sep 16, 2019 |
helinues: Must you blame your misfortunes on everyone all the time? Why didn't you put your house in order?
So Yoruba would leave their problems and be caring more about others headache?
We have not packed oracle from ground, it has started working.. Or is not on this same thread your people are antagonising united Igbo? Are they also Yoruba or sent by Yoruba's ? they are yorubas. |
Politics › Re: Origins Of The Myth About Igbos Hating Themselves by selemempe(op): 9:34am On Sep 16, 2019 |
helinues: Is Ebonyi not part of old eastern region? Why are they referring to them as Wawa? Brotherly name?
Those who practiced OSU back then that were outcast, did they migrate from Burundi to old eastern region?
Let even assumed your story line is through, was is it old SW people that were oppressing Ijaws and Ogini?
You should have written the article without lumping Yoruba's to it, but guess what, your people can never do it even for a day.
You guys are the enemy of yourself.. Wawa is not ebonyi but Enugu...meanwhile the same wawa region became the capital of the eastern region and hosted the 1st university in nigeria. Wawa is not a hate name mind u...i am a wawa man just as onitsha man is an agbaenu man....u wont understand sha Osu caste system is entirely wat most of u dont understand. They are not slaves and nobody forced anybody to be osu. They are ppl who dedicated their life to the gods. Their family are only allowed to marry themselves because its believed they are highly spiritual. It became an issue in the 1970s due to yoruba media hype The oppression of ijaws the eastern region was not nearly as bad as the oppression of ijaws and edos in the old western region. They couldnt take it anymore they had to leave Lumping yorubas to it is the moral of the story. Such a thing would never have been heard if not for the voice the yorubas lent to it to spite the igbos The yorubas are the friends of themselves but just last week oro worshippers were looking for muslim women to kill in oyo in 2019 instagram year. Chai |
Politics › Re: Origins Of The Myth About Igbos Hating Themselves by selemempe(op): 5:08am On Sep 16, 2019 |
Drop ur comments below |
Politics › Re: Biafra: Kanu Leads Delegation To UN On Tuesday by selemempe: 4:38am On Sep 16, 2019 |
Area4Area: ......and Igbos don't kill each other all because of land disputes. Every other thing you wrote made no sense bro let me tell u...the fact that u once claimed to be an igboman (only for it to bursted as false) makes u lack credibility |
Politics › Re: Biafra: Kanu Leads Delegation To UN On Tuesday by selemempe: 4:22am On Sep 16, 2019 |
Area4Area: South Sudan, Eritrea went through decades of war, Yemen is still in war as we speak. Are you ready for decades of war with the resulting loss of lifes and destruction of Igboland then the UN would come and conduct a referendum for you? are we not ready? Time will tell |
Politics › Origins Of The Myth About Igbos Hating Themselves by selemempe(op): 4:21am On Sep 16, 2019 |
Many Nigerians (including Igbos) have either heard this myth or voiced it in some occassions. Do you know the history? Read and learn and diffuse your prejudices. Before 1966, the Igbos showed a rare unity unexpected of a people that never had a central leadership in their history. That single-mindedness showed itself in the 1922 Aba women riot that saw organised protests from market women because of colonial taxes (1st of its kind in Nigeria). It also showed itself when the Igbos rallied around Nnamdi Azikiwe in 1953 to become premeire of the East after he lost out to Awolowo in the west. The Igbos supported him and effectively dethrone Eyo Ita from Calabar. The Igbo unity and single-mindedness saw them develope a curious apprentice system that saw thousands of Igbo youths lifted out of the villages by masters who took them to cities (especially in the north) to learn a skill or a trade. The Igbos became a successful and visible minority through this apprentiship system all across Nigeria to the discomfort of the north. The Igbos achieved another feet through unity of purpose when the Igbos of Delta province in Western Region, under the banner of Zik's NCNC, rallied to be carved out of the west along with the Edoids. This was at a time when Awolowo was fighting a political war with his protegè Akintola. The Igbos were able to divide the West and install an Igboman as Premiere of the new Midwest Region. The unity of Igbos (plus their industrious nature  ) also saw them 1st occupy the majority of post independence political positions. They occupied offices of President, Senate President, Speaker, Chief of Army, Chief of Police and dominated the government of Balewa and the Federal Civil Service. This caused issues ofcourse. Jelousy and envy was directed at the Igbos from all around. Then the unthinkable happened  Predominantly Igbo soldiers executed the coup that left prominent people from other tribes dead except the Igbos. And of course an Igboman was the beneficiary of the coup. Who wouldn't think it was another Igbo ''grand plot to dominate''? Now to the origin of Igbos not loving themselves; the civil war and aftermath caused it all. How? The Ijaws who were a major (probably the 2nd largest) ethnic group in the Eastern region were not very happy with the Igbos. They felt left out of the scheme of power as far back as 1953. The Ibibio/efiks played the role the yorubas currently play to the north, they support Igbos' dominance of the east with the hope of a sit at the table. Azikiwe was a master of divide and conquer. He gave the Calabas their sit and they gave him their support. So, the Ijaws and Oginis felt isolated. The civil war provided the opportunity they sort. Gowon divided the East into 3 states. The largest city of the East (Port Harcourt) and the major oil wells at the time were carefully carved into Rivers state- a state that was majority Ijaw. The Igbos in the new entity realised the dangers facing them as a result of posible Ijaw oppression. Their leader at the time called Elechi Amadi decided with the elders of the predominantly Ikwere-Igbo clan to dissociate themselves from Igbos in the heat of the civil war. That was it. When the war ended, the Ijaws and the newly formed Ikwere ethnic group refused to allow returning Igbos reclaim their property in PH. In 1978 constitutional conference, many Igbo clans disillusioned by the Igbo identity and the place of Igbos in the new Nigeria decided to go autonomous. Ika, Ukwani and Ikwere clans of Igbo were listed as independent tribes in the constitution. Ikwere people, influenced by the Ijaws, will hardly sell land to an Igboman. Many Igbos from present Imo and Abia states decided to become Ikweres than Igbos. As all these things were happening through the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s, the ever gallant Yoruba media were taking note and resounding it through-out Nigeria that the once united, homogenous and powerful Igbos are no longer united or homogenous nay powerful. The politics of Senate Presidency in 1999-2007, which saw Igbos produce 5 SPs in 8 years did not help matters at all. It got to a sad point that even Igbos started doubting themselves. This is the story. But is it not funny that a people who helped themselves, dragging themselves out of poverty one person at a time after they were left with nothing but 20 pounds are said not to be united. But Akintola and Awolowo were united. Ife and modakeke were united, boko haram and kanuris were united, fulani and middlebelt farmers were united...etc I hope that one day the Ikweres (especially), Ikas and Ukwuanis will come back to the fold and be proud Igbos again so that we can go back to our winning ways when Zik was our leader. Shalom Selemepe |
Politics › Re: Mugabe: Osinbajo Returns To Nigeria From Zimbabwe (photo) by selemempe: 3:18am On Sep 16, 2019 |
Mourner-in-chief.
Buhari makes a prof look like a stupid man. Just see how a prof of law is turned to a pedestrian who was sharing 10k a few months ago in markets and now going to funerals every week
But then again its still better to be a vp (even this type of vp) than to be a common nairaland commentator...so... |
Politics › Re: Biafra: Kanu Leads Delegation To UN On Tuesday by selemempe: 3:12am On Sep 16, 2019 |
MetaPhysical:
 We will soon see banners like - "Kanu storms UN Hq" "Kanu enters UN amid air-tight security"
....but when Kanu comes out his report card will be in red.
Learn from his flopped exit from EU Secretariat last week and humble yourself with his entry into UN this time around. it starts from rumours....then enters pretence...b4 u knw it will turn real. Read about hw it started in eritrea and south sudan. Google yemen too. |
Politics › Re: Biafra: Kanu Leads Delegation To UN On Tuesday by selemempe: 3:06am On Sep 16, 2019 |
AmiciLord: As wealthy as Igbos are you could see the underdevelopment in Igbo land.
Hausas brings a man to represent them and the whole Hasuas will support him. Yoruba brings a man to represent them and the Yorubas will support him. Can Igbos provide one person to represent them without internal fracas amongst them?
Is this how they will manage Biafra? Ijaws are already waiting for the declaration of Biafra so they can call for their own nation the whole igbos supported zik....akintola and awolowo set the west on fire because they cannot stand each other Even obj.will support an igboman b4 he supports tinubu for president u can bet me on this U yorubas are the only tribe fighting a religious war...was it not last week oro men killed muslem.women for not hiding....yoruba is their worst enemy... |
Politics › Re: Biafra: Kanu Leads Delegation To UN On Tuesday by selemempe: 3:03am On Sep 16, 2019 |
AmiciLord: You know the truth so I won't argue with you. Biafra won't work! argue with facts not emotions...wat is the truth? |
Politics › Re: Biafra: Kanu Leads Delegation To UN On Tuesday by selemempe: 3:01am On Sep 16, 2019 |
AmiciLord: It's better ifor Kanu to collaborate with other freedom fighters like Sowore and the rest to lead a massive protest for a better Nigeria.
Even among the Igbos there is no unity. A man from Imo wont support a man from Anambra politically because they are from different states..I have seen that happen among Igbos.
If Biafra eventually come into reality there will be a fresh war among Biafrans on who to be their leader. Example is what's happening in Sudan today
Biafra is not the solution and will never be. We are over 200 million in population being ruled by less than a thousand people. Neither the police or army can match our strength if we all come together to kick against the bad system in Nigeria. any example of the bolded? |
Politics › Re: I'm Ashamed To B From Arewa by selemempe: 2:58am On Sep 16, 2019 |
My opinion on the matter is that the core north would have been Nigeria's best asset (after oil) if not for their brand of islam. They are very fearless and honest people. But they use their fearlessness in causing trouble in the name of islam An educated northerner can compete anywhere...but how many want to trully compete and be liberated?
They are industrious like dangote and co but how many of them want to create wealth and make money when wealth is haram
They gv birth to children in numbers that are simply no longer reasonable in this age and use it to laugh at the south.
I say again if the north had the brand of islam that the west has, we would be miles ahead of where we are today because they are blessed with a lot to complement the south...unfortunately they are not currently complementing the south...they just feeding on the south |
Politics › Re: BREAKING!!! Biafra : Nnamdi Kanu Officially Invited To United Nation by selemempe: 5:25pm On Sep 14, 2019 |
Gravelslam area4area godons1 i thought kanu is a miscreant who shouldnt be taken seriously? Why are u guys taking him seriously na....abeg free the miscreant jor |
Politics › Re: Returnees: Xenophobic Attacks Have Official Approval by selemempe: 5:16pm On Sep 14, 2019 |
Wiifesnatcher: when you're done doing copy and paste you should also memorize it. I welcomed anything that will revive your lost brain another loose monkey on the run and this one too dey abuse SA. abeg read what you just said can't you stay away from stupidity for 24hrs? |
Politics › Re: Why Nigeria Cannot Afford A Stand-Off With South Africa By Kakanda (Al-jazeera) by selemempe: 5:16pm On Sep 14, 2019 |
I just hope that after buhari's silly and aimless govt, that a serious president will emerge and heal the wounds of division and reposition nigeria through unity of purpose. Truth is that we are very divided now more than ever and that division will never allow us move in a single, right direction That is why S.A filled with crack heads will be pointing at us boldly without any action from us |
Politics › Re: Returnees: Xenophobic Attacks Have Official Approval by selemempe: 5:10pm On Sep 14, 2019 |
Wiifesnatcher: you expect me to acknowledged someone abusing my tribe for no reason? I wouldn't have make any negative posts if he never show his stupidity but hey I don't joke with my tribe
no be Yoruba kill Igbo for SA, so why the hate. make I allow you enjoy the repetition grace another loose monkey on the run and this one too dey abuse SA. abeg read what you just said can't you stay away from stupidity for 24hrs? |
Politics › Re: Returnees: Xenophobic Attacks Have Official Approval by selemempe: 4:44pm On Sep 14, 2019 |
Wiifesnatcher: hate Igbo for nothing you said? Igbo that love Buhari, Igbo that loves Yoruba and Hausa/Fulani should be love ba?
you get what you sow, we Yoruba can't and won't like people that hate us.
what happen in SA is not just hate, na envy that led to hate and same thing Igbo are also doing here, their hate for Yoruba is because they're top in govt, if they truly hate Fulani they won't support Atiku another loose monkey on the run and this one too dey abuse SA. abeg read what you just said can't you stay away from stupidity for 24hrs? |
Politics › Re: Kanu Just Wasting His Time And Tax Payers Money. by selemempe: 9:48pm On Sep 13, 2019 |
BuhariAdvocate: Africa continent is more powerful than European Union of today consider the country that made up the union. The withdraw of Great Britain from European Union render the organization useless and make it toothless. Note that America support Britain decision. Moreover France the most powerful country that made up the Union will never entertain Kanu madness because France don’t support Biafra in the civil war consider the interest of France in Nigeria that’s another evidence that France wouldn’t support seccionist . yorobanza moslems are a menace to decent society  |
Politics › Re: Nigerians Are Missing Bukola Saraki As Senate President by selemempe: 9:45pm On Sep 13, 2019 |
Bokula saraki is a yoro muslem...we dont miss him at all  |
Politics › Re: More Pictures Of Nnamdi Kanu Inside European Union Headquarters by selemempe: 6:35pm On Sep 13, 2019 |
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Politics › Re: More Pictures Of Nnamdi Kanu Inside European Union Headquarters by selemempe: 5:58pm On Sep 13, 2019 |
candidtalk: I laugh at Igbos considering their touted intellect. Kanu is a UK African waste man and anyone familiar with Britain will know precisely what I am talking about. This scammer and opportunist knows precisely what is possible and what is not in societies with strict rules concerning meddling with the affairs of sovereign States like Nigeria when international law has clearly set provisions and unambiguous rules about nationhood and respect for sovereignty .
Yet everything is a photo opportunity for Kanu and a chance, for his own agenda, to continue fooling those he regards as barely literate cretins and gullible mumus so he remains visible, 'earning', and 'trending' by all means even if Igbos become a laughing stock and pariah with battered reputation that will set them back another few decades as the civil war did. I honestly don't know a more self-destructive people in the entire world than Igbos.
USA , UN, UK ,France, Germany, ICC or any State, entity or organisation cannot grant Igbos Biafra and secession from the independent nation of Nigeria . Only Nigeria can even if Kanu the scammer continues deceiving Igbos others will help you gain Biafra just so he can keep swelling his back account and indulging his love for fame and world attention. How many times has Kanu and IPOB bragged Buhari, Buratai et al will face justice at the ICC as if the international Court can just come to drag the democratically elected President of the biggest black nation on earth, a sovereign one at that, to face charges before what is considered a discredited white man's court, without the integrity to charge George Bush and Tony Blair for war crimes against Iraq but will harass Africans like Charles Taylor, because of petition from a proscribed terrorist group called IPOB? Yes that would really fly before the world.
Never sat on the fence in my life and I can predict this will end in tears for Igbos like the civil war. Intelligent folks know this is inevitable and where Kanu is leading the Igbos. What is not so clear is why Igbos have this mumuism in their DNA any fraudster can emerge to scam them of their senses at any time be it FFK, Fayose, Kanu et al. I can only conclude the Igboman's trauma over the loss of the civil war and hate of others is so great it makes him vulnerable to exploitative messages of opportunist who seek to divide and conquer him for personal gains like Kanu and co. This is another exercise in futility that will further worsen the fate of Igbos in Nigeria. u are deeply bordered about this ipob and biafra thingy. Relax. The goal is to get u one nigerians so angered to the point of bringing war to igboland so that the west can once again choose sides. And wen that war starts, u will also see that there are indeed many yorubas(not yoro moslems like u) who want out of nigeria |
Politics › Re: Tinubu Will Pay For Undermining Yoruba Leaders – Bode George by selemempe: 5:47pm On Sep 13, 2019 |
GavelSlam: Because you are lying.
Someone in the states should not be apprehensive. apprehensive of terrorists. yes. Are u not a terrorist? |
Politics › Re: Osinbajo To Represent Nigeria At Mugabe’s State Funeral Saturday by selemempe: 5:46pm On Sep 13, 2019 |
Avedonn: Their presence won't be given much attention at the funeral because Nigeria is now an ordinary African country all thanks to their obnoxious internal and foreign policy.
I still remember vividly how Nigeria used to command respect in Africa and even on the world stage during Obasanjo's administration. Almost every week African leaders must visit Nigeria for one thing or the other. Even foreign presidents like George Bush, Tony Blair, Vladimir Putin etc.
Hate him or like him, Obasanjo was charismatic leader that command so mush respect among his peers back in the days. Unlike the present coward we have as a president.
The Buhari I know will never turn down such travelling opportunity without a reason behind it. And the reason is very clear. He knows if he attend the funeral his path cross with the South African president and Nigerians will realise that he has been faking anger about the xenophobic attack so to avoid the backslash, he decided to delegate the vice president to attend on his behalf. apart from yaradua, obasanjo is nigeria's greatest president. Thats why yoro muslems hate him  |
Politics › Re: Tinubu Will Pay For Undermining Yoruba Leaders – Bode George by selemempe: 5:41pm On Sep 13, 2019 |
GavelSlam: When did you begin to reside in the States? why? So u can trace me or wat |