₦airaland Forum

oyatz:
The whole of Nigeria already know how Igbos will vote, however PDP may not necessarily win the 2023 presidential election.

of course...that i can agree.

Rekhina:
By allah i hate pdp ,
These protesters are definitely pdp youths ,
We need military presence to chase and kill these pdp urchined protesters from disturbing our peace in oduduwa kingdom

Islam is peace ..peace be upon you

just say that islam is a holy religion.....holiness be upon boko haram

Unik3030:
shame on u, after u have been defeated u now resort to religion despite d fact that we all know Yoruba's are very liberal when it comes to religion unlike igbos who will not allow a reverend from other states to lead them n abia government who are so intolerant of other igbos that they sacked all non indigenes in their civil service n na people come get first Class n third class igbos n also osus. can u now see the different divisions in igbo land u have to work on instead of facing Yoruba Muslim n Christian bullshit that we only see on nairaland

https://www.nairaland.com/5096632/appoint-muslim-ministers-south-west#76953195 muric wants buhari to appoint only muslims from SW

kiss the truth

oyatz:
Most commentators on Nairaland are obviously non-politicians but love to approach Political issues from purely emotional tribalistic mindset.

1) It will have been far easier for Igbos to be president in 2023 if we are still operating a one dominant part system like in the old days of the PDP but now we have two major Political parties.

2) Igbos have formidable presence in the PDP and have invested time and resources in the party, so it's easier for them to demand for PDP's presidential ticket in 2023.
However, it may not be easy for the Igbos to get the Presidential ticket of the APC in 2023.

3) Political candidates contest elections on the platform of Political parties NOT tribes. Nigerians from all States have invested their resources and time in the APC &PDP such that if any of these parties should go down, many people will go down with it.Thus they will do everything to make sure their parties win.

u quoted me brazenly and started talking another thing. I am telling u how igbo will vote in 2023....hw does with u wrote here counter that? Pdp will present a northern candidate and igbos will support him for vp role....wats emotional there....or are we now abusing the word?

TrollKiller:
Ipob pig
They're always callous and dumb. What did that girl do to him?

u dont knw the full story...yoro moslem

Honor10:
Go and give them now, but we know who the slaves are now, but I promise u that u wil still be defeated with that 5% votes

if u nor come defeat us nko? Hope u wont deactivate ur acc?

kehinde1588:
Lol... My Yoruba people especially the Christians will be laughing at ur stupidity online.

yes while fighting the yoruba moslem menace in heebadan and osun

Yyeske:
You have nothing to say after you've been cornered, slave to the north.
I guess northern Muslim candidates are superior to Igbo Christian and Jewish candidates.
Go and rest abeg

which one are u? Igbo christian or jew vs yoro christian or muslim?

Corrosiveman:
Mind you i am an Igbo man
Ohaneze should just focus on Secession

Its better to be ruling yourselves than to be waiting for fulani to give us manddate

from ''if i was igbo'' to i am igbo man....lol yoruba moslems sef...i wonder how yoruba christians tolerate u guys

Yyeske:
Yoruba Muslim voting a northern Muslim is understandable unlike an Igbo Jew or Christian voting for a northern Muslim. Any rationale?

yes....the rational is that a yoruba moslem will never be president of nigeria

Honor10:
Why wil a Southerner campaign again, when Jonathan a Southerner is just finishing 6 years, Think now.

yes...a southerner was given pdp ticket twice...in 2011 and 2015....the pdp north deserves a ticket in 2019 and 2023...kapish?

Corrosiveman:
If i were igbo i would seek for Secession

if i was a yoruba moslems...i will move to sokoto

Yyeske:
I know I've cornered you and that is why religion has come in, last time I checked, Atiku and Tambuwal are northern Muslims

yoruba christians are great and loving people...they are igbo allies....kiss the truth

Yyeske:
Stop worrying yourself about other people, tell me why you prefer a northerner to an Igbo as president , are you telling us now that they are superior to Igbos? Forget other ethnic groups or religion, just between the north you prefer and the Igbos.

the same reason yoruba moslems prefered a northerner to a yoro muslim president

Yyeske:
Is it a crime if an Igbo is president and not a vice or are you saying that Tambuwal is better than any Igbo man or woman alive today?

no wahala...tambulwal is a great man...even yoruba moslems chose him in 2011 over a yoruba woman as speaker

Yyeske:
Slave to the north who should have started picking up an Igbo candidate he can sell to other Nigerians to vote for in 2023, you are already shouting and requesting for a northerner.
In the last election people like Muoghalu contested but your likes were atikulating, confused slave to the north like you.

yorubas didnt vote for sowore o...abeg o...na 2 aboki them too vote...we only vote one aboki...but come to think of it...why didnt yoruba moslems contest in 2015 against gej? Why did they campaign for a cattle? Was there no worthy yoruba son in 2015?

MetaPhysical:
Ooh, im sorry i did not put a disclaimer at the end of that submission.

That contribution is not meant for Onitsha bridge head touts. It stated clearly its a forecast. Do you know what a forecast is? .

A probability! Something that will likely happen but might not. It leans towards the possibility than otherwise.

eggzatly....touts should never discuss politics....dont worry...the pdp will choose fayose in 2023.

Are u an alaye or omonile?

Yyeske:
Tambuwal's slave noted, you'd never campaign for an Igbo candidate but all you're after is that a Yoruba doesn't become the president.

if tambulwal bcoms president...igbos can be vp and have more role....igbos gain nothing...absolutely nothing with a yoruba president....and we knw igbo will lose a general election...so go figures

Yyeske:
100% but sometimes when you had tried correcting someone about an impeding calamity and he refuses to listen, when it falls on him, all you can do is laugh and tell him a loud


NTOOR!

Moreover you ain't talking about bringing out a notable Igbo person that can be voted for, instead you are rooting for a northerner already and that was why I called you a slave to the north.

u are the most confused nairalander

MetaPhysical:
OP,
Very good analysis and balanced input. Your topic is provocative!

First, let me say Tinubu is a survivor. He is like Obasanjo. Both have encountered monumental obstacles in their political career that many others had died or withered trying to overcome. The two are very strategic in their approach to issues but also have blindsights. It is Obasanjo's blindsights, nore than any external threats, that stand in the way of his acknowledgement and acceptance as a national hero...great as the man is as a tactical strategist!

Whether he runs for the office himself or sponsors a candidate for the position the truth is, new events on the landscape, and at a higher political exchange, are reshaping the dynamics of APC.

The issue of insecurity is the primary challenge to APC. Regions that stood behind APC loyally are forced suddenly to regret their loyalty.

Political leaders in NW are frustrated with APC, particularly the Emirs in Zamfara, Sokoto, Katsina.....and then Kano, are all in regrets, though for different reasons but it is all directed at APC. NW have seven states and it's only two that are terror-free (Kano and Jigawa), the remaining five - Kebbi, Sokoto, Zamfara, Katsina and Kaduna, are occupied by bandits and terrorists. Zamfara and Sokoto is particularly worse. They are afraid they might end up like NE. To secure these states will require bringing in military hardware. We all know what that would do....it will attract arms race and mercenaries will flock in. To dissipate militancy and pressure in their own zone the leaders in NW did not stop nor manage and control its spread and were unperturbed that bandits in NW were shipping South to Yorubaland. Pass the problem elsewhere so we can be spared!

In NC, their leaders are also regreting their loyalty to APC and even questioning their dependency and attachment to political North. Beside Niger State, all the states in NC, six of them are victims of fulani herdsmen and bandits. Not only do they question their loyalty to APC they regret also of their participation in civil war and errors of their leaders in 60s and betrayal of Joseph Tarka. This is monumental!

In SW....the votes for APC in 2019 were the margin of victory that put Buhari over Atiku. In 2023 we should expect Yoruba will dictate not only the outcome of APC primary but also that PDP will solicit SW and present a Yoruba candidate to knock out APC. This is a forecast only! There is no reason it should not come true and Tinubu or his surrogate become next President...except that, as I mentioned before, Tinubu suffers from blindsight, and though he is a survivor.....what lays ahead are not the kind of challenges he can survive. Yoruba is under attack and Tinubu is preaching nationalism. Whaatt!!!!!!!! Lol.

Ooni and Alaafin, Obasanjo and Soyinka. These four represent respectively the Priest-King, the Emperor, the General and the Scholar of Yoruba Commonwealth. When they stand on same side and say Nigeria must be restructured....for the moment you abandon your ideology and cross to where they are and stand with them....you dont tell them rebelliously to their face that Nigeria must be held together by all means.

Tinubu cannot hold Nigeria together by himself, not by APC alone. The Northerners he is hoping to ally with are not happy with APC....and then the only people he can count on to cross bridges and pave the way for him in 2023, he raised his voice in opposition to them. How is he going to win 2023 without Yoruba....even if all the current APC states back him or his candidate?

He must first ally with the Commonwealth so we can have confidence in him and put trust in him to correct the wrongs of past and bring the nation to equity and justice for all its sub nations and ethnic groups without exception.

We dont want another Obasanjo, Tinubu is behaving like one!

lol...pdp will present yoruba in 2023? Ok. When u done sleeping u will wake

Unik3030:
we know igbos just want to play spoilers game for Yoruba's n the sw n north are ready for that already n that's y majority of the people u mentioned up there have been given a political appointment to silent them against 2023.u think we don't know your game plan? if any of those candidates u listed up there should want to come out under apc d only question people will ask them is, na only u waka come? but u people don't understand politics

ok na no wahala....just pray that north will abandon their person in pdp and vote yoruba....cos na north we dey vote.

Luckily buhari might rig for yoruba...otherwise na only yoruba go waka come

Yyeske:
... .. but was the south and middle belt united in voting in GEJ in 2011? You ought to be asking yourself what made GEJ lose the strong support he had then which he lost 4 years later.

because he didnt appoint many yorubas in high places right?

MetaPhysical:
Is there something Pastor Bakare said that we dont already know?

In fact, Northerners will contest alongside Southerners in 2023. If a Northerner wins is there anything Pastor Bakare will do to reverse it?

These Pastors are not doing works of salvation for the soul, they are preoccupied with salvation for materialism. They do so under guise of beating the politicians but they end up filling airspace with noise.

I pity those who follow religion in any faith or form. They make you fear nature and fear mankind, they reduce you to a worship slave.

Im a Muslim....a spiritual muslim, fvk religion!

A yoruba moslem

Yyeske:
Slaves to the north as usual

lol...i thought u were igbo too

Afospecialk:
Only the hopeless nd awkward people from the South would vote a Northner by 2023


If your region from the South hav what it takes to win the 2023 election in 2023 then contest for it



If yu like yu and ur entire region should go and lick Tambuwa ass in 2023 that won't change the general consensus of the PDP that no Ibo candidacy is worthy of presidential position In Nigeria as it as always been since 1999


Ibo formed an alliance with Hausa/Fulani in 2019 but it didnt work them and pointing accusing fingers at SW for associating with the Hausa/Fausa


What exactly do our SS/SE brethren want from the Yorubas ?


In all sincerity, is there any credible presentable candidacy from the SS/SE thats capable of winning the 2023 election ?

Only Jagaban can present an indomitable candidate thats capable to bring back power to the South. I repeat, only Asiwaju can produces the next president for the South weather yu like it or not

yes there are many igbos in apc who are good.

1. Ogbonnaya onu
2. Sullivan chime
3. Orji uzor kalu
4. Ngige

Choose any one of them...but if u choose yoruba, and pdp choose north, we will vote for north

kponkedenge:
Actually Nigeria was better off during the military rule than democracy.
Democracy has never been favourable to Nigeria, when Shagari was president (Democracy), the economy was so bad that he was begging for rice from the US.
Most structures erected today was from military. Democracy has given us bad leaders, thieves and crooks masquerading as democrats.
The best Lagos governor was a military man... Col. Marwa.
Third mainland bridge was erected by the military government.... If it were today in democracy, they will keep postponing and postponing with nothing to show for it like they've been doing for the fourth mainland bring and River Niger bridge.

u have a point but not abacha's rule

Cutealexio:
Use of English does not determine the level of intelligence. If you visit some countries in Europe or Asia you will see a lot of brilliant and intelligent professionals in various fields that speaks and write terribly but that does not mean they're not up to task in their specializations. If you are well travelled you will get used to ignoring grammatical blunders (ignore mine�) I don't know why Nigerians are so addicted to English Language.... It's only in Nigeria that they will doubt the competence of a doctor or an engineer because of his/her use of English. You can study these courses in other languages too... This shouldn't trend at all

those european or asian professionals didnt study in english.

U cant be this bad in the language ur text books are written and tell us u are professional....mgbo.

By Chigozie Obioma


In the wake of fresh deaths at the hands of police officers in the world’s greatest nation, we, the people of the black race, are once again the object of renewed worldwide attention.

Questions of injustice in the United States have been duly raised and protested. And, once again, the black cultural elites in America have seized various platforms to air their grievances and are mostly — and rightly — talking about racism, discrimination, racial profiling, and hate, among other issues. But one issue that has hardly been talked about is the core reason why black people have remained synonymous with the denigrating experience of racism. It is, I dare say, because of the worldwide indignity of the black race.

Racism is not limited to the Unites States. There is no nonblack nation, even among the most liberal ones, where the black man is dignified. History dealt us an unforgiving blow in the incursion of foreigners into black lands. The Arabs enslaved tribes and nations and then colonized and evangelized them. Then came the Europeans, who, persuaded the Africans were of an inferior race, divided up the continent over lunch in Berlin in 1884. They carted off a large population of its people — sometimes leaving entire villages almost empty — and brought those who remained on the continent under their rule. So complete was the transformation that no black nation retained its ancestral nationhood, national language, or national identity. And today we often hear of how China or India or some other nation is “taking over” Africa economically. There is almost no nation whose majority is of a different race that has not spat on the face of the black person, at one time or the other.

Be assured, the indignity will continue. Black elites and activists across the world have adopted a culture of verbal tyranny in which they shut down any effort to reason or criticize us or black-majority nations by labeling such attempts as “racism” or “hate speech.” Thus, one can be certain that any suggestions that our race may indeed need to do something to remedy our situation will not be aired — not by the terrified people of other races. And anyone within our race who makes such a suggestion will be deemed weak and pandering or a sellout, as U.S. President Barack Obama has been repeatedly called. Thus, no one will talk about the painful fact that most African and Caribbean nations have either failed or are about to collapse.
Thus, no one will talk about the painful fact that most African and Caribbean nations have either failed or are about to collapse.

Early African-American intellectuals and cultural elites saw that the future of their race could not be advanced by endless protests or marches of “equality” or “justice.” It could only be done through the restoration of the trampled dignity of the black man. Great men like Marcus Garvey, W. E. B. Du Bois, and Malcolm X all knew that a people is only respected when it has a nation worthy of respect. A man who lives in a shack cannot expect to be treated with respect at a palace. They knew that for us to reclaim power we must first reclaim dignity and that this comes through the construction of a solid black state with a demonstrable level of development and prosperity — and which can stand as a powerful advocate for the global black.

Today, no such state exists.

Nigeria, the most populous black nation on Earth, is on the brink of collapse. The machineries that make a nation exist, let alone succeed, have all eroded. One might argue that the nation’s creation by self-seeking white imperialists engendered its failure from the beginning, as I did in my recent novel. But this is only a part of the cause. A culture of incompetence, endemic corruption, dignified ineptitude, and, chief among all, destructive selfishness and greed has played a major role in its unravelling. The same, sadly, can be said for most other African nations. States like Zimbabwe, Cameroon, and Equatorial Guinea are farcical democracies ruled by men who exclusively cater to their interests and those of their clipped circles.

Thus, it is no surprise that in the absence of any healthy black nation — in the midst of chaos, senseless wars, corrupted religiosity, violence, and economic collapse — African and Caribbean people leave home en masse. They beg on the streets of Greece, prostitute in the red-light zones of the Netherlands, and make up 40 percent of the migrants flocking to Europe. As they turn up in these countries, helpless, unwanted, starved, or maimed, they are treated like dogs. Last month in Italy, a newly married Nigerian man was murdered simply for being unwanted. Everywhere from Ukraine to India, nearly every day, black indignity, black helplessness, stares us in the face. And all we do, we who hold the platform can do, is scream “racism!” and court the sympathy of others.

The Yoruba say, “Eniyan bi aparo ni omo araye n’fe,” meaning the world loves a person who is like a partridge. The partridge is a poor bird that, enfeebled by its creation, has little ability to hunt, gather, protect, or feed itself. The Yoruba believe that the world loves these birds because they provide the space for people to show both sincere and insincere sympathy while holding firm to their position as the superior and maintaining the place of the partridge as the weak. Which is to say that if the partridge relies on the sympathy of others, it will not elevate its position. If we, black people everywhere, cannot gather the resources within our powers to exert real changes and restore our dignity, we will continue to be seen as weak. Our protestations and grievances will be met with sympathy, which does nothing to inspire respect.
If we, black people everywhere, cannot gather the resources within our powers to exert real changes and restore our dignity, we will continue to be seen as weak

Black elites should allow for self-criticism and soul-searching and for the restoration of the Pan-Africanist movement with an eye toward building sustainable black nations. We must come to realize that to a great extent the fate of the black man in America is inextricably linked to that of his brother in Africa. Although largely unacknowledged in American political discourse, Jim Crow ended in part because of the African Independent movements. Jaja Nwachukwu, a 1960s-era Nigerian foreign minister and avowed Pan-Africanist who was close friends with American Presidents Dwight Eisenhower and Lyndon Johnson, once recalled how American officials were embarrassed when African ministers attended official events in New York’s U.N. headquarters and were treated with honor as representatives of sovereign countries. They were ashamed, for instance, when American blacks could not use the same bathroom as the Africans, just as black. The American blacks were further empowered when African nations started becoming independent, black-governed nation-states, beginning with Ghana in 1957 and followed shortly afterward by other African nations.

As long as we continue to ignore Africa’s continuous wallowing in senseless poverty and destructive failures, as long as the Congolese or the Haitian remains the poster child for poverty and lack, we will remain undignified. As long as we continue to ignore our own self-assessment and soul-searching, we will remain the undignified race. Sadig Rasheed, one of the leading African politicians of the 1980s, once told Polish journalist Ryszard Kapuscinski: “I worry about whether African societies will be able to assume a self-critical stance, and much depends on this.” I add: Our dignity — and even survival — will depend on this.

oyatz:
You can call yourself whatever you fancy but that won't make you an ethnic group.

1) All ethnic groups emerge slowly overtime from previously existing ethnic groups.

2) Ethnic groups can be a fusion of two or more ethnic groups and example abound all over the World.

E.g Liechtenstein People= French+German +Italian

Aja People in Benin republic= Yoruba +Fon

Ogori-Mangogo in Kogi State= Yoruba +Nupe+ Ebira.

Anioma= Igbo +Bini+Igala+ Ishan +Yoruba

Itshekiri= Yoruba+Bini+ Europeans.

FULANI= Berbers+Arabs + Madinka+ Malians

posted on his official fb and instagram....meanwhile he is from ika and na dem deny the igbo tag pass

Bro....anioma is 70% igbo and 30% others

https://9jaflaver.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Igbo-Community-In-Delta-Endorses-Okowa-For-Second-Term.jpg

plaindealer:
Didn't know Eleka was Fayose's candidate at all even though we heard from Fayose more than we heard from Eleka.

Now, answer my question, why did the people of Ekiti voted for and put bad and lousy Fayemi in office as their governor since according to you, he did not achieve anything.?

You are still not making any sense.

why did the ppl of ekiti vote for fayose and removed fayemi in 2014?

oyatz:
About 2hrs ago,i just discussed the same issue with a very handsome young man named Ebuka Olise(very sorry to disclose your name if you are reading this) from Oshimili LGA and he said ,even HE is not an Igboman!

The Elder Stateman, Philips Asiodu at the peak of the IPOB crisis berated Nnamdi Kanu for including Asaba in his Biafra and he said on AIT that he is not Igbo.

I you read the interview very well, you will see that the Priest-monarch also alluded to the diversity of their origin.

So there are indeed, several families from all these LGAs that reject the Igbo identity.
They can chose to call themselves whatever they like.

i can also choose to call myself wat ever i like...does it make it so? U know why some igbos started rejecting the igbo tag since 1970....no need to reopen old wounds...i wont argue further with u on this. Peace

piyoo91:
very possible. I have experience such back then in akure, around 12.05am, i was in a hotel room praying, just peep through d window, i saw this elderly woman on the street b4 i knew she transform into a bird and flew

yes me too in okokomaiko i was masturbatinh with my soap and suddenly i look out the window and saw tinubu turning into rat...i couldnt release after that