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salt 1: Well-rehearsed lines quoted everywhere! The answers are always the same:

1. Generalization: every single person in Jos, or South South is a Christian. Even when the people are idle worshippers following their people's tradition, they are still lumped as Christians
2. Mary wore veil. You disrespect her son and the religion He brought but quote her when using her age of marriage or dressing to buttress your point
3. Abraham, Solomon etc were polygamous over 2000 years' ago but they're still used to justify institutionalized polygamy in the 21st century
4.History: @thaba, Muslim women had more rights than British women donkey years ago, so Islam is fair to women today.
Change is the only constant but Muslims refuse to change. But for the compulsion and dogma that exists, I know many women who would gladly jettison this angry faith. I hear you talk of convinced Muslims and Muslims by default.

I read parts of the biography of "I am Nujood, ten years' old and divorced" and my heart bled.
Islam insists on consent for the girl before marriage. What consent can a 9year-old Yemeni girl have when she's to be married off to a 35year old man?
We should mind our business with the high female illiteracy level in the North, the high poverty rate (which is wearing a woman's face), with child marriage and its associated risks of VVF?

LightningLord: Che, islam. Make criticism, albeit facetious, hide it, then leave jokes like this post untouched and push this thread to the front page?

You bring this thread out to the open, why? I suppose you're now going to ban this account/extend the other ban and censor my post again as well? If you aren't willing to listen to other opinions, wtf do you advertise your threads? Just so you could tell us 'what is' while we meekly bleat along? Do we look like deluded sheeple?

So again, this pure dross. Unadulterated drivel. The dizzying height of folly. Oh yes, why?

You think you have the right to 'allow' or deny them basic freedoms simply because in your warped, silly mind they're 'fragile or flexible that have to be pamper and treat with care'? Really? Says who?

This sounds like an opinion to me, one that reeks of a flavor of bigotry, and you don't deny people basic rights (especially rights which you yourself full enjoy) because of opinions. If you insist on doing so (and you do whenever given the chance) then I have to ask, wth do you, or even your tyrant overlord allah, think you are?

So, this OPINION has now led you to justify MANDATING other adults indulge you. This is particularly foolish. Dress, walk, speak, make friends only we approve of. You even go as far reducing the value of their testimonies in court; 1 man's testimony is equal to that of 2 women. Etc etc. You sure you don't tell them how to give birth as well? What about menstruate? Perhaps even how to breathe?

It sounds to me you think women are frivolous and foolish, so much so they really don't know what's best for themselves. It's condescending, sexist nonsense that assumes males inherently have rights over females. It assumes that by default males are superior to females.


Now, if a woman well exposed and aware of her rights chooses to remain sheeple and subscribe to your philosophy, good for her. That's her prerogative, I fully support her right to do so. For any other case, these mandates are astronomically far from acceptable, they're in other galaxies. To compound on this, consider islamic countries/societies, consider their stance on apostacy, then do the math. If a woman in one of these societies simply changes her mind about this nonsense....

Unless you don't mean the english definition of the word 'mistreat', the above very clearly is mistreatment. It's daylight robbery.

LightningLord: Che, islam. Make criticism, albeit facetious, hide it, then leave jokes like this post untouched and push this thread to the front page?

You bring this thread out to the open, why? I suppose you're now going to ban this account/extend the other ban and censor my post again as well? If you aren't willing to listen to other opinions, wtf do you advertise your threads? Just so you could tell us 'what is' while we meekly bleat along? Do we look like deluded sheeple?

So again, this pure dross. Unadulterated drivel. The dizzying height of folly. Oh yes, why?

You think you have the right to 'allow' or deny them basic freedoms simply because in your warped, silly mind they're 'fragile or flexible that have to be pamper and treat with care'? Really? Says who?

This sounds like an opinion to me, one that reeks of a flavor of bigotry, and you don't deny people basic rights (especially rights which you yourself full enjoy) because of opinions. If you insist on doing so (and you do whenever given the chance) then I have to ask, wth do you, or even your tyrant overlord allah, think you are?

So, this OPINION has now led you to justify MANDATING other adults indulge you. This is particularly foolish. Dress, walk, speak, make friends only we approve of. You even go as far reducing the value of their testimonies in court; 1 man's testimony is equal to that of 2 women. Etc etc. You sure you don't tell them how to give birth as well? What about menstruate? Perhaps even how to breathe?

It sounds to me you think women are frivolous and foolish, so much so they really don't know what's best for themselves. It's condescending, sexist nonsense that assumes males inherently have rights over females. It assumes that by default males are superior to females.


Now, if a woman well exposed and aware of her rights chooses to remain sheeple and subscribe to your philosophy, good for her. That's her prerogative, I fully support her right to do so. For any other case, these mandates are astronomically far from acceptable, they're in other galaxies. To compound on this, consider islamic countries/societies, consider their stance on apostacy, then do the math. If a woman in one of these societies simply changes her mind about this nonsense....

Unless you don't mean the english definition of the word 'mistreat', the above very clearly is mistreatment. It's daylight robbery.

oluagness: I think veil was introduced to preserved Muhammad wifes from men. It is not meant for everybody. trust islam, everything is overdo... killing etc
“Believers, do not enter the Prophet’s house…unless asked. And if you are invited…do not linger. And when you ask something from the Prophet’s wives, do so from behind a hijab. This will assure the purity of your hearts as well as theirs” (33:53).

vedaxcool: Women and men are equal in the sight of God, in Islam women and men get the same reward from God if they commit are act of goodness, they are rewarded equally, a prophetic saying goes, if you train a male u have only trained one person but if you train a female you have trained a nation! Underscoring the importance of women in nation building! Furthermore the most important person in a man world and who deserves the highest respect from any man living is his mother, a morther must be given three times the respect a father is due! The prophet pbuh said the best amongst you is he who is best to his wife, . . ., in Islam it is forbidden to attack women, children and the old during a state of war, . . . , there are so many rights that came with islam;

1. A woman have right to education

2. A woman have right to earn a living

3. A woman have rights to inherit from her father, husband,brothers etc a right which english women only started enjoying from the 1800s

4. Rights to marry a man of her choosing, the prophet said any marriage in which the woman's consent was not taken is automatically nullified!

Etc

A woman don't have the following rights;

1. Right to flirt around nope God forbid

2. Rights to that generally go against laws God made for mankind! Etc

See how women are enjoying the rights the west has bestowed upon them!

www.nairaland.com/1127342/women-west-happy-pt-1

m.aljazeera.com/se/2011916112412992221

Happy reading!

Maxymilliano: The Governor is yet to tell Nigerians what was the man offence that he sent a battalion of police after him.

PHIPEX: About a month ago the world focused on Nigeria because of Achebe, now we shall once again be the focus of the world because someone memorised so much of Quaran and lost his senses. Who knows, he may be a Niralander

50calibre: How about isolating the whole northern region, allow women and children to pass through and then massacre every man, that utilitarianism (any action is justified provided it for the greater good of the greater population)

PapaBrowne: Let me put things in better perspective.

Why are there countless mosques in United states,UK and other Chhristian nations worldwide, but In Saudi Arabia churches are not allowed. In Qatar Churches are not allowed.
Why do muslims want the right to wear the hijab everywhere they go and wouldnt allow non muslims dress the way they want in their own countries?

ngozievergreen: what do u know abt Okupe?

elkol: Bonkers! So if I go to Saudi Arabia now, they might deport me too...

ayenny02: Which revelation have you forgotten tha jesus said Matthew 15:23-24
23 But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.

24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

ARE U D LOST SHEEP OF ISREAL OR NIGERIA, they will continue using ur money to buy more jet.

oluagness: Good job, more than 95% is extracted from bible. Meanwhile, no 8 and no 85 contradict each other. Pls dont abuse me.

Michaeljones36: Every terrorist in the world is a muslim. How do you explain this?

Also, Hitler was an atheist.

emmydeep: was it your father that brought peace in the niger delta ? Your are a bigot.
APC WILL STOP THE BOKO HARAM IN ONE MONTH; OK, BUT WAIT O, IS BOKO HARAM DIFFERENT FROM APC? They are one people.

frosbel: The Pope can have a dialogue on behalf of the catholic church but he certainly does not speak for the Head of the Church, Christ Jesus the King of Kings and Lord of Lords who said :

"I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved. They will come in and go out, and find pasture." - John 10:9

No other way will suffice , but his enemies represent the false way as Jesus mentioned :

"The hired hand is not the shepherd and does not own the sheep. So when he sees the wolf coming, he abandons the sheep and runs away. Then the wolf attacks the flock and scatters it." - John 10:12

frosbel: Dialogue for the purpose of what ?

Is the purpose to show them the way , the truth and the life which is JESUS ? or is it to make peace with them and leave them with a false sense of security , that we will all make it into God' eternal kingdom irrespective of what we do with Jesus , and his great work of salvation , especially how we conduct ourselves to this regard.

Knowing what Pope John Paul II did to embrace all false religion, it seems to be the way with this so called mother church , accepting all and sundry , without any regard to the way this affects the integrity of the gospel.

I will keep saying it forever, the catholic church does not represent Jesus the Christ.


"Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." - John 14:6

"Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved." - Acts 4;12

mikeapollo: I dont owe you any explanation.

I only made an observation as regards civil unrests/riots/wars that involve we Yoruba people.
I have noticed that all the tribal wars that Yoruba people had fought in history were wars between one Yoruba ethnic group against another Yoruba ethnic group, but NEVER against another different tribe.

In essence, I was just trying to underscore how the Yoruba accomodate the excess of their strangers, visitors and other tribes, but would not mind to go to war with a fellow Yoruba ethnic group that does similar thing to us......so that attitude can be seen as either positive or negative

greateros: may the gods take away from me anything that will make me turn out to be like Reuben. . .

dady12: Where are those sycophants that are defending pdp and the OGA AT THE TOP?it is very clear that you should all hide you self in shame.pdp have nothg to offer nigeria than assassinating and granting pardon to criminals,they assassinate ogbe onokpete in delta stae using a police corporal,till today the matter was swept under the carpet . look at america today,they ve two party system ,why is it that your OGA AT TOP going after the unity of an opposition party which are yet to be form?nigeria is longer recongnise in the western world but know for curruption and lawlessness.this is the year of the lord and whosoever planning on backwardness of this great nation,more disasters will be his portion ,he can never escape the wraft of the lord,enough is enough

eldoradoxx: What do you know about politics? I ve always said in this forum that politics should be left for PDP. Our great party is good at it, we are master strategists in political chess board, APC can only make noise, PDP doesn't make noise at all. It acts and when it moves the opposition shudders. Ordinary name is something Buhari and Tinubu cannot secure conveniently and people are talking of winning 2015. My oga on top no go gree oh lol. Next line after this is to deploy PDP members to join APC's camp and distabilise them internally with huge money. Its all politcs, if u are a priest or imam, better leave politics for people who can do the battle. Stop complaining of the morality of PDP's actions